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All right, Kevin Hasset on CNBC telling

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us the labor market is going into nap

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time. I haven't watched it yet, but the

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headline is that it's going into a quiet

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time. And I'm like, what is this?

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Preschool? We going to nappy doodle

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time? Is this is this really what we

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want? The director of the NEC saying

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right before the jobs reports come out.

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Is this why we're not going to get the

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October report? We know the September

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report is coming out on Thursday. We

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know we got ADP coming out tomorrow

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morning for the weekly moving average,

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but where's the announcement about when

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we're going to get the October report? I

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don't know. Oh, and here's Sarah. Oh,

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but anyway, we got to watch this video.

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Let's see what it is.

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>> National Economic Council director uh

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Kevin Hasset. Good morning, Kevin. How

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are you?

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>> You guys had a great uh marriage session

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there. Marriage counseling session. I

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think there's hope for you two.

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>> There there's hope. We got maybe it we

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cover the cover the

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>> shill shill shill anything that distract

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from jobs.

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>> Uh maybe the truth is somewhere uh in in

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the middle. Uh Kevin and I I have been

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fairly optimistic when people come on

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about uh the US economy. I can find a

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lot of positive things. Um why do you

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think affordability is such a buzzword

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uh right now? Now, I mean, we we lived

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through 9% inflation and I think Biden

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years they it averaged over 5%.

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>> For those four years,

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>> we're at the highest levels that we've

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seen in recently at 3%. Why all of a

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sudden is it uh I don't know, is it

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Trump's fault?

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>> Right. Well, I mean, for sure people

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still are trying to dig out from the big

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hole that was dug by uh the previous

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administration's policies. So, if you

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figure the typical mortgage uh payment

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uh monthly mortgage payment about

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doubled, uh if you look at a typical bag

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of groceries, the monthly bag of

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groceries cost about $400 when President

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Trump was uh leaving.

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>> I I hate this stuff, by the way, because

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so much of what these politicians talk

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about just ignores the reality that both

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Trump and Biden contributed to the

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original stimulative stimulative COVID

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inflation. both of them

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>> office last time and about $512.

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What the Democrats are doing is they're

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saying that this uh runaway uh spending

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that we gave you guys uh that created

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runaway inflation is 100% your fault uh

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because you haven't fixed blah blah blah

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blah. All right, let's let's actually

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get to some like meat here, which

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hopefully comes when we get a question

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asked

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>> because real

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average weekly wages fell during during

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the Biden years because of the

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inflation.

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>> That's right.

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>> Right. So, it fell. However, the

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president uh is constantly saying prices

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have come down. Now, inflation is still

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3%. It's still too high. Now, oil

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prices, energy prices, there are certain

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>> He's countering the White House's idea

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that, oh, prices are coming down. That's

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because Donald Trump is looking at, you

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know, these miscellaneous

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cherrypicked data points where like, oh,

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well, egg prices have come down. Yeah,

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we had to callull a crapload of

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chickens, which led to a shortage in

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eggs. Guess what happens when there's a

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shortage? The price goes up and then it

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comes down. And Trump's like, see, I'm

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responsible for the price coming down.

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It's such nonsense. Prices are still

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going up and that's what's frustrating

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people. This, you know, we were in the

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alpha report this morning. We're looking

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at Walmart. My by the way, I almost

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vomited when I saw what Walmart did in

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other income to make their EPS come up.

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That's the kind of stuff we talk about

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in the alpha report. Remember, you can

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join using coupon code NVDA uh before

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Wednesday. But what what I saw at

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Walmart was that above inflation,

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they're barely growing. They're growing

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like 1 and a.5% above inflation. Now, in

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fairness, they're able to pass on the

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inflation to their customers, and they

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are showing increasing sales, whereas

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Target is showing decreasing sales. So,

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you got to give Walmart credit. And they

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also just bought back like $6 billion

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worth of stock in 6 months. I mean,

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they're buying back like a billion

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dollars of stock per freaking month.

