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hey everybody kevin here in this video

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i'm going to talk about one of the worst

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earnings calls that i've seen from the

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end of last week i read through every

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word of this and i'm a little bit

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nervous about what they had to say about

0:09

inflation but they also give us some

0:11

good news in terms of an outlook and

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this is really important for all sectors

0:16

of our market now a lot of people keep

0:18

saying oh but kevin kevin apple said

0:21

that their supply chain issues were

0:23

starting to u-turn yeah i have that

0:26

right here because i actually read the

0:28

transcript and i've talked about this

0:29

and apple here says quote we still

0:32

expect significant supply constraints

0:34

but less than what we've seen in

0:35

december that's good so far this is the

0:37

only company that has given us

0:39

positivity on supply chain constraints

0:40

and that's apple but they still call the

0:42

supply chain constraints quote

0:44

significant but what we want to do is we

0:46

want to look past companies like apple

0:48

who have the biggest pricing in

0:49

negotiating power and we want to

0:51

understand what's it like being a

0:52

manufacturer right now because that's

0:54

where we're seeing the massive amounts

0:56

of inflation coming from because they

0:58

increase the prices of everything that

1:00

consumers touch and that's why we've got

1:03

to talk about this particular earnings

1:05

call that i'm going to break up here and

1:07

i'm going to give you all the specific

1:08

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right let's jump over into this report

