A Recession is Imminent.
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a large firm on Wall Street just
released a document titled A recession
is imminent I'm going to go through the
highlights the most important parts of
that 18-page report with you in this
video but first we're going to take a
look into what Donald Trump actually
said because right now almost every
mainstream News company whatever is
running headlines saying Donald Trump
refuses to rule out potential recession
risk what I'd like to do is actually
listen to what Donald Trump says and
then comment on potentially what he
means and then let's get into the
recession risk document here's the
actual interview from Fox where the
interview actually occurred so we don't
have any overlay of another company
throwing in their Cuts I want you to
know this first portion over here you
can watch as well and at the beginning
about 1 minute in he does talk about how
a tax bill is coming an incentive bill
is coming uh and that we want to see
lower taxes in America and that could be
a Tailwind to the economy The Wall
Street Journal reviewed this video and
they didn't mention anything about those
potential tax benefits or anything about
the good they only referred to this last
two and a halfish minute clip so it's
worth mentioning that it is also worth
balancing that hey it does take a while
to get tax plans through Congress
because as we all know Congress is
frustratingly
slow let's get into what Trump just said
what you said and I want to ask you
about Ukraine and the blow up the other
day with with zalinski let me stay on
the economy for a moment because there
are rising worries about a Slowdown
you've got the Atlanta Federal Reserve
saying we're going to have a contraction
in the first quarter look I know that
you inhered a mess and you said that the
other only been here are you expecting a
recession this year um I hate to predict
things like that there is a period of
transition because what we're doing is
very big we're bringing wealth back to
America that's a big thing and there are
always periods of it takes a little time
it takes a little time yeah quick
interjection this is where a lot of
folks say all right you don't bring
wealth back to America by taking the
stock market out of uncertainty but
that's not what Donald Trump is
specifically referring to in fact Donald
Trump and letnik they argue they're
they're just blind to the stock market
that they don't watch it that this isn't
part of their their goal instead part of
their goal is rather to try to force
companies to come to America uh in
manufacturing America but as you'll see
in the the BCA research piece in just a
moment this becomes really complicated
because when you issue tariffs and then
in this video you're going to see Donald
Trump threaten even more tariffs you
know people are looking for Trump to
walk back tariffs he's threatening more
tariffs in this video uh BCA research
says look trade isn't black and white
it's not like hey okay okay you want to
buy this little $5 calculator from
Canada uh tariff you know 20% uh it's
even if we make the chip in America we
often send our chips that are made in
America to Canada for testing and then
back to America and then of course
people like all right well they test in
America that's fine but that's just one
tiny example of an intermediate trade in
other words an item that crosses the
Border potentially multiple times but
before it becomes a final product uh and
to rebuild Supply chains that have been
built over the last decades under NAFTA
and
usmca is very difficult it doesn't
happen overnight so I know Donald Trump
talks about bringing wealth back to
America because this his protectionist
view is we want to bring more jobs to
America the downside though with that is
that we have built decades worth of
infrastructure on free trade not on tax
trade and so that is what creates
problems in the near term and Donald
Trump is acknowledging this he is he is
like I'm happy he's not pulling the
lutnick and going yeah we're never going
to have a recession again you know
everybody's got a stock app on their
phone stock market only goes up I know
that's a thesis that people have out
there but it's also not realistic
related to the business cycle I'd love
to say hey yeah no there's no chance of
recession but I actually think that
Donald Trump takes a reasonable answer
here because yeah recession risk is real
and you'll see in the BCA research piece
in just a moment it's intense but I
don't I think it should be great for us
I mean I think it should be great it's
going to be great ultimately for the
farmer you know don't forget I made the
deal with China on a farmers where they
had to buy $50 billion worth of product
50 billion from 15 to 50 did they follow
up and do it they did it when I was
president what happened is when Biden
was President they didn't buy any longer
yeah because there was nobody to call
them I used to call President she I said
you got to do me a favor you got to you
know live up to that agreement and he
was great he did before you came into
the Oval Office the first time you were
