We Need to Talk about Tesla Stock
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Bloomberg is out this morning to shill
Tesla, which is somewhat surprising, but
a lot of really good notes out this
morning from Bloomberg. First, Tesla's
self-driving technology could be safer
than Whimos given its vast mileage data
collected if their crash data
mythologies are comparable. Tesla
reports about 0.15 crashes per 1 million
miles of vehicle vehicle miles driven
versus Whimo's average 1.16
crashes uh per 1 million miles driven.
Now, I'm just going to throw in my
comment here that Whimo has literally no
driver. Tesla, you've got uh you know,
this is the crash rate on autopilot. So
you have autopilot miles that you're
comparing this to plus a human driver to
take over. So a little bit of adjusting
probably required there. But that's also
a pretty significant difference, right?
0.15 crashes per 1 million miles driven
and Whimo's average being 1.1
uh crash per million miles driven. That
said, you've had substantially more
miles driven with Teslas. You've had 3
billion miles driven with Teslas. and 22
million Whimo miles. So 22 million
Whimo miles uh divided by 1.16
implies 19 incidents, right?
But if I go to Tesla's 3 billion, that's
that's pretty low. 4.5 when you get
that. That's pretty dang low. Uh so very
very low on robo taxi induced accidents
there. So you've got a pretty bullish
Bloomberg here. Since Tesla since 2023,
Tesla's FSD software has tracked 2 and a
half billion miles, almost 62 times
Whimo's miles. Although in fairness also
Whimo is only operating in very geoenced
areas. Whimo's higher incident rate
likely stems from its small size with
only a thousand vehicles versus Tesla's,
you know, one 1.6 6 mill
probably way more by now. Uh once
regulatory hurdles are cleared, Tesla is
poised to expand faster than any
existing robo taxi thanks to a sheer
volume and linear tech stack.
Interesting. So very bullish piece here
from uh Bloomberg today. They also say
that Tesla's vehicles cost 17th that of
Whimo's despite its early lead in robo
taxis for Whimo. Whimo faces a scaling
challenge versus Tesla with about 1500
vehicles in service after 7 years of
operations. Its growth remains
constrained due to a lack of car
producing capabilities. The
discontinuation of its current and only
model, the Jaguar Ipace, forced Whimo to
seek new partners. Yet Tesla is already
equipped with mass production capability
with full control over manufacturing and
a self-operated platform. These are
advantages that they're giving Tesla
here. This idea that Tesla's
manufacturing them. Tesla has their own
platform. Tesla self-insures. Whimos
don't manufacture. Whimo doesn't have
insurance. It's all third party based.
Uh and then the mileage that you've got
driven here is is you know substantially
larger obviously for Tesla. Any robo
taxi company that lacks manufacturing
might be replaced if a leader exhibits
true scale. That's interesting. So
they're basically saying if you don't
have manufacturing, you don't have a
moat to protect yourself as a robo taxi
vehicle. Very interesting. They also
talk about how Tesla's vehicle costs
about 17th that of the price of a Whimo,
which is somewhat an ode I feel like to
what Elon Musk said when he said, "Ah,
Whimos, they cost Whimo."
There's also this uh talk about
robotics. Humanoid robotics hold the key
to a manufacturing future. They uh in
here say the robots are coming,
especially in manufacturing and that
human robotics are the only solution to
being able to manufacture more because
companies simply can't hire enough
people at an affordable level. So in
other words, you want to revive US
domestic manufacturing, maybe you need
the robots to do the work. The broader
picture doesn't scream worker shortage
and get me robots now except in
manufacturing. The BLS reported 381,000
unfilled manufacturing jobs in April. Uh
that's a lot. Uh with some reports
quoting 450,000 vacancies in
manufacturing. So in a weird way,
even though we talk about job vacancies
declining in manufacturing, you have
this wide opening of available jobs for
people. So you want a job, you know, go
into manufacturing, but then again, who
wants to work in manufacturing?
Looking at those unfilled factory
positions, it's hard to turn that one
around. solution is robots
uh AI and robots combined to get
manufacturing plans to fill those
vacancies required with robots. Uh this
uh sets the stage for a Tesla Optimus
push, especially with Tesla being one of
the front runners in humanoid robotics
in addition to like Figure or Anthropic
or others. And then of course the
Chinese have plenty a bunch of robots
too with Amazon talking about
potentially uh using humanoid robotics
to partner with human drivers which is
kind of wild that we'd have humanoid
robotics delivery packages before we
have robo taxis at least broadly
self-driving cars. You've got uh you
know beyond FSD, right? Uh this idea
that you could buy a Chinese humanoid
robotic and have it basically deliver
boxes in a neighborhood at the same time
as the driver is delivering boxes. So,
you try to sort of double up your
delivery efforts here. Somewhat
interesting.
Uh, let's see here. We've got last week
Tesla filed a lawsuit against another
engineer about former um IP that was
stolen from the hand sensors. We covered
that story. Honestly, I mean, just
reading the Tesla complaint, it doesn't
look good for that person who stole the
stuff. I mean, Tesla seems to have all
the receipts to show when this
individual accessed sensitive Tesla
information.
uh also been tracking Agility Robotics
Digit. Bloomberg reported more than a
year ago that Amazon was piloting a 5'9
in humanoid in a Seattle warehouse,
picking bins off shelves and fing them
to conveyors.
