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It's soon possible that your credit card

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that you get rewards on could get

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rejected by the stores you go to. Take a

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look at this. There's a new Visa and

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Mastercard agreement that took 20 years

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to litigate. The Wall Street Journal

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first reported on it. It's since been

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covered a lot in financial media because

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people are wondering how does something

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first of all take 20 years to litigate?

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Attorneys made literally a whole career

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off of this. But apparently the idea is

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that right now companies

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uh based on the credit card that people

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use get charged different interchange

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fees. That's sort of like that disguised

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fee that the merchants pay when you go

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buy something. So you go to a local

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coffee shop and you use a certain

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preferred card, you might pay 2.4% or as

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much as 2.8% on a credit card. on uh

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lower expense cards, maybe cards that

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don't really offer you that many perks,

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the merchant may only get charged, let's

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say, 1.6% or maybe as low as 1.3%.

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Well, there are three buckets of cards.

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The buckets of cards are commercial,

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premium, and standard consumer cards.

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And it's possible that companies might

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now, businesses that you go to might now

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say, "Hey, we're not interested in

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taking your Chase Sapphire card or your

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MX Platinum. We'll only take a standard

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card." Now, Moody's makes the argument

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that you end up by doing this,

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businesses might end up risking pissing

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people off and then people don't end up

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spending at those businesses, which is

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possible. But most of the higher income

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credit card holders have multiple credit

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cards. So theoretically they can switch

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to another credit card and pay. Now

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what's wild about this is really what

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you do by doing this is you kind of

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screw small businesses. Again, I wrote

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this. I'm not going to actually post it,

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but I wrote this comment. I sort of just

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wrote it out on the Wall Street Journal

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as a little template thing here in the

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comment section of the Wall Street

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Journal. I wrote that the competitive

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advantages of the big companies is that

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they can just go make their own credit

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cards. I mean, look at Robin Hood for

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example. Robin Hood's 3% cash back card

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is not a sustainable credit card

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business. We know that because even in

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their financials, they tell us that

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they're basically losing money

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handoverfist on this credit card

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program. I mean, look at this. If you

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look right here, you could see on this

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lower section, you could see that

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Robin Hood, which offers to, you know,

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certain customers who qualify for it or

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get it. Robin Hood offers a 3% yield on

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their credit card, which is great. You

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get 3% cash back. It's amazing on

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everything. No limits, right? It makes

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you want to sign up for Robin Hood and

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hopefully get off the wait list. Well,

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their revenue on the credit card net is

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$24 million.

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Their expenses related to these credit

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cards, possibly with some other credit

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facilities. They're not very clear about

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that, are $24 million.

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So assuming most of this is credit card

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here, they make $0 on the credit card.

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But wait a minute, that doesn't even

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account for the loss reserves that they

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put aside for people not actually paying

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the $200 million that are outstanding on

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Robin Hood gold card credit cards. So,

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what you find is that Robin Hood

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actually takes a $55 million allowance

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for credit losses, which means that

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Robin Hood is basically losing $55

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million on the Robin Hood Gold card,

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which if they have $200 million

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outstanding on the card is basically a

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fourth of all Robin Hood gold card

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balances they're writing off for an

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assumption that there will be losses on

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these cards.

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So, why would Robin Hood do that? Well,

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to get you to sign up for Robin Hood, of

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course, and hopefully get the card

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because 3% back is good. Like, if you

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were at Robin Hood, why would you not

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use the 3% card? It totally makes sense.

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Like, otherwise, you use like the Apple

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card and get 2% back, maybe 1% back. You

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use the City Double Cash card and get 2%

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back. You use the Venture X card and

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get, you know, a little bit more than 2%

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back. Bank of America, if you have like

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six figure deposits, they'll give you

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like 2.5ish% back, right? Uh but the

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standard for cash back right now is

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somewhere between two and two and a bit

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percent. Well, big companies can

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subsidize that. Like, think about this.