1:33

and i'm going to keep this as quick and

1:34

dirty as possible so we can get through

1:35

this as fast as possible all right uh

1:37

and i'll draw some conclusions as we go

1:39

as well quote we took decisive action to

1:42

offset the impact of higher costs with

1:44

how did they do it how are they

1:45

offsetting higher prices

1:47

for their input costs well guess what

1:49

significant pricing action in other

1:51

words they're increasing prices like

1:53

crazy over at kimberly clark remember

1:55

these are manufacturers of things like

1:56

toilet paper paper towels and so on and

1:58

so forth now they say that their input

2:00

costs have escalated well beyond

2:02

previous levels and supply chain

2:04

disruptions limited our ability to meet

2:06

the full fully growing consumer demand

2:08

okay so more demand supply chain issues

2:10

look this is the same crap that we heard

2:12

from raytheon 3m and general electric uh

2:15

two weeks ago when they all came out and

2:17

said we're basically getting reamed

2:19

because of inflation

2:20

and the related supply chain effects

2:22

especially omicron but what i really

2:25

want to show you here is how their their

2:27

wording kind of changes this is just the

2:29

intro and they go right into this but

2:31

first take a look at this we've taken

2:33

significant pricing action and expect

2:34

pricing to offset a majority of the

2:36

impact of the cost of inflation so in

2:38

other words they're saying we think that

2:40

demand is so strong that the the uh

2:44

demand is so essentially inelastic in

2:47

other words it doesn't matter what the

2:49

price is people will pay for the product

2:51

they just want their toilet paper

2:53

they're not going to go shop at a

2:54

different company they will pay a higher

2:55

price and so this company's saying

2:58

there's significant pricing in the plan

3:00

and we've estimated the elasticity of

3:02

demand and according to their what they

3:04

call conservative consumptions they

3:06

believe they're not going to have any

3:08

issues raising prices if anything they

3:10

might actually be able to raise prices

3:13

more than they expect because they think

3:15

they're being conservative by saying

3:16

they're going to wash all of the

3:18

inflationary impacts simply by raising

3:21

prices remember folks every time you

3:23

hear raising prices you should be

3:25

thinking federal reserve reading this

3:27

kind of report i'm sure they do or

3:28

somebody summarizes for them who knows

3:30

maybe they subscribe to the channel i

3:31

hope you do anyway probably like okay

3:33

all the more reason that we need to

3:35

raise rates and even if they just talk

3:37

about raising rates it lowers inflation

3:40

expectations in the long term because it

3:42

tells the market hey the fed's on the

3:44

case and we're raising rates we're going

3:46

to act we're going to walk the walk

3:47

which is exactly what the feds started

3:49

saying at the end of last week

3:51

remember i broke down neil kashgari's

3:53

discussion anyway and that's exactly

3:55

what we said we got to walk the walk

3:56

bostick said the same thing over at the

3:57

fed but anyway look at this inflation

3:59

outlook for 2022 this is crazy

4:02

approximately half of the inflation for

4:04

2022 is expected to come from the

4:05

distribution of their products and from

4:08

energy so that means getting it moved

4:10

around on trains or ocean liners or

4:13

freight or whatever which i went through

4:15

the earnings call for ups as well and

4:18

one of the things that's making ups

4:20

skyrocket is the fact that they're

4:22

returning a lot of money to shareholders

4:24

and this is literally what institutions

4:25

want right now they're running away from

4:27

tech and they're jumping over into

4:28

dividend stocks and

4:30

companies doing stock buybacks or

4:32

whatever so ups killed it with their uh

4:34

their expectations too and take a look

4:36

at what ups says i know i'm jumping a

4:37

little bit here briefly but from an

4:39

inflation standpoint i think we would

4:41

look for higher growth in the first half

4:43

of the year versus the second half so

4:45

ups talking about inflation a lot as

4:47

well in the earnings call and the big

4:49

takeaway from the ups earnings call was

4:51

really that yeah uh prices are higher

4:55

and we expect the first half of the year

4:56

basically prices to continue to increase

4:59

in fact they're talking about how what

5:01

they're trying to do is not only

5:03

increase their efficiencies in the long

5:04

term like in the future what they're

5:06

going to do is include rfid tags on all

5:08

their packages they say so that way they

5:10

can no longer have to manually sort 20

5:13

million packages a day and have

5:15

computers do these but take a look at

5:17

this demand for products going forward

5:19

is continuing to be strong and ocean

5:22

shipments were double digits uh growth

5:24

were up double digits and container

5:26

rates remain elevated so they're not

5:29

seeing uh many much relief either in

5:32

terms of supply chain issues and

5:33

bottlenecks and that that's over at ups

5:35

but anyway we're focusing on kimberly

5:37

clark right now and so half of the

5:39

inflation's coming from distribution and

5:41

energy so in theory you could look at

5:43

like gas prices and oil prices and go as

5:44

long as those remain high probably going

5:46

to have significant inflationary sort of

5:48

tailwinds that keep pushing inflation

5:50

figures up in addition to rising rents

5:52

for consumers but anyway focusing on

5:54

kimberly here uh so they

5:57

talk about how and this was a crazy

5:59

point

6:00

the contracts that they have for the

6:02

commodities so whether that's the pulp

6:04

or the softwoods or whatever products

6:06

they use to make their their stuff

6:09

they use contracts to essentially say

6:12

hey we'll continue to buy your softwood

6:14

all year long at x price well the

6:17

problem is those reset at the end and

6:19

beginning of the year so basically we

6:21

just hit the beginning here reset at the

6:22

beginning of the year so we just hit a

6:24

reset which basically means their costs

6:26

are going to balloon in the first half

6:29

of the year and they're going to raise

6:31

prices to try to offset that over the

6:34

next six to 12 months they say it

6:36

specifically here there's some lag built

6:38

into the high inflation that you see and

6:41

so the rising costs that they're seeing

6:43

from their contract resets aren't

6:44

actually going to show up in consumer

6:46

prices until probably the next three to

6:49

six months in fact later in this they

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give this example about how they

