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Facebook Executives’ Response to Whistleblower

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well folks much like hillary clinton's

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emails in 2016 one of the most divisive

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things that you could talk about from

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the 2020 election has to do with hunter

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biden's laptop and the hunter biden

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laptop story is now surfacing again

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thanks to the connection of hunter

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biden's laptop story

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and potential censorship by the team

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that francis hogan worked on at facebook

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francis hogan of course is the

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whistleblower in the facebook testimony

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that we heard from congress today about

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the failures of facebook especially with

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its facebook algorithm

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and folks

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in this video we're going to talk about

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facebook's response so let's catch you

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up to speed all right so really really

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quick brief overview here on hunter

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biden's laptop and i apologize to the

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left if i miss something and i apologize

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to the right if i miss something talking

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about things this decisive is honestly

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stupid because i probably am not going

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to make people who care about both sides

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really happy because i'm going to give a

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brief overview i'm not going to go super

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deep on this but i want the gist of why

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this is coming up again to be known so

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that way we can talk about what the real

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issue at hand is so let's give this a

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shot back in 2020 the new york post

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wrote an article on email supposedly

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obtained from hunter biden's laptop

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who's joe biden's son hunter biden had

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allegedly left his laptop at a repair

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shop in delaware in april of 2019 and

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the store owner is apparently and

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technically legally blind and said he

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tried to reach hunter biden to return

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his laptop numerous times before finally

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taking the laptop and deciding to look

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at the laptop itself

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apparently when he looked through the

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laptop despite being legally blind there

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was a big reveal that came out that

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essentially had to do with an email from

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april of 2019 that said dear hunter

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thank you for inviting me to dc and

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giving me the opportunity to meet your

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father and spend some time together it's

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really an honor and pleasure reads the

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email and apparently this is written by

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an advisor to the board of burisma

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hunter had also been a board member of

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this company since

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2014 and the big issue here is wait a

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minute is hunter biden

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leveraging the fact that he's joe

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biden's son to get political favors and

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set up meetings now on the left we hear

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this is not real on the right we hear oh

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no it's real in fact even political has

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referenced that these emails exist there

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are potentially videos that came from

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allegedly joe or hunter biden's laptop

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showing hunter biden

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having sex with a woman and then talking

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about things and it's clearly hunter

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biden this story goes deep the left

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argues back and says well wait a minute

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of course hunter and hunter's attorney

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say they have no idea and just say you

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can't credit rudy giuliani because sure

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rudy giuliani may have been involved in

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releasing and breaking this story and

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maybe rudy giuliani's credibility has

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been you know called into question

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recently but the right says that doesn't

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take away from the fact that the story

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happened

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and why does this particular story

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matter because individuals believe

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that if this story had proper media

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coverage the results of the 2020

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election which were heavily disputed

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could have potentially been different

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this is why the left calls this fake

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news and a conspiracy theory and this is

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why left-leaning big tech also played a

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role in censoring this hunter biden

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story because it was deemed to be

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misinformation and there were campaigns

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to limit misinformation in the 2020

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election except most of the

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misinformation that was limited was

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information that would have favored the

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right or donald trump's campaign and

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this is where people on the left say

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well that's just because the people on

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the right are the ones sharing all the

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misinformation and the people on the

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right are like no that's because y'all

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are big tech and big tech is donating

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big dollars to joe biden

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and now

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i'm going to take a step back from this

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because you could see how insanely crazy

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this stuff gets and all i'm going to say

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here is as crazy as i look right now

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i ran for governor in

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2021 in the recall election in

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california

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now i play second after larry elder to

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replace gavin newsom and i'm very proud

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of that i got a lot of votes very very

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proud of that

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but i lost

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and in my campaign i realized that when

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i made my campaign announcement

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facebook donated over 30 million dollars

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on behalf of gavin newsom to gavin

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newsom's campaign and my announcement

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post just happened to get deleted from

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instagram

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and when fox news reached out they're

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like oh

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that was a mistake sorry and they put my

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post back up

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twitter

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refuses to verify me despite meeting all

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of the eligibility criteria to be

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verified

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and i'm also running against an existing

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democratic establishment governor who in

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the future wants to become president who

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has big relations with corporate tech

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so

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i'm not trying to say i'm on the left or

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right

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i'm just trying to say

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what i'm literally saying there's a lot

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going on with this hunter biden email

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stuff

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and when i ran my campaign there were

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definitely some things that were sus

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okay definitely suspect

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now the right side calls the hunter

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biden email scandal a big smoking gun of

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unfairness in

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elections which fairness is actually

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exactly what francis hogan talked about

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as a member of wait for the facebook

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civic integrity team

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the facebook integrity team civic entire

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egg integrity team was something that uh

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francis was a part of she's the

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whistleblower who talked and testified

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in congress today about what facebook

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was doing wrong how facebook's

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algorithms are unhealthy for children

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for younger girls and potentially so

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political divisiveness by encouraging

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extreme or outrageous content to be

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showed to people who were who are most

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likely to share it so in other words

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somebody who's on the left is most

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likely to share outrageous content that

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benefits the left somebody on the right

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is most likely to share outrageous

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content that benefits the right and so

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really the videos and articles that get

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shared aren't videos that try to be

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neutral they're the ones that get you

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really pissed off and want to want to

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share that information with your side

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and that algorithms pick up on they see

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that engagement and share that with

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users more and more and more i

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understand this because i am a youtube

