Air India 171 *Critical New Data* Vapor Lock Engine Failure - What Captain Steeeve isn't Saying.
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There is now new evidence that points to
a potential cause for the Air India 171
flight that crashed first 787 Dreamliner
8 whole loss ever of that Dreamliner
series. And folks, we've got to talk
about what nobody is piecing together
yet. And I think as a jet pilot myself,
I may be piecing together some of the
puzzle that hasn't been mentioned by
other creators in the space. First of
all, shout out to some of the other
channels covering the topics, whether
it's AI telly's animations, which are
always great, or Captain Steve, who
finally U-turned on blaming the pilots,
to now arguing dual engine failure is
possible. Originally, we talk about the
potential for the first officer to grab
the flap setting instead of the gear.
And we make these sort of speculative
assertions when we actually see
components of the aircraft on the ground
indicating the flaps may have actually
been set in the perfect cons
configuration for takeoff. Now,
obviously, we know that the ram air
turbine has been deployed. We know that
the landing gear stays out. So, what
could potentially put together all of
the pieces of the puzzle that nobody is
talking about? As a jet pilot, we're
going to get into it right away. Vapor
lock. This is my opinion, and I'm going
to explain to you why I think vapor lock
could have caused a dual engine failure
inside this aircraft and led uh to the
crash uh and death of now potentially
over 270
individuals. First of all, what is vapor
lock and how can it occur? Generally,
you're going to see vapor lock occur
when the conditions inside the aircraft
are extremely hot. What we know about
the Air India crash already is that
people were fanning themselves inside of
the aircraft because the air
conditioning was off. You could see
people fanning themselves. This aircraft
sat on the tarmac per the Guardian for
over 2 hours. By sitting on the tarmac
for over 2 hours, potentially as long as
3 hours before takeoff, we end up with a
condition where this aircraft is in a
very hot configuration or hot state. The
air conditioning is not on inside of the
aircraft and you end up getting fuel lo
fuel lines inside of the aircraft that
potentially become heat saturated. Now,
why does that matter? Why would it
matter that fuel lines inside of the
aircraft are potentially heat saturated?
It's not a problem if your fuel pumps
are walking or or or are functioning.
Vapor lock is basically the lowering uh
of uh the or or the increase in
temperature leading to vapor bubbles
inside of the fuel lines of an aircraft.
This could happen in a car. It could
happen in a Cessna. It could happen in a
Piper. And it could happen in a lower or
a larger aircraft like a Boeing 787 as
well. Now, usually a 787 is not going to
see this happen because we have two very
powerful hydraulic fuel pumps that keep
positive pressure on our fuel lines. So
that way our engines don't run into some
kind of dual engine failure after a
takeoff. Which, mind you, when we see
this aircraft takeoff, which we now have
higher definition footage of the
aircraft takeoff. Initially, we had
pretty grainy footage. We now have
higher definition footage of not only
the takeoff, but also the crash. We
don't see what is characteristic of an
engine flame out suggesting that the
aircraft hit birds. We don't see birds.
We don't see any kind of destruction to
the engines. Instead, it looks like the
aircraft simply lost lift. And there are
reports now, although we don't have the
air traffic control data yet, there are
reports that before impact, the pilots
issued a Mayday call and stated no
power, no thrust. So, what could
potentially or how could vapor lock
potentially contribute to this? Well, in
my opinion, and this is how we piece
together the facts. I'll give you my
opinions right after the facts. We know
that this aircraft took off at 1338.
That's in the afternoon. It's 1:38 p.m.
The temperature at the time of takeoff
was between 102 and 104 degrees. The air
condition was not operating inside the
aircraft at the time the aircraft was
sitting on the tarmac, which means you
have an aircraft that's heating up. It
means you have fuel lines that are
heating up. It means you have an
aircraft that's in a very warm
configuration for takeoff and
potentially upon takeoff we notice that
the landing gear is still down on the
aircraft. Is it potentially possible
that at the time of takeoff we had a
dual hydraulic failure which led to the
inability to raise the gear which then
turned into a loss of positive fuel
pressure to both the number one and the
number two engine.
