Why is Tesla Stock Falling
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hey everyone me Kevin here today we've
got to talk about Tesla why is the stock
falling what's going on with Elon Musk
what's going on with the valuation of
this company what's going to happen with
full self-driving and frankly the
ability for us to compete with the other
Robo taxis of the world or will Tesla be
the only one let's talk about all of
that and just do a very pointed video
here on Tesla so first things first why
is the stock falling well it could be
because Robin and Kimble musk are
dumping the
stock NOW Robin's on the board Kim musk
elon's
brother they're insiders we have seen in
the past that Kimble musk is pretty
professional at timing uh local tops in
Tesla stock and taking advantage of them
so it's not a great signal however it is
noise if you are a long-term investor as
a long-term investor you should know
that Tesla can be more volatile than
Bitcoin certainly more recently uh and
over its history it has not been exempt
from large swings and valuations
potentially as much as 70% declines and
then of course you get these these
doubles to two and a half xers and you
get these declines again this is normal
this is just what happens with a stock
that is is growing now typically Tesla
should have already matured past this
phase but but you've got some issues
because one of the problems uh that we
face not just from Insider selling is uh
expectation versus reality one of the
expectations is that uh we are going to
get new models of vehicles in 2025 and H
I have been of the mindset that there
will not be a new model in 2025 there
will just be different variants of
existing models and so far I don't want
to be right on this because I really
want a new model of Tesla ideally a
bigger
one uh but uh unfortunately I think
we're going to see the pitch of the
refreshed model y now the launch Series
Tesla as the next model of vehicle or
the seven seat model y being promoted in
Europe to get around those vat taxes
that's that's
great but maybe even a new variant of
the model 3 but these aren't new more
affordable models if anything some of
these models are actually more expensive
now you're getting more with the refresh
series but you're also paying more so I
suppose you can make an argument that
it's more affordable if you want all of
the add-ons like full self driving and
otherwise uh but my question is and and
I think investors will begin to question
this as
well are we actually going to get a new
model in 2025 uh mostly because a more
affordable model is something that's
seen as potentially Reviving sales
growth at Tesla that is rather than
having to wait for the Cyber cab we
could have maybe a 2-year period where
we could actually get back to that 30%
growth now notice two earnings reports
ago Elon Musk told us hey um we should
be growing at 30% in 2025 in the last
earnings report they downgraded that to
we should return to growth in 20 25
H now I'm simply stating facts here that
Elon Musk has also made it clear that a
$25,000 nonfully self-driving car non
full self-driving car non fully self
anyway non robotaxi $225,000 vehicle
would not make
sense well that's probably on one hand
because Elon Musk has the mentality that
we will not uh keep making Legacy Autos
we will keep going Make It or Break It
with full self-driving or and
potentially their Break Even cost on
manufacturing a car is $35,000 so of
course they're not going to make a
$25,000 car when they're breaking even
at$ 35,000 now In fairness that's the
break even for the average of their
vehicles right now so yes if you had a
lower cost vehicle maybe they could get
the break even down to 29 or $30,000 for
that model but they they wouldn't have a
profit at that point and it just doesn't
make sense if they break even 35 now
you'd have to cut a lot I mean divide
that for a moment if your break even on
a car right now is 35 and your break
even on a 20 you know on a lower let's
say your break even was 25 and you sold
it for zero as Elon had alluded to in
the past you'd still have to figure out
how to get the cost down
29% turn it into a two door it doesn't
sell as well in the United States
because people want the flexibility two
doors just usually don't don't do that
well unless it's a roadster you can go
lower battery but people have enough
range anxiety as is I've been a big fan
of lower battery but you can just put
lower battery models in in uh in model 3
and Y versions but frankly I think one
of the reasons they're not doing that
because I've been pounding the table on
this for years that golly sell a you
know sell a a $25,000 car with with 100
miles of range and let that be
somebody's secondary car but I I
actually have come to the realization