6:53

they increase prices in august on a

6:56

particular product that they don't

6:57

actually think is going to show up

6:59

with actual increased prices yet until

7:01

january because it takes them maybe that

7:03

long to to shift pricing i'm not exactly

7:05

sure why but it's something that they

7:07

mentioned so big lag time they have here

7:09

in inflation big priority in this

7:11

conference call came up over and over

7:12

and over again was they want to focus on

7:14

getting their margins up and they plan

7:16

to get their margins up primarily by

7:19

raising prices and so far looks like

7:21

people are just paying it now they do

7:23

think that in the future we're going to

7:24

see a reversion that means commodity

7:26

prices come back down to normal but they

7:28

spent a good portion of their conference

7:30

call talking about how this time is

7:32

different and i hate the phrase this

7:34

time is different because i think

7:36

history rhymes but when you're trying to

7:38

rhyme history and you're trying to rhyme

7:39

apple and orange it just doesn't work

7:42

and no matter how you slice it it is

7:44

different things are a lot worse this

7:46

time than they had been in the past and

7:48

that's exactly what kimberly clark here

7:50

is saying they're saying this cycle is

7:52

different because the peak is higher

7:53

it's broader and it's longer lasting

7:57

this means every aspect is more

7:59

expensive for them uh from delivering to

8:01

acquiring commodities to shipping them

8:03

out uh to uh to their employee costs you

8:07

name it now they do think that if

8:10

commodity prices do revert down which

8:12

they think will they they do believe

8:14

that at some point we will see a

8:15

reversion of commodities prices then

8:17

their profits could recover faster but

8:19

in the meantime they're talking about

8:21

this atypical

8:23

set of inflationary pressures that they

8:25

really haven't seen before in the past

8:28

they do expect to make progress on

8:30

recovering their margins but like they

8:31

said it's going to take time now the

8:33

stock actually is only down about four

8:35

and a half percent year to date one of

8:36

the reasons for that in my opinion is

8:37

because it's a dividend stock and people

8:38

are like running to dividend stocks or

8:40

manufacturers that they think are

8:41

dealing with inflation by raising prices

8:43

and that's kind of what you have here is

8:45

a manufacturer that's like yeah we're

8:46

going to raise prices a lot and we're

8:47

going to pull it off really well

8:49

distribution costs are up meaningfully

8:51

and they will contin continue to be our

8:53

expectation that will continue to be our

8:55

expectation for 2022.