With that loss of positive pressure at
the same time as a tilt up of the
aircraft, we would have less suction
sort of gravity suction if you will from
uh the the more gravityfed pumps uh
inside well the the non they're not
really pumps uh the the sort of
gravityfed uh fuel lines inside of the
aircraft. You would have had less
positive pressure from gravity because
the plane is tilted up. At the same time
as the potential that you could lead air
bubbles in fuel lines to move through
the fuel system thanks to the nose up
attitude of the aircraft during takeoff
leading to a simultaneous dual engine
failure.
Now to me this pieces together a lot of
the puzzle. We know it was a very hot
day. We know the aircraft was sitting on
the ground without air conditioning
leading to the likelihood that inside
the aircraft all components of the
aircraft were heat soaked absolutely
heat locked in a condition where it's
highly likely would have we would have
had vapor in the fuel lines. That would
not ordinarily be an issue though. It
would not ordinarily be an issue to take
off in a hot configuration because you
have hydraulic powering powering fuel
pumps to where you don't actually need
to worry about vapor lock. You don't
need sensors to worry about vapor lock
because you have hydraulic pumps and
fuel pumps that are operating the other
systems of your aircraft. However, if
upon takeoff you suddenly have a dual
hydraulic failure
that shuts down the number one and
number two fuel pumps at the same time
as being unable to remove the uh drag of
your landing gear, which is also a
potential symptom that the landing gear
hydraulics weren't functioning since we
need hydraulics to be able to uh operate
the landing gear. Then we could be in a
place where upon takeoff we had a dual
hydraulic failure which led to the
failure to lift off our landing gear
which led to the simultaneous then
lack of positive fuel pressure to the
engines. Now we feed from sump pumps or
gravity pumps. Basically just sort of uh
the natural flow of fuel inside of the
aircraft without positive pressure which
amplifies the impact of vapor inside
fuel lines leading potentially to the
bang sound that reportedly were heard.
Not only did a survivor of this
incident, which is absolutely remarkable
that somebody survived this incident,
report a loud bang, but others are
reporting that this loud bang was heard
on the ground. Some people attribute
this bang to the deployment of the rare
ram air turbine. I I don't I've never
seen the deployment of the ram air
turbine lead to a loud bang, but a
compressor stall or some form of
compressor surge potentially because of
dual vapor lock shutting off both
engines could cause this. So think about
the sequence of events how this could
happen here. The plane's on the ground
for 2 to 3 hours in 102 to 104°
temperatures.
The plane has no air conditioning or
cooling occurring on the ground inside
of the aircraft leading to potential
heat soaking of all of the systems
including the fuel lines in the
aircraft. Upon takeoff, we have a
simultaneous hydraulic failure leading
to the failure to be able to lift the
gear. Because by now we should see the
sequence of the gear going up begin to
activate. I'll show you that in just a
moment. Then what we end up with is a
vapor lock situation thanks to the nose
high attitude during takeoff which
allows vapor to move up. Think about it.
If you turn a water bottle, the water
goes up to the top leading to less fuel
pressure for those engines. a dual
engine failure thanks to a failure of
the hydraulic pumps and vapor lock. Now
we have the drag of the gear. We do not
have enough altitude to escape the
situation. We have flaps deployed based
on the debris on the floor at the proper
setting. So we're not concerned about a
flap issue here. We get the deployment
of the ram air turbine because of this
not only hydraulic failure but also
engine failure. and we're way too low
for the Ramber turbine to restart these
engines because these engines are going
to take way too long to start. And so
here could be a case of hydraulic pump
failure leading to vapor lock and a
failure that is not a pilot's fault.