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They got so much freaking money. It's

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amazing. Anyway,

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>> uh things where they have come down, but

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when you keep saying prices are falling,

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that's not true. Uh, THANK YOU. CALL HIM

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OUT. Now watch. Kevin Hasset ends up

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shilling. Well, you know, the price of

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eggs has come down. Man, he'll look such

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a clown. You can't do that. Don't do

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that, Hass.

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Because inflation is still it's the 3%

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is on top of all the inflation we had

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during the Biden years. So, we got all

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that inflation plus an additional 3%.

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And we I think you should admit that

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>> a more a more precise way to say it

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though, Joe, is that purchasing power

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has gone up. So real wages, that's W

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divided by P for our technical people in

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the audience.

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>> Oh my gosh. Let's just let's just def

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redefine

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what's going on. What he's really doing

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with real wages, by the way, and we

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could look at this, but if real wages

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did decline because when inflation was

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9%, of course, wages weren't catching up

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to that, right? So he's comparing to

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that and saying, okay, yeah, may maybe

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inflation is still high, but but hey,

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man, you know, real earnings are going

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up now. uh and he's referring to this

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trend uh that occurred after uh really

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it started you know we bottomed out here

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in about the second quarter of 2022 and

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since then we've had a trend of real

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wages going up. It's hard for I feel

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like Trump to take credit for that

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because this real wage uptrend is really

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just a reversal of the downtrend

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following all this insane inflation that

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we had that really peaked out in 22. So

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of course inflation's no longer 9%. It's

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like 3% now. So, of course, real wages

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look like they're going up. I mean,

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really, if you want, you could go to

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this I like this website for this

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purpose, but you could go ahead and

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throw in here CPI. So, let's throw in uh

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inflation,

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all items, and then let's go ahead add

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that data series, but we're going to

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have to do a percent change from a year

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ago. And let's just we'll go to like

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semiannual or whatever. I'd like to

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normalize these two. this uh uh the top

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line and let's go to line number one

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here. Let's go with percent change from

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a year ago. So if you look in here

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postco we zoom in a little bit. There

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you go. This is what I wanted to show

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you. This is exactly what I was verbally

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describing. We just basically built a

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chart to show you this. When inflation

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is high, when the green line is high, of

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course the blue line's going to go down.

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And when the green line starts coming

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down, of course they start converging.

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Duh. That's historically what has always

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happened. So Kevin Hasset, this is not

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happening because of you. It's happening

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in spite of you. Gone up by about $1,200

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this year. So, the way to think about it

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is that we've dug a $3,000 hole because

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of Biden policies and we've, you know,

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gained $1,200 on the way out already,

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which should give you a great deal of

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hope for the future that the wage

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increases that we're seeing will

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continue. And, uh, even if inflation

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stays positive, make it so that people

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feel way better when they go to the

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grocery store and to buy a car. You

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know, we've we've reduced the cost of

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buying a car with the deductibility of

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interest. I mean, there's a million

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things that we're doing to fix this

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problem, but it's just kind of

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astonishing to me that the the cost

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problem is somehow being uh blamed on

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us. Now, think about if you had I mean,

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part of the cost problem, mind you, or

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tariffs. The the short-term impact of

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tariffs will increase the cost uh of

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goods and services. This is normal,

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mostly goods, but it can trickle into

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services. This this idea that oh well

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now we're giving you a tax credit on

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your interest for a car loan just

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motivates Americans to get into debt.

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This is the opposite of what you should

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be doing. In addition to this, you know,

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wouldn't it be nice if they actually

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reduced car prices? You know how to

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actually reduce car prices?

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Let the Chinese sell their cars here.

