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gotta talk of bears bear peace straight

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from TS Lombard on a potential profit

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collapse or is there uh or will we just

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get more weight Cuts let's find out all

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right let's see the best one can get out

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of the latest GDP numbers are indicators

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from last week are indications for the

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quarter ahead and the upturn in

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non-financial profit so outside Banks

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right profits outside Banks there is no

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ongoing profit squeeze to finally

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contract growth in Q3 slowing yes but

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contraction no okay fine profits lead

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wages and hiring And precede Capital

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spending so in English profits first

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then you hire then you invest

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all this ties together to determine

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Trend inflation Real gross domestic

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income has been falling despite Rising

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GDP because of profits as corporate

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profits can go up without necessarily

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Rising incomes yet

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with this quarter's turnaround gross

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domestic income Rose half of a percent

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in Q2 after declining 3.3 percent in Q4

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and 1.8 percent in q1 GD expect GDI to

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be adjusted upward in September Bureau

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of economic analysis has reset its

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treatment of net interest

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as much of the income should be more

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reliable in terms of an indicator of the

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economy GDI is what typically ends up

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taking on the bulk of the adjustment

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okay great so what does all of this

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actually mean and what does it matter

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well here's this pretty neat chart and

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it basically shows you this pretty

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strong correlation between hiring and

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margins as margins go up you tend to get

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more hiring and as you get more hiring

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the goal is hopefully margins continue

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to go up and once margins Begin to Fall

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hiring Falls and there could be a little

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bit of a mismatch lead and lag in this

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depending on when some of these things

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are reported but intuitively this makes

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sense companies make less money they uh

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on on gross profit they end up hiring

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less

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great so employment growth excluding

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White Collar about to reverse now I

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thought this was a very interesting

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title because it really suggests that

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look we have had this nearly White

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Collar recession here right blue being

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white collar here black being blue color

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which is kind of ironic you think they

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would have used blue for blue color but

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anyway

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you can see that blue collar employment

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has been very very strong and this is

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one of the reasons some have actually

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called this recession or whatever we're

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in a rich session in other words oh the

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wealthier Richer people are getting

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screwed more they're able to buy less

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Teslas they're able to buy less infase

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solar panels and they're basically

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getting screwed because you know these

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finance jobs are getting laid off

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Goldman Sachs is doing another round of

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layoffs the banking crisis led to

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layoffs what's fascinating though is

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this potential that we might be at an

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inflection point we might have hit a

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bottom in the white collar Rich session

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so to speak this could by the way

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correlate although we did have recent

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news with the Tesla Model 3 Highland

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release it could potentially correlate

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with an increase that we're seeing in

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search trends for buy Tesla I'm not a

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big fan of just searching for models uh

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when you look at Google Trends and I

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don't mean like women models I'm I'm

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talking about like Tesla Model three

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search results I'm a big fan of just

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searching things like buy Tesla or lease

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Tesla or cost to buy Tesla and we are

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seeing an indication as we talked about

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earlier that we're trending back up

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above that 50 percent uh relative

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strength level we usually don't stay

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above that for very long but the longer

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we can stay above or near 50 the better

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it ultimately is for Tesla sales so

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really important and it is possible

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that if you end up getting a recovery in

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White Collar employment you could end up

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sooner rather than later ending up

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seeing these companies that that

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originally you know I I personally

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thought as well like you know oh okay

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this was you know if we're gonna have an

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inflation recession it was just going to

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be it was solely going to be the poor

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folks that ended up getting hurt and

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what ended up happening was it was yes

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poorer folks got hurt by inflation that

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was true but the people who were really

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getting layoffs and a lack of pay raises

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were the finance folks or the white

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collar people the office workers the HR

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workers AI hit that sector as well as

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opposed to the blue collar and so that

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ends up hating stocks like and Tesla and

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otherwise right even honestly going down

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to PC demand office demand office

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equipment demand office furniture demand

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uh Home Furniture demand Restoration

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Hardware and you know all this sort of

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stuff

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profit margins were never going to stay

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at 2021-22 levels obviously they they

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reflected a transitory peak in demand

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and pricing power this is very true the

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inevitable deceleration slows wage

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growth and hiring that's true and that's

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what we're seeing now at the same time

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inflation from Peak demand and Peak Cove

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disruptions also unwinds and unwinds for

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a longer term therein lies the magic

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formula of immaculatus inflation oh I

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love it when I say that TS Lombard's

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such a bear but that's okay aided by

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tighter but not too tight monetary

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policy profit margins stabilizing in Q2

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at still high levels toss is a monkey

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wrench into the idea of uh basically the

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FED cutting uh so here's TS Lombard

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coming out with their bear piece they're

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saying look if you're getting

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stabilization stabilization and profit

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margins in Q2 then stabilizations and

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profit margins are going to lead to more

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hiring more hiring is going to lead to

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the likelihood that you need to keep

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rates higher but that's that maybe one

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more raid hike that even Goolsby is

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talking about is pretty much a straight

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up dove

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and ultimately

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staying higher uh for for a longer level

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right so so you get that extra rate hike

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maybe we top out but it just takes a lot

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longer to start getting cuts and the

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cuts come slower than expected remember

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there's this belief that the FED might

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cut 25 BP at every meeting they could

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also skip on the way down you could go

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25 BP skip 25 BP skip until of course

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something breaks but anyway this is a

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problem that T.S Lombard argues and it

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really Echoes what Bank of America said

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this morning which suggests that his

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stocks will probably be under pressure

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for a while and the reason they'll be

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under pressure is mostly because you're

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in this this phase of okay well if we're

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going to be hired for longer why don't

