Worst Data JUST Out in 12 Years | 60% Chance of Recession
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well some of the data we got this
morning just isn't great in this video
we're going to go through the Richmond
fed data we're going to go through the
consumer confidence data and we're going
to go through some CFO data a lot of
this some of the worst we've seen in the
last 12 years keep in mind a lot of
these start compounding and they
actually worsen each other and volatile
up rallies in the stock market are often
faded in recessionary environment we'll
see if that happens today this morning
at a price target of 494 on the qes
we're basically right there right now so
we still have that bullish momentum
moving talked about that with everybody
who's part of the meetkevin membership
which you get pretty inexpensively over
at meetkevin.com but let's focus right
now first on some of these surveys some
of them the worst in the last 12 years
because they could signal some pain
coming ahead first of all about 60% of
CFOs according to CNBC are now expecting
a recession
but the headline is actually less
interesting than when you get to the key
components of the
article they indicate that between q1
and Q4 of last year we've actually seen
about a 10% decline in the level of
capital expense uh expenses or Capital
Investments companies expect to make
this is interesting because what about
all those companies saying oh we're
going to invest so much money into the
United States my unpopular opinion is
that a lot of these companies are saying
they're going to make these Investments
over the next four to 5 years but
they'll probably skew when they do that
to maybe 2 years from now to sort of
that latter 2-year period that way they
can get through the uncertainty of the
first period where we sit now on well
are we going to go into a recession or
not this at the same time as this
comment right here CFOs actually expect
treasury bond yields to remain expensive
or high between 4 to 5% well this
increases your cost to borrow for
Capital expenses in the first place see
in my opinion one of the best times to
actually invest in you know building out
factories is if there's a recession
there's a panic and rates go to zero
well now you can borrow very
inexpensively for your Capital
expenditures you could still have been
honest in what you declared you were
going to do but at these yields it seems
like you have potential more negative
weight ahead of you now we've got
multiple other surveys to hit this
morning but Bloomberg intelligence this
morning had a great P where what they
argued is that as bond yields stay high
you might actually find more pressure on
top of the stock market this is not
uncommon in fact what you usually end up
finding is the higher rates stay for
very long periods of time the more
uncertainty you get especially amongst
Russell 2000 companies about how long
they can really survive through some of
the pain and I think that's where you're
starting to see some rolling over in the
consumer confidence uh surveys really
starting to freak out businesses even
more I mean consider this for a moment
the consumer confidence index uh fell to
fell quite a bit the present conditions
uh component of it only fell about 3.6
points not that big of a deal however
future
expectations fell to their lowest level
in 12 years and well below the threshold
of 80 that usually signals a recession
ahead well that's not great now what is
interesting is if you go lower into the
actual report there's some talk about
the stock market that I want to point
out ah right here in November we had
about 57% of people expecting the stock
market to continue to go up in the year
ahead that is now down to only
37.4% of folks which is very interesting
because usually the opposite happens you
end up having
uh uh you know this enthusiasm over
stock and when everybody is enthusiastic
that's your contrarian signal to get out
and you know markets obviously topped uh
you soon after this November 2024 survey
in about the beginning of January now of
course we could always end up going to
alltime new Highs but take a look at
this confidence here because it's
seeming less confident especially
amongst those who have actually been
through recessions before people 55 and
older and those between 35 and 55 though
to a lesser extent became significantly
less confident those who
were less concerned about the future
were those under 35 and those households
earning more than
$125,000 per year the problem though
with this expectation signal is that
often times the Soft Data can end up
rolling over into the hard data that's
why when you look over here at this CFO
report that CFOs suggesting hey you know
we might end up wanting to spend a
little bit less money on our Capital
expenditures because of that consumer
confidence this these together are the
leading
indicators of poopy doopy coming which
isn't great and when you look at you
know this is the conference board this
is a CFO survey from CNBC when you look
at the University of Michigan report
which on the St Louis Fred website has
not updated yet to its nastier
preliminary data but the preliminary
data came in at about 64
which would be around November of 2023
levels kind of there where my uh it's
hard for you to see there uh this is
going to drop about mid-range into this
white box over here so you're going to
get a nice little drop if the final
report comes in the way it did earlier
in the prelim you can actually notice
that you you can get rapid declines in
