TRANSCRIPTEnglish

WORST Data since 2008 *JUST OUT*

15m 40s2,817 words412 segmentsEnglish

FULL TRANSCRIPT

0:00

We just got some bad news on the

0:02

economy. And this is really annoying

0:04

because it feels like one day we get

0:06

good news, then the next day we get bad

0:08

news, then we get good news, then we get

0:10

bad news. And that's actually

0:11

reminiscent of an economy that is in

0:15

transition. The question is, are we at

0:17

2007 levels or 2011 levels of transition

0:22

where we're just sort of like, oh man,

0:25

that was a crazy recession we went

0:26

through in 2011, right? maybe again in

0:29

22 uh until they change the definition.

0:32

Or are we about to go into the pooper

0:34

dupers? Challenger job cuts report that

0:37

just came out this morning indicates

0:39

that layoffs for October were the

0:41

highest since 2003. We need to talk

0:44

about that, but we also need to talk

0:45

about a hidden detail that nobody's

0:47

going to talk about because it's buried

0:49

in the report and it's actually

0:51

potentially more critical. But let's

0:54

look at the headlines first. So

0:56

October's pace of job cutting was much

0:59

higher than average for October. It's

1:01

really odd to see these kind of large

1:03

cuts going into the holiday season. Now,

1:06

of course, Amazon defends this, for

1:08

example, with their layoffs of 14,000,

1:10

which are part of this, obviously, I at

1:12

least presume, uh, by saying, "Oh, well,

1:15

you know, this was just sort of like the

1:16

corporate layer. We're not hire, you

1:18

know, we're not firing people that we

1:20

need in like the seasonal retail

1:22

division. We still want to sell to

1:24

consumers, which I, you know, still

1:25

think is a little questionable. Why not

1:27

then wait till like January or February?

1:29

But whatever. Job cuts surpass 1 million

1:31

for the year, highest total since 2003.

1:35

Mind you, we also have the worst October

1:40

uh not only since 2003, but what you're

1:42

about to see is the worst since 2008. So

1:45

again, I'm kind of like uh uh total job

1:47

cuts for the year are at a million and

1:50

October's pace of job cutting was much

1:51

higher than average for the month. Some

1:53

companies are saying they're correcting

1:55

after the hiring boom after the

1:56

pandemic. But this also comes as AI

1:59

adoption and softer consumer spending

2:01

and corporate spending as well as

2:03

increased costs are leading to belt

2:06

tightening. And I actually like the jade

2:08

here because I I kind of think this

2:10

whole like, oh, we just hired too much

2:12

after the pandemic is a nice excuse

2:14

that's relatable because people are

2:16

like, yeah, it was like there were a lot

2:18

of companies were hiring because it was

2:20

hard to find employees. But let's be

2:22

real, when you've got increases in cost

2:25

from inflation and you've got tariffs,

2:28

somebody's going to take it in the

2:29

margin. And usually it's the

2:31

corporations that go, "Crap, we can only

2:33

take so much." much. I mean, if you look

2:34

at the ISM and PMI reports yesterday, uh

2:37

what you end up finding is the companies

2:39

are saying like, yeah, you know, costs

2:41

are still going up. McDonald's is like

2:43

costs are still going up, but we can't

2:44

pass them on to the consumer because

2:46

people aren't paying. There's no PPE.

2:48

There's no price.

