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today is obviously Tesla earnings a day
and I'd actually like to start with a
mention of something very interesting
about Tesla but a lot of people are
putting up earnings estimates and we'll
look at a few of these what I think is
most fascinating though is actually
positioning positioning is probably the
most important as well so there's a
piece here by Bank of America's
Securities and it talks briefly about a
Tesla positioning they start off by
talking about is you know taking a
bubble and you know how high will Tech
basically go in the gist of their piece
on big tack before we talk about Tesla
is really just that yes the S P 500
excluding those top seven companies in
the S P 500 is valued at just 15 times
earnings but time but if you factor in
those top seven you know those top seven
that are trading for 40 times earnings
then the entire s p or you know
valuation goes up to about 18 19. point
is is that a bubble right are these
Ultra techs a bubble and the argument by
Bank of America Securities ends up that
well it's really these these Mega Caps
or Ultra caps at this point that are
just deemed the safest to be in but not
only the safest but they're deemed to be
those with the most amount of cash and
the most amount of profit potential so
maybe this is more of a case of the rich
get richer than it is a case of some
kind of a bubble bursting now what is
wild about that is actually the very
last page of this take a look at this
just apple and Tesla are underweight out
of the seven so in other words These
funds uh larger investment funds or
whatever that have moved into these Mega
cap stocks so heavily this year so far
are mostly allocated or overweight to
Microsoft Amazon Google Nvidia uh the
the other voting cost shares of Google
and Facebook but they're actually
underweight apple and Tesla now that I
think is very interesting because this
could lead to floors under and this is
my thesis but could lead to floors under
pricing for apple and Tesla in other
words weak earnings at Apple and Tesla
could be seen as a short-term
opportunity to get back to overweight in
these two stocks to catch up to the
Investments being made into the
Microsoft Amazon Google Nvidia and
that's a thesis that I have we're not
necessarily always going to be able to
say that all you know bad earnings is
always going to get caught up with a
with dip buying but it does seem to be
that there's a lot of money on the
sidelines whether it's from fund
managers or individual retail looking
for an opportunity to buy the dip
usually Tesla earnings lead Tesla stock
to go negative and I do think it's very
interesting that on the morning of Tesla
earnings you have Tesla actually trading
up about point seven percent in
pre-market trading especially since the
usually Tesla goes negative uh after
earnings so pay attention to that but
this this underweight positioning uh by
institutions of Tesla and apple could be
a good Tailwind a for Tesla an apple I'm
all honestly surprised that Apple was
somewhat underweight as well relative to
some of these others here but uh
oh well and and it's also worth noting
the number of funds not just the
positioning of underweight versus
overweight but also the actual
positioning if you do own Apple uh or
rather I should say not not relative to
the uh being underweight overweight let
me rephrase that
uh somewhere still around 70 percent of
funds do have exposure to Apple but it's
a nominal exposure so that's what's
worth noting is the level of exposure
for Apple is is high like a lot of
people have a little bit of Apple but
it's underweight compared to even the S
P 500 as you can see apple positioning
is only sitting at about 0.6 whereas the
S P 500 would put you at a substantially
higher positioning uh and funds actually
have a higher positioning to Microsoft
Amazon Google Nvidia meta than they do
to the S P 500 but only about somewhere
with 32-ish 35-ish percent of funds
actually have exposure to Tesla it's all
alone over there in that corner wild now
regarding some estimates I'd love to see
uh the um you know Troy's estimates on
Twitter I think he does a great job uh
his estimates here versus consensus are
that we're looking for an 80 cent uh
non-gaap EPS I personally don't love
using non-gaap let me just quickly
remind you what non-gaap is non-gap is
and every company is different with this
so I'm painting with a big brush here
but non-gap is basically a beautiful way
to say Hey you know stock based comp is
a non-cash expense so we're going to
pretend like we didn't spend any stock
based compensation money so if we say we
spent 200 million dollars on stock base
comp we're just going to come up with
this new figure called non-gaap EPS that
won't be associated with our stock based
camp and evaluate based on that which I
think clearly understates your
compensation expenses this is why
usually your Gap EPS is lower so to be
exact the adjusted or non-gaap EPS for
Tesla is expected to be
80.9 percent to be perfect they Tesla
has beat on that number five out of
eight of the last earnings
for EPS gaap we're looking for 71.1
cents they've beaten on that number six
out of eight times
on Revenue Tesla has beat five out of
eight times we're looking for 24.5
billion and on net income they've beaten
seven out of eight times which is good
that you have this history of beating
sort of on a margin POV and we're
looking for
2.87 billion so I would write those
numbers down I also think it's
interesting that the average movement
for Tesla stock is 7.14 but the implied
movement over the next 24 hours is only
6.48 which is lower than what you would
have expected
so let's go back for a moment to uh
Troy's calc so we got some uh more
detail here on the Wall Street consensus
his thinking is that wall Street's
margin estimate is going to be 18.2 he
thinks they're actually going to come in
with a 17.3 I do think the big two risks
for Tesla are not only are you getting
this uh this margin Miss from Wall
