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today is obviously Tesla earnings a day

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and I'd actually like to start with a

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mention of something very interesting

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about Tesla but a lot of people are

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putting up earnings estimates and we'll

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look at a few of these what I think is

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most fascinating though is actually

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positioning positioning is probably the

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most important as well so there's a

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piece here by Bank of America's

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Securities and it talks briefly about a

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Tesla positioning they start off by

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talking about is you know taking a

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bubble and you know how high will Tech

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basically go in the gist of their piece

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on big tack before we talk about Tesla

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is really just that yes the S P 500

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excluding those top seven companies in

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the S P 500 is valued at just 15 times

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earnings but time but if you factor in

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those top seven you know those top seven

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that are trading for 40 times earnings

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then the entire s p or you know

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valuation goes up to about 18 19. point

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is is that a bubble right are these

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Ultra techs a bubble and the argument by

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Bank of America Securities ends up that

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well it's really these these Mega Caps

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or Ultra caps at this point that are

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just deemed the safest to be in but not

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only the safest but they're deemed to be

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those with the most amount of cash and

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the most amount of profit potential so

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maybe this is more of a case of the rich

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get richer than it is a case of some

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kind of a bubble bursting now what is

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wild about that is actually the very

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last page of this take a look at this

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just apple and Tesla are underweight out

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of the seven so in other words These

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funds uh larger investment funds or

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whatever that have moved into these Mega

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cap stocks so heavily this year so far

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are mostly allocated or overweight to

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Microsoft Amazon Google Nvidia uh the

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the other voting cost shares of Google

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and Facebook but they're actually

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underweight apple and Tesla now that I

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think is very interesting because this

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could lead to floors under and this is

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my thesis but could lead to floors under

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pricing for apple and Tesla in other

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words weak earnings at Apple and Tesla

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could be seen as a short-term

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opportunity to get back to overweight in

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these two stocks to catch up to the

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Investments being made into the

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Microsoft Amazon Google Nvidia and

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Facebook

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that's a thesis that I have we're not

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necessarily always going to be able to

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say that all you know bad earnings is

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always going to get caught up with a

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with dip buying but it does seem to be

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that there's a lot of money on the

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sidelines whether it's from fund

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managers or individual retail looking

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for an opportunity to buy the dip

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usually Tesla earnings lead Tesla stock

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to go negative and I do think it's very

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interesting that on the morning of Tesla

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earnings you have Tesla actually trading

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up about point seven percent in

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pre-market trading especially since the

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usually Tesla goes negative uh after

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earnings so pay attention to that but

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this this underweight positioning uh by

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institutions of Tesla and apple could be

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a good Tailwind a for Tesla an apple I'm

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all honestly surprised that Apple was

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somewhat underweight as well relative to

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some of these others here but uh

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oh well and and it's also worth noting

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the number of funds not just the

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positioning of underweight versus

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overweight but also the actual

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positioning if you do own Apple uh or

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rather I should say not not relative to

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the uh being underweight overweight let

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me rephrase that

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uh somewhere still around 70 percent of

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funds do have exposure to Apple but it's

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a nominal exposure so that's what's

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worth noting is the level of exposure

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for Apple is is high like a lot of

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people have a little bit of Apple but

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it's underweight compared to even the S

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P 500 as you can see apple positioning

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is only sitting at about 0.6 whereas the

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S P 500 would put you at a substantially

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higher positioning uh and funds actually

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have a higher positioning to Microsoft

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Amazon Google Nvidia meta than they do

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to the S P 500 but only about somewhere

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with 32-ish 35-ish percent of funds

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actually have exposure to Tesla it's all

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alone over there in that corner wild now

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regarding some estimates I'd love to see

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uh the um you know Troy's estimates on

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Twitter I think he does a great job uh

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his estimates here versus consensus are

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that we're looking for an 80 cent uh

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non-gaap EPS I personally don't love

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using non-gaap let me just quickly

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remind you what non-gaap is non-gap is

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and every company is different with this

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so I'm painting with a big brush here

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but non-gap is basically a beautiful way

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to say Hey you know stock based comp is

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a non-cash expense so we're going to

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pretend like we didn't spend any stock

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based compensation money so if we say we

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spent 200 million dollars on stock base

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comp we're just going to come up with

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this new figure called non-gaap EPS that

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won't be associated with our stock based

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camp and evaluate based on that which I

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think clearly understates your

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compensation expenses this is why

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usually your Gap EPS is lower so to be

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exact the adjusted or non-gaap EPS for

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Tesla is expected to be

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80.9 percent to be perfect they Tesla

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has beat on that number five out of

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eight of the last earnings

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for EPS gaap we're looking for 71.1

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cents they've beaten on that number six

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out of eight times

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on Revenue Tesla has beat five out of

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eight times we're looking for 24.5

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billion and on net income they've beaten

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seven out of eight times which is good

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that you have this history of beating

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sort of on a margin POV and we're

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looking for

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2.87 billion so I would write those

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numbers down I also think it's

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interesting that the average movement

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for Tesla stock is 7.14 but the implied

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movement over the next 24 hours is only

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6.48 which is lower than what you would

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have expected

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so let's go back for a moment to uh

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Troy's calc so we got some uh more

