Prepare for THIS Imminent Danger.
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hey everyone me kevin here in this video
we're going to talk about exactly what
to prepare for for earnings season i'm
going to go through a few examples
explain to you what i'm looking for and
at the end i'm going to be talking about
some specific stocks the first thing
that we want to do is we want to go from
a strategy of sell everything into a
hunt for opportunity this is really
important because the biggest downside
of selling is trying to figure out when
to re-buy and most people unfortunately
who sell never end up rebuying and
substantially end up regretting that
decision so trying to determine when to
rebuy is very very important and
actually rebuying is very very important
the challenge that we have now is that
we have what is expected to be an
earnings recession ahead of us this is
simply put just when we actually see
earnings for companies decline rather
than just the stock prices of companies
that decline this is a very big
difference right we could see for
example example apple transition from
180 dollars per share to
140 dollars per share so we have a share
price decline the co the company is
being valued at a smaller multiple
but if now earnings also decline and
back when we were at 180 dollars
let's just say for example the company
gave us nine dollars of annual earnings
or about five percent what if all of a
sudden at 140 rather than giving us five
percent or seven dollars the company is
actually only giving us
five dollars and that could potentially
lead to more compression of the actual
price because we're getting less bang
for our buck so to speak right and so
this creates a hunt and it's going to
create a hunt prioritized in my opinion
by a few things and these are the things
that i want to show you because so far
the market and this is what this chart
shows hasn't yet actually priced in an
earnings recession the blue line
represents the decline of sort of the
blue upside down mountains represents a
decline in prices these are declines in
stock prices this year in the 2008
recession this in the dot-com bubble and
over here where we are now the white
line represents a decline in actual
earnings per share and you could see
that these earnings per share estimates
from analysts haven't yet come down so
what are we going to be looking for well
in my opinion a few things first we're
probably going to be looking away from
companies that are super highly indebted
and the reason for that is as interest
rates go up and these debts have to be
refinanced earnings per share that are
already expected to go down could go
down even more and you look at some of
the world's biggest borrowers you see
names like toyota volkswagen the auto
manufacturers have definitely come under
stress recently at t verizon deutsche
telekom which is like t-mobile
mercedes-benz and comcast you see these
companies with massive debts but it's
not just these
it's also the cruise lines take a look
for example here this is carnival and
you can see the orange bar represents
how much these companies have borrowed
during the pandemic and then the green
bars over here represent how much in the
future is coming due which coming due is
just a fancy way of saying how much of
this debt has to be paid off when and
you could see that hey maybe we're good
through 2023 but all of a sudden our
debt payoff is going to double in an
environment where interest rates are
substantially higher and don't even get
me started with what happens after 2025.
the same is true of royal caribbean and
the same is true over here at norwegian
cruise lines and so debt i think is
going to be something really really
critical that companies are going to or
investors are going to look at and are
going to evaluate as a primary indicator
of okay how long do we think these
companies can actually or can they at
all survive with remote earnings at all
going through a potential earnings
recession because again remember an
earnings recession represents income or
top line revenue going down and when
income goes down then obviously the
bottom line goes down but if in addition
to income going down
you also have costs
let's say higher interest rates pushing
up higher wages pushing up costs even
though we might see some declines in oil
and energy prices you still have sticky
wages and you still have lower margins
essentially what happens to your bottom
line it continues to go down more and so
these are companies that could end up
getting really pained going forward so
we want to pay attention to companies
with high debt even though these cruise
lines we look at them now or some other
companies we look at and we say wow
these companies they seem like they've
gotten really really cheap we want to be
very very careful of companies highly
indebted and so this is where if you
look at for example tech companies
amazon actually ranks up there in the
companies as one of the companies that
has a substantial amount of debt but so
does apple the difference here though is
we can do something known as looking at
debt to market cap to try to understand
okay how does let's say google
compared to amazon so this is pretty
simple to do if we just type into google