8:56

demand is exceeding our ability to

8:58

supply at the moment taking any dime

9:01

down okay but this is more talking about

9:02

their machine and efficiency in this i'm

9:03

going to step away from this basically

9:05

really quick there's they were talking

9:06

about hey like how about upgrading your

9:08

machines so you can make your machines

9:10

more efficient and they're like right

9:11

now we're so overwhelmed with a crappy

9:13

supply chain that we don't want any

9:15

downtime on our manufacturing line right

9:17

now we're all for innovating we're all

9:19

for advertising and getting more

9:20

business but right now the only thing we

9:22

need to focus on is getting our margins

9:24

up by increasing prices

9:26

this is that's why this is like the

9:27

craziest earnings call that i've seen in

9:30

a while on on inflation and you know

9:32

people are like oh but this you know

9:35

inflation data looks backwards well

9:36

guess what inflation data doesn't look

9:38

backwards it's what companies are saying

9:39

in their earnings calls that's why this

9:41

is so important but anyway

9:43

once they say here once the commodity

9:45

pressure uh will oh well actually let me

9:47

rephrase that here they say they've got

9:48

a few issues the commodity pressure they

9:51

believe will continue to be intense and

9:53

inflation in the first quarter will be

9:55

high

9:56

uh the pricing isn't fully in yet either

9:58

so this is where they just reiterate

10:00

that

10:00

uh we're expecting a lot of inflation in

10:02

the first three to six months of 2022

10:04

and it's going to take us a while for us

10:06

to actually raise prices which then

10:08

thinking a step further that means

10:09

consumer price the consumer price index

10:11

might actually not come down as quickly

10:13

as expected unless companies start you

10:15

know

10:15

stopping the

10:17

price increases because remember if if

10:19

apple let's say sells you a one hundred

10:20

dollar pencil now for a hundred dollars

10:22

and a hundred and ten dollars next year

10:25

if they leave it at a hundred ten

10:26

dollars well the cpi from here to here

10:28

is actually zero percent growth right

10:30

the issue what we're looking for

10:32

is when is apple or whomever going to

10:35

stop continually raising prices right

10:38

and even though apple's like oh yeah

10:40

maybe maybe it'll be slightly better in

10:41

q1 for supply chains even though they're

10:43

still going to have significant issues

10:46

when would price increases actually stop

10:49

in my opinion it only stops when

10:51

consumers stop borrowing and to uh to

10:53

essentially buy stuff

10:55

and so far we're not seeing consumers

10:57

stop at all in fact if anything uh there

11:00

some folks are saying maybe we'll see a

11:02

little bit of a pause because of omicron

11:04

basically you get this like january

11:06

pause brief period this brief little

11:08

hole in mobility and spending but so far

11:11

all the earnings calls i'm reading

11:12

including ups uh the the banks the tech

11:16

companies they're all saying they expect

11:18

2022 to be a banger year because people

11:21

keep spending and spending like crazy

11:23

and usually that's a good thing but it's

11:25

not a good thing in an inflationary

11:26

environment because it means the fed's

11:28

going to come down harder so it's kind

11:29

of like good news is bad news right okay

11:32

we're in the midst of a pretty acute

11:33

supply chain disruption caused by

11:35

omicron so that's not bad they are do

11:37

expect at some point commodity prices to

11:39

go down we talked about that already we

11:40

expect uh pricing to be fully built in

11:44

the market in the second half so maybe

11:46

by like july to august and september

11:50

maybe

11:51

we'll stop seeing that month-over-month

11:52

increase in pricing because the

11:53

companies will have fully built in their

11:56

price increases we got hit with 1.5

11:58

billion dollars of inflation costs which

12:00

is kind of insane given that this

12:02

company nets like 1.8 billion uh but

12:05

obviously that's net versus like cost

12:06

but still it's crazy

12:08

uh a ceo regularly talks about how they

12:10

want to increase margins okay we got

12:11

some other juicy things in here so uh

12:14

the elasticity modeling that they're

12:17

talking about

12:18

they get asked basically about like how

12:20

much do you actually think you're going

12:21

to be able to raise prices right because

12:23

prices have been going up quite a bit

12:26

and so can you break down a little bit

12:27

about how much y'all can raise prices

12:30

and so they talk about that here

12:32

first they start by saying they think

12:34

they can raise prices over the course of

12:36

a year mid to high single digits

12:39

and that could vary based on conditions

12:41

but what's really interesting here is

12:44

not only do they talk about

12:45

raising prices basically between five to

12:48

ten percent but somebody else replies

12:50

and says listen this very very smart

12:52

question here

12:54

is that the way we should be thinking

12:56

for the total between 2021 and 2022

12:59

you're going to hit high single digit

13:01

price increases is that the way to think

13:03

so basically

13:04

in total uh between 2021 and 2022 high

13:08

single digits she's revising uh what

