A Major Economic Indicator JUST FLIPPED **Spoiler: BAD**
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Hey everyone, me Kevin here. In this
video, we're going to cover a bearish
indicator that just turned from yellow
to red. We're going to talk about where
we sit even after the April recovery.
What this indicator usually for stalls,
what it could mean, and I want to give
you a quick update on some of the Trump
tariff numbers. Obviously, we're all
aligning and wait to see what happens
tomorrow with the Chinese negotiation.
My guess is Donald Trump is going to pit
it at a fantastic success and that we
are close to a deal. Well, the reality
is likely that Chinese negotiations are
going to take just as long as they did
in 2018. As history shows, negotiations
took so long in 2018 and throughout
2019, we never actually got a trade
deal. We got a Fed bailout at the end of
2018. Then COVID hit and we still didn't
have a deal and then we got another Fed
bailout. So, in other words, it seems
like we're twice as likely to get a Fed
bailout than we are to get a deal with
China. But with that said, I want to
talk about this indicator because as
much as there's a lot of enthusiasm and
hope coming back into the stock market,
a lot of folks are wondering what's
driving this rally. There are a few
things driving the rally, and it's
certainly not the yellow indicator that
has just turned red. One of the things
that could be driving the rally, at
least per the doomers over at Duneberg,
is quote hope rather than fundamentals.
and that a quote reckoning is coming.
Part of that, they say, is driven by the
enthusiasm compounded by about $240
billion of corporate buybacks that were
announced, which is really good and
comes after Q1. So, it makes sense that
we're seeing that now outside of a
blackout period. And again, very
supportive of an equity rally that's
potentially driven by hope of a deal
with China. We'll see what happens. But
what is this indicator and is it
something that we should really care
about because hey maybe we will get
Chinese tariffs down from uh 145% to 60%
or 80% or who knows TBD. So far we've
got one trade deal in the bag with a
surplus nation and now the question is
what kind of certainty are we going to
get going forward? Well what we have is
a bearish indicator from Bloomberg
Intelligence's proprietary model they
call it. What they did is they went back
to
1996 and they found that the S&P 500 has
averaged a 5.9% annualized loss during
the last seven times this indicator has
turned red. And I pull up this indicator
in just a moment. Keep in mind when you
see yellow, yellow is actually a good
thing as well. Typically, yellow on an
annualized basis can give you anywhere
up to uh a 13 to 20 plus% return. On a
green basis, you could get even more
than that. Sometimes as much as a 16%
annual return or more. So, think about
yellow as like green and green is really
green. Because when I first saw the
model, I'm like, "Oh, okay." Like, you
know, yellow's probably like not that
great, right? Now, yellow is still
smoking great and it makes sense because
like 2004, 5, 6, 7, yellow. Uh, you
know, most of the period here, uh,
between 2010 and 2019, with the
exception of 15, 16, 17 here were
yellow. Uh, of course, the Nike swoosh
recovery from 2022 is perfectly
demonstrated right here. Look at that
beautiful Nike swoosh. If only somebody
told us this beautiful Nike swoosh was
coming. Oh, wait. I did every single day
over here. And people told me that I was
a perma bull and I could never be
bullish. Uh but that's okay. You know,
people have uh opinions that change like
a light switch. That said, you could see
very very aggressive riskon rewards
after uh or returns which are also
rewarding after COVID uh or uh basically
around Federal Reserve U-turns, right?
Uh so really exciting times in markets
when the Federal Reserve is bailing out
markets. Uh and then less so you know
very quick Uturn over here in 2022 when
the Federal Reserve started getting
aggressive right. Uh you also got this
in the mid90s soft landing which is
interesting because that mid90s soft
landing is when they started this
indicator. Uh, and so it'd be
fascinating to see, hey, could we go
into another green regime here after
whatever the heck it is that we're going
to go through, but green is a glorious
time to invest. Uh, and so where we sat
uh since about the since June of 2023
was actually in this yellow territory
and this is just turned to red. Now red
is associated with negative annualized
returns of 5.9 to 7.6% 6% depending on
if you're looking at the S&P market cap
or equal weighted
uh and uh the equal weighted fell more
probably because you know usually the
top components of the S&P 500 are a
little bit more resilient. Uh in
addition to that you have uh an
expectation that over this next 6 months
you shouldn't expect almost any return
in the stock market when it turns red.
It just turned red in March and the
components of it are expected to stay
red for the duration of April. Though
not all the data is available yet to
work out the April data. This works.
They're using a combination of price to
book volume, the 200 day moving average,
year-over-year changes, EPS change
estimates, the changes in the money
supply. It basically tries to put
everything together. And most of the
components that are available so far
indicate that we will still be in the
red territory for April. And you know
again the forward returns for this are
flat at best and worst case scenario
quite well in the red. Now during the
times where this has been positive in
the past at least on a market cap basis
two out of the last three times that we
were red we had nominally green returns.
But during those two times, we had the
Federal Reserve bailing out markets.