a very successful businessman very
successful that's all related to the
2018 tariff War by the way that was a
great by the dip opportunity uh so I
just want to be transparent about that I
covered the 2018 trade Wars and what was
going on with the Federal Reserve at the
time but remember 2018 was a period of
time where the Federal Reserve was
actually also raising interest rates we
were moving up to oh my gosh 2 and 1 12%
in quote quote unquote normalizing
interest rates you got tariff
uncertainty uh and then at the end of
the year when there was a shock because
the market was just pissed and selling
off because rates were moving up uh we
actually had a crisis in the bond market
for a moment uh Jerome pal said we're
done we're done raising rates and you
sort of got the Powell put as we like to
say where Powell kind of saves the day
uh and and you had recovery again in
2019 so that 2018 experience was a great
by the dip opportunity that said we also
weren't
building uh the levels of uh recession
risks that we're seeing now we didn't
really see recession risks until Co and
obviously that was uh a quite a unique
shock let's continue real estate
executive and a lot of people said oh
this is the business president this is
it he's watching the stock market he
knows all about you know he doesn't want
the market to go she's purposefully
saying that line he's watching the stock
market when reporters do that it is a
cue to the interviewee to respond to
specifically that but they're doing
they're smart Fox is smart they want
Trump to keep coming back because we
know that fox and and Trump have
friendly relations so they're trying to
softly like please say something about
the stock market go down and now we've
got tariffs and the market has been
going down um well not much I mean in
offer it's not you you said look we're
going to have a disruption but we're
okay with that is that what you me I
guess it depends which stock you're
referring to Tesla like 50% the stock
market going down was the disruption
what other disruption were you alluding
to look what I have to do is build a
strong country you can't really watch
the stock market if you look at China
they have a 100e perspective we have a
quarter we go by quarters that's true
and you can't go by that you have to do
what's right what we're doing is we're
building a t this by the way is a a
great argument that people like Steve
Jobs also took which was look we're even
Warren Buffett takes this mentality
we're not not a quarter to quarter based
company or country right we have
long-term goals that's what Donald Trump
is trying to convey here the downside of
that is it does mean Donald Trump isn't
going to be affected by this sort of
Atlanta fed you Atlanta fed's super
sensitive okay like yes it's bad we
covered all the details of it but we
know it's very very volatile you get two
good reports like good reports pops
right back up I'm not saying I I can
predict what's going to happen with that
Atlanta fed reader but it's a very
sensitive ometer that's said uh yeah I
mean this this is a fair argument
tremendous foundation for the future
tremendous Foundation everything's been
taken away we don't make ships anymore
we don't you know you just saw one of
the biggest ship builders in the world
one of the biggest shipping people in
the whole world in the Oval Office with
you in the Oval Office he's announcing a
20 billion investment in the United
States which he would have never done
except for this but look at this Honda
Toyota they're all coming in you you
take a look at what's happened the
chipmaker the greatest chip Mr wayy the
biggest in the world by far is going to
spend $200 billion on making a massive
plant to make chips so that's your
message build it here build it here
there's no tariff yeah the the the
public companies want to make sure that
we have Clarity after April 2nd when
those reciprocal tariffs go in is that
it are you going to change anything
after that will we have Clarity you'll
have a lot but we may go up with some DS
it depends we may go a lot but we may go
up with some tariffs it depends we may
go up I don't think we'll go down but we
may go up see I like this idea of uh you
know building in America if if we could
do it better uh a lot of manufacturing
has gotten really good in other parts of
the world and that is why it is is
difficult for for people to say okay
yeah we'll do it in America but they
show up in the White House they say yeah
I'll I'll do a deal and they promise
this you know number you know and then
of course if there's a recession they
won't actually do that number but they
promise a number to get on Trump's good
side Trump can make the pr announcement
they didn't actually spend a dime yet
and then they get favors to you know try
to make that make Financial sense for
them fine but it also has to make sense
for us to manufacture certain things in
America we just can't do it all here
because things would just become
substantially more expensive the bigger
problem here is Donald Trump's comment
that oh they're not going to go down
they might go up
this is him negotiating with the other
