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Prepare for THIS Imminent Danger.

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hey everyone me kevin here in this video

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we're going to talk about exactly what

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to prepare for for earnings season i'm

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going to go through a few examples

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explain to you what i'm looking for and

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at the end i'm going to be talking about

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some specific stocks the first thing

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that we want to do is we want to go from

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a strategy of sell everything into a

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hunt for opportunity this is really

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important because the biggest downside

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of selling is trying to figure out when

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to re-buy and most people unfortunately

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who sell never end up rebuying and

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substantially end up regretting that

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decision so trying to determine when to

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rebuy is very very important and

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actually rebuying is very very important

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the challenge that we have now is that

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we have what is expected to be an

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earnings recession ahead of us this is

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simply put just when we actually see

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earnings for companies decline rather

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than just the stock prices of companies

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that decline this is a very big

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difference right we could see for

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example example apple transition from

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180 dollars per share to

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140 dollars per share so we have a share

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price decline the co the company is

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being valued at a smaller multiple

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but if now earnings also decline and

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back when we were at 180 dollars

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let's just say for example the company

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gave us nine dollars of annual earnings

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or about five percent what if all of a

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sudden at 140 rather than giving us five

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percent or seven dollars the company is

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actually only giving us

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five dollars and that could potentially

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lead to more compression of the actual

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price because we're getting less bang

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for our buck so to speak right and so

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this creates a hunt and it's going to

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create a hunt prioritized in my opinion

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by a few things and these are the things

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that i want to show you because so far

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the market and this is what this chart

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shows hasn't yet actually priced in an

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earnings recession the blue line

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represents the decline of sort of the

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blue upside down mountains represents a

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decline in prices these are declines in

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stock prices this year in the 2008

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recession this in the dot-com bubble and

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over here where we are now the white

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line represents a decline in actual

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earnings per share and you could see

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that these earnings per share estimates

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from analysts haven't yet come down so

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what are we going to be looking for well

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in my opinion a few things first we're

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probably going to be looking away from

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companies that are super highly indebted

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and the reason for that is as interest

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rates go up and these debts have to be

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refinanced earnings per share that are

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already expected to go down could go

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down even more and you look at some of

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the world's biggest borrowers you see

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names like toyota volkswagen the auto

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manufacturers have definitely come under

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stress recently at t verizon deutsche

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telekom which is like t-mobile

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mercedes-benz and comcast you see these

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companies with massive debts but it's

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not just these

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it's also the cruise lines take a look

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for example here this is carnival and

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you can see the orange bar represents

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how much these companies have borrowed

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during the pandemic and then the green

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bars over here represent how much in the

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future is coming due which coming due is

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just a fancy way of saying how much of

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this debt has to be paid off when and

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you could see that hey maybe we're good

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through 2023 but all of a sudden our

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debt payoff is going to double in an

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environment where interest rates are

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substantially higher and don't even get

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me started with what happens after 2025.

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the same is true of royal caribbean and

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the same is true over here at norwegian

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cruise lines and so debt i think is

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going to be something really really

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critical that companies are going to or

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investors are going to look at and are

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going to evaluate as a primary indicator

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of okay how long do we think these

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companies can actually or can they at

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all survive with remote earnings at all

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going through a potential earnings

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recession because again remember an

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earnings recession represents income or

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top line revenue going down and when

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income goes down then obviously the

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bottom line goes down but if in addition

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to income going down

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you also have costs

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let's say higher interest rates pushing

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up higher wages pushing up costs even

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though we might see some declines in oil

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and energy prices you still have sticky

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wages and you still have lower margins

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essentially what happens to your bottom

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line it continues to go down more and so

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these are companies that could end up

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getting really pained going forward so

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we want to pay attention to companies

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with high debt even though these cruise

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lines we look at them now or some other

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companies we look at and we say wow

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these companies they seem like they've

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gotten really really cheap we want to be

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very very careful of companies highly

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indebted and so this is where if you

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look at for example tech companies

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amazon actually ranks up there in the

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companies as one of the companies that

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has a substantial amount of debt but so

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does apple the difference here though is

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we can do something known as looking at

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debt to market cap to try to understand

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okay how does let's say google

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compared to amazon so this is pretty

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simple to do if we just type into google

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amazon

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stock

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and we can see that the amazon stock

