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Worst Data JUST Out in 12 Years | 60% Chance of Recession

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well some of the data we got this

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morning just isn't great in this video

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we're going to go through the Richmond

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fed data we're going to go through the

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consumer confidence data and we're going

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to go through some CFO data a lot of

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this some of the worst we've seen in the

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last 12 years keep in mind a lot of

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these start compounding and they

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actually worsen each other and volatile

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up rallies in the stock market are often

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faded in recessionary environment we'll

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see if that happens today this morning

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at a price target of 494 on the qes

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we're basically right there right now so

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we still have that bullish momentum

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moving talked about that with everybody

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who's part of the meetkevin membership

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which you get pretty inexpensively over

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at meetkevin.com but let's focus right

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now first on some of these surveys some

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of them the worst in the last 12 years

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because they could signal some pain

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coming ahead first of all about 60% of

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CFOs according to CNBC are now expecting

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a recession

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but the headline is actually less

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interesting than when you get to the key

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components of the

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article they indicate that between q1

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and Q4 of last year we've actually seen

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about a 10% decline in the level of

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capital expense uh expenses or Capital

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Investments companies expect to make

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this is interesting because what about

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all those companies saying oh we're

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going to invest so much money into the

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United States my unpopular opinion is

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that a lot of these companies are saying

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they're going to make these Investments

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over the next four to 5 years but

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they'll probably skew when they do that

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to maybe 2 years from now to sort of

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that latter 2-year period that way they

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can get through the uncertainty of the

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first period where we sit now on well

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are we going to go into a recession or

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not this at the same time as this

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comment right here CFOs actually expect

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treasury bond yields to remain expensive

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or high between 4 to 5% well this

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increases your cost to borrow for

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Capital expenses in the first place see

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in my opinion one of the best times to

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actually invest in you know building out

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factories is if there's a recession

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there's a panic and rates go to zero

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well now you can borrow very

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inexpensively for your Capital

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expenditures you could still have been

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honest in what you declared you were

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going to do but at these yields it seems

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like you have potential more negative

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weight ahead of you now we've got

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multiple other surveys to hit this

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morning but Bloomberg intelligence this

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morning had a great P where what they

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argued is that as bond yields stay high

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you might actually find more pressure on

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top of the stock market this is not

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uncommon in fact what you usually end up

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finding is the higher rates stay for

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very long periods of time the more

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uncertainty you get especially amongst

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Russell 2000 companies about how long

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they can really survive through some of

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the pain and I think that's where you're

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starting to see some rolling over in the

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consumer confidence uh surveys really

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starting to freak out businesses even

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more I mean consider this for a moment

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the consumer confidence index uh fell to

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fell quite a bit the present conditions

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uh component of it only fell about 3.6

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points not that big of a deal however

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future

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expectations fell to their lowest level

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in 12 years and well below the threshold

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of 80 that usually signals a recession

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ahead well that's not great now what is

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interesting is if you go lower into the

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actual report there's some talk about

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the stock market that I want to point

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out ah right here in November we had

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about 57% of people expecting the stock

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market to continue to go up in the year

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ahead that is now down to only

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37.4% of folks which is very interesting

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because usually the opposite happens you

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end up having

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uh uh you know this enthusiasm over

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stock and when everybody is enthusiastic

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that's your contrarian signal to get out

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and you know markets obviously topped uh

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you soon after this November 2024 survey

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in about the beginning of January now of

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course we could always end up going to

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alltime new Highs but take a look at

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this confidence here because it's

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seeming less confident especially

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amongst those who have actually been

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through recessions before people 55 and

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older and those between 35 and 55 though

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to a lesser extent became significantly

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less confident those who

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were less concerned about the future

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were those under 35 and those households

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earning more than

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$125,000 per year the problem though

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with this expectation signal is that

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often times the Soft Data can end up

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rolling over into the hard data that's

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why when you look over here at this CFO

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report that CFOs suggesting hey you know

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we might end up wanting to spend a

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little bit less money on our Capital

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expenditures because of that consumer

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confidence this these together are the

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leading

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indicators of poopy doopy coming which

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isn't great and when you look at you

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know this is the conference board this

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is a CFO survey from CNBC when you look

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at the University of Michigan report

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which on the St Louis Fred website has

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not updated yet to its nastier

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preliminary data but the preliminary

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data came in at about 64

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which would be around November of 2023

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levels kind of there where my uh it's

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hard for you to see there uh this is

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going to drop about mid-range into this

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white box over here so you're going to

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get a nice little drop if the final

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report comes in the way it did earlier

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in the prelim you can actually notice

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that you you can get rapid declines in

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sentiment at various times in the

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economy and they don't necessarily have

