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It's soon possible that your credit card
that you get rewards on could get
rejected by the stores you go to. Take a
look at this. There's a new Visa and
Mastercard agreement that took 20 years
to litigate. The Wall Street Journal
first reported on it. It's since been
covered a lot in financial media because
people are wondering how does something
first of all take 20 years to litigate?
Attorneys made literally a whole career
off of this. But apparently the idea is
that right now companies
uh based on the credit card that people
use get charged different interchange
fees. That's sort of like that disguised
fee that the merchants pay when you go
buy something. So you go to a local
coffee shop and you use a certain
preferred card, you might pay 2.4% or as
much as 2.8% on a credit card. on uh
lower expense cards, maybe cards that
don't really offer you that many perks,
the merchant may only get charged, let's
say, 1.6% or maybe as low as 1.3%.
Well, there are three buckets of cards.
The buckets of cards are commercial,
premium, and standard consumer cards.
And it's possible that companies might
now, businesses that you go to might now
say, "Hey, we're not interested in
taking your Chase Sapphire card or your
MX Platinum. We'll only take a standard
card." Now, Moody's makes the argument
that you end up by doing this,
businesses might end up risking pissing
people off and then people don't end up
spending at those businesses, which is
possible. But most of the higher income
credit card holders have multiple credit
cards. So theoretically they can switch
to another credit card and pay. Now
what's wild about this is really what
you do by doing this is you kind of
screw small businesses. Again, I wrote
this. I'm not going to actually post it,
but I wrote this comment. I sort of just
wrote it out on the Wall Street Journal
as a little template thing here in the
comment section of the Wall Street
Journal. I wrote that the competitive
advantages of the big companies is that
they can just go make their own credit
cards. I mean, look at Robin Hood for
example. Robin Hood's 3% cash back card
is not a sustainable credit card
business. We know that because even in
their financials, they tell us that
they're basically losing money
handoverfist on this credit card
program. I mean, look at this. If you
look right here, you could see on this
lower section, you could see that
Robin Hood, which offers to, you know,
certain customers who qualify for it or
get it. Robin Hood offers a 3% yield on
their credit card, which is great. You
get 3% cash back. It's amazing on
everything. No limits, right? It makes
you want to sign up for Robin Hood and
hopefully get off the wait list. Well,
their revenue on the credit card net is
$24 million.
Their expenses related to these credit
cards, possibly with some other credit
facilities. They're not very clear about
that, are $24 million.
So assuming most of this is credit card
here, they make $0 on the credit card.
But wait a minute, that doesn't even
account for the loss reserves that they
put aside for people not actually paying
the $200 million that are outstanding on
Robin Hood gold card credit cards. So,
what you find is that Robin Hood
actually takes a $55 million allowance
for credit losses, which means that
Robin Hood is basically losing $55
million on the Robin Hood Gold card,
which if they have $200 million
outstanding on the card is basically a
fourth of all Robin Hood gold card
balances they're writing off for an
assumption that there will be losses on
these cards.
So, why would Robin Hood do that? Well,
to get you to sign up for Robin Hood, of
course, and hopefully get the card
because 3% back is good. Like, if you
were at Robin Hood, why would you not
use the 3% card? It totally makes sense.
Like, otherwise, you use like the Apple
card and get 2% back, maybe 1% back. You
use the City Double Cash card and get 2%
back. You use the Venture X card and
get, you know, a little bit more than 2%
back. Bank of America, if you have like
six figure deposits, they'll give you
like 2.5ish% back, right? Uh but the
standard for cash back right now is
somewhere between two and two and a bit
percent. Well, big companies can
subsidize that. Like, think about this.