Street expectations because that
unfortunately that a margin Miss is
going to lead to Future write Downs of
earnings not great uh we but that could
be offset by what's said in the earnings
call so it's always possible that you
know the first minute you get some kind
of large sell-off
and then maybe that gets talked up again
in the earnings call though and I don't
know usually I'm not so you know knock
on wood optimistic about uh uh post
earnings but you know I I've never
really found Tesla or trading earnings
to be super beneficial since you know
sometimes you end up getting to a
three-week rally soon after you get
earnings and then all of a sudden you
miss out because you're like ah crap I
forgot to buy back in trading earnings
is really difficult so I'm I'm not I'm
not selling uh so what else do we have
we've got uh Nissan announce the test uh
they're adopting the Tesla charging uh
adapter as well you've got a little bit
of news that Tesla is converting a movie
theater I think it was in LA into some
kind of delivery and Service Center Hub
which is great because you know the more
uh service centers we've got available
the easier it is for new customers to
get their problems dealt with personally
I haven't had a lot of problems with
Teslas lately but I will say when I
first got my Tesla back in 2017 there
were a lot of problems and having more
service centers around is nice
especially when you have the mobile
service centers some areas just don't
have mobile service availability so the
more they can expand that service the
more people can say nice and positive
things about Tesla so overall look
whatever happens today for Tesla
earnings obviously it's going to be very
closely watched I'll be covering it live
so make sure you're there but this
underweight right here by funds for
Tesla could flip and this is where I
actually like to go most optimistic uh
and and I realize it's probably a little
based but I want to put it this way I
think that once Tesla I'm going to write
this down because I I didn't want it to
be forgotten once Tesla proves
it can survive this recession which I
know most of us who invest in Tesla are
looking at saying what do you mean Kevin
of course they're going to survive this
recession yes
we know that but once Tesla proves to
the rest of these these underweight
funds so I'm going to write this to the
underweight funds that not only can It
survive this recession but also
still generate uh incredible above
industry average margins and Beyond
because really industry margins suck
industry anyway right margins suck
anyway though I like to say that that
industry margins suck anyway I mean GM
GM is decent except for their EV
business they lose money on EVS they
don't expect to make money on electric
vehicles until like 2025. but for their
legacy Biz uh they're somewhere around
13 gross profit and uh you know the Ford
is a little less than that uh but but
still still decent excluding electric
vehicles they don't expect to make money
on electric vehicles until
26 so something stupid like that but
anywho uh once I believe that Tesla
proves look we're gonna get through the
hard time
we're gonna get through the potential
you know so we're gonna we're gonna
survive the capital needs right this is
uh stock uh this is basically a money
raise
uh and survive the margin or or I should
say hit the margin trough hit margin
trough which is hitting the floor right
and then we start moving up again and
move up again this is really when I
think you're going to start getting
those underweight funds actually moving
into Tesla so a lot of people have been
wondering like hey when would I really
in Earnest be interested in you know not
just like from a rebalance point of view
but cutting Tesla and selling Tesla and
moving into whether it's real estate or
something else well it's really when
funds get euphoric
that's that's when trim time comes and
we're nowhere close to that so I know
the stock is obviously moved from you
know 105 or whatever to 290s
but really that just puts you back to
where you were and like
you know March of last year so you
really haven't done anything if you look
at it from a year over year point of
view uh so so Euphoria wasn't there then
it is in here now uh and in my opinion
that actually gives you a flaw for bad
news as much as there could be a little
rubber band to the downside but it gives
you a really optimistic path forward
that's what my take uh now uh we'll see
we'll see what has been happening uh
Tesla should just acquire end face you
know they they probably wouldn't do that
mostly because they create their own
inverters and they use string inverters
which or a cheaper way of conducting uh
solar installs
uh well the micro inverter people say
that so that's a little biased so uh but
uh it's very unlikely that uh that you
would see that when they've you know
they acquired Solar City right so you're
acquiring the string inverter uh
Strat
which is okay at what point is Tesla
overpriced you know well that's going to
depend on where that trough and margin
is
and where the trajectory is of where it
ends up going so you know if Tesla caps
out at a 20 margin you know maybe
euphoric is 350 375. if Tesla goes back
to its 30 margin Direction maybe u4 is
more like five six hundred dollars who
knows that could even be much higher
than that uh so we'll have to see anyway
some thoughts on Tesla so buckle up
today but this underweight positioning
something I haven't seen talked about
and makes me very excited so we'll see
because the more you get institutions
transitioning the more you actually get
uh a positive analyst pieces written as
well as opposed to all the bare pieces
that get written about FSD and all that
nonsense but you really have to drive
FST to understand it somebody has
negative comments about FSD and they
haven't actually tried it
probably uh not not the best uh resource
to consider uh opinions from anywho as
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