13:11

they said here which is

13:13

mid to high single digits and just

13:15

saying you're hitting

13:17

the high single digits aren't you for

13:18

inflation and the executives are like uh

13:20

yep pretty much

13:22

uh so a lot of pricing power and they

13:25

expect that to continue they did mention

13:27

that private label sales were down

13:29

specifically in things like diapers i

13:30

don't know exactly how that affects

13:32

honest but they did talk about this a

13:34

little bit here they

13:35

do again reiterate here that they want

13:37

their pricing to offset as much of the

13:40

inflation as possible but they do say

13:42

here that if inflation continues to run

13:45

will continue to price look how

13:47

confident these freaking companies are

13:49

they say that there's going to be a

13:51

reversion at some point commodity prices

13:53

will come down this is kind of like at

13:55

some point supply chain conditions will

13:56

get better right but here listen to the

13:59

response but i don't want our teams

14:01

waiting for commodities to come down to

14:03

drive margin recovery in other words

14:05

look we're not going to wait to make

14:07

more money because supply chains get

14:08

better we're going to raise prices

14:10

so that way we can start dealing with

14:12

our margins and if supply chains get

14:13

better great then we'll just make more

14:14

money at that point to me this is kind

14:16

of like the fed this is kind of like the

14:18

fed saying hey we're not going to wait

14:19

for inflation to come down at this point

14:21

we just need to act we need to walk the

14:22

walk hopefully that sets expectations

14:24

that inflation is going to come down and

14:26

then because it's somewhat

14:29

self-fulfilling maybe that inflation

14:30

actually does come down but anyway again

14:33

five plus percent pricing this year they

14:35

expect their price increases to lag

14:38

they do uh indicate that a bit obvious

14:41

obviously office and business travel

14:42

still below

14:45

pre-pandemic estimates and they expect

14:48

not to see a full recovery even this

14:50

year in those particular sectors they do

14:52

say they're in a very tough part of the

14:54

cycle right now in terms of

14:56

trying to make sure they deal with this

14:57

inflation crisis

14:59

and uh they also say that they're

15:02

they're not investing as much money

15:04

right now in advertising or big

15:07

innovations even though those are really

15:09

really important to advertise more you

15:11

really don't need more customers right

15:12

now because you're so overwhelmed and

15:14

innovation is really really important

15:15

but like they mentioned earlier earlier

15:17

they don't want to take their machines

15:18

off the line to replace them with new

15:20

ones now's not the time to do it now

15:21

it's just kind of like buckle down get

15:23

the prices up and just put the product

15:25

out there and sell it because prices are

15:27

so freaking hot

15:28

uh so that's a little bit of a summary

15:30

here on innovation though they do try to

15:32

they try to clear clarify this a little

15:34

bit we're not pulling back on our

15:36

innovation investment notice that sort

15:38

of like more tilted towards the negative

15:40

right instead of like oh we're investing

15:42

heavily in innovation they're like we're

15:43

not investing less in innovation they're

15:46

just not a priority right now because

15:48

we're getting reamed over here with

15:49

inflation

15:50

so that's the kimberly clock earnings

15:52

call now takeaways from this okay to me

15:54

this this is huge this is even though

15:56

i don't know i bet you know maybe like

15:58

one percent of us actually invest in

15:59

kimberly clark unless it's through like

16:01

an etf when we look at this

16:03

or an index fund for that matter we look

16:06

at this this is in my opinion quite

16:07

nasty because it shows you that these

16:09

companies they can't just raise prices

16:12

once it's not like that apple pencil is

16:14

going from 100 to 110 and then they're

16:16

done they're raising they're they're

16:19

cooking us like that lobster they're

16:20

putting the live lobster in the pot and

16:22

they turn the heat up not all the way up

16:25

they just turn it up slowly they're

16:27

boiling us slowly with these price

16:29

increases and they're literally so

16:31

confident that they can rip us off with

16:33

higher prices

16:34

why

16:35

because we're paying it

16:38

that's not good for the future of cpi

16:40

and i'm not sure if the market is fully

16:42

pricing in uh these inflation fears yet

16:45

especially since as of three months ago

16:47

and myself included there were 50 to 60

16:50

of people who were still in inflationist

16:53

transitory you know in that camp in camp

16:55

transitory right the more you see camp

16:57

transitory become holy crap

17:00

the fed's really got to deal with this

17:02

and so far they're screwing i mean

17:03

screwing us up i mean they're still

17:04

printing money

17:06

the more you could potentially continue

17:08

to see pain

17:09

in uh in this particular sector or

17:12

really just well the sector of the stock

17:14

market so basically everything when it

17:16

comes to inflation so yeah anyway

17:18

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