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we just stay in bonds or other

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Investments or or just money markets and

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just wait for maybe maybe something to

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break and then go by at that point money

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markets would be your best Opportunity

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by the way in my opinion not

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personalized Financial advice to be

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prepared for something breaking because

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you're not exposed to the risk of your

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bonds losing value if you're in bonds

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and you're not exposed to stocks losing

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value if you're in stocks

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so anyway uh okay I expect so TS Lombard

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goes in it says I expect profit margins

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to contract in Q3 so this actually goes

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from the argument that oh well things

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are going to be higher for longer

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because profit margins are higher and

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now flipping into the idea of oh but

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wait don't worry the earnings recession

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is still coming that Q3 Q4 time frame

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which is kind of what uh you know you've

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had your Mike Wilson over at Morgan

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Stanley always complaining about it's

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coming we're gonna have more uh uh you

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know earnings crushes and to this point

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expect profit margins to contract in Q3

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given that Q over Q growth and final

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sales of domestic product has been

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dropping relative to the 90-day paper

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rates spreads have turned negative a

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cautionary signal and Q4 moving averages

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suggesting that the economy

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basically about to slow if however the

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relationship fails to hold in the

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current quarter and we see them hiring

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data and uh and uh basically improve and

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the recession gets delayed even further

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then guess what more higher for longer

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so you have this like bearish argument

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here and it's a very interesting bearish

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argument because it's kind of like the

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Bears can't be wrong Bears can't be

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wrong that's basically what TS Lombard

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is arguing uh I actually think the Bears

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can be wrong I'll tell you how but you

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should already know how but uh the Bears

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the Bears can't be wrong argument is

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either earnings recession and EPS pain

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slash valuation contraction right uh

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evaluation contraction multiple multiple

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contraction or

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you get recession

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which basically just leads to EPS

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decline

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either way you're screwed so you have uh

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well I guess this could almost be one of

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the same right you could say uh you have

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an earnings recession an EPS pain

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and uh or or and or recession causing

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that EPS pain and then you could say

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that the second argument is or stronger

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but then higher for longer and delayed

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EPS pain that's basically what they're

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arguing okay this is how the Bears say

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they can't be wrong now one of the

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reasons that I argue that uh there's

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actually a good chance there's could be

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wrong is because I believe that the

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market is mostly of this mindset of okay

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we need to uh get used to the idea that

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inflation could actually end up being

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transitory let's grab the Bell quickly

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and explain this supported

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this uh this idea here which is that my

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argument as to why while the Bears argue

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they can't be wrong one of the reasons

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you actually could be wrong is that as

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our country becomes more comfortable

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with this idea of inflation going away

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you you end up having what I've always

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called for this this very sort of

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volatile Nike Swoosh recovery uh and

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this would be over years and so far

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that's exactly what's been happening I

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expect that to somewhat continue

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okay so let's see what else they say

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here so so they wrap up their piece by

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arguing The Profit pickup in Q2 means

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the coming run of employment data uh has

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added importance basically higher for

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longer okay to be clear there will be

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nothing in the August report that pushes

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the FED to hike in September but current

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employment trends this is a way of

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saying like just because you're gonna

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pause doesn't mean we're wrong

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but current employment trends reflect

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profit losses pre-q2 and inflation lags

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employment if employment data

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Trends reflect profit losses pre-q2 and

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inflation lags employment okay if

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employment data shows some undue

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strength then rounding back to turn

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around uh turn around to Q2 profits an

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uptick in hiring will be strong signal

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in federal race rights I lean towards

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recession sooner rather than later based

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on the jump in real yields at the long

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end and the inventory cost of carry on

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top of everything else including

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warnings to mid-sized Banks to get their

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balance sheets in order blah blah blah I

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feel like it's kind of like uh I think

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EPS is going to decline

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and here's the kitchen sink it's kind of

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a little bit of what I feel like the TS

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Lombard argument here is on this

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recession coming uh yeah but they're not

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wrong right I mean strength in in GDP is

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going to keep rates higher for longer

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the question is how much does that

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actually matter uh you know you look at

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the Atlanta fed real GDP forecast the G

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the GDP now they call it

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um we're sitting at

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5.6 percent and that's pretty aggressive

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we actually get our next update

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uh let's see here September 6th was the

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last one oh it was just two days ago so

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it's gonna be another okay the next

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update is actually later today

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later today we'll get the latest update

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on the fednow GDP update what I think is

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neat about this chart is just how

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aggressive the Atlanta fed uh now real

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GDP chart is versus other measures you

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look at the same Lewis real GDP measure

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and it's much more in line with what we

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call the Blue Chip consensus which is

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like the market consensus you can see

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that right here this blue line is the

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market thinking GDP is around two

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percent and Atlanta thinking it's

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somewhere on five and a half percent

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which just seems a little wild but

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anyway yeah uh it makes sense of why

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there's this idea of hire for longer but

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and this is why I think the Nike Swoosh

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continues to hold

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you have to remember that if the economy

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and GDP are booming but inflation

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continues to fall then it doesn't matter

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remember Jerome Powell did not say we

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are going to hike more if the economy is

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strong

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he said we're going to hike more if the

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economy is strong and inflation is going

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up

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that's that's the key and I think a lot

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of bears are really forgetting that now

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and I really I feel bad for a lot of

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people who have been 100 on the

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sidelines and not at least having some

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exposure uh and that's because they're

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constantly looking for this bare

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narrative without realizing that you're

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basically getting cooked to death like a

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frog in a in a Lobster Pot that you're

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turning onto a boil it's like you're

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just you're slowly getting unbeared but

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if you're not allocating then you're

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getting burned

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