that there are two reasons they don't do
that one they want the margins on the
batteries you know they they'll sell you
a ,000 battery for6 or $7,000 basically
that's where the margins are the margins
are in the batteries and as lithium
prices keep plummeting and the cost of
batteries in China keeps plummeting it's
more desirable to pick up your margin on
selling you batteries though even
battery margins are getting whacked you
know you look at uh specifically the
energy sector which is mostly batteries
for Tesla yes some solar as well and
inverters but it's mostly batteries Mega
packs and and home battery
packs their Marin margins on energy have
actually interestingly declined you know
you've gone from an average of around
30% margin uh you know gross margin down
to about 24.6% gross margin so you're
seeing weakness there as well which is
weird but anyway going back to the
$25,000 vehicle and sort of this more
affordable model the more we keep seeing
these variants I think the more the
stock market might be waking up to
say all right doesn't look like we're
going to get a new more affordable
vehicle this year other than you know
variants of EX
models now I could be surprised you know
I don't think it's going to happen but
maybe they'll be uh you know come to our
April 15th event where we announce a new
product great that would be wonderful
and and it would be a a big upside for
the stock like I you'd want to buy Co
YOLO calls that day you know because
people go oh my gosh this this new model
whether it does or doesn't doesn't
matter it's just what people's
expectations are oh my gosh this new
model is going to sell uh and it's going
to bring you know so much it's it's
going to bring Tesla back to growth uh
we're going to grow at 30 40% compounded
again we don't have that right now with
the existing lineup now the good news is
the existing lineup isn't like Panic
selling in terms of inventory uh you are
getting you know some more promotions in
China like Insurance buy downs and
promotions uh again you're getting
Insider selling which is adding weight
the downside weight to the stock uh and
I'm not seeing any panic in used vehicle
inventory uh or sorry even new used uh
sorry new jeez let me give give my words
straight you're not seeing panic in
inventory usually when you look at new
vehicles on the inventory page within
200 miles of where you are and you're
seeing large discounts that's when
they're really trying to get a clearing
event done you you're having a hard time
actually finding some of those right now
uh which which is a good sign uh but it
could also mean that we're just
producing a similar amount to what we're
selling and it doesn't necessarily mean
we're growing right so there are some
issues here uh but again no panck
inventory right now which suggests that
at least in the near term there doesn't
appear to be uh a a an over production
doesn't necessarily mean sales numbers
are going to be great I mean we see
what's going on with Europe
registrations in January in Germany and
France and Spain and the United Kingdom
all these countries are down 30 to 50%
for Teslas now it's a drop in the bucket
for Tesla Global sales because you know
most of their vehicles are sold in the
United States followed by China uh
although byd did just take over Tesla on
pure electric vehicles but
whatever uh there Tesla sells most of
their cars outside of Europe so maybe
that matters less although he's a little
bit of a bummer because there is a
gigafactory called Giga Berlin that is
ideally trying to sell
vehicles in the European market because
you pay less to transport you know ship
them somewhere but whatever so I I I
don't
see uh panic in inventory but I do see
some disappointment in potentially okay
yeah maybe the new model you know new
models are just not going to be a brand
new model I I think disappointment there
is putting weight on the stock down
Insider selling pushing weight on the
stock down now there's more though but
before we get to the more part I I want
to mention that there is a risk also
keep this in mind there is a
risk that uh people who look at a car
like the seven seat model
y say why would I buy the model X as a
7even seat if I can get the model y as a
7even seat and you cannibalize a little
bit of those higher margin sales from
the
X's now I want to be clear this is just
I guess I'm allowed to say this because
it's not a financial thing this isn't
personalized Financial advice this is
just like advice as a friend do not buy
a seven seat
Tesla please don't do it I bought a s
seat model X and I regret it I wish I
bought the six seat with the captain's
chairs so nice six
functional seven
not do also know though your trunk space
when you get that third row goes to like
nothing to the to the point where in
