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A Major Economic Indicator JUST FLIPPED **Spoiler: BAD**

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Hey everyone, me Kevin here. In this

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video, we're going to cover a bearish

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indicator that just turned from yellow

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to red. We're going to talk about where

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we sit even after the April recovery.

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What this indicator usually for stalls,

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what it could mean, and I want to give

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you a quick update on some of the Trump

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tariff numbers. Obviously, we're all

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aligning and wait to see what happens

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tomorrow with the Chinese negotiation.

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My guess is Donald Trump is going to pit

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it at a fantastic success and that we

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are close to a deal. Well, the reality

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is likely that Chinese negotiations are

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going to take just as long as they did

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in 2018. As history shows, negotiations

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took so long in 2018 and throughout

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2019, we never actually got a trade

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deal. We got a Fed bailout at the end of

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2018. Then COVID hit and we still didn't

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have a deal and then we got another Fed

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bailout. So, in other words, it seems

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like we're twice as likely to get a Fed

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bailout than we are to get a deal with

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China. But with that said, I want to

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talk about this indicator because as

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much as there's a lot of enthusiasm and

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hope coming back into the stock market,

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a lot of folks are wondering what's

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driving this rally. There are a few

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things driving the rally, and it's

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certainly not the yellow indicator that

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has just turned red. One of the things

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that could be driving the rally, at

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least per the doomers over at Duneberg,

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is quote hope rather than fundamentals.

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and that a quote reckoning is coming.

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Part of that, they say, is driven by the

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enthusiasm compounded by about $240

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billion of corporate buybacks that were

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announced, which is really good and

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comes after Q1. So, it makes sense that

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we're seeing that now outside of a

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blackout period. And again, very

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supportive of an equity rally that's

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potentially driven by hope of a deal

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with China. We'll see what happens. But

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what is this indicator and is it

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something that we should really care

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about because hey maybe we will get

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Chinese tariffs down from uh 145% to 60%

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or 80% or who knows TBD. So far we've

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got one trade deal in the bag with a

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surplus nation and now the question is

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what kind of certainty are we going to

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get going forward? Well what we have is

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a bearish indicator from Bloomberg

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Intelligence's proprietary model they

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call it. What they did is they went back

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to

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1996 and they found that the S&P 500 has

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averaged a 5.9% annualized loss during

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the last seven times this indicator has

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turned red. And I pull up this indicator

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in just a moment. Keep in mind when you

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see yellow, yellow is actually a good

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thing as well. Typically, yellow on an

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annualized basis can give you anywhere

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up to uh a 13 to 20 plus% return. On a

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green basis, you could get even more

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than that. Sometimes as much as a 16%

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annual return or more. So, think about

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yellow as like green and green is really

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green. Because when I first saw the

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model, I'm like, "Oh, okay." Like, you

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know, yellow's probably like not that

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great, right? Now, yellow is still

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smoking great and it makes sense because

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like 2004, 5, 6, 7, yellow. Uh, you

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know, most of the period here, uh,

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between 2010 and 2019, with the

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exception of 15, 16, 17 here were

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yellow. Uh, of course, the Nike swoosh

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recovery from 2022 is perfectly

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demonstrated right here. Look at that

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beautiful Nike swoosh. If only somebody

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told us this beautiful Nike swoosh was

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coming. Oh, wait. I did every single day

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over here. And people told me that I was

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a perma bull and I could never be

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bullish. Uh but that's okay. You know,

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people have uh opinions that change like

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a light switch. That said, you could see

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very very aggressive riskon rewards

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after uh or returns which are also

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rewarding after COVID uh or uh basically

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around Federal Reserve U-turns, right?

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Uh so really exciting times in markets

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when the Federal Reserve is bailing out

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markets. Uh and then less so you know

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very quick Uturn over here in 2022 when

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the Federal Reserve started getting

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aggressive right. Uh you also got this

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in the mid90s soft landing which is

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interesting because that mid90s soft

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landing is when they started this

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indicator. Uh, and so it'd be

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fascinating to see, hey, could we go

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into another green regime here after

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whatever the heck it is that we're going

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to go through, but green is a glorious

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time to invest. Uh, and so where we sat

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uh since about the since June of 2023

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was actually in this yellow territory

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and this is just turned to red. Now red

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is associated with negative annualized

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returns of 5.9 to 7.6% 6% depending on

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if you're looking at the S&P market cap

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or equal weighted

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uh and uh the equal weighted fell more

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probably because you know usually the

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top components of the S&P 500 are a

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little bit more resilient. Uh in

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addition to that you have uh an

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expectation that over this next 6 months

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you shouldn't expect almost any return

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in the stock market when it turns red.

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It just turned red in March and the

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components of it are expected to stay

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red for the duration of April. Though

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not all the data is available yet to

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work out the April data. This works.

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They're using a combination of price to

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book volume, the 200 day moving average,

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year-over-year changes, EPS change

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estimates, the changes in the money

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supply. It basically tries to put

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everything together. And most of the

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components that are available so far

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indicate that we will still be in the

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red territory for April. And you know

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again the forward returns for this are

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flat at best and worst case scenario

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quite well in the red. Now during the

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times where this has been positive in

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the past at least on a market cap basis

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two out of the last three times that we

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were red we had nominally green returns.

