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hey everybody kevin here in this video
i'm going to talk about one of the worst
earnings calls that i've seen from the
end of last week i read through every
word of this and i'm a little bit
nervous about what they had to say about
inflation but they also give us some
good news in terms of an outlook and
this is really important for all sectors
of our market now a lot of people keep
saying oh but kevin kevin apple said
that their supply chain issues were
starting to u-turn yeah i have that
right here because i actually read the
transcript and i've talked about this
and apple here says quote we still
expect significant supply constraints
but less than what we've seen in
december that's good so far this is the
only company that has given us
positivity on supply chain constraints
and that's apple but they still call the
supply chain constraints quote
significant but what we want to do is we
want to look past companies like apple
who have the biggest pricing in
negotiating power and we want to
understand what's it like being a
manufacturer right now because that's
where we're seeing the massive amounts
of inflation coming from because they
increase the prices of everything that
consumers touch and that's why we've got
to talk about this particular earnings
call that i'm going to break up here and
i'm going to give you all the specific
details but first a quick message from
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right let's jump over into this report
and i'm going to keep this as quick and
dirty as possible so we can get through
this as fast as possible all right uh
and i'll draw some conclusions as we go
as well quote we took decisive action to
offset the impact of higher costs with
how did they do it how are they
offsetting higher prices
for their input costs well guess what
significant pricing action in other
words they're increasing prices like
crazy over at kimberly clark remember
these are manufacturers of things like
toilet paper paper towels and so on and
so forth now they say that their input
costs have escalated well beyond
previous levels and supply chain
disruptions limited our ability to meet
the full fully growing consumer demand
okay so more demand supply chain issues
look this is the same crap that we heard
from raytheon 3m and general electric uh
two weeks ago when they all came out and
said we're basically getting reamed
because of inflation
and the related supply chain effects
especially omicron but what i really
want to show you here is how their their
wording kind of changes this is just the
intro and they go right into this but
first take a look at this we've taken
significant pricing action and expect
pricing to offset a majority of the
impact of the cost of inflation so in
other words they're saying we think that
demand is so strong that the the uh
demand is so essentially inelastic in
other words it doesn't matter what the
price is people will pay for the product
they just want their toilet paper
they're not going to go shop at a
different company they will pay a higher
price and so this company's saying
there's significant pricing in the plan
and we've estimated the elasticity of
demand and according to their what they
call conservative consumptions they
believe they're not going to have any
issues raising prices if anything they
might actually be able to raise prices
more than they expect because they think
they're being conservative by saying
they're going to wash all of the
inflationary impacts simply by raising
prices remember folks every time you
hear raising prices you should be
thinking federal reserve reading this
kind of report i'm sure they do or
somebody summarizes for them who knows
maybe they subscribe to the channel i
hope you do anyway probably like okay
all the more reason that we need to
raise rates and even if they just talk
about raising rates it lowers inflation
expectations in the long term because it
tells the market hey the fed's on the
case and we're raising rates we're going
to act we're going to walk the walk
which is exactly what the feds started
saying at the end of last week
remember i broke down neil kashgari's
discussion anyway and that's exactly
what we said we got to walk the walk
bostick said the same thing over at the
fed but anyway look at this inflation
outlook for 2022 this is crazy
approximately half of the inflation for
2022 is expected to come from the
distribution of their products and from
energy so that means getting it moved
around on trains or ocean liners or
freight or whatever which i went through
the earnings call for ups as well and
one of the things that's making ups
skyrocket is the fact that they're
returning a lot of money to shareholders
and this is literally what institutions
want right now they're running away from
tech and they're jumping over into
dividend stocks and
companies doing stock buybacks or
whatever so ups killed it with their uh
their expectations too and take a look
at what ups says i know i'm jumping a
little bit here briefly but from an
inflation standpoint i think we would
look for higher growth in the first half
of the year versus the second half so
ups talking about inflation a lot as
well in the earnings call and the big
takeaway from the ups earnings call was
really that yeah uh prices are higher
and we expect the first half of the year
basically prices to continue to increase
in fact they're talking about how what
they're trying to do is not only
increase their efficiencies in the long
term like in the future what they're
going to do is include rfid tags on all
their packages they say so that way they
can no longer have to manually sort 20
million packages a day and have
computers do these but take a look at
this demand for products going forward
is continuing to be strong and ocean
shipments were double digits uh growth
were up double digits and container
rates remain elevated so they're not
seeing uh many much relief either in
terms of supply chain issues and
bottlenecks and that that's over at ups
but anyway we're focusing on kimberly
clark right now and so half of the
inflation's coming from distribution and
energy so in theory you could look at
like gas prices and oil prices and go as
long as those remain high probably going
to have significant inflationary sort of