That's separate from that Chinese robot.
the um CEO of that company said that
Digit is already working alongside
people at Amazon and logistics for dull
and repetitive tasks, tasks that most
humans seek to avoid and that it's not
science fiction and it's already
happening. It's pretty remarkable. And
again, that's one of the the advantages
that Tesla has. It's not so much the
robotic technology,
it's who can actually manufacture all
the robots. And I think that's one of
the reasons why we've seen Tesla perform
so well uh really over the last couple
years here in in their sort of recovery
coming out of the uh 2022 crash is
mostly because there's so much
enthusiasm around robotics and the
potential that uh Elon's legacy and
government was able to pave the way for
uh humanoid robots or uh self-driving uh
robo taxis with more broad adoption. So
it makes sense because Tesla not only
having the AI or the concepts, you know,
the actual servos to operate robotics or
whatever, they have manufacturing, which
unfortunately is terrible in high
interest rate environments selling to
consumers. Fortunately, a lot of
robotics, if we're going to fill
manufacturing jobs, don't need to be
sold to people, right? Like selling to
people
generally requires lower interest rates.
Look at the solar industry. Look at
Tesla stock during the highest of
interest rate environments. It's
challenging. But if you can potentially
open up a vertical of manufacturing for
the government like a military defense
contractor or you open the door to
manufacturing for,
you know, really rich corporations like
what we've seen with Google uh and Meta
and Microsoft buying from TSM, you know,
Nvidia chips and otherwise. Well, now
all of a sudden you're manufacturing for
a very rich cohort. And I would argue
that, you know, manufacturers in
America, especially if you combine
Donald Trump's full depreciation
benefits, you know, robots in a few
years could be very interesting because
you could buy a robot for 25K or
whatever, fully depreciate it year one
thanks to Donald Trump's, you know, big
beautiful bill and and capital
infrastructure um uh incentives. And and
now you look and go, okay, well, who's
actually making the robots? Well, you
can get a Chinese robot or you could get
a Tesla made robot. And then that's kind
of where, you know, price is really
going to be the war. Tesla's basically
the only US-based uh mass manufacturer
for for robots that we could tell at
this point. There are plenty of
prototypes, but beyond that, it's going
to be China. And so then the question
becomes, are we going to import Chinese
robots or are we going to prevent the
importation of Chinese robots like we
prevent the importation of Chinese cars?
I mean, if we are to say that, you know,
oh, companies will just buy Chinese
robots instead of US robots, well, then
why don't we all have Chinese cars?
Well, because we've been protecting our
US industry through protectionist
policies, and it's possible the same
thing could happen with Tesla. So, that
said, you know, I still think the
valuation is a little bit stretchy for
Tesla. We've thought this for a while.
you know, the manufacturing business is
maybe worth at the moment based on sales
today, you know, a buck 40 a share, 140
bucks or so. Uh, which gives you about
$190 of premium for that future
potential in manufacturing for robotics
along with obviously uh the the robo
taxi division. That said,
kind of a good point here from
Bloomberg. you know, you've got
optimistic data on safety. You've got
progress on robo taxi. Obviously, I
don't think it'll go as quickly as as uh
Elon pitches in terms of like broader
based robo taxi adoption, but but when
it comes, the one who could print robo
taxis would almost certainly be Tesla
over Whimo, unless they just pick up
leftover inventory from uh you know,
like Toyotaas or whatever and partner
with Toyota. Although, I actually feel
like I did hear about a Toyota
partnership between the two. That would
be interesting. Let me just double check
this. Toyota Whimo. Did they ever
Yeah. See, and that that makes a lot of
sense. Look at that. This just happened.
Oh, and I've been on this page before.
I've highlighted this. Whimo and Toyota
outline strategic partnership. So, to
me, this is a way of saying like Whimo
is realizing that Tesla is coming and
the advantage Tesla has is
manufacturing. Well, we already import a
lot of Toyotas. So, could Toyota be the
manufacturer for those robo taxis? And
then you wonder could someone like a TSM
basically you know Taiwan Semiconductors
could they get into manufacturing robots
to where it's not necessarily Chinese
companies but so like Chinese adjacent
right you know I I suppose if we're
talking about Taiwanese manufacturing
some OG Chinese would say that's also
Chinese manufacturing but then we get
into a whole geopolitical issue and we
don't need to go down that road. So, but
honestly, I mean, broadly bullish there
on Tesla. Uh, I will say again, I think
that I mean, you know this already. This
is old news. I think the market is a
little frothy right now. Uh, but um
let's take a look at Tesla's current
valuation where we sit. So, I want to
just see because these the estimates for
Tesla's growth have really been rising
uh over the past few I would say about
eight weeks or so. It seems like every
time I load up a financial analysis on
Tesla, the Wall Street forecast for
future earnings growth is just going up
and up and up. So, I think the last
analysis I did is we were at like 40
2% EPS growth. Current estimates are 508
plus 30.38.