That was December of 2018 and then the
COVID U-turn. So the signal wasn't
perfect during those times, probably
because of the suddeness of the Federal
Reserve intervention. And another time
you had a nominally green return was in
a period uh of of 2014 to
2016. Who knows? Not every single
indicator is perfect, but I think that's
really interesting because it's a tool
that suggests, hey, we're in a unique
period of time in the market where
usually we want to be maybe more
cautious when things turn red. And so
what I wanted to look at is how long we
usually get red. And so what I noticed
is we got red in the.com bubble
essentially until April or May or April
or March over here of 2003 which is when
the Federal Reserve bailed out markets.
It looks like we got red until uh about
February of 2009 which is exactly where
the Fed bailed out markets and then we
actually turned green to yellow.
Remember yellow is a really good thing
too.
uh we had this really brief odd period
here in '89 where we had a really short
period of time where things were red.
Not exactly sure now why that is, but
it's possible maybe we'll have the
conditions of the sort of the late 90s
though I think that's probably unlikely
uh given the conditions of the
employment market in the late 90s were
actually substantially improving whereas
when we look at say 27 weeks unemployed
in our employment market things were
actually rotating down. Now, who knows?
We don't necessarily have to have a
recession. Hopefully not because it
would be very bad for a lot of different
people. Losing jobs are terrible. Uh the
entire economy slows down. Everything
good service, everything's painful. But
you'll notice when when you start
pointing out where the Federal Reserve
bailouts are, uh in fact, we could just
do it together. you start noticing that
if you're in an environment where you're
not really close to a Fed bailout,
you're probably looking at an extended
period of red. And so, what I'm going to
provide here are various different uh
Federal Reserve bailouts. You actually
saw one right here, which is kind of a
unique period. That's one of the times
where we actually still saw gains. And
then, of course, you had a Federal
Reserve bailout over here at the
beginning of 2020. So, right about here.
So all of these periods of time where we
had uh red were oops that should be over
here that would be about March of 2009
February 2009 about right there. So you
see that most of the time where we go
from periods of red to yellow or green
it's because of a Federal Reserve
bailout. Now, that was not true in 2022
to 2023, which I also think is very
interesting. Okay, I'm not sure why it
gave me an octagon or whatever that is.
Hexagon, pentagon, I don't know. I
didn't count the sides, but I just
wanted an arrow. There we go. So, now
what's interesting is let's use an
orange one for where we did not have
Federal Reserve support and we had
fantastic returns afterwards. mid 2023
was a period where we went from red to
again I call this a version of green the
yellow uh without the Federal Reserve
you know if anything it was in the face
of the Federal Reserve after sort of the
rolling recession or whatever you'd say
we also did go to yellow in 2016
uh after this this sideways period
between 1516 uh to 17 over here you can
see this was quite an extended period of
time and this was an extended period of
pain as Well, and so absent a Federal
bailout, there's really like a Federal
Reserve bailout. There's only one time
this indicator has really been short,
right? So, let's get rid of the Fed
bailouts. Fed bailout here. Get rid of
this as a Fed bailout. You know, we'll
even leave the arrows. Let's look for
when have we had a short period of red
with no Federal Reserve bailout. And
there's only been one time this period,
this indicator has been red and we went
green immediately after without the
Federal Reserve bailing us out. Maybe we
could make this happen again. It seems
like historically and statistically when
this happens we are in for a long period
of
red because over here 2015 161 17
sideways returns no Fed bailout over
here 18 months of red no Fed bailout.
Those are extended periods of time
without the Federal Reserve intervening.
The short periods of time usually uh or
the end of the periods are usually when
you have a Federal Reserve bailout. So
in other words, we have four cases here
where the Federal Reserve bailed out the
red. We have two cases where markets
returned back to yellow only after 18
months to 24 months of red. And we only
have one example where we had a very
very little short period of time
interrupting our green stock market
momentum. So is there a chance that this
time will be different from all of the
other like the vast majority of the
cases here that the market will keep
going up in the face of no Federal
Reserve bill. Of course, anything is
possible. But at least based on this as
an indicator for whatever indicator it
could be, it does suggest caution. And
frankly, it kind of makes sense. It
makes sense that in a period of FOMO by
the dipping on optimism over trade
deals, which so far have been pretty
lame, uh, the only one that we've had.
In addition to corporate stock buybacks
on the back of Q1 frontunning
earnings and the potential supply chain
reckoning that we would expect to start
feeling by uh let's call it June, end of
May, July doesn't seem like we should
really be expecting substantial stock
market returns going forward from this
point. However, for the last two weeks,
I have been advocating using trailing
stops to everybody in the Meet Kevin
membership. Uh, and while I can't give
you personalized financial advice, I can
say that these trailing stops have
actually been killing it. Uh, and we've
been able to see a ride up with that
downside protection of a trailing stop.
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folks, we'll see you in the next video.
Thanks again. Goodbye and good luck. Why
not advertise these things that you told
us here? I feel like nobody else knows
about this. We'll we'll try a little
advertising and see how it goes.
Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you. Kevin Pra there, financial analyst
and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great
to get your take.
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