tailwinds that keep pushing inflation
figures up in addition to rising rents
for consumers but anyway focusing on
kimberly here uh so they
talk about how and this was a crazy
point
the contracts that they have for the
commodities so whether that's the pulp
or the softwoods or whatever products
they use to make their their stuff
they use contracts to essentially say
hey we'll continue to buy your softwood
all year long at x price well the
problem is those reset at the end and
beginning of the year so basically we
just hit the beginning here reset at the
beginning of the year so we just hit a
reset which basically means their costs
are going to balloon in the first half
of the year and they're going to raise
prices to try to offset that over the
next six to 12 months they say it
specifically here there's some lag built
into the high inflation that you see and
so the rising costs that they're seeing
from their contract resets aren't
actually going to show up in consumer
prices until probably the next three to
six months in fact later in this they
give this example about how they
they increase prices in august on a
particular product that they don't
actually think is going to show up
with actual increased prices yet until
january because it takes them maybe that
long to to shift pricing i'm not exactly
sure why but it's something that they
mentioned so big lag time they have here
in inflation big priority in this
conference call came up over and over
and over again was they want to focus on
getting their margins up and they plan
to get their margins up primarily by
raising prices and so far looks like
people are just paying it now they do
think that in the future we're going to
see a reversion that means commodity
prices come back down to normal but they
spent a good portion of their conference
call talking about how this time is
different and i hate the phrase this
time is different because i think
history rhymes but when you're trying to
rhyme history and you're trying to rhyme
apple and orange it just doesn't work
and no matter how you slice it it is
different things are a lot worse this
time than they had been in the past and
that's exactly what kimberly clark here
is saying they're saying this cycle is
different because the peak is higher
it's broader and it's longer lasting
this means every aspect is more
expensive for them uh from delivering to
acquiring commodities to shipping them
out uh to uh to their employee costs you
name it now they do think that if
commodity prices do revert down which
they think will they they do believe
that at some point we will see a
reversion of commodities prices then
their profits could recover faster but
in the meantime they're talking about
this atypical
set of inflationary pressures that they
really haven't seen before in the past
they do expect to make progress on
recovering their margins but like they
said it's going to take time now the
stock actually is only down about four
and a half percent year to date one of
the reasons for that in my opinion is
because it's a dividend stock and people
are like running to dividend stocks or
manufacturers that they think are
dealing with inflation by raising prices
and that's kind of what you have here is
a manufacturer that's like yeah we're
going to raise prices a lot and we're
going to pull it off really well
distribution costs are up meaningfully
and they will contin continue to be our
expectation that will continue to be our
expectation for 2022.
demand is exceeding our ability to
supply at the moment taking any dime
down okay but this is more talking about
their machine and efficiency in this i'm
going to step away from this basically
really quick there's they were talking
about hey like how about upgrading your
machines so you can make your machines
more efficient and they're like right
now we're so overwhelmed with a crappy
supply chain that we don't want any
downtime on our manufacturing line right
now we're all for innovating we're all
for advertising and getting more
business but right now the only thing we
need to focus on is getting our margins
up by increasing prices
this is that's why this is like the
craziest earnings call that i've seen in
a while on on inflation and you know
people are like oh but this you know
inflation data looks backwards well
guess what inflation data doesn't look
backwards it's what companies are saying
in their earnings calls that's why this
is so important but anyway
once they say here once the commodity
pressure uh will oh well actually let me
rephrase that here they say they've got
a few issues the commodity pressure they
believe will continue to be intense and
inflation in the first quarter will be
high
uh the pricing isn't fully in yet either
so this is where they just reiterate
that
uh we're expecting a lot of inflation in
the first three to six months of 2022
and it's going to take us a while for us
to actually raise prices which then
thinking a step further that means
consumer price the consumer price index
might actually not come down as quickly
as expected unless companies start you
know
stopping the
price increases because remember if if
apple let's say sells you a one hundred
dollar pencil now for a hundred dollars
and a hundred and ten dollars next year
if they leave it at a hundred ten
dollars well the cpi from here to here
is actually zero percent growth right
the issue what we're looking for
is when is apple or whomever going to
stop continually raising prices right
and even though apple's like oh yeah
maybe maybe it'll be slightly better in
q1 for supply chains even though they're
still going to have significant issues
when would price increases actually stop
in my opinion it only stops when
consumers stop borrowing and to uh to
essentially buy stuff
and so far we're not seeing consumers
stop at all in fact if anything uh there
some folks are saying maybe we'll see a
little bit of a pause because of omicron
basically you get this like january
pause brief period this brief little
hole in mobility and spending but so far
all the earnings calls i'm reading
including ups uh the the banks the tech
companies they're all saying they expect
2022 to be a banger year because people
keep spending and spending like crazy
and usually that's a good thing but it's
not a good thing in an inflationary