2018 we went to a Dodgers game and we
used the seven seat model X the poor
people in the back were sitting in there
like with with their knees up like this
uh and well one person was because
they're a little taller and the other
person had their knees sort of at an
angle up but they also had to have this
uh beer cooler
uh on their lap because we couldn't fit
it on the in the trunk anymore because
the trunk space you know was was so
narrow I mean so you also can't fit a
stroller right so it it's not these
aren't really like functional large
family cars I wish they would introduce
a new model and and I'm a big fan of
Teslas I still maintain the model Y is
the best bang for your buck it's it's a
great vehicle the three is great as well
I don't think the difference between the
S and the three is really worth it but
anyway you know the the extra horsepower
that's really where a lot of the margin
comes from for Tesla I mean good for
Tesla if you want to support the stock
but I don't know how much one car buy is
going to make a difference relative to
your
pocketbook that's said we need to talk
about open Ai and could this open AI
Panic or or situation between you know
Elon Musk Sam Alman off or is this a
game of 4D chess or is this actually
potentially something worse we've got to
talk about that and we're going to uh
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an offer to buy the uh nonprofit parent
company that owns the assets for open AI
quick primer on this you have entity a
nonprofit entity B
for-profit entity a has the assets
entity B is the for-profit corporation
that Sam Alman wants to buy open AI
with Sam Alman wants to buy the
nonprofit out and the assets at the
nonprofit for as little as possible that
way he could take it over at the
for-profit side take a 7% stake and be a
21
billionaire all
right Elon Musk hates Sam Alman they're
in lawsuits together they had a breakup
in 2018 they started open AI together
but had a breakup um and uh Elon Musk is
trying to make it harder for Sam Alman
to buy the assets from that nonprofit by
raising the bid on that nonprofit now
the director of the board of the
nonprofit just came out and said you
know I haven't I haven't gotten an offer
I haven't seen anything other than what
I've seen in the media about Elon Musk
trying to make an offer to buy us
whatever there's going to be all this
bull crap you know I just tired of all
like the drama and all this kind of
stuff I just want to give it to you
straight all right there are three
obviously you know Sam Alman rejected
the offer but I'm going to give you why
this is happening uh Elon Musk offered
97.4 billion Sam Alman responded with
9.7 billion Elon mus called him a
swindler whatever this is all just like
Twitter drama that's distracting it
doesn't matter so there are really a few
ways to look at this three options I
call it number one Elon Musk hates Sam
Alman so much and does not want Sam
ultman to be in charge of advanced
artificial intelligence or the funds
that potentially come with owning 7% s a
nonprofit that would give him an
opportunity to have control in advanced
AI even somewhere else and that Elon is
doing this for Humanity because he's
trying to protect Humanity from the
dangers of Sam Alman that is option
number one option number two Elon is
just a bitter child uh who is upset that
chat GPT is a better product than
grock I'm just saying these as options
I'm not saying that's my opinion so
please don't get mad at me you might
think that grock is a lot better I'm
just saying okay these are just options
here okay so one is Elon just hates the
guy and and is doing this for Humanity
uh number two Elon is bitter that ulate
has a better product and Elon actually
wants the better product so Elon can
have control of the better product Wall
Street Journal reports that if Elon got
control of open AI he would merge it
with xai which then makes you wonder
like bro you just bought like 100,000
h100 Nvidia chips to compete with open
AI why do you need to buy them if your
product is better
option number three maybe Elon Musk
wants the $500 billion Stargate
investment over the next 5 years and
this is just a backd door way for him to
raise some more money which then leads
back to Tesla stock where people go crap
if Elon needs money to raise as part of
his Consortium is there a risk that he's
potentially going to sell Tesla stock
again remember he told us after he
dumped the stock 24 25 billion do worth
in 2022 which is terrible led to you
know
solid decline in the stock valuation for
a while there constant selling uh you
know he promised he wouldn't sell in
2023 that he might sell in 2024 he
didn't so far he hasn't sold in 2025 So
In fairness he's he's you know beat
expectations there possibly because uh X
is maybe now ebit profitable which is