2:51

>> So, this is normal. We expected this to

2:53

happen. Cava, Chipotle, they're all

2:57

getting wrecked. Malls, I mean, these

2:59

are consumer-based. McDonald's is

3:01

complaining about it. Uh McDonald's is

3:04

trying to pitch you a 99 cent coffee

3:06

every day to to compete against

3:08

Starbucks. Starbucks is selling off

3:09

their businesses in China because their

3:11

China bet failed. And this mall I went

3:14

to yesterday, I love this kind of

3:16

research, by the way. I went to this

3:17

mall yesterday. It's called the Thousand

3:18

Oaks Mall. And what was remarkable is

3:22

the business just sold to another

3:24

company. And I looked at the earnings

3:26

call for the company that originally

3:29

owned it, which is ticker symbol MAC, a

3:31

Maul Ree. And I'm like, how come this

3:33

Mully is saying in their earnings call

3:36

that they are 94% occupied when I'm

3:40

like, bro, I'm walking through this, I'm

3:42

like, that's vacant, that's vacant,

3:44

that's vacant. Yeah, we got an

3:46

entertainment, you know, thing that they

3:48

kind of threw in here, which doesn't

3:49

look anywhere as nice or cool as a uh

3:52

Dave and Busters, and it's dead. In

3:54

fairness, it's a Wednesday evening, but

3:56

you kind of go through some of this

3:57

other stuff, you're like, "Oh my gosh,

3:59

that store is vacant right there." You

4:01

walk down, it's like vacancy, vacancy,

4:04

vacancy, vacancy, and you're just like,

4:07

"Bro, what's going on?" I mean, it's no

4:10

surprise malls are dead. Amazonification

4:12

or whatever. But I'm like, "Hey, on your

4:14

earnings report," this was another angle

4:16

from upstairs. On your earnings report,

4:18

Mac, you guys are like, "Oh, yeah, we're

4:19

94% occupied." And I'm going through and

4:21

I'm like, "No, you're not." you know,

4:23

and I'm like, I don't know, may maybe

4:25

maybe the average everywhere else is

4:27

that you're 100% occupied everywhere

4:29

else. So, I go through the earnings call

4:31

and it turns out this business is

4:33

actually selling off their assets with

4:36

the lowest vacancy. So, this particular

4:39

mall was included in their earnings call

4:42

as, oh yeah, we're really grateful we're

4:44

uh disposing of the following assets.

4:46

And they go on to list a bunch of malls

4:48

throughout the country. And I'm like,

4:49

wow, that's how you guys are doing it.

4:51

you guys are paying off debt by dumping

4:53

your crappy malls and letting other

4:55

people try to pick them up and flip

4:57

them. And now I'm looking at the people

4:58

who are trying to flip it, who've owned

5:00

it for, you know, a few months now. And

5:01

I'm like, well,

5:03

this ain't going well. You know, you may

5:05

have you may have thought you were

5:07

getting a good deal. You may have just

5:08

bought the bag. But point is like there

5:12

is true weakness in the consumer. And

5:14

this is why everybody talks about the

5:16

K-shaped recovery, right? And the

5:18

question is like where does this put us

5:20

in the cycle? And this is the part that

5:21

makes me nervous because look at this.

5:24

This is the part that doesn't get the

5:26

headlines. Y'all know AMD just reported

5:28

earnings and right after earnings, the

5:30

stock was down like 4.7% in the after

5:33

hours. It was nuts. Now, so far in the

5:35

overnight, it's recovering and hopefully

5:36

it continues to recover tomorrow. But

5:38

the question is, is it a good buy at

5:40

these prices? And this is where what I

5:42

like to do is jump into investing.com.

5:45

They're a sponsor of the channel and I'm

5:47

super excited about it because if you

5:48

get the investing pro plus subscription,

5:51

you can get a bonus coupon if you use

5:53

code meet Kevin. Just use the link in

5:55

the description down below or scan the

5:56

QR code. You get 55% for the Black

5:59

Friday early bird special plus an extra

6:02

15% when you use my coupon. But here's

6:04

what I love. Number one, I'm going to

6:06

watch EPS revisions after these

6:08

earnings. Okay, AMD only gets like 46%

6:10

of their revenue from data centers.

6:12

Nvidia gets like 88% from data centers.

6:15

So I want to see that data center

6:16

revenue really butter out those opex

6:18

expenses operating expenses at AMD

6:21

increasing their margin which they beat

6:23

topline bottom line margins. So I want

6:25

to see EPS revisions and then I want to

6:27

see this change over time because if I

6:30

take the forward earnings which I can

6:32

get from here which is great and I could

6:33

look at 26 27 28 29 30 I calculate this

6:38

at under a two peg which to me means

6:40

there's more upside for this chip

6:42

designer absent of course a credit

6:44

crisis a liquidity crisis or a labor

6:46

recession. Duh. But these were great

6:48

numbers and the fact that it's selling

6:49

off means maybe there's a buying

6:51

opportunity. But what I encourage you to

6:52

do is explore the functional tools that

6:55

the investing pro membership gives you,

6:57

including the latest insights on the

6:58

actual stock, their Warren AI product to

7:01

help you understand the technical

7:04

momentum indicators and also the

7:06

fundamental facts about the company. You

7:08

can add it to your watch list, track

7:10

those earnings revisions, watch what

7:12

actually happened with earnings, EPS

7:14

beats, revenue beats, you name it.

7:16

Guidance, take it all from

7:18

investing.com. Just use that link in the

7:21

description. Support the channel.

7:22

Support the sponsor of the channel. Go

7:24

to investing.com and sign up for that

7:26

Pro Plus subscription. Use code meet

7:29

Kevin to get an extra 15% off. So,

7:31

thanks again to our sponsor

7:33

investing.com. Earlybird Black Friday.