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Let the free market win. You want a free

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and fair market? Open the doors to

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Chinese cars. Let our American

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manufacturers like Ford and GM compete

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against the Chinese. And guess what's

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going to happen? Ford and GM are either

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going to have to dramatically cut their

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prices and figure out how to get

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dramatically more efficient in their

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factories or they're going to go

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bankrupt because cars are going to get

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so damn cheap. So how about instead of

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hey Americans, why don't you finance a

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$50,000 average price car now and you

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know you could write off the interest

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when the interest is, you know, mega

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high right now. I mean, I there some of

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the car dealers are doing introductory

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financing, you know, like 1% or

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whatever, but I mean, let's be real,

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you're just paying more for the car when

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you get that. How about instead of

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encouraging people to get into debt and

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then you're not writing off that much

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interest anyway if the interest rate is

8:56

1%, right? Like the irony. If you take

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the 0% introductory offer, how much of

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the tax write off are you going? If you

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take market interest rates, you're

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paying through the nose for debt at the

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worst time to do it. Worst time to take

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on debt right now. And you're paying for

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inflated car values. You want cheaper

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cars, let the Chinese bring their cars

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here. Oh, no, no, no. We're tariffing

9:18

the Chinese. Well, exactly. You are

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robbing the opportunity of the American

9:24

consumer to have a cheaper car. Now,

9:27

Biden won't do it either. This is not

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bagging on Republicans. Democrats don't

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want Chinese cars either because that's

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anti-American. But it's 100% capitalism.

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You will have massive deflation in cars

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if you let the Chinese actually sell

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their cars here. And it would be a win

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for every single American. Every single

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American would win.

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>> Especially with the Obamacare thing. So

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Obamacare is 100% Democratic.

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>> If somebody here goes, Kevin, what about

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dumping? DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT

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dumping is?

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Listen, this idea of dumping is comes

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from companies who overmanufacture

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products because they want a competitive

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advantage and they're like, "We have all

10:12

this product. Let's just sell it. Sell

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it. Even if we sell it for a loss, what

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you do is when you sell a product for a

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loss, eventually those manufacturers go

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out of business and eventually you find

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an equilibrium. But the idea is that

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they can manufacture so much cheaper

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than us. Who wins when a manufacturer

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dumps on us? I mean, think about it. If

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I was a solar panel company in America,

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I'd be like, "Please dump all over me.

10:38

Dump on me more. Please, please dump on

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me because it makes it cheaper for me to

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do things." That's capitalism. Now, if

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that means that because they're selling

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at a loss, they go bankrupt. That's on

10:53

them. Then another Chinese company will

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take over and sell panels at a slight

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margin, but the margins will be tiny.

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You can't make money selling solar

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panels. You know, you make money selling

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like batteries and inverters, but

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there's only a limited amount of time

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for that. So, you know, this this idea

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that as a consumer, you should be

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disappointed about dumping is insane. If

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you are buying stuff, you should be

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like, "Please dump on me." The only

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people who are pissed are people who

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can't compete for the long term. in

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manufacturing because if somebody's

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dumping, they will drive themselves out

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of business if they're selling at a

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loss. And if they're selling for a low

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margin, let them let them sell for a low

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margin. It's great for people buying

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policy. It's always been 100% democratic

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policy. What they did is they expanded

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the subsidies during CO and then all

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those subsidies basically went

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>> Why would you produce those cars in

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America? Fear Furd Furd 10. horrible

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tank. I would agree if they produce

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those cars in America. How the hell are

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you gonna manufacture cars in America

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when you have to pay people $30 an hour

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plus workers comp? So now you got $40 an

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hour plus payroll taxes plus paid time

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off plus holiday benefits plus all the

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that it takes to hire somebody

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in America. You know how hard the

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American government has made it to

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actually hire American workers? It's so

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damn expensive. The only person who

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says, "Yeah, go manufacture cars with

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American labor." are the people who have

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never hired an employee in their life.

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They have never run a payroll statement.

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And they're like, "Holy it's

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expensive to do stuff in America." Bro,

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you got people in China who are

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literally walking for $800 a month.

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And that's so they can get by. And you

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know how you actually help those people

12:45

get ahead? By buying their stuff. As

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soon as you stop buying their stuff,

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they make even less. Welcome to

12:53

capitalism, dude. But what you want to

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pay $800, bro? You're paying $800 a day

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to an American factory worker. Maybe

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every two days, you pay $800 a month in

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China. And who benefits? Well, I'll tell

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you who benefits. The consumer in

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America benefits. And that worker

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working for $800 a month benefits

13:13

because their wages can actually start

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going up. Now, who loses is the factory

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worker making $40 an hour in America,

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but you could go make that money

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somewhere else.