sentiment at various times in the
economy and they don't necessarily have
to turn into a recession but usually
when sentiment declines below a certain
threshold you know in the case of this
chart over here that would be below the
70 level uh so so this sort of Gray Line
where my mouse is that's often
associated with a recession the
exception over here of 2011 going into
the Euros sovereign debt crisis and sort
of this fear of double dip recession uh
but you ended up getting uh that low
reading in 2022 this is again where
people are like n Kevin this is just the
continuation of the recession we've
already been in but watch if this ends
up rolling over tomorrow we'll get some
consumer durable reports as well that
said let's go over into our next survey
here which is the um uh Richmond fed
index uh that also indicates that
manufacturing activity slowed this
morning wasn't too much to get out of
this beyond that manufacturing activity
did slow which is somewhat in contrast
to some of the more positive data that
we got yesterday but we also this
morning had the Philly Services report
that came out so you're getting a lot of
these reports now over and over again
where it's it's kind of hard to say oh
everything's great because everything's
not necessarily great you are getting
pain now maybe that's a buying
opportunity maybe all these surveys will
flipflop and everything will turn
positive again uh but what we want to
pay attention to is what we got right
here non- manufacturing activity in the
region continues to decline now this is
in the Philadelphia region so it's
localized but the index for General
activity new orders sales and revenues
remain negative with the two further
comp former former uh two declining
further uh with firms reporting a
decrease in full-time employment and
decrease in part-time employment but
look at the rapidity of that drop over
here on the right this is why I think
it's really critical that we start kind
of getting over this tariff hump here
because we are at this position where
we're kind of messing with the economy
at a time where it probably shouldn't be
messed with now the stock market doesn't
always reflect what's going on in the
underlying economy but a lot of these
leading surveys could compound into some
real poopy doopy uh now uh what I would
pay attention to or some of the data
sets coming out future here I'm going to
go through some of them just so you have
them you can write these down on uh you
know your calendar or your you know
sticky note on your desk whatever is
good for you but what you're going to
want to watch for is uh the durable good
orders we get tomorrow at 5:30 a.m.
California time durable good orders and
durable X transportations durable good
orders overall are expected to be netive
- 1% and X Transportation so removing
Autos they're actually expected to be
+2% I want to see if we actually get
that plus. 2% because if we get negative
and negative not going to be great same
thing is true for Capital good orders
you know are we still going to see this
AI data set build out continuing you
know this morning we had a report that
the chairman of Alibaba suggested that
data centers are being overbuilt and
we're we're not matching the building
we're doing with consumer demand for
artificial intelligence that yes AI is
great but we're way overbuilding it this
is somebody in the industry essentially
calling a bubble these are warning signs
because when you have companies saying
hey we're overbuilding with ooh things
are uncertain consumers are uncertain
and maybe we should wait and delay our
investments that's when everybody starts
panicking and together you actually
self- fulfill the recession so these are
red flags that we want to pay attention
to uh another thing obviously I mean
initial claims is such a lagging
indicator I don't really care about that
one on Thursday wholesale inventories
retail inventories we're expecting rises
in inventories just to sort of pre-stock
before tariffs not uncommon uh and then
we have pce coming out on Friday along
with the final read for March of that
University of uh Michigan sentiment
survey it's actually expected to come in
at
57.9 which is even lower than you saw on
that 64 chart from the prelim read so
you could get a you could get a real you
know oopsy doopsy slip there on that
chart when it updates on the St Louis
Fred website on Wednesday we'll also get
the Atlanta fed real GDP that should
update to remove sort of the gold
Imports uh level so we should see that
go back to about point my guess would be
somewhere around 04 well that's what
their guess was was 04 but my guess is
probably somewhere around like 0 4 to8
somewhere in that
range and then on April 1st we'll be
getting our jolts reads Dallas
manufacturing activity ISM Manufacturing
and prices paids uh the beginning of
April data will be very interesting to
see what kind of movement we got in
March especially with that April 2nd
deadline looming so anyway this gives
you a little bit of a look into some of
the surveys and and movements that are
going on this morning really appreciate
you being here and folks we'll see you
in the next one goodbye and good luck
why not advertise these things that you
told us here I feel like nobody else
knows about this we'll we'll try a
little advertising and see how it goes
congratulations man you have done so
much people love you people look up to
you Kevin PA there financial analyst and
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your take
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