countries but the stock market don't
want to hear that right now and but you
you're have there plenty of clarity they
they just use it that's like almost a
sound bite they always say that we want
Clarity
look our country has been ripped off for
many decades for many many decades and
we're not going to be ripped off anymore
on the tariffs what are the automakers
going to do for a month I mean you say
you wanted to help American Auto I did
you spoke with the a transition period
okay and it's a transition into April
and after that I'm not doing this I mean
I told them I said look I'm going to do
it this one time but after that I'm not
doing it they called me and they wanted
help during this little transition
period And I gave it to
them boom okay
so not helpful for the stock market
today but that's okay you know Donald
Trump himself said the goal right now
isn't to care about the stock market
okay well I mean just obviously keep
that in mind as as an investor but here
are the bigger problems let's look at
BCA research all right I'm just going to
give you the tldr on this okay first
recessions often begin when an economy
becomes vulnerable to a downturn and
then a shock all right something I've
talked about on this channel for a very
long time is the difference between the
10year and the two-year treasury yield
those don't like the the spread between
those two numbers doesn't Skyrocket
until you have a
shock when the economy starts slowing
down that's when you are vulnerable to a
shock and that's when things move very
very rapidly so I want to mention this
recessions don't come slowly they hit
hard and fast the market gets hit before
you even realize it's
come and by the time the worst is in
everybody's screaming recession the
Market's bottomed and you're already
recovering like the stock market tends
to recover three months before the end
of a recession
so there's an interesting timing thing
here where you you are going to have
some really incredible buy the dip
opportunities I want to I'll make a
video on
redin being acquired by rocket mortgage
but I think it is the wedge deal of the
century this is such a brilliant
acquisition H like this is the stuff I
want to do with house hack like that is
so smart buying redin uh because it's
like the worst time to run a a real
estate broker style Lending SL website
worst possible time and we'll talk about
that in a different video anyway us is
at the greater risk of recession than it
was in early 2022 why because people had
excess household savings then they don't
today job openings were plentiful they
are not today and you could refinance
low you can get cheap debt can you today
no okay those three things they say has
basically worn the insulation low on
this economy consumer confidence is nose
diving job layoffs are up new home
inventories are elevated all right in
other words in overbuilt areas there are
a lot of homes so in overbuilt areas you
might see prices come down all right
well we've known this was likely for 2
or 3 years already confidence goes up
and down it's a very volatile needle job
layoffs going up that's a problem now
part of this is due to Doge but they
mentioned this fancy thing called the be
Beaver curve I'm not going to explain
exactly all the details of this right
now but basically it is it is at a
Tipping Point the only thing holding the
beaver Ridge curve up right now which is
anything that changes on the layoff side
at this point pushes up the unemployment
rate almost one for one we're at the
Tipping Point of that curve pushing
unemployment straight
up the only thing that's been
missing the only thing been layoffs 27
weeks unemployed are elevated uh you've
got a lack of job openings you've got
Inc uh you know lowering of Labor quits
which is a sign of Market uncertainty
when people are confident about getting
a job uh they don't quit uh or sorry
they're more likely to quit when they're
nervous about getting a job they don't
quit because they don't want to lose
their money right they'll hunker down
and wait for a bit this will be a
terrible time to quit uh you know unless
you had some other crazy source of
income because you're going into a crap
job market right this is why I said to
the to people taking those layoffs at
Doge I'm like if you're going to do it
find a job ASAP because you don't want
to be the last person in line trying to
get a job somewhere else anyway so so
this is bad right okay uh now we don't
currently yet have a recession uh at
least according to the NBR signals most
people I see you in the comments I see
the pain okay I see it um they're like
where we've been in a recession we're
already in a recession these are at
least the metrics for this uh you know
whatever these are like charts who who
cares okay but basically could we turn
into recession yeah absolutely are we
there right now according to those
numbers and those charts no fine who
cares it's it's paper it's Wall Street
what about this oh this tariff thing is
going to be a little disruption okay
this is where they talk about the
intermediate Goods section I already
explained this uh you know about 10