fantastic it's a wonderful thing I mean
congratulations to X they've really
carved it out over there and they've
really designed the algorithm to be
quite addicting I have actually had to
uninstall X from my phone uh because it
it just like it's turned into this
like uh Tik Tok Instagram phenomenon
where you can just kind of scroll
forever except you justify it as oh well
you know I occasionally see something
news related so I could justify it as as
I'm not wasting my time like on
Instagram or or uh Tik Tok but the flip
side is Instagram or Tik Tok make you
laugh every so
often Twitter X just makes you depressed
it's a cesspool of
negativity and I think it's really bad
for people's mental health so for me you
know I'll just speak for myself here I
have had to uninstall it I'll still go
on it occasionally on the internet but I
am preferring what I what I I talked to
course members about this yesterday and
we've got a new schedule coming out
tomorrow which would be really cool but
um I have notifications on now on my
phone uh for Discord so like I can I can
look at my phone uh and uh I could look
at my uh what's it called you you sort
of scroll down and you get the summary
notifications uh come on summary
notifications there we go summary
notifications uh and and I could see uh
your comments right here uh yeah I've
got a bunch of them just in the last
hour here I've got like six or seven of
them uh oh I got to turn off reacted
emojis though uh because then that way I
I I don't get all the Emoji reactions
but I can actually see what you're
saying but uh anyway I'm going through
this as opposed to my Twitter so like
you're becoming the course members are
now my new Twitter and it's great
because I love seeing your comments and
I think you're all level-headed
reasonable people even those of you who
aren't course members I think if you
watch this channel you watch it because
you're looking for a reasoned
perspective I don't think I'm I'm ever
going to be I I just can't do it you
know Allin YOLO one-sided it's just not
me so um this this this drama about open
AI though is putting some unfortunately
negative weight on Tesla I believe
because it does send that potential
signal of that would Elon maybe have to
sell any stock right so now you've
got uh the downside of the model uh you
know new model release you've got uh
Insider selling and you've got the open
AI pressure so those are three problems
already what's a fourth problem well
fourth problem is full self-driving
Tesla stock has basically been priced in
such a way with valuation that's quite
High We we'll pull the new valuation
right now but it it's been priced in
such a way that
they're going to be the only company
that has full self-driving cars and we
know with a fact that that is already
untrue because and I'm not pitching weo
here but I'm just saying weo is already
a full self-driving vehicle that is
functioning and giving people taxi rides
they are already ahead of Tesla not
sense now I'm not Shilling for weo
because they're obviously geog gated you
know geofence uh and and uh we don't
have the universal full self-driving of
a vision based technology that doesn't
use lar so a lower cost Mass producer
able welf driving robotaxi technology
that you know is expected to launch as
late as July August of this year in
Austin and then quickly in other states
blah blah blah like this is all
wonderful but all of that upside came
over the last you know four months in
Tesla stock but now you start hearing
these Partnerships with uh you know Uber
uh and mobile ey uh or was it lift and
mobile ey I can't remember I think it
was actually lift and it was LIF and
mobile ey uh about them wanting to
launch Robo taxi services now all of a
sudden you start looking and go oh I
didn't know I have to actually price in
competition here so you know mobile ey
was up like 133% yesterday you know we
were talking with course members about
this idea of maybe you need a full
self-driving portfolio or Tesla is just
sort of one of the eggs in that basket
and then you can incorporate other
companies like the lyts and the Ubers
and the Mobil eyes and and maybe even
the Nvidia given that you know they do
have the Nvidia Orin platform Orin and
Thor platform the drive platform uh for
essentially creating uh an FSD product
for any manufacturer Vehicles now you
know Elon has been teasing this idea of
FSD licensing with other car companies
but I just want to put that to bed
really quickly it ain't going to happen
uh first of all it's been pitched since
the beginning of 2023 second of all Elon
told us in an earnings call it would
take about 5 years for from licensing
agreement signed to in vehicle like
design it integrate it test it whatever
take about 5 years
that's slow so uh but the problem is now