One of the big advantages of a company
like Amazon or if you think about it,
Target is that these companies can
actually incentivize you to get a 5%
back store card. Like I personally have
a store card with Amazon, with Target,
and with Lowe's because when I go shop
at Lowe's, I get 5% back on top of the
other discounts we get to Lowe's. Uh if
I go shop at Target, I get 5% at or 5%
off the ticket price, right? 5% back at
Amazon. If I go buy something on Amazon
that's $100, let's just for simplicity
not include sales taxes. If I buy
something for $100 at Amazon and I get
5% off at Amazon, it cost me $95.
If I go to a local store, a local
business, and I buy something that's
$100, and then the charge or or the the
local company, excuse me, tries to pass
on like a 2.5% credit card fee, then
they're really charging me $102.50.
Well, the difference between paying 95
and 102.5 is 9.7
or sorry, 7.9%.
A little dyslexic there.
That's a lot.
So, who loses in all of this is probably
the small business that's like, "Dude,
we can't afford all these these credit
card fees anymore. We're going to start
rejecting premium cards or we're going
to have to charge people for the credit
card transaction fee." Well, that just
makes it even more expensive to go shop
at a small business compared to like an
Amazon, Target or Lowe's where they've
actually or Robin Hood where they could
totally take a loss on the credit card
to basically step on small businesses
and destroy small businesses.
That sucks. So all of a sudden you've
got more of a reason not to go shop at
small businesses. And it sucks because
these are hardworking, you know,
American businesses who are trying to
compete. See right here, more and more
merchants, especially small businesses
in recent years, have begun passing on
the interchange fee to consumers. Now,
some small businesses are starting to
try to collect money through like PayPal
or zel, which maybe that's good for
PayPal. Uh, and you know, I just I was
just saying for house hack, I was just
paying for quartz countertops with Zel
and there's no credit card fee there,
you know. So, I mean, like good for them
because I just, you know, when I do like
Zel or even PayPal or Venmo, I always
put it like as friend because I don't
want them to have to pay the fee and
it's like I don't need the the payment
protection bull crap. So, I just say
they're my friend and then I don't pay
the fee and they don't pay a fee and
they're happy and I'm happy and it's
like I'm not trying to dispute the
charge with them because like I got the
countertop, I'm looking at the
countertop, it's in my property, right?
[laughter] you know, so I was like,
"What's there to dispute? What do I need
a warranty on a quartz countertop?" You
know what I mean? So, anyway, the the
point of this is apparently this this
deal per the Wall Street Journal
editorial board will uh cap the fee that
could be charged for standard cards at
1.25%.
Which if you look over here, that's a
reduction cuz the some of the standard
cards are at 1.65%.
So, there's a limit on the standard
cards. So, you're going to see a
compression in the benefits that even
standard cards give you. But the risk is
that now you end up seeing premium cards
get rejected at businesses and they're
like, "Hey, if you're going to pay with
a premium card, we're we're just not
going to take it." So, that actually
hurts potentially, not necessarily going
to happen anytime soon, but it could
happen. Your MX Platinums, your Chase
Sapphire Reserve kind of cards or
whatever. Now, I'm all for Chase getting
a big fat middle finger. Like, I love
this. Look at this. Fox Business
reporting that the attorney general of
Florida is now probing JP Morgan Chase
over alleged debanking of Trump media.
They're basically saying like why did
you debank Trump like right when he was
in the middle of trying to fund raise
for the Trump media group and the stock
you know going public or or whatever,
right? Closing the merger of it because
the spa was public before that JP
Morgan's getting investigated. I don't
think we hate the big banks enough. I
think the big banks, and this is just my
opinion, but and and look, don't get me
wrong, in in 2022, at the end of 2022, I
remember saying, "Guys, there's there's
something weird going on. You might want
to be cautious with small banks because
there's something brewing." I didn't
know what the hell it was, but to be
transparent, I put money in Chase cuz
I'm like, "Well, they're too big to
fail." Then what happened? We literally
went from the end of 2022, if you go
watch my videos, like December 22,
January 23, I'm like, I don't feel good
about small banks right now. Really
eerie. But what happened in March of
2023?