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There aren't that many factory workers

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in America. You're talking about a UAW

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with 400,000 workers. You know how many

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households drive cars in America? It's

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like 110 million. We've got 110 million

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households in America who drive cars and

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benefit from cheaper cars. And if you're

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shilling for 3 or 400,000 auto workers,

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what you should be doing is

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incentivizing them to get jobs in future

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service industries in America. AI,

13:49

robotics, whatever. Train them. Give

13:51

them money. Give them stimulus. Help

13:53

them. But let 110 million American

13:56

families have cheaper damn cars. Take

13:58

care of the people who get hurt in the

14:00

transition. And let capitalism do its

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job. Then you'll have cheaper uh cheaper

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cars. You'll have better consumerism.

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You you'll have you'll have a stronger

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economy across the board. It's insane.

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It's insane. Somebody says, "I'm okay

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with Sydney Sweeney dumping on me, too."

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Dude, I went to American Eagle to try to

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take a selfie with a Sydney Sweeney

14:19

poster. Not a single one. And I'm like,

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what the hell is this? What the hell is

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this? There's not a single Sweeney

14:26

poster in American Eagle. I was so

14:28

disappointed. So disappointed. It's just

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terrible. Dude, you keep skipping the

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part where they terrify. Bro, shut up.

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This is the dumbest argument. It pisses

14:38

me off being like, "Oh, but Kevin, they

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tariff us." Dude, trade weighted tariffs

14:47

against the United States were 1.5%.

14:52

The US has trade weighted tariffs on

14:55

other countries to the tune of 18%

14:58

before loopholes and 12% after loopholes

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which means we have literally 8 to 14xed

15:07

the tariffs that other countries are

15:09

putting on us. this idea that oh but

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yeah do it dude you don't actually look

15:14

at the data if you believe that you've

15:16

lost your mind if you don't actually

15:19

look at the data but Kevin Canada has

15:22

150% tariffs on our apples and how many

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of those 150% tariffs do you think are

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paid zero zero dollars at 150% have ever

15:32

been paid why it's just an extreme quota

15:36

and then of course you know Trump likes

15:38

to cherrypick this extreme quota that

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never gets paid because it's popular to

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his base of people who don't actually

15:46

have any ounce of critical thought.

15:51

>> Right into the pockets of insurance

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companies and uh Obamacare insurance

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policies have doubled.

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>> Somebody's like, "How much did you

15:58

pocket for this?" I wish the CCP would

16:00

pay me money. Please sponsor me, CCP.

16:03

I'm not sponsored by any country. I I go

16:05

make I go make a video about Russia and

16:07

Ukraine and people are like, "How much

16:08

did Zilinski pay you, Kevin?" I go make

16:10

a video about Israel and Iran. How how

16:12

much did Israel pay you, Kevin? It's

16:14

always funny like I super transparent

16:16

with I make my money. You know where we

16:18

make lots of money? The Meet Kevin Alpha

16:19

Report because people love it. They love

16:21

the perspective because they absorb the

16:23

perspective. They're like, "Kevin,

16:24

Kevin, dump perspective on me. Please

16:27

dump it all on me." [laughter]

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in price relative to normal policies.

16:33

And so the fastest inflation in the

16:35

economy is these big government

16:36

subsidies thrown at Obamacare insurance.

16:39

Think about it. It's kind of like if you

16:40

give lots of uh student loans, then the

16:42

tuition goes up. It's that effect. And

16:45

so,

16:45

>> bro, yes. And you literally just talked

16:49

about incentivizing people taking car

16:51

debt

16:52

and wow. Yeah. Then tuition goes up. The

16:55

same's GOING TO HAPPEN WITH CAR PRICES,

16:56

YOU YOU'RE TALKING out of both

16:58

sides of your damn mouth, Kevin Hasset.

17:00

You're pissing me off. You're literally,

17:02

oh, if you incentivize student loans,

17:04

student loan, like the cost of how

17:07

schooling is going to go up. Well,

17:09

you're literally just 30 seconds ago

17:11

talking about how you're incentivizing

17:12

people taking out car debt. Are you

17:14

crazy?