Uh, there we go. I did that right. Okay.
30
Let me do this again. I'll just put it
down. 50.08 08 + 30.38 EPS growth plus
30.18 +
43.26 = / 4. Oh, interesting. They
actually got written down a little bit.
So now the average 4-year forward growth
is sitting at about 38.4.
And so 38.4 327 on the stock divided by
192 it's trading for 170 times divided
by 38.4. Dude, Tesla's trading for a 4.4
at 4 peg right now. I mean, that's
that's half as expensive as Palunteer,
and that's not anything to brag about
right now. So, definitely no panic in
the stock market valuation, that's for
sure. But uh very interesting to see the
sooths like the doomers at Bloomberg
actually writing such optimistic things
about Tesla over
uh you know Whimo and more of like the
the Google uh you know child uh that
Bloomberg I feel like usually likes to
prop up. Speaking of Google, by the way,
I did save this piece which I may as
well just quickly mention. Oh, there
goes my phone. Uh, Google search is
fading. The whole internet could go with
it. I thought this was very interesting.
Searches rapid decline. Growth rates for
US search traffic has been slowing
across various sectors. Oh, why thank
you. Uh, uh, for the past year, but the
decline accelerated in May across
sectors of the internet economy. This
has been one of my biggest concerns for
Google is that you know Google like AI
is basically replacing the need for for
Google search. I feel like this looks a
little bright but anyway uh what we have
are various different charts travel and
tourism falling off a cliff uh in May
down 20.2%. News and media down 17.1
e-commerce down 19.2 finance down 7.4
food and drink down 7.4 for lifestyle
and fashion down 4.6.
So, you know, it goes to show that, you
know, even though Google runs Whimo, it
doesn't necessarily mean they're going
to have the greatest staying power,
especially since, you know, what 56% of
their business is relying on search uh
revenues right now. So, like, in other
words, a decline or pain in search
revenues could actually potentially
limit their their funding capability for
even other projects. Maybe not. They've
got plenty of stock that they can
dilute, but uh roughly one in five
visits to the world's top internet sites
begin in search engines.
Uh okay.
Oh, that's interesting.
Uh for Trip Advisor, it's 58%.
And for Yelp, it's 51%. For Wikipedia,
it's 63%. Now, that's really interesting
because if people are searching in
Google less, Yelp could get smoked, Trip
Advisor could get smoked, and Wikipedia
could get smoked. I totally could see
that because if AI is just going to give
you the recommendations, you don't
necessarily need Yelp or Trip Adviser or
Wikipedia. That's interesting. That's
very interesting. AI search engines have
replaced about 10% of traditional search
so far. This is a Baron piece, by the
way. Google is pushing back by adding AI
powered summaries at the top. Uh, and
maybe that'll help or not because so far
the numbers keep going down. Uh, last
month, search referrals to the top US
travel and tourism sites tumbled 20%.
These are these charts are referrals to
to those industry websites. Uh, the
trend is clear. Search is drying up and
Google is no longer the clear-cut way to
drive audiences to websites. Business
Insider cut 21% of its staff citing
traffic drops outside of its control.
Reddit, social media site and source of
answers to many random questions gets
57% of its search, you know, referrals
from search, making deals with AI
critical.
Uh, that's interesting. Reddit could get
smoked by this. I I do see Reddit
results a lot for like random questions
in the Q in uh in Google. So I could see
that monthly US search traffic to
Schwab.com fell for the first time in at
least two years according to similar web
down 14%. A year ago, search referral
referrals to Schwab were up 179%.
Search to Netflix was down 23%. Although
how many people are actually searching
for Netflix on Google? Reddit has become
the battleground for the search's
future. stock is down 28% so far this
year as people worry about slowing user
growth to Reddit. I don't really like
Reddit. I like going on there and
trolling people in the real estate
section, but uh this is very interesting
and it kind of shows you that, you know,
Google as sort of a legacy operator
could have some headwinds that actually
might even in my opinion distract from
their Whimo business as they try not to
um essentially collapse or or see the
most the largest and most important
portion of their business collapse. So,
uh, cool piece by Barons, and I feel
like it kind of connects nicely to this,
uh, uh, Tesla Doomberg shilling. Anyway,
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right. Oh, interesting. I don't have the
AI mode here, but I have it on this
other computer on a on a Windows
computer. I actually have there's a
button up here on Google search where I
could turn on AI mode. Uh, and it's
basically just an opportunity to chat
with, you know, the Google AI or
whatever. But, and then of course you
get this AI overview. So, you could, you
know, have this conversation in the AI
overview. I could go into AI o AI mode
or whatever. I think one of the problems
though with these AI overviews is not
that it's not good. I like them. I think
the AI overviews are good for Google.
But it's that if people aren't going to
this box anymore because this box
instead is Perplexity or GPT or Grock,
uh well well then you know your moat has
basically been reduced to that of a
commodity and and that's not good for
Google. Why not advertise these things
that you told us here? I feel like
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how it goes. Congratulations, man. You
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People look up to you. Kevin Praath
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