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to turn into a recession but usually

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when sentiment declines below a certain

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threshold you know in the case of this

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chart over here that would be below the

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70 level uh so so this sort of Gray Line

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where my mouse is that's often

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associated with a recession the

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exception over here of 2011 going into

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the Euros sovereign debt crisis and sort

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of this fear of double dip recession uh

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but you ended up getting uh that low

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reading in 2022 this is again where

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people are like n Kevin this is just the

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continuation of the recession we've

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already been in but watch if this ends

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up rolling over tomorrow we'll get some

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consumer durable reports as well that

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said let's go over into our next survey

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here which is the um uh Richmond fed

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index uh that also indicates that

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manufacturing activity slowed this

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morning wasn't too much to get out of

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this beyond that manufacturing activity

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did slow which is somewhat in contrast

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to some of the more positive data that

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we got yesterday but we also this

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morning had the Philly Services report

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that came out so you're getting a lot of

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these reports now over and over again

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where it's it's kind of hard to say oh

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everything's great because everything's

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not necessarily great you are getting

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pain now maybe that's a buying

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opportunity maybe all these surveys will

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flipflop and everything will turn

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positive again uh but what we want to

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pay attention to is what we got right

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here non- manufacturing activity in the

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region continues to decline now this is

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in the Philadelphia region so it's

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localized but the index for General

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activity new orders sales and revenues

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remain negative with the two further

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comp former former uh two declining

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further uh with firms reporting a

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decrease in full-time employment and

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decrease in part-time employment but

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look at the rapidity of that drop over

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here on the right this is why I think

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it's really critical that we start kind

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of getting over this tariff hump here

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because we are at this position where

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we're kind of messing with the economy

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at a time where it probably shouldn't be

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messed with now the stock market doesn't

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always reflect what's going on in the

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underlying economy but a lot of these

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leading surveys could compound into some

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real poopy doopy uh now uh what I would

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pay attention to or some of the data

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sets coming out future here I'm going to

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go through some of them just so you have

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them you can write these down on uh you

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know your calendar or your you know

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sticky note on your desk whatever is

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good for you but what you're going to

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want to watch for is uh the durable good

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orders we get tomorrow at 5:30 a.m.

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California time durable good orders and

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durable X transportations durable good

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orders overall are expected to be netive

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- 1% and X Transportation so removing

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Autos they're actually expected to be

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+2% I want to see if we actually get

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that plus. 2% because if we get negative

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and negative not going to be great same

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thing is true for Capital good orders

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you know are we still going to see this

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AI data set build out continuing you

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know this morning we had a report that

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the chairman of Alibaba suggested that

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data centers are being overbuilt and

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we're we're not matching the building

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we're doing with consumer demand for

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artificial intelligence that yes AI is

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great but we're way overbuilding it this

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is somebody in the industry essentially

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calling a bubble these are warning signs

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because when you have companies saying

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hey we're overbuilding with ooh things

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are uncertain consumers are uncertain

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and maybe we should wait and delay our

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investments that's when everybody starts

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panicking and together you actually

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self- fulfill the recession so these are

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red flags that we want to pay attention

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to uh another thing obviously I mean

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initial claims is such a lagging

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indicator I don't really care about that

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one on Thursday wholesale inventories

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retail inventories we're expecting rises

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in inventories just to sort of pre-stock

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before tariffs not uncommon uh and then

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we have pce coming out on Friday along

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with the final read for March of that

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University of uh Michigan sentiment

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survey it's actually expected to come in

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at

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57.9 which is even lower than you saw on

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that 64 chart from the prelim read so

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you could get a you could get a real you

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know oopsy doopsy slip there on that

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chart when it updates on the St Louis

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Fred website on Wednesday we'll also get

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the Atlanta fed real GDP that should

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update to remove sort of the gold

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Imports uh level so we should see that

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go back to about point my guess would be

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somewhere around 04 well that's what

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their guess was was 04 but my guess is

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probably somewhere around like 0 4 to8

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somewhere in that

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range and then on April 1st we'll be

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getting our jolts reads Dallas

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manufacturing activity ISM Manufacturing

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and prices paids uh the beginning of

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April data will be very interesting to

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see what kind of movement we got in

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March especially with that April 2nd

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deadline looming so anyway this gives

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you a little bit of a look into some of

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the surveys and and movements that are

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going on this morning really appreciate

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you being here and folks we'll see you

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in the next one goodbye and good luck

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why not advertise these things that you

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told us here I feel like nobody else

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knows about this we'll we'll try a

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little advertising and see how it goes

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congratulations man you have done so

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much people love you people look up to

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you Kevin PA there financial analyst and

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YouTuber meet Kevin always great to get

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your take

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