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But during those two times, we had the

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Federal Reserve bailing out markets.

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That was December of 2018 and then the

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COVID U-turn. So the signal wasn't

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perfect during those times, probably

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because of the suddeness of the Federal

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Reserve intervention. And another time

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you had a nominally green return was in

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a period uh of of 2014 to

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2016. Who knows? Not every single

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indicator is perfect, but I think that's

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really interesting because it's a tool

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that suggests, hey, we're in a unique

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period of time in the market where

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usually we want to be maybe more

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cautious when things turn red. And so

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what I wanted to look at is how long we

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usually get red. And so what I noticed

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is we got red in the.com bubble

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essentially until April or May or April

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or March over here of 2003 which is when

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the Federal Reserve bailed out markets.

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It looks like we got red until uh about

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February of 2009 which is exactly where

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the Fed bailed out markets and then we

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actually turned green to yellow.

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Remember yellow is a really good thing

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too.

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uh we had this really brief odd period

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here in '89 where we had a really short

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period of time where things were red.

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Not exactly sure now why that is, but

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it's possible maybe we'll have the

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conditions of the sort of the late 90s

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though I think that's probably unlikely

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uh given the conditions of the

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employment market in the late 90s were

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actually substantially improving whereas

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when we look at say 27 weeks unemployed

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in our employment market things were

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actually rotating down. Now, who knows?

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We don't necessarily have to have a

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recession. Hopefully not because it

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would be very bad for a lot of different

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people. Losing jobs are terrible. Uh the

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entire economy slows down. Everything

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good service, everything's painful. But

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you'll notice when when you start

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pointing out where the Federal Reserve

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bailouts are, uh in fact, we could just

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do it together. you start noticing that

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if you're in an environment where you're

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not really close to a Fed bailout,

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you're probably looking at an extended

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period of red. And so, what I'm going to

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provide here are various different uh

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Federal Reserve bailouts. You actually

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saw one right here, which is kind of a

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unique period. That's one of the times

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where we actually still saw gains. And

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then, of course, you had a Federal

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Reserve bailout over here at the

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beginning of 2020. So, right about here.

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So all of these periods of time where we

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had uh red were oops that should be over

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here that would be about March of 2009

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February 2009 about right there. So you

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see that most of the time where we go

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from periods of red to yellow or green

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it's because of a Federal Reserve

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bailout. Now, that was not true in 2022

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to 2023, which I also think is very

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interesting. Okay, I'm not sure why it

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gave me an octagon or whatever that is.

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Hexagon, pentagon, I don't know. I

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didn't count the sides, but I just

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wanted an arrow. There we go. So, now

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what's interesting is let's use an

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orange one for where we did not have

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Federal Reserve support and we had

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fantastic returns afterwards. mid 2023

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was a period where we went from red to

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again I call this a version of green the

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yellow uh without the Federal Reserve

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you know if anything it was in the face

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of the Federal Reserve after sort of the

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rolling recession or whatever you'd say

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we also did go to yellow in 2016

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uh after this this sideways period

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between 1516 uh to 17 over here you can

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see this was quite an extended period of

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time and this was an extended period of

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pain as Well, and so absent a Federal

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bailout, there's really like a Federal

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Reserve bailout. There's only one time

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this indicator has really been short,

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right? So, let's get rid of the Fed

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bailouts. Fed bailout here. Get rid of

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this as a Fed bailout. You know, we'll

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even leave the arrows. Let's look for

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when have we had a short period of red

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with no Federal Reserve bailout. And

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there's only been one time this period,

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this indicator has been red and we went

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green immediately after without the

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Federal Reserve bailing us out. Maybe we

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could make this happen again. It seems

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like historically and statistically when

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this happens we are in for a long period

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of

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red because over here 2015 161 17

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sideways returns no Fed bailout over

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here 18 months of red no Fed bailout.

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Those are extended periods of time

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without the Federal Reserve intervening.

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The short periods of time usually uh or

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the end of the periods are usually when

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you have a Federal Reserve bailout. So

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in other words, we have four cases here

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where the Federal Reserve bailed out the

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red. We have two cases where markets

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returned back to yellow only after 18

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months to 24 months of red. And we only

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have one example where we had a very

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very little short period of time

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interrupting our green stock market

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momentum. So is there a chance that this

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time will be different from all of the

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other like the vast majority of the

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cases here that the market will keep

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going up in the face of no Federal

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Reserve bill. Of course, anything is

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possible. But at least based on this as

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an indicator for whatever indicator it

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could be, it does suggest caution. And

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frankly, it kind of makes sense. It

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makes sense that in a period of FOMO by

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the dipping on optimism over trade

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deals, which so far have been pretty

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lame, uh, the only one that we've had.

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In addition to corporate stock buybacks

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on the back of Q1 frontunning

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earnings and the potential supply chain

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reckoning that we would expect to start

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feeling by uh let's call it June, end of

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May, July doesn't seem like we should

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really be expecting substantial stock

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market returns going forward from this

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point. However, for the last two weeks,

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Congratulations, man. You have done so

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