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debt is or their total market cap rather

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is 1.6 trillion dollars that's for

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amazon and then let's go ahead and look

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at apple as well let's see what the

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apple market cap is and then we'll

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compare the same thing to google apple

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is at

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2.43 that's aapl and then google for

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example

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google in terms of their market cap

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sits at

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1.43

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now what we can do is we can go back to

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that chart that showed us the debt of

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these companies and we could see that

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amazon trades for

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roughly their market cap 1.16 divided by

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0.14 140 billion dollars in debt trades

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for roughly

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eight times their debt you could look at

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a company like apple which has about 120

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billion and it has a market cap of 2.43

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divide that out and you can see that

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apple actually trades for 20 times their

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debt and you want a bigger number here

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because that means you have less debt as

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a percentage of market cap right

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and then google for example

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at 1.43

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trades for just with about

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see we've got about

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35. five

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they trade at just about

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there we go

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40 times look at that so you can see the

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substantial difference

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in the level at which these companies

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trade compared to their debt and again

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here the higher number is more desirable

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because it means you have less expenses

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but it's not just this total debt figure

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that we want to look at we also want to

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look at things like cash flow because

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ultimately if you can have a high cash

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flow while still having a lot of debt

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then maybe your debt isn't that big of a

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deal because maybe you have high margins

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right high margins mean you're making

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more money on uh your your sales and so

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instead of looking at this debt page

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let's jump on over here

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and look at free cash flow and what's

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fascinating here is you can see that

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apple and google rank really high on

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that free cash flow level

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and amazon ranks really really low right

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here next to intel and ibm and oracle

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and so this really puts a highlighter on

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a company like apple or google who are

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substantially separated from the amount

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of debt they have and have a substantial

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amount of free cash flow

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which kind of aligns with that debt

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chart we saw here where amazon had the

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most debt compared to the smaller market

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cap very interesting so these things are

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going to be very important going into

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the next earnings cycle especially as we

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look at q2 earnings so what are you

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going to want to look for when you look

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at q2 earnings well in my opinion you're

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going to want to look for exactly the

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following the first thing you want to

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look at obviously is the revenue growth

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of companies really important and this

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is a transition we're going to go

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through we want to look at what we now

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call real revenue growth see nike had

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negative one percent year-over-year

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growth that means they lost one percent

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well now if you subtract inflation it's

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actually almost like they

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they shrank to the tune of seven percent

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or actually no sorry negative one minus

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about eight percent inflation actually

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means they grew by negative nine percent

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which means they shrunk by nine percent

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crazy right so we're going to want to

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see revenue growth at companies but

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we're also going to want to continue to

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see that free cash flow which you don't

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see at companies that are losing money

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and i think companies that are losing

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money while those could be great trades

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when we go back to like risk on when

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people are like yeah we're going to the

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moon

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companies that are losing money can move

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very very quickly like a lemonade or a

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firm or even matterport for this year

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but for q2 we're going to be looking at

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real revenue growth combined with free

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cash flow and a big separation between

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how much debt the company has and what

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the company's actually selling for when

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i see a big separation between that

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again amazon i had the smallest

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separation compared to apple and google

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and the lowest amount of free cash flow

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this is why some people say that the way

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amazon is priced in the market right now

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is that you're really just paying for

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amazon web services that that's what

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you're paying for and you're actually

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getting the retail division that is

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amazon.com totally for free now what's

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remarkable about that is you're either

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getting a good deal on the company that

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is you're getting a sas business with a

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retail business totally for free or

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you're getting a sas business with an

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anchor of the retail business which

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continues to burn money because it's

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hard to make money in retail so that's

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all really important to know about

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regarding the earnings season coming up

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and how we're going through a transition

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how we're going away from solely being

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fearful about inflation and actually

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moving into looking at these financials

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a little bit more and trying to start

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finding stocks that are looking a little

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bit more valuable as in companies that

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have gotten discounted because multiples

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have come down but which companies can

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still have real earnings of growth

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without having too much debt that's

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syncing them now before we talk about

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the next thing we got to talk about this

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series a at the beginning of august i'm

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launching a series a it's a new company

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that's being created it'll be a

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combination of sort of real estate meets

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sas meets investing be very very cool

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and this isn't a solicitation for you to

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invest or anything this is just to say