amazon
stock
and we can see that the amazon stock
debt is or their total market cap rather
is 1.6 trillion dollars that's for
amazon and then let's go ahead and look
at apple as well let's see what the
apple market cap is and then we'll
compare the same thing to google apple
is at
2.43 that's aapl and then google for
example
google in terms of their market cap
sits at
1.43
now what we can do is we can go back to
that chart that showed us the debt of
these companies and we could see that
amazon trades for
roughly their market cap 1.16 divided by
0.14 140 billion dollars in debt trades
for roughly
eight times their debt you could look at
a company like apple which has about 120
billion and it has a market cap of 2.43
divide that out and you can see that
apple actually trades for 20 times their
debt and you want a bigger number here
because that means you have less debt as
a percentage of market cap right
and then google for example
at 1.43
trades for just with about
see we've got about
35. five
they trade at just about
there we go
40 times look at that so you can see the
substantial difference
in the level at which these companies
trade compared to their debt and again
here the higher number is more desirable
because it means you have less expenses
but it's not just this total debt figure
that we want to look at we also want to
look at things like cash flow because
ultimately if you can have a high cash
flow while still having a lot of debt
then maybe your debt isn't that big of a
deal because maybe you have high margins
right high margins mean you're making
more money on uh your your sales and so
instead of looking at this debt page
let's jump on over here
and look at free cash flow and what's
fascinating here is you can see that
apple and google rank really high on
that free cash flow level
and amazon ranks really really low right
here next to intel and ibm and oracle
and so this really puts a highlighter on
a company like apple or google who are
substantially separated from the amount
of debt they have and have a substantial
amount of free cash flow
which kind of aligns with that debt
chart we saw here where amazon had the
most debt compared to the smaller market
cap very interesting so these things are
going to be very important going into
the next earnings cycle especially as we
look at q2 earnings so what are you
going to want to look for when you look
at q2 earnings well in my opinion you're
going to want to look for exactly the
following the first thing you want to
look at obviously is the revenue growth
of companies really important and this
is a transition we're going to go
through we want to look at what we now
call real revenue growth see nike had
negative one percent year-over-year
growth that means they lost one percent
well now if you subtract inflation it's
actually almost like they
they shrank to the tune of seven percent
or actually no sorry negative one minus
about eight percent inflation actually
means they grew by negative nine percent
which means they shrunk by nine percent
crazy right so we're going to want to
see revenue growth at companies but
we're also going to want to continue to
see that free cash flow which you don't
see at companies that are losing money
and i think companies that are losing
money while those could be great trades
when we go back to like risk on when
people are like yeah we're going to the
moon
companies that are losing money can move
very very quickly like a lemonade or a
firm or even matterport for this year
but for q2 we're going to be looking at
real revenue growth combined with free
cash flow and a big separation between
how much debt the company has and what
the company's actually selling for when
i see a big separation between that
again amazon i had the smallest
separation compared to apple and google
and the lowest amount of free cash flow
this is why some people say that the way
amazon is priced in the market right now
is that you're really just paying for
amazon web services that that's what
you're paying for and you're actually
getting the retail division that is
amazon.com totally for free now what's
remarkable about that is you're either
getting a good deal on the company that
is you're getting a sas business with a
retail business totally for free or
you're getting a sas business with an
anchor of the retail business which
continues to burn money because it's
hard to make money in retail so that's
all really important to know about
regarding the earnings season coming up
and how we're going through a transition
how we're going away from solely being
fearful about inflation and actually
moving into looking at these financials
a little bit more and trying to start
finding stocks that are looking a little
bit more valuable as in companies that
have gotten discounted because multiples
have come down but which companies can
still have real earnings of growth
without having too much debt that's
syncing them now before we talk about
the next thing we got to talk about this
series a at the beginning of august i'm
launching a series a it's a new company
that's being created it'll be a
combination of sort of real estate meets
sas meets investing be very very cool
and this isn't a solicitation for you to