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content creator and as a youtube content

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creator i know that if you are likely to

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share a video my video is likely to do

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exponentially better than if you do not

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share the video but it has to be

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legitimate share because it goes beyond

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just the first share i could ask you to

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share the video but it does does no good

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if the next person doesn't watch it or

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doesn't share it as well it's really

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when you get the chain of shares that's

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when videos go viral and that's how they

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circulate their communities over and

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over again now

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what does this hunter biden laptop have

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to do with francis well francis being

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part of the facebook

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civic integrity team

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apparently links her

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to being part of the team that censored

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the biden laptop story from facebook and

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so now folks are calling the credibility

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of francis hogan into question since she

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was part of that team where she's

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encouraging fairness yet apparently

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might have been on the team that

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censored the hunter biden laptop story

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during the 2020 election now facebook

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has responded to the hearing today

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facebook says that francis hogan was a

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less than two-year employee had no

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direct reports or knowledge of how

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algorithms work at facebook never

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attended decision point meetings with

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corporate level executives testified six

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times to not working on the subject

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matter she was being uh essentially

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subpoenaed upon not subpoenaed upon was

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testifying upon

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facebook does not agree with the

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conclusion she makes and facebook says

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yeah we should have some standard rules

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for the internet but

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what's really important here is that now

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all of a sudden

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this entire facebook leak and facebook

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crisis

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has evolved and this is the big bottom

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line so if you're confused here here's

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the big bottom line

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i broke down what francis said this

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morning and i gave my summary thoughts i

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caught you up on the hunter biden laptop

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story

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what's happening now though

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is media specifically social media

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whether it's algorithmic or not whether

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it's twitter youtube or facebook or

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whatever

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is turning the story into a story about

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hunter biden's laptop and the story of

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censorship again

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people who have more right leaning

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inclinations are likely to call the

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francis hogan debate over facebook

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censorship and that anybody who wants to

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change the algorithm at facebook wants

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to censor content and the way it should

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be shared

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and media on the other side is saying no

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this is not about censorship this is

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about protecting people which of course

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just re-aggravates the arguments on the

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other side that

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people on the right say well people on

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the right or people in general should

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have the right to protect themselves and

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we don't need to be mommy and daddy for

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them they should determine themselves so

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basically if you talk about facebook at

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this point

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if your pro changes to the algorithm

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apparently you're a liberal and if your

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anti changes to the algorithm you're pro

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your anti-censorship and you're on the

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right that's kind of how things are

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being cast right now and i think it's

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really a mistake because we're doing

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what we usually do in politics again

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we're not talking about the actual issue

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at hand it's like the issue is here in

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the middle which i'm going to tell you

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what i think the issue is and then it's

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kind of like here's a red herring oh the

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right says this and the left says this

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let's take politics out of it for a

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moment

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and come to what i believe is a fair

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conclusion

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this facebook crisis debate is a debate

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over the fact that when algorithms make

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decisions in terms of what content

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algorithms show us algorithms are more

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likely to show us content that sparks

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outrage and emotion we can agree on that

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and something that is shareable why

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because a it leads to more views and

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shares which therefore beget more views

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b it leads to more creators making

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content around that information because

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when creators see that certain content

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gets more views more creators talk about

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that situation c

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we potentially amplify negative feelings

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because feelings of negativity travel in

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a more viral fashion than feelings of

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positivity this is of course quite the

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opposite of what we feel though when we

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go on instagram and we're surrounded by

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only the most beautiful pictures so you

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kind of have to bisect this a little bit

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when you go on instagram you're shown

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the most beautiful or sexy pictures in

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general but when it comes to politics

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you're generally shown only the most

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negative information and algorithms do

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perpetuate this we know this

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and d

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these algorithms lead to more

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profitability for facebook currently

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somewhere around 35 dollars per every

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three months per

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user

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so

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now the question is how much should we

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allow algorithms to cater the content

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that we want to see should we go back to

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seeing content chronologically like when

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you go to the youtube subscriptions feed

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which a lot of people don't use maybe 10

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of people use

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if you go to the youtube subscription

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feed you will see videos chronologically

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try it go try click subscriptions right

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now and then see like ah compare the

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content that's in your subscription feed

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to your homepage page what's more

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engaging do you get burnt out scrolling

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through the subscriptions feed versus

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the front page where you're like oh i

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gotta watch it i can watch that right

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or should we have a more clear option to

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do that on twitter as well as facebook

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like we have on youtube now we have that

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on twitter and it's called the

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notifications tab that's one way where

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if you have notifications on for

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everyone you could just sort by

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basically content chronologically i

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actually use that i don't like my

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catered content i like all the content

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because i want to see it all and i want

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to see it chronologically

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so the question really becomes should

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facebook give you that option and then

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how do we handle the fact that we have

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young girls who uh basically uh are

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asked

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that uh you're uh well here here's the

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statistic

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32 percent of survey teen british girls

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say facebook helped worsen their body

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image facebook and instagram and 13 of

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british users with with suicidal

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thoughts already linked their thoughts

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back to facebook or instagram right

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do our parents responsible for helping

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intervene here is our health care system

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responsible providing mental health for

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this or the british healthcare system is

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facebook responsible for this that's the

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real debate that we should be having not

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censorship hunter biden or otherwise

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but that's the way things work in this

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world so i hope you appreciate this

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video if you did consider sharing and

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subscribing and folks we'll see in the

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next one thank you so much

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