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that the first folks who will have the

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opportunity to invest in this company at

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a superb valuation actually it'll be a

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one-to-one valuation uh for early

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investors will be course members so any

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of those of you who are in the courses

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on building your wealth linked down

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below whether it's stocks or real estate

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or property management youtube you name

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it any other programs on helping you

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build your wealth and make more money if

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you're a member of any of those programs

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you will have first dibs at investing in

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the series a which though will be a

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limited opportunity for folks to invest

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in and we are closing that once we get

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to a specific threshold of raise and

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that's it probably won't raise again no

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guarantees until ipo and again this

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isn't here to solicit you it is just to

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mention that this is coming and then

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after we have our first week of august

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launch for course members and we go

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through august maybe in september if we

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still need to or if there's extra

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capacity we'll open it up to any viewer

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on youtube so check that out linked down

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below any of the courses will get you

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access so how does this apply to some

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specific stocks well unfortunately when

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it comes to margins i think tesla has a

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little bit of downside ahead of it in

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the next earnings release which comes

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out on july 20th which is in two days in

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fact because shanghai which is its

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highest profit margin factory was closed

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for a substantial portion of the second

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quarter i'm not looking forward to

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margins over at tesla in this quarter

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and i'm kind of worried about what's

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going to happen to tesla stock though it

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could be a buying opportunity now apple

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has had sort of the reverse happen to it

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apple had really really bad expectations

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that there were going to be massive

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misses due to substantial increases in

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cost to the tunes uh to the tune of over

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eight billion dollars and so there are

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substantial headwinds kind of already

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baked into apple's price and so the hope

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is that hey

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even though over at tesla

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we expect that deliveries are going to

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be lower which we already know what

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deliveries are going to be we expect the

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lower deliveries we're worried that

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margins are going to be low here at

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apple we're going in and that's the

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surprise is margins coming in low here

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we're going in expecting a monetary hit

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but margins therefore to be pained and

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if we now come and get earnings and we

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see that wait a minute margins actually

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weren't as bad we could see some upside

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to apples that's something to pay

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attention to here margins although for

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both of these companies i expect any

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kind of margin result to be temporary

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now then you look at a company like

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procter gamble personally i'm not super

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optimistic about a company like procter

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gamble because in their last earnings

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report they talked about how consumers

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really weren't transitioning to cheaper

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products yet and that they were still

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spending and this was based on january

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february and march that is for example

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they were still spending on brand names

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rather than store brands that's like

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getting the planters peanuts versus the

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archers farms or the kirkland at costco

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or getting the gillette razors versus

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the store brand ones i think we're going

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to see a transition in this market and

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that's going to actually hurt margins at

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procter gamble jp morgan just reported

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and we saw that they took an elevated

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amount of loan loss reserves but that

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really only represented an increase

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because they've done more lending and so

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even though they've taken more of a loan

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loss reserve that was really just a

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result of lending more not necessarily a

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result of more fear in the economy so if

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more fear and more recessionary fear

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gets priced into markets financials i

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think still have some downside if we do

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end up seeing that inflation is

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transitory that downside will become a

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quick upside

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personally in terms of commodities it's

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as much as it's wonderful that companies

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like occidental are taking extra income

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that they're able to receive from

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higher oil and gas prices and they're

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taking this money to pay down their debt

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which is what all companies should be

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doing

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the days of expensive oil are gone so

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while i think that we have maybe one or

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two quarters left of happiness i think

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once we get another three quarters out

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we're going to start seeing some pain at

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companies like occidental petroleum

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because all of a sudden i expect oil

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prices to go back down to that 70 to 80

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dollar range if not even lower and all

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of a sudden they're still going to

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realize crap we spent some money to pay

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down our debt

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but

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the glory days are now behind us and

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then what we'll likely see is a momentum

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drift away from these companies and

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potentially prices come down where i do

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think even though there is still some

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more upside for the us dollar which

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creates somewhere between a seven to

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twelve percent risk i do think there's

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some potential and potentially a company

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like well it's not a company it's an etf

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it's an inverse etf called udn and this

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is shorting the dollar because at some

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point when inflation does rotate down

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the dollar is likely to fall with it if

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the dollar falls with it udn is likely

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to go up so these are just some thoughts

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in terms of what to expect going forward

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