environment because it means the fed's
going to come down harder so it's kind
of like good news is bad news right okay
we're in the midst of a pretty acute
supply chain disruption caused by
omicron so that's not bad they are do
expect at some point commodity prices to
go down we talked about that already we
expect uh pricing to be fully built in
the market in the second half so maybe
by like july to august and september
maybe
we'll stop seeing that month-over-month
increase in pricing because the
companies will have fully built in their
price increases we got hit with 1.5
billion dollars of inflation costs which
is kind of insane given that this
company nets like 1.8 billion uh but
obviously that's net versus like cost
but still it's crazy
uh a ceo regularly talks about how they
want to increase margins okay we got
some other juicy things in here so uh
the elasticity modeling that they're
talking about
they get asked basically about like how
much do you actually think you're going
to be able to raise prices right because
prices have been going up quite a bit
and so can you break down a little bit
about how much y'all can raise prices
and so they talk about that here
first they start by saying they think
they can raise prices over the course of
a year mid to high single digits
and that could vary based on conditions
but what's really interesting here is
not only do they talk about
raising prices basically between five to
ten percent but somebody else replies
and says listen this very very smart
question here
is that the way we should be thinking
for the total between 2021 and 2022
you're going to hit high single digit
price increases is that the way to think
so basically
in total uh between 2021 and 2022 high
single digits she's revising uh what
they said here which is
mid to high single digits and just
saying you're hitting
the high single digits aren't you for
inflation and the executives are like uh
yep pretty much
uh so a lot of pricing power and they
expect that to continue they did mention
that private label sales were down
specifically in things like diapers i
don't know exactly how that affects
honest but they did talk about this a
little bit here they
do again reiterate here that they want
their pricing to offset as much of the
inflation as possible but they do say
here that if inflation continues to run
will continue to price look how
confident these freaking companies are
they say that there's going to be a
reversion at some point commodity prices
will come down this is kind of like at
some point supply chain conditions will
get better right but here listen to the
response but i don't want our teams
waiting for commodities to come down to
drive margin recovery in other words
look we're not going to wait to make
more money because supply chains get
better we're going to raise prices
so that way we can start dealing with
our margins and if supply chains get
better great then we'll just make more
money at that point to me this is kind
of like the fed this is kind of like the
fed saying hey we're not going to wait
for inflation to come down at this point
we just need to act we need to walk the
walk hopefully that sets expectations
that inflation is going to come down and
then because it's somewhat
self-fulfilling maybe that inflation
actually does come down but anyway again
five plus percent pricing this year they
expect their price increases to lag
they do uh indicate that a bit obvious
obviously office and business travel
still below
pre-pandemic estimates and they expect
not to see a full recovery even this
year in those particular sectors they do
say they're in a very tough part of the
cycle right now in terms of
trying to make sure they deal with this
inflation crisis
and uh they also say that they're
they're not investing as much money
right now in advertising or big
innovations even though those are really
really important to advertise more you
really don't need more customers right
now because you're so overwhelmed and
innovation is really really important
but like they mentioned earlier earlier
they don't want to take their machines
off the line to replace them with new
ones now's not the time to do it now
it's just kind of like buckle down get
the prices up and just put the product
out there and sell it because prices are
so freaking hot
uh so that's a little bit of a summary
here on innovation though they do try to
they try to clear clarify this a little
bit we're not pulling back on our
innovation investment notice that sort
of like more tilted towards the negative
right instead of like oh we're investing
heavily in innovation they're like we're
not investing less in innovation they're
just not a priority right now because
we're getting reamed over here with
inflation
so that's the kimberly clock earnings
call now takeaways from this okay to me
this this is huge this is even though
i don't know i bet you know maybe like
one percent of us actually invest in
kimberly clark unless it's through like
an etf when we look at this
or an index fund for that matter we look
at this this is in my opinion quite
nasty because it shows you that these
companies they can't just raise prices
once it's not like that apple pencil is
going from 100 to 110 and then they're
done they're raising they're they're
cooking us like that lobster they're
putting the live lobster in the pot and
they turn the heat up not all the way up
they just turn it up slowly they're
boiling us slowly with these price
increases and they're literally so
confident that they can rip us off with
higher prices
why
because we're paying it
that's not good for the future of cpi
and i'm not sure if the market is fully
pricing in uh these inflation fears yet
especially since as of three months ago
and myself included there were 50 to 60
of people who were still in inflationist
transitory you know in that camp in camp
transitory right the more you see camp
transitory become holy crap
the fed's really got to deal with this
and so far they're screwing i mean
screwing us up i mean they're still
printing money
the more you could potentially continue
to see pain
in uh in this particular sector or
really just well the sector of the stock
market so basically everything when it
comes to inflation so yeah anyway
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