Banking crisis. Who's too big to fail?
JP Morgan. So, it's a place to go to
like for safety with your cash deposits.
right now. Of course, FDIC ended up
bailing out all banks, uh, which de
facto means there's no more $250,000
FDIC limit. It's sort of like an
infinite limit because they don't want
banks to fail. They don't want
depositors to lose their money,
especially the rich tech bros over at
Silicon Valley Bank that all got bailed
out. But anyway, now what? Well, now you
look and you see JP Morgan rugpulling
companies like which maybe they deserved
it. But I wouldn't be surprised if JP
Morgan's going around rugpulling a bunch
of other people's lines of credits,
warehouse lines of credit, margin
calling people because they're getting
nervous about the economy. And that's
how it starts. That's how credit cycles
start. The banks stop lending. They
start getting more restrictive on how
they lend. And that's why I say like you
don't hate the big banks enough because
when times are good, they'll borrow.
They'll lend to you like crazy and
they'll be your best friend. They'll
take you on trips. They'll take you out
on boat excursion, whatever. They will
suck up to you if you got money and the
times are good cuz they want your debt.
They want you to borrow.
Times go bad, they rug you. This is one
of those times where we're like at one
of those teeter totters in the economy
where like you don't want to be uh you
don't want to be beholden to uh to the
banks right now. So, so like sorry
that's like a whole tangent off of the
Chase Sapphire, but I believe it. I
mean, Wall Street Journal is literally
talking about it. See, premium card
users are in for a big surprise there.
JP Morgan Sapphire Reserve and many
other rewards cards could soon get
rejected by merchants. 20-year legal
battle suggests that companies no longer
have to quote honor all cards. I mean, I
can kind of see like if you go to like
Amazon, they might just say, "Hey,
sorry, we don't take the reserve card
anymore." Makes sense to me, you know?
Or or if you think about it, like if you
go to uh somebody says, "You're making
me more and more jaded." I I apologize.
Like I feel like the more and more we
study on markets, the more you kind of
have to be jaded. But but it's good.
Like I actually think a lot of people
who invest in house hack are very very
jaded people because they're educated
and and they've been screwed before and
they're like, "All right, I mean
obviously read the solicitation there.
They there risk with every investment.
The video is not a solicitation. Read
the offering circular." But it's like
real estate back company. worst case
scenario, it's still backed by real
estate. Do we trust investing in real
estate and and and Kevin's ability to
lead that, right? But like, you know, we
get we get people that ask very smart
and savvy questions and people are very
like in I think in order to get through
the world and through life, you have to
kind of be a little jaded, right? You
like at the very least know where your
risks are, right? So, like I'm not
saying don't go bank with Chase and
don't have a warehouse line of credit,
but like let's say if I'm a roofer right
now and I've got a $100,000 payroll line
of credit, business line of credit with
Chase, do I be myself right
now? Because if in 3 weeks we get a bad
jobs report and then all of a sudden JP
Morgan goes, "Yo, I'm freezing your line
and I'm calling it due and payable in
the next 60 days." Like, bro, you're
going to bankrupt me. What's Chase going
to say to me? They're not going to go,
"Oh, sorry. will extend your line. No,
they're going to go, "Sorry, bro.
Peace." Then you're screwed. So, like,
I'm not saying they're definitely going
to do that, but I'm saying they can do
that. And so, and it has happened and it
will happen again. And so, that's why I
have this mindset of I would rather you
be jaded and aware than get blindsided.
Like, if you have the line of credit and
you're aware of the risk, great. But I
think a lot of people honestly are not
aware of how the banks can absolutely
rug you. Uh and and that's that's the
scariest part is is the real rug pull
that could happen. [music]
>> Why not advertise these things that you
told us here? I feel like nobody else
knows about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you.
>> Kevin Papra there, financial analyst and
YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great to
get your take.
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