with elon's
politics I don't think any brand wants
that Association because it's just going
to come with a negative downside of an
association with Elon at this point uh
and oh I want to hit the valuation of
Tesla too but I want to be
clear elon's while I do the valuation
here elon's politics unfortunately
are starting to hurt more than they have
in the past this idea of just supporting
Trump was one thing okay you donated to
Trump fine a lot of people donated to
Trump that doesn't you know if you're a
Democrat that doesn't make you that
shouldn't make you think of that person
as a bad person it's like okay they had
a preference and they supported their
candidate that's fine but now what you
have
is an active role inside of an
Administration as an unpaid employee of
the
administration and usually your Peak
popularity as a president is the day
you're elected and it's straight down
from there so there's really like you
just can't make everyone happy in
politics no matter how Noble of a cause
you're doing like cutting fraud and
waste big everybody should be a big fan
of that I'm not saying everything
deserves to be cut like research funding
at institutions uh like like colleges or
whatever and there there are debates
about what should be kept and not you
know I I personally have some concerns
concerns about the gutting of the
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
mostly because my entire career was
founded on quality real estate loans
ability to repay truth and lending the
good faith estimate like I went through
all of that right that transition after
2008 and so like it gives me
uh like kind of shakes me to the core a
little bit that we could potentially go
back to lending like we saw in
2008 uh well leading up to 2008 I don't
I I haven't put my full thoughts
together on all that yet but that's
honestly a topic for a real estate video
but anyway that kind of stuff is is just
going to take some people and you make
them not like Elon and then therefore
they just won't buy Teslas uh be worse
than it's ever been in the past Tesla
right now is trading for a 115 PE ratio
we're expecting EPS to grow at a clip of
23 expecting it to grow at
139% over the next um four years on
average or in total divided by four puts
you at about a 35 on a PE Ratio or um uh
earnings growth ratio and if I divide
the PE Ratio 115 by earnings growth at
35 trading at a 3.2
Peg it's less Rich than it was in the
400s great but it's still not where I
love it I love it at a
1.6 okay so uh we could reverse this
right if I go 1.67 * 35
Time end of the year EPS 291 this is my
reverse valuation math
170 buy it up baby buy it up I'm not
saying we're going there can we go there
of course am I shorting the stock
now
um it could it could go up 20% tomorrow
on Elon announcing a new product you
know it was just saying like where the
valuation at current earnings is
delicious to me is like 170 now could I
be convinced to say because of FSD and
robots that we could go for a 2.67 Peg
and I'd be willing to pay a
271 yeah sure in fact I think if you get
down to the 295 line there's a case for
buying it there's a case for nibbling it
right like I I've made this my thesis is
I I'll go like this is not personalized
Financial advice generic
thesis at 330 you buy three or 4%
at 295 you go to five or
6% at
240 you go to
78% at uh you know 170 you're like 12%
you see what I mean so like and and
honestly if you get down to like you
know 100 that's when you want to be like
you know 15% unless the company's going
bankrupt which I don't think it will be
uh that's when you want to that's
probably that would be the definition of
like the rock bottom of Elon is priced
in
and and you know that's where you just
you really just max your like your
allocation to it in in a reasonable and
Safe Way my
take because then you're below the 167
right then you start trading like end
phase uh which you know they're trading
for under a onepeg that whenever rates
come down will do very very well uh we
don't know when that's going to be you
know Tesla would also benefit by the way
from rates coming down but so far unless
Donald Trump's you know Cuts create a
recession which they
H you know you're not going to get a
rapid reduction in in rates here anytime
soon that's also a topic for a different
video but you know remember the
government makes up like 40% of GDP so
even though it might seem like
entertaining to say oh look at all these
things that are getting cut all those
things that are in Cut think of them
like negative stimulus
checks remember what stimulus did to the
economy so now think negative stimulus
checks uh yeah
so uh in case you're wondering why Tesla
stock is falling there you go if you
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