17:16

Now they're blaming President Trump for

17:18

Obamacare as well. They should have

17:19

fixed Obamacare in the first place. And

17:21

President Trump had a plan in the big

17:23

beautiful bill uh to give people some

17:25

subsidies, but the Democrats didn't like

17:26

it because the subsidies weren't going

17:28

to their campaign contributors, the

17:30

insurance companies.

17:32

Bro, where where was the juice of the

17:35

article? Maybe I missed it cuz I was too

17:37

busy screaming at this AI

17:39

could be causing quiet time in labor

17:41

market. Maybe he slipped it in there.

17:43

But what does he say? What does he say

17:45

here? firms are finding that AI is

17:48

making their workers so productive that

17:50

they don't necessarily have to hire new

17:52

kids out of college. I don't believe

17:53

this. This is not consistent with the

17:56

data that we are seeing. The data we are

17:58

seeing suggests I mean McKenzie

18:00

literally just did a report on this uh

18:03

and I broke it down too but McKenzie had

18:05

a whole piece where they're like yeah a

18:07

lot of firms are working on implementing

18:10

artificial intelligence and like 80% of

18:13

workers at a lot of these companies use

18:16

artificial intelligence for at least one

18:18

purpose. uh but they're not finding that

18:22

it's directly correlated with this

18:25

sudden or like somehow massive surge of

18:29

productivity. They're not seeing that

18:31

correlation. We're not actually seeing

18:33

the outcomes yet. Now, will we hopefully

18:37

think Kevin Hasset has to say this

18:39

because it's like what they're really

18:41

doing is they're rebranding joblessness.

18:44

They're really trying to say, "Hey guys,

18:46

uh yeah, uh the reason you're seeing

18:48

this pain in jobs is actually because

18:51

everybody's so efficient and the economy

18:53

is booming so well. The joblessness, I

18:56

mean, think about the manipulation here.

18:57

They're basically telling you guys,

18:59

guys, joblessness. Oh, people are losing

19:02

jobs. Oh, that's actually because the

19:04

economy is doing so well. EVERYTHING'S

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DOING SO WELL. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE are

19:09

losing jobs. What are you smoking, K?"

19:12

This is why I call this guy the greatest

19:14

shill, man. Full I mean, look,

19:18

McKenzie,

19:19

2025, November 5th. Okay, almost all

19:24

survey respondents say their

19:25

organizations are using AI, but most are

19:28

still in the early stages of scaling and

19:31

capturing value. And so if you actually

19:33

read this report, you're like, "Hey, you

19:35

know, we're we're using it, but we're

19:39

not really seeing any impact on EBIT."

19:43

39% report an EBIT impact. 64% say,

19:47

"Hey, maybe this is helping us with

19:49

innovation." But this means the vast

19:51

majority see no impact to EBIT. And this

19:54

is also some of this I feel like is

19:55

branding. You know, companies want to

19:57

justify why they're spending so much

19:59

more money on a software, artificial

20:02

intelligence software, but if you

20:03

actually go through the documents and or

20:07

like the information here, people are

20:09

like, "Yeah, you know, we're using it.

20:11

We're touching on it, but we're we don't

20:13

really know like how this is actually

20:15

helping us or transforming the

20:17

business." Read the whole report. It's

20:18

uh what is it? Just type in McKenzie,

20:20

the state of AI 2025. That was my

20:23

takeaway when I read it. Uh but anyway,

20:25

AI uh and then of course you're seeing

20:27

sort of that like slowdown in GPT

20:29

adoption already, right? That user

20:32

growth for GPT slowing down somewhat of

20:34

a of of an early potential red flag. But

20:37

anyway, what do we have here? Uh we have

20:40

uh artificial intelligence may actually

20:41

be increasing worker productivity. This

20:43

is the the the go-to thesis, but that

20:46

that could take 10 years, you know, it

20:48

could take 10 years for you to actually

20:51

see this productivity show up. That's

20:52

probably my biggest fear is that you

20:55

have layoffs because companies feel like

20:58

they could do more with AI but their

21:00

revenues aren't necessarily going up. So

21:02

then you get layoffs and then you have

21:04

this like you know 4 to 10year gap where

21:08

people are like oh we could actually

21:09

hire for these AI roles like that that

21:12

halfpipe so to speak is is very

21:14

dangerous because that bottom portion

21:16

will really suck because in that bottom

21:18

portion the Fed could be printing money

21:20

and you won't actually end up getting

21:21

anything out of it. GDP rose at the

21:23

strongest pace in the second quarter of

21:25

2025.