minutes ago in this video but they talk
about the supply side impact of higher
tariffs could turn out to be quite large
this is where they say more than half of
trade in North America is based on
intermediate goods and here's where they
talk about uh you know testing
semiconductors uh in China or the
relations that we have with Mexico and
the halfhazard way that we're sort of
applying tariffs and like are we going
to get fewer tariffs are we going to get
more tariffs that creates a lot of
uncertainty for a very delicate uh
economy and in an uncertain time they
also talk about how because of tariffs
inflation is likely to overshoot
slightly in the near term especially
with inflation expectations going up
putting the FED in a place where the
fed's going to go yeah no we're not
doing anything everything's fine which
is exactly the opposite of what the FED
should be doing because they're going to
stall us into a depression a
deflationary spiral with 20%
unemployment and robot taking over the
world making it even damn harder for you
to get your job after you lose
your we don't have to get chill Kev
chill the higher tariffs will
temporarily push up inflation which
keeps the FED on hold okay what else
cautionary
savings they argue that $1 of a decline
in income is likely to decrease
aggregate demand by more than $1 this is
basically a way of saying when
uncertainty goes up and people are
nervous what happens in the economy is
they see sales down a little bit one
month and then they're like okay well so
let's make an example here let's say
you're selling lemons uh you know
lemonade and your your net profit every
single month is $2,000 and then the next
month your net profit is $1,500 so
you're down 500 bucks you might go out
and you know spend in restaurants or
discretionary spend or whatever the
equivalent of $1,000 less even though
you only took in 500 less you're like oh
oh crap and that oh crap when the
economy does that really really easy to
slip you into a recession on top of that
Financial conditions have not tightened
yet which is actually bad now okay
Financial conditions is a tough one I'm
going to explain that in just a moment
but then they talk about kir your
enthusiasm like European stocks are only
up because of the pull forward of
tariffs uh and you know we had a lot of
pull forward of front running in the
stock market because of trump coming in
blah blah blah blah blah okay they
recommend selling stocks fine this is
BCA
research Financial conditions okay this
is this one's a little more complicated
think of financial conditions as a
banker's willingness to lend to you all
right so let's put this as simply as
possible you run that Lemonade Stand
today you go to the bank you're like I
want $100,000 loan bank's like no
problem okay now you go into a period of
economic tightening contraction concern
uncertainty tariffs blah blah blah blah
hey I want a loan for $100,000 hell no
we ain't doing loans right now you got
to be kidding me we're a bank you think
we do loans it's like yeah that's
literally what Bankers do nah no no no
no no no no come back to us in a few
years or you know like sure $5,000 loan
right so it could be the availability of
loans but it could also be the size of
lending that gets crushed so that way
even if interest rates come down your
availability to get credit can collapse
now this is actually a personal warning
to folks and what I recommend people do
and this is not personalized Financial
advice but generally if you own a home
right now and home values are high in in
your area get a home equity line of
credit now yes rates are high but you're
not going to spend the money don't spend
the money yet just open the damn line of
credit it cost you like a hundred bucks
a year it's not a big deal but if you
open a line of credit for $100,000 let's
say in the equity on your home and
you're not spending any of that money
you have the capacity of writing a check
okay if home values come down you will
still have that $100,000
line yes they can freeze lines these are
rare things that could happen people
then often take that money and just put
into a savings account right they pay
the interest for a little period of time
uh and then they collect it in
savings but uh establishing it is very
interesting because if you do go into a
crisis you have something to pull from
whereas if you are in a crisis it's very
difficult to establish that credit
because Financial conditions type all
right there you have it that was a long
one uh but honestly I think this was
chalk full of information and this
should give you some insight into why
the stock market's like man this sucks
it does suck U but anyway I'll bring you
more updates as they come out so I'm
back in the studio I'm super happy to be
back I miss you all we'll see you all
soon bye good luck why not advertise
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feel like nobody else knows about this
we'll we'll try a little advertising and
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so much people love you people look up
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