Instead, it could be a ground management
concern where originally, you know, when
we get these sort of video videos, a lot
of people were sending me videos of the
failure of the air condition to be on on
the ground. But usually those systems
are independent, right? In fact, a lot
of pilots when we take off, they turn
the air conditioning off for takeoff
because they want all the power for
those engines so we can gain as much
altitude as possible, as quickly as
possible. But the fact that people are
fanning themselves potentially for hours
on the ground really could lead to that
heat soak condition in an aircraft. Now
something to know about uh Air India
flights is there have been cases before
in in other flights where you see this
sort of con condensing or water dripping
down inside of the aircraft because the
air conditioning systems can't handle
the heat in India. And so this is a
potential air conditioning maintenance
issue which leads to an overheated
condition inside of the aircraft leading
to some kind of fuel fault inside of the
aircraft. Now there is speculation as
well and there are rumors as well uh
that have been posted and it's it's hard
to give credence to some of these
because we just don't know. But there is
there are screenshots of people leaving
comments saying that they have flown
this aircraft. We can't obviously verify
that from a comment. And this comment
that I saw, I don't want to show it up
on screen because I don't want to point
out this person's, you know, username or
whatever, but there are comments, there
are screenshots of a YouTube comment
circulating where somebody says they
have piloted this aircraft and they've
had single engine failures on this
aircraft before and that Air India
doesn't provide the proper maintenance
for these systems, whether it's
hydraulic or otherwise. Now, we don't
know if that's true. It could be a
failure of Boeing. It could be a failure
of unfortunately the Swiss cheese model
lining up where unfortunately you had a
hydraulic failure combined with severe
heat in India a lack of cooling ground
delays and everything lining up to lead
to a vapor lock condition where Boeings
generally you don't have vapor lock
sensors because you have hydraulic pumps
that are working so it's not an issue
that you have to worry about. Now,
nobody that I've seen has mentioned this
so far. And this is why I think this is
very interesting. Captain Steve at the
end of his, "Wow, the Ram Air turbine
changes everything video appropriately
says this looks like it was a dual
engine failure." And I agree. I think
this was a dual engine failure, but I
think it was a dual engine failure
caused in part by the failure uh of the
hydraulic pumps uh and a heat soaked
plane which finally combines with what
we see with that interior footage of the
aircraft. Now I want to show you a real
takeoff here in a jet and I want you to
see the normal sequence here on takeoff.
It is. There are still some people
arguing that is possible that they just
forgot to lift the gear. I find this
highly highly unlikely. As somebody
who's gone through extensive training uh
and it's I still learn every day uh in
these aircraft.
People don't forget to raise the gear
and it's really hard to mess up the gear
and the flaps in an aircraft in a jet.
Uh, in this case, our gear handle uh is
up here. It happens, but it's relatively
unlikely. Uh, and then our flap settings
are over here. And again, we saw flaps
deployed on the ground. But what I want
you to see is how how quick we take this
gear up. Uh, and so you'll see that on
this takeoff. This is a takeoff out of
uh Heber uh Heber, Utah. Uh, this is a
uh very high elevation airport. So,
while it's not hot, it's high elevation.
So, high density altitude, less lift,
much like what you also get in a high
heat situation like what happened uh
likely in this Air India situation since
the temperatures were 102 to 104 out
there. But I want you to see how quickly
we go for this this gear retraction just
so you can see it from a different
angle. And we're going to leave the
flaps in until about 1,000 ft above the
field here. Uh to to maintain as much
lift as we can for as long as possible,
especially since we're since we're in a
mountainous terrain. We're in a We're
basically in this bowl here. And I
manually right turned this to do a
visual climb over the airport to get out
to the south. This is a non-towered
airport. So here's the takeoff. Happy
Sunday.
22 on the pavement. Heading degrees.
Here we go. I have no traffic here. So
yeah, you're you're clear. Let's do it.
Okay, we did our takeoff. Okay, lights
are good. Everything's good. Takeoff
checks complete. Here we go. All right.
Ready? Yeah. Yeah, I'd probably do a
little static, too. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Here we go. Takeoff tower set. All
right, ATR's in the green.
Okay, brakes off. All right, your
speed's live. Check. Three ways. 6,000
to go.
70. Check.
on rotate.
You're up. That's right. There's the
gear. We get to 400, we'll do flaps.
Yep. I guess we're at 400 over on this
one.
All right, I'm going to call 400 over.
Flaps up. Flaps up. Gear up. Flap up.
I misremembered. We said 400 over.
Obviously, we had previously established
that in this case, but what's
interesting is you can see how quickly
we go for that gear up flap up. Uh
mostly that gear up very first thing.