21:26

Well in fairness that's also because it

21:29

tanked in Q1. So you had this sort of

21:32

like Q2 reversal of Q1's drops dropped

21:35

because of the tariff insanity. So to

21:37

cite Q2 GDP is also I'm sorry,

21:41

but it's it's just shilling the Trump

21:43

administration and it it's just wrong.

21:45

Uh but okay, because there's so much

21:48

output growth and income growth. That's

21:50

the kind of thing that a free market

21:52

will work out relatively quickly as you

21:55

know. Uh and we find new ways to find to

21:58

spend money. Uh-huh. Okay. Pure pure

22:00

shilling. Okay. Uh David Saxs the AI in

22:04

cryptozar said earlier there will be no

22:06

bailout for AI after uh the CFO asked

22:09

for bailouts basically you know put the

22:11

hot air balloon up. Hasset's comments

22:13

also came as Trump and allies have tried

22:15

to refocus their message on

22:16

affordability. Uh you've got Hasset

22:19

saying grocery prices uh have uh not

22:22

come down during Trump's second term

22:24

despite the president's claims

22:25

otherwise. people are still trying to

22:27

dig out from the big hole that was dug,

22:30

right? Okay. So, I don't know where this

22:32

quote comes from that they have over

22:34

here about this quiet time, but uh

22:36

apparently they have this quote here

22:38

somewhere. Now, it it's interesting

22:40

because if you reconcile it with with

22:42

this, you know, this is really your big

22:44

black swan right now that's becoming

22:46

more and more clear every day. We hope

22:49

that this doesn't actually boil over

22:52

into a real crisis. But there are real

22:54

risks here that what we're seeing in

22:58

private credit ends up boiling over. Uh

23:01

and so Jeffrey Gunlock, he says load up

23:03

on cash. Stay away from private credit.

23:05

Assets are overpriced. Investors are

23:08

incredibly speculative. This is where we

23:10

pointed out like you've got this Cyber

23:12

Mike guy who's saying, "Oh my gosh, the

23:14

robo taxi math is wild. We could do robo

23:17

taxis at a dollar a mile at 80% margins.

23:20

And I'm like, you know, this is why you

23:22

can't buy Tesla at a good price because

23:25

people are shilling these insane

23:27

numbers. Even Kathy Woods at like 50

23:29

cents a mile or and I I think it's even

23:32

way less way lower than that how much

23:34

you're going to actually be able to earn

23:35

per mile because you you just saturate

23:37

the market with robo taxes. It's going

23:38

to be very difficult to maintain these

23:40

these high prices. Uh, I mean there's a

23:43

reason I feel like why Tesla is

23:44

massively trying to undercut the pricing

23:46

market right now. That's because they're

23:48

trying to lost lead to to, you know,

23:51

drive as much demand as they can, which

23:53

is fine. It's a reasonable strategy as

23:54

you're trying to enter the market. I

23:56

mean, there's really no difference

23:57

between like this whole like dumping

23:59

idea and Tesla dumping the value of robo

24:02

taxi ride prices. They're trying to gain

24:04

market share, right? Who benefits? The

24:07

writer, the consumer benefits. So, you

24:10

got the same people that are like, "Oh,

24:11

we should be anti-China dumping cuz

24:14

you're going to hurt our manufacturing

24:16

base." Those same people are like, "I

24:18

love that Tesla charges below market

24:20

rates for Uber rides, you know, robo

24:23

taxi rides." It's like, it's just

24:24

another form of dumping. Just it doesn't

24:27

maybe align with exactly what they want

24:28

for their portfolio. But I think

24:30

Gonlock's got a point here. This, you

24:32

know, overpriced asset concern, uh,

24:35

nosebleleed valuations, he warns about.