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One of the big advantages of a company

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like Amazon or if you think about it,

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Target is that these companies can

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actually incentivize you to get a 5%

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back store card. Like I personally have

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a store card with Amazon, with Target,

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and with Lowe's because when I go shop

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at Lowe's, I get 5% back on top of the

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other discounts we get to Lowe's. Uh if

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I go shop at Target, I get 5% at or 5%

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off the ticket price, right? 5% back at

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Amazon. If I go buy something on Amazon

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that's $100, let's just for simplicity

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not include sales taxes. If I buy

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something for $100 at Amazon and I get

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5% off at Amazon, it cost me $95.

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If I go to a local store, a local

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business, and I buy something that's

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$100, and then the charge or or the the

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local company, excuse me, tries to pass

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on like a 2.5% credit card fee, then

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they're really charging me $102.50.

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Well, the difference between paying 95

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and 102.5 is 9.7

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or sorry, 7.9%.

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A little dyslexic there.

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That's a lot.

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So, who loses in all of this is probably

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the small business that's like, "Dude,

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we can't afford all these these credit

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card fees anymore. We're going to start

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rejecting premium cards or we're going

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to have to charge people for the credit

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card transaction fee." Well, that just

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makes it even more expensive to go shop

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at a small business compared to like an

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Amazon, Target or Lowe's where they've

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actually or Robin Hood where they could

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totally take a loss on the credit card

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to basically step on small businesses

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and destroy small businesses.

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That sucks. So all of a sudden you've

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got more of a reason not to go shop at

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small businesses. And it sucks because

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these are hardworking, you know,

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American businesses who are trying to

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compete. See right here, more and more

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merchants, especially small businesses

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in recent years, have begun passing on

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the interchange fee to consumers. Now,

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some small businesses are starting to

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try to collect money through like PayPal

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or zel, which maybe that's good for

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PayPal. Uh, and you know, I just I was

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just saying for house hack, I was just

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paying for quartz countertops with Zel

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and there's no credit card fee there,

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you know. So, I mean, like good for them

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because I just, you know, when I do like

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Zel or even PayPal or Venmo, I always

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put it like as friend because I don't

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want them to have to pay the fee and

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it's like I don't need the the payment

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protection bull crap. So, I just say

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they're my friend and then I don't pay

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the fee and they don't pay a fee and

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they're happy and I'm happy and it's

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like I'm not trying to dispute the

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charge with them because like I got the

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countertop, I'm looking at the

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countertop, it's in my property, right?

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[laughter] you know, so I was like,

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"What's there to dispute? What do I need

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a warranty on a quartz countertop?" You

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know what I mean? So, anyway, the the

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point of this is apparently this this

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deal per the Wall Street Journal

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editorial board will uh cap the fee that

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could be charged for standard cards at

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1.25%.

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Which if you look over here, that's a

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reduction cuz the some of the standard

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cards are at 1.65%.

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So, there's a limit on the standard

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cards. So, you're going to see a

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compression in the benefits that even

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standard cards give you. But the risk is

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that now you end up seeing premium cards

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get rejected at businesses and they're

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like, "Hey, if you're going to pay with

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a premium card, we're we're just not

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going to take it." So, that actually

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hurts potentially, not necessarily going

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to happen anytime soon, but it could

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happen. Your MX Platinums, your Chase

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Sapphire Reserve kind of cards or

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whatever. Now, I'm all for Chase getting

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a big fat middle finger. Like, I love

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this. Look at this. Fox Business

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reporting that the attorney general of

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Florida is now probing JP Morgan Chase

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over alleged debanking of Trump media.

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They're basically saying like why did

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you debank Trump like right when he was

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in the middle of trying to fund raise

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for the Trump media group and the stock

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you know going public or or whatever,

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right? Closing the merger of it because

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the spa was public before that JP

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Morgan's getting investigated. I don't

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think we hate the big banks enough. I

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think the big banks, and this is just my

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opinion, but and and look, don't get me

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wrong, in in 2022, at the end of 2022, I

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remember saying, "Guys, there's there's

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something weird going on. You might want

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to be cautious with small banks because

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there's something brewing." I didn't

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know what the hell it was, but to be

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transparent, I put money in Chase cuz

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I'm like, "Well, they're too big to

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fail." Then what happened? We literally

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went from the end of 2022, if you go

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watch my videos, like December 22,

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January 23, I'm like, I don't feel good

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about small banks right now. Really

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eerie. But what happened in March of

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2023?

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Banking crisis. Who's too big to fail?