Then we wait purposefully for flaps
later. And we've got two pilots here.
So, we're able to verify it like, hey,
then we even do our checklist
afterwards. Gear up, flap up, right? Uh
this is uh you know, this is a uh
ascent out of uh Heber. Uh, another way
you could see or another thing to know
is people have asked, hey, what about
the ram air turbine? You know, you've
got this ram air turbine. Can't you
restart the engine? This in this case,
if you've got the ramar turbine moving,
you know, aren't isn't there a way you
can restart? Problems.
Even if you're able to clear the vapor
lock condition and the ram air turbine
is trying to help you get your hydraulic
power back, engines take quite a while
to start on the ground. Uh, I would say
when we especially if it's hot on a hot
day, it's it's actually surprisingly
slow to start these engines. On a hot
day, so like a Vegas day, if we go to
start these engines, I might say, "Okay,
uh, you know, engine start, we clear
right, whatever." We go for an engine
start, it'll probably take about 45
seconds to a minute before this is
actually at speeds. uh this this jet
engine. Uh unfortunately
the AirIndia flight was only in the air
for somewhere around 45 seconds, maybe
30 seconds of flight. I took off at
13:38, so 1:38 p.m. uh and then crashed
at 1:38 p.m. So anyway, this gives us a
little bit of a potential here on the
Air India flight. It does look like
again flaps were appropriately set. It
does look like uh although we'll have to
verify once we get more data. This is
just from crash footage that we can
tell. So obviously there's speculation
involved here and we have to be careful
about how we're putting pieces of the
puzzle together. But to me when we put
the pieces of the puzzle together, the
loud bang that we heard was likely to me
the stall of the engines. Right? So this
is the stall slash the engine fail that
you hear whether it's a compressor surge
uh and then the uh uh you know the
essentially the flame well you don't get
a flame out here but but the shutdown of
the engines. You've got hot which
increases the conditions for vapor lock.
We've got time on tarmac. We've got two
to three hours on the tarmac. We've got
the gear staying up, which suggests
a hydraulic failure. Vapor lock also can
occur and be most devastating on a
hydraulic failure. The loss of lift
supports the idea of an engine failure.
And we don't believe that birds or the
flaps were necessarily an issue here. I
also believe that even if even if the
flaps were retracted slightly early with
both of the engines still on, this
aircraft should have been able to climb
out of this condition. So that's my
opinion on the Air India 171 crash. I'm
surprised we haven't heard Vaporlock
mentioned from anyone else, but I'd be
curious to see what other people's
perspectives are on this. I'm going to
look at some uh comments here. Somebody
here writes uh uh you know, what is the
rat? Yes, but the black box has been
recovered. The rat is the ram air
turbine. It's a little propeller that uh
aids in providing hydraulic pressure to
hydraulic systems that have failed or
give you an opportunity to restart the
engines of the aircraft. The rammer
turbine also has a very distinct sound
when it is dep when it's deployed and is
very consistent with the audio that we
hear of the Air India accident. So, for
example, if we jump over to Bronco,
Bronco has has a fantastic um comparison
of what the Ram Air Turbine sounds like.
And I'll go ahead and play a clip from
his video. It's Friday, the 13th of
June. My name's Juan Brown. You're
watching the Blancio. You'll see this
right here in the mountain here.
Listen for the sound of the propeller.
That's it. You could see that ram air
turbine.
I'll pause
right here. Some people are associating
the bang with the deployment of the ram
air turbine. I don't think so. I think
that was the sound of the engines
failing.
And then listen to the air propellers on
our husk.
Did you hear that very distinctive sound
of the rat?
It sounds like one of the uh Here's the
audio from the crash.
into this. So there you go. Some of my
thoughts on what happened with the Air
India accident. Thanks for watching the
segment on the Air India accident.
Hopefully uh whatever lessons are
learned from this accident can prevent
future accidents. Why not advertise
these things that you told us here? I
feel like nobody else knows about this.
We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes. Congratulations, man.
You have done so much. People love you.
People look up to you. Kevin Praat
there, financial analyst and YouTuber.
Meet Kevin. Always great to get your
take.
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