7:36

Save 55% on the investing pro or pro pro

7:39

plus subscription plus 15 extra% off if

7:44

you use my code meet Kevin. This is the

7:47

part that doesn't get the headlines

7:49

right here. Not only did individual

7:52

companies announce large layoffs in

7:54

October, but a higher number of

7:57

companies announced job cut plans. This

8:01

is actually a red flag that is not going

8:04

to get the headlines. Job cut plans are

8:07

basically like, hey, yeah, like we

8:09

haven't announced uh the job cuts yet,

8:11

the layoffs, but we're going to. And

8:14

Challenger tracks this as well and they

8:16

found that there were nearly 450 job cut

8:20

plans at companies. That's up from 400

8:23

in September and it is the next highest

8:28

level since March which saw 350

8:31

individual job cut plans. The total for

8:34

the month was was the highest you know

8:36

since 2003 which is more than 20 years.

8:40

But October itself had the highest total

8:45

single month in the fourth quarter. So

8:48

this is specifically referring to the

8:49

fourth quarter since 2008.

8:52

So think about this alignment here.

8:54

Okay. Worst total job cuts for October

8:59

since 2003.

9:01

That's this chart right here. Okay. Ding

9:04

number one. Ding number two. worst

9:07

fourth quarter since 2008.

9:11

And remember, we had even worse

9:13

unemployment in 2009 after Lehman

9:16

Brothers collapsed, which is concerning.

9:18

Uh, and then see, they even say here

9:20

over the last decades, companies have

9:23

shied away from announcing layoffs in

9:24

the fourth quarter. So, it's surprising

9:26

to see so many in October. But it's not

9:29

just surprising to see so many in

9:30

October. It's also surprising to see now

9:33

the highest level of announcement plans

9:37

since basically liberation day tariff

9:40

panic and we're talking about a lot more

9:43

450 companies to announce layoffs is a

9:46

28% increase in layoffs to come since

9:50

March. So these numbers are bad.

9:54

technology 33,000. Retail, you know,

9:57

retail, not a surprise that you're not

9:59

seeing as many job cuts here yet. 2,400

10:03

down a little bit from the prior month.