24:37

He recommends a 20% cash position to

24:40

hedge against a market implosion. Uh

24:43

probably not bad. I mean like I Buffett

24:45

famously puts it that cash is like the

24:48

best call option that you could ever ask

24:50

for because it's a call option on every

24:52

asset class with no expiration.

24:55

The health of the US equity market is

24:58

among the least healthy in my career.

25:00

The market is incredibly speculative and

25:02

speculative markets always go to

25:04

insanely high levels. It happens every

25:05

time. which I remember when I read this

25:07

the first time I'm like that sounds

25:09

bullish. [laughter]

25:10

We still have another leg boys. Uh but

25:13

anyway, he talks about garbage lending

25:14

references how the same thing happened

25:17

in the subprime crisis. I mean it's

25:20

fair. This is always what happens is you

25:22

end up getting uh people who package

25:24

together insane uh products that that

25:28

are trash products. They slice them up

25:30

and they slap a AAA rated on it. Uh here

25:32

Gunlock even says that Gunlock drew

25:36

parallels to inflated AAA ratings of

25:38

subprime mortgages, right? I mean you

25:40

have to understand if you are a ratings

25:42

business, right? If you're in the market

25:45

of selling ratings,

25:47

if somebody calls you uh and says, uh,

25:52

hey, uh, I need a rating for my bundle

25:55

of trash. Will you please rate my bundle

25:58

of trash? I I I want to sell it. If you

26:01

say, "Yeah, we'll rate it, but you know,

26:03

we're going to we're going to give it a

26:04

real rating here." Versus some other guy

26:06

who's like, "Hey, man. Yeah, we we'll

26:08

get you a good rating. Just sign up with

26:10

us." You know, you're always going to

26:11

end up getting the rating going to the

26:12

person who's basically on the phone

26:14

promising you that they're going to

26:15

bring you in at a AAA rating. So, the

26:17

ratings are always going to be bull

26:18

crap. This is why what we saw with

26:20

Renovo was so shocking where like the

26:22

loans were worth a hundred cents on the

26:24

dollar and then all of a sudden they

26:25

were deemed to be worthless. That's when

26:28

Renova went bankrupt, which I want to go

26:30

through this, but this is, you know, the

26:32

New York Times basically did a whole

26:33

piece on how uh, you know, all of these

26:36

employees, about 1,500 employees

26:38

abruptly got terminated. They're not

26:40

getting their money back for money they

26:42

spent on gas. They're getting screwed

26:43

because private equity came in and and

26:45

destroyed these people's ability to get

26:48

a check. Now, you got 1500 unemployed

26:50

people. We got people without uh you

26:52

know with halffinish projects and all

26:55

these corporations that were sold into a

26:57

rollup a private equity rollup uh yeah

27:00

here rolled up to uh uh you know led by

27:03

BlackRock and they just go bankrupt it

27:05

because that's always how it works. It's

27:07

the Wall Street greed that just ends up

27:09

bankrupting uh uh you know good business

27:14

unfortunately because you got to squeeze

27:16

these crazy uh profits out of uh you

27:20

know AAA rated bull crap. It's scary.

27:23

And so the question I think for Gunlock

27:25

is just how deep does it go? [music] And

27:27

I don't think we can listen to Hasset at

27:29

all because I think he's just frankly

27:32

the greatest shill of the

27:34

administration. He does a great job. you

27:36

know, he's basically like the Carolyn

27:37

Levit of economics. It's insane. Uh it's

27:42

minister of propaganda, but for the

27:44

economic side. Uh so, you know, I I

27:47

don't trust it as far as I could throw

27:49

them. And that's not going to be very

27:50

far.

27:51

>> Why not advertise [music] these things

27:52

that you told us here? I feel like

27:54

nobody else knows about this.

27:55

>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and

27:57

see how it goes.

27:57

>> Congratulations, [music] man. You have

27:58

done so much. People love you. People

28:00

look up to you.

28:01

>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst

28:03

and [music] YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always

28:04

great to get your

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