invest or anything this is just to say
that the first folks who will have the
opportunity to invest in this company at
a superb valuation actually it'll be a
one-to-one valuation uh for early
investors will be course members so any
of those of you who are in the courses
on building your wealth linked down
below whether it's stocks or real estate
or property management youtube you name
it any other programs on helping you
build your wealth and make more money if
you're a member of any of those programs
you will have first dibs at investing in
the series a which though will be a
limited opportunity for folks to invest
in and we are closing that once we get
to a specific threshold of raise and
that's it probably won't raise again no
guarantees until ipo and again this
isn't here to solicit you it is just to
mention that this is coming and then
after we have our first week of august
launch for course members and we go
through august maybe in september if we
still need to or if there's extra
capacity we'll open it up to any viewer
on youtube so check that out linked down
below any of the courses will get you
access so how does this apply to some
specific stocks well unfortunately when
it comes to margins i think tesla has a
little bit of downside ahead of it in
the next earnings release which comes
out on july 20th which is in two days in
fact because shanghai which is its
highest profit margin factory was closed
for a substantial portion of the second
quarter i'm not looking forward to
margins over at tesla in this quarter
and i'm kind of worried about what's
going to happen to tesla stock though it
could be a buying opportunity now apple
has had sort of the reverse happen to it
apple had really really bad expectations
that there were going to be massive
misses due to substantial increases in
cost to the tunes uh to the tune of over
eight billion dollars and so there are
substantial headwinds kind of already
baked into apple's price and so the hope
is that hey
even though over at tesla
we expect that deliveries are going to
be lower which we already know what
deliveries are going to be we expect the
lower deliveries we're worried that
margins are going to be low here at
apple we're going in and that's the
surprise is margins coming in low here
we're going in expecting a monetary hit
but margins therefore to be pained and
if we now come and get earnings and we
see that wait a minute margins actually
weren't as bad we could see some upside
to apples that's something to pay
attention to here margins although for
both of these companies i expect any
kind of margin result to be temporary
now then you look at a company like
procter gamble personally i'm not super
optimistic about a company like procter
gamble because in their last earnings
report they talked about how consumers
really weren't transitioning to cheaper
products yet and that they were still
spending and this was based on january
february and march that is for example
they were still spending on brand names
rather than store brands that's like
getting the planters peanuts versus the
archers farms or the kirkland at costco
or getting the gillette razors versus
the store brand ones i think we're going
to see a transition in this market and
that's going to actually hurt margins at
procter gamble jp morgan just reported
and we saw that they took an elevated
amount of loan loss reserves but that
really only represented an increase
because they've done more lending and so
even though they've taken more of a loan
loss reserve that was really just a
result of lending more not necessarily a
result of more fear in the economy so if
more fear and more recessionary fear
gets priced into markets financials i
think still have some downside if we do
end up seeing that inflation is
transitory that downside will become a
quick upside
personally in terms of commodities it's
as much as it's wonderful that companies
like occidental are taking extra income
that they're able to receive from
higher oil and gas prices and they're
taking this money to pay down their debt
which is what all companies should be
doing
the days of expensive oil are gone so
while i think that we have maybe one or
two quarters left of happiness i think
once we get another three quarters out
we're going to start seeing some pain at
companies like occidental petroleum
because all of a sudden i expect oil
prices to go back down to that 70 to 80
dollar range if not even lower and all
of a sudden they're still going to
realize crap we spent some money to pay
down our debt
but
the glory days are now behind us and
then what we'll likely see is a momentum
drift away from these companies and
potentially prices come down where i do
think even though there is still some
more upside for the us dollar which
creates somewhere between a seven to
twelve percent risk i do think there's
some potential and potentially a company
like well it's not a company it's an etf
it's an inverse etf called udn and this
is shorting the dollar because at some
point when inflation does rotate down
the dollar is likely to fall with it if
the dollar falls with it udn is likely
to go up so these are just some thoughts
in terms of what to expect going forward
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