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detail here on the Wall Street consensus

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his thinking is that wall Street's

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margin estimate is going to be 18.2 he

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thinks they're actually going to come in

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with a 17.3 I do think the big two risks

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for Tesla are not only are you getting

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this uh this margin Miss from Wall

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Street expectations because that

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unfortunately that a margin Miss is

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going to lead to Future write Downs of

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earnings not great uh we but that could

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be offset by what's said in the earnings

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call so it's always possible that you

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know the first minute you get some kind

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of large sell-off

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and then maybe that gets talked up again

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in the earnings call though and I don't

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know usually I'm not so you know knock

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on wood optimistic about uh uh post

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earnings but you know I I've never

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really found Tesla or trading earnings

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to be super beneficial since you know

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sometimes you end up getting to a

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three-week rally soon after you get

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earnings and then all of a sudden you

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miss out because you're like ah crap I

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forgot to buy back in trading earnings

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is really difficult so I'm I'm not I'm

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not selling uh so what else do we have

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we've got uh Nissan announce the test uh

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they're adopting the Tesla charging uh

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adapter as well you've got a little bit

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of news that Tesla is converting a movie

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theater I think it was in LA into some

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kind of delivery and Service Center Hub

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which is great because you know the more

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uh service centers we've got available

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the easier it is for new customers to

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get their problems dealt with personally

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I haven't had a lot of problems with

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Teslas lately but I will say when I

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first got my Tesla back in 2017 there

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were a lot of problems and having more

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service centers around is nice

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especially when you have the mobile

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service centers some areas just don't

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have mobile service availability so the

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more they can expand that service the

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more people can say nice and positive

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things about Tesla so overall look

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whatever happens today for Tesla

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earnings obviously it's going to be very

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closely watched I'll be covering it live

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so make sure you're there but this

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underweight right here by funds for

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Tesla could flip and this is where I

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actually like to go most optimistic uh

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and and I realize it's probably a little

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based but I want to put it this way I

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think that once Tesla I'm going to write

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this down because I I didn't want it to

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be forgotten once Tesla proves

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it can survive this recession which I

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know most of us who invest in Tesla are

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looking at saying what do you mean Kevin

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of course they're going to survive this

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recession yes

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we know that but once Tesla proves to

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the rest of these these underweight

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funds so I'm going to write this to the

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underweight funds that not only can It

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survive this recession but also

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still generate uh incredible above

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industry average margins and Beyond

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because really industry margins suck

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industry anyway right margins suck

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anyway though I like to say that that

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industry margins suck anyway I mean GM

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GM is decent except for their EV

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business they lose money on EVS they

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don't expect to make money on electric

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vehicles until like 2025. but for their

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legacy Biz uh they're somewhere around

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13 gross profit and uh you know the Ford

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is a little less than that uh but but

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still still decent excluding electric

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vehicles they don't expect to make money

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on electric vehicles until

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26 so something stupid like that but

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anywho uh once I believe that Tesla

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proves look we're gonna get through the

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hard time

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we're gonna get through the potential

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you know so we're gonna we're gonna

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survive the capital needs right this is

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uh stock uh this is basically a money

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raise

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uh and survive the margin or or I should

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say hit the margin trough hit margin

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trough which is hitting the floor right

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and then we start moving up again and

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move up again this is really when I

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think you're going to start getting

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those underweight funds actually moving

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into Tesla so a lot of people have been

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wondering like hey when would I really

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in Earnest be interested in you know not

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just like from a rebalance point of view

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but cutting Tesla and selling Tesla and

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moving into whether it's real estate or

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something else well it's really when

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funds get euphoric

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that's that's when trim time comes and

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we're nowhere close to that so I know

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the stock is obviously moved from you

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know 105 or whatever to 290s

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but really that just puts you back to

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where you were and like

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you know March of last year so you

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really haven't done anything if you look

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at it from a year over year point of

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view uh so so Euphoria wasn't there then

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it is in here now uh and in my opinion

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that actually gives you a flaw for bad

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news as much as there could be a little

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rubber band to the downside but it gives

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you a really optimistic path forward

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that's what my take uh now uh we'll see

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we'll see what has been happening uh

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Tesla should just acquire end face you

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know they they probably wouldn't do that

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mostly because they create their own

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inverters and they use string inverters

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which or a cheaper way of conducting uh

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solar installs

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uh well the micro inverter people say

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that so that's a little biased so uh but

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uh it's very unlikely that uh that you

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would see that when they've you know

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they acquired Solar City right so you're

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acquiring the string inverter uh

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Strat

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which is okay at what point is Tesla

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overpriced you know well that's going to

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depend on where that trough and margin

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is

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and where the trajectory is of where it

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ends up going so you know if Tesla caps

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out at a 20 margin you know maybe

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euphoric is 350 375. if Tesla goes back

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to its 30 margin Direction maybe u4 is

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more like five six hundred dollars who

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knows that could even be much higher

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than that uh so we'll have to see anyway

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some thoughts on Tesla so buckle up

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today but this underweight positioning

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something I haven't seen talked about

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and makes me very excited so we'll see

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because the more you get institutions

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transitioning the more you actually get

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well as opposed to all the bare pieces

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that get written about FSD and all that

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