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JP Morgan. So, it's a place to go to

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like for safety with your cash deposits.

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right now. Of course, FDIC ended up

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bailing out all banks, uh, which de

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facto means there's no more $250,000

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FDIC limit. It's sort of like an

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infinite limit because they don't want

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banks to fail. They don't want

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depositors to lose their money,

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especially the rich tech bros over at

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Silicon Valley Bank that all got bailed

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out. But anyway, now what? Well, now you

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look and you see JP Morgan rugpulling

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companies like which maybe they deserved

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it. But I wouldn't be surprised if JP

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Morgan's going around rugpulling a bunch

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of other people's lines of credits,

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warehouse lines of credit, margin

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calling people because they're getting

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nervous about the economy. And that's

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how it starts. That's how credit cycles

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start. The banks stop lending. They

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start getting more restrictive on how

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they lend. And that's why I say like you

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don't hate the big banks enough because

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when times are good, they'll borrow.

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They'll lend to you like crazy and

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they'll be your best friend. They'll

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take you on trips. They'll take you out

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on boat excursion, whatever. They will

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suck up to you if you got money and the

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times are good cuz they want your debt.

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They want you to borrow.

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Times go bad, they rug you. This is one

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of those times where we're like at one

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of those teeter totters in the economy

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where like you don't want to be uh you

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don't want to be beholden to uh to the

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banks right now. So, so like sorry

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that's like a whole tangent off of the

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Chase Sapphire, but I believe it. I

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mean, Wall Street Journal is literally

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talking about it. See, premium card

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users are in for a big surprise there.

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JP Morgan Sapphire Reserve and many

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other rewards cards could soon get

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rejected by merchants. 20-year legal

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battle suggests that companies no longer

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have to quote honor all cards. I mean, I

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can kind of see like if you go to like

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Amazon, they might just say, "Hey,

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sorry, we don't take the reserve card

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anymore." Makes sense to me, you know?

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Or or if you think about it, like if you

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go to uh somebody says, "You're making

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me more and more jaded." I I apologize.

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Like I feel like the more and more we

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study on markets, the more you kind of

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have to be jaded. But but it's good.

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Like I actually think a lot of people

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who invest in house hack are very very

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jaded people because they're educated

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and and they've been screwed before and

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they're like, "All right, I mean

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obviously read the solicitation there.

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They there risk with every investment.

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The video is not a solicitation. Read

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the offering circular." But it's like

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real estate back company. worst case

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scenario, it's still backed by real

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estate. Do we trust investing in real

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estate and and and Kevin's ability to

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lead that, right? But like, you know, we

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get we get people that ask very smart

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and savvy questions and people are very

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like in I think in order to get through

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the world and through life, you have to

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kind of be a little jaded, right? You

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like at the very least know where your

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risks are, right? So, like I'm not

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saying don't go bank with Chase and

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don't have a warehouse line of credit,

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but like let's say if I'm a roofer right

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now and I've got a $100,000 payroll line

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of credit, business line of credit with

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Chase, do I be myself right

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now? Because if in 3 weeks we get a bad

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jobs report and then all of a sudden JP

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Morgan goes, "Yo, I'm freezing your line

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and I'm calling it due and payable in

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the next 60 days." Like, bro, you're

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going to bankrupt me. What's Chase going

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to say to me? They're not going to go,

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"Oh, sorry. will extend your line. No,

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they're going to go, "Sorry, bro.

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Peace." Then you're screwed. So, like,

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I'm not saying they're definitely going

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to do that, but I'm saying they can do

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that. And so, and it has happened and it

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will happen again. And so, that's why I

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have this mindset of I would rather you

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be jaded and aware than get blindsided.

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Like, if you have the line of credit and

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you're aware of the risk, great. But I

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think a lot of people honestly are not

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aware of how the banks can absolutely

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rug you. Uh and and that's that's the

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scariest part is is the real rug pull

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that could happen. [music]

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>> Why not advertise these things that you

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told us here? I feel like nobody else

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knows about this.

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>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and

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see how it goes.

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>> Congratulations, man. You have done so

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much. People love you. People look up to

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you.

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>> Kevin Papra there, financial analyst and

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YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great to

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get your take.

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