10:05

So far, though, we're still high on

10:08

retail layoffs for the total for the

10:10

year. Uh services sector didn't see that

10:13

many in October. It's actually

10:14

warehousing that really drove a lot of

10:16

numbers in October which suggests quote

10:19

an ongoing overcapacity and

10:22

automationdriven restructuring. Okay, so

10:25

I'm going to give you a play but at this

10:27

point I think this play is getting a

10:28

little expensive but I think robotics

10:31

okay we've been talking about this in

10:32

the course member livereams. Symbotic we

10:35

know this is a play we've been playing

10:36

since 20 bucks. It's absolutely been

10:38

killing it. $4. This is forklift

10:41

robotics for factories like actual

10:44

warehouse automation. There are other

10:46

opportunities that you can get into in

10:47

robotics but look at that robotics

10:50

supply chain. Uh Pterodine is an example

10:52

of a company uh and there are plenty of

10:55

other companies uh that are involved in

10:57

robotics. But look at that robotic

10:59

supply chain. Talk to your AI about the

11:00

robotic supply chain. Uh it's it's

11:02

really impressive I think what

11:03

opportunities are out there. Uh and and

11:05

then you know the cues were absolutely

11:07

phenomenal yesterday. We did have a

11:08

little bit of a sell down into the

11:10

close, but I have to say it was crazy

11:12

crazy that we went from 618 to within 40

11:15

cents of my price target intraday

11:18

yesterday, which is exactly what we

11:20

called in the alpha report yesterday,

11:21

which was remarkable. If you haven't

11:22

joined that yet, go check that out over

11:24

at me.com. But, you know, how do we

11:26

reconcile this with what Nick T tells

11:28

us? Because this is obviously very

11:30

frustrating. And the ADP report, well,

11:32

the ADP report was good, right? Yes, it

11:35

was an above break even ADP report. But

11:40

then again, break evens should be

11:43

including government employment and we

11:47

don't have the numbers for government

11:49

employment because the Bureau of Labor

11:50

Statistics is shut. So, are we getting

11:53

potentially a poor sample of the labor

11:56

market? Yeah. Now, I'm not trying to

11:57

cast shade on the ADP report. I think

11:59

it's one of the best sets of data that

12:01

we have right now. At least it gives us

12:03

some direction. But Nick Tampers

12:07

some of the enthusiasm around the ADP

12:09

report by using the three-month average

12:12

with the 42,000 jobs growth in October

12:15

followed by two months of negative. The

12:18

3month average private sector payroll

12:21

growth would have been negative if it

12:24

weren't for the report that we got this

12:26

week from ADP. This is of course where

12:29

some people say, "Oh, well, you know,

12:30

this is obviously, you know, Donald

12:32

Trump's influence. There's some, you

12:34

know, something shady going on here with

12:36

the numbers." Who knows? I mean, like,

12:41

you know what's sus is that the Federal

12:43

Reserve was getting the weekly payrolls

12:45

data and then all of a sudden Waller

12:48

talks about how we get this weekly

12:49

payrolls data that says things are a

12:51

little soft. And all of a sudden, and we

12:53

don't know this, but we think they may

12:55

have gotten a phone call from the Trump

12:56

administration going, "Why the hell are

12:58

you putting out information that says

12:59

the economy is doing bad?" Then all of a

13:02

sudden, they come out and go, "You know

13:03

what? We're going to stop giving that

13:05

data to the Fed." Two weeks later

13:07

they're like, "You know what? We're just

13:08

going to give that data to everybody."

13:10

And then all of a sudden, it's magically

13:11

good.

13:13

Like, I'm not trying to be jaded on the

13:15

data, but I do like and appreciate that

13:18

Nick T is giving us a three-month moving

13:20

average. And I think this this is a

13:22

reiteration. It's this is like and I

13:25

think this is just the easiest way to

13:27

reconcile it. If you go to meet me

13:28

Kevin.com, I have a bare bull scale. And

13:31

I think that this this is a nice way to

13:34

just sort of see like listen, you know,

13:36

if you're there 10 all in on margin,

13:39

everything's fine. Like there's no risk,

13:41

right? Uh one, you're bearish. Sell

13:43

everything. We're kind of mid-range

13:45

here. And the rationale is earnings are

13:48

good except for that lower consumer uh

13:51

discretionary and and you know foodbased

13:55

side of the economy which is

13:57

unfortunate. A lot of people are

13:58

suffering things are expensive. Uh on

14:01

the flip side earnings at corporations

14:03

are fantastic but at some point the

14:07

consumer's pain shows up in corporate

14:10

earnings. Of course, for now, we've got

14:13

AI propping us up, but now you've got

14:14

Open AI pseudo requesting a bailout from

14:18

the Trump administration. And I'm like,

14:20

what the hell is going on? So, it's

14:24

weird, man, that I will say we are in a

14:27

bizarro environment. And so, it's not a

14:30

surprise we're getting this noisiness.

14:32

And I think for now until this is why I

14:34

say it over and over and over again.

14:36

Okay, the government reopening is going

14:38

to be the next negative catalyst.

14:40

Between now and then I'm more bullish

14:42

catalyst, but once the government

14:44

reopens, I'm negative on reopening. Why?

14:47

Why would I be negative on reopening?

14:49

That's when we actually get that VLS

14:51

data and it might actually show us that

14:53

hey we thought we were at 40K for

14:55

private but if we now get two or three

14:57

months worth of jobs data all in sort of

14:59

one cluster it's going to be like merry

15:01

Christmas we're trending below break

15:03

even and if we're negative on that for a

15:06

new 3 months

15:08

it's not good you know so so the trend

15:12

is at the moment worsening

15:17

we'll see how markets react to it today.

15:19

Thank you so much for watching. I'm

15:21

going to go on vacation now.

15:22

>> Why not advertise these things that you

15:24

told us here? I feel like nobody else

15:25

knows about this.

15:26

>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and

15:27

see how it goes.

15:28

>> Congratulations, man. You have done so

15:30

much. People love you. People look up to

15:31

you.

15:32

>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst

15:34

and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great

15:36

to get your take.

UNLOCK MORE

Sign up free to access premium features

INTERACTIVE VIEWER

Watch the video with synced subtitles, adjustable overlay, and full playback control.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

AI SUMMARY

Get an instant AI-generated summary of the video content, key points, and takeaways.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

TRANSLATE

Translate the transcript to 100+ languages with one click. Download in any format.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

MIND MAP

Visualize the transcript as an interactive mind map. Understand structure at a glance.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

CHAT WITH TRANSCRIPT

Ask questions about the video content. Get answers powered by AI directly from the transcript.

SIGN UP FREE TO UNLOCK

GET MORE FROM YOUR TRANSCRIPTS

Sign up for free and unlock interactive viewer, AI summaries, translations, mind maps, and more. No credit card required.