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Capitalism will eat democracy -- unless we speak up | Yanis Varoufakis

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Democracy.

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In the West,

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we make a colossal mistake taking it for granted.

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We see democracy

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not as the most fragile of flowers that it really is,

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but we see it as part of our society's furniture.

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We tend to think of it as an intransigent given.

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We mistakenly believe that capitalism begets inevitably democracy.

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It doesn't.

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Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew and his great imitators in Beijing

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have demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt

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that it is perfectly possible to have a flourishing capitalism,

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spectacular growth,

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while politics remains democracy-free.

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Indeed, democracy is receding in our neck of the woods,

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here in Europe.

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Earlier this year, while I was representing Greece --

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the newly elected Greek government --

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in the Eurogroup as its Finance Minister,

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I was told in no uncertain terms that our nation's democratic process --

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our elections --

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could not be allowed to interfere

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with economic policies that were being implemented in Greece.

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At that moment,

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I felt that there could be no greater vindication of Lee Kuan Yew,

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or the Chinese Communist Party,

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indeed of some recalcitrant friends of mine who kept telling me

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that democracy would be banned if it ever threatened to change anything.

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Tonight, here, I want to present to you

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an economic case for an authentic democracy.

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I want to ask you to join me in believing again

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that Lee Kuan Yew,

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the Chinese Communist Party

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and indeed the Eurogroup

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are wrong in believing that we can dispense with democracy --

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that we need an authentic, boisterous democracy.

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And without democracy,

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our societies will be nastier,

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our future bleak

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and our great, new technologies wasted.

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Speaking of waste,

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allow me to point out an interesting paradox

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that is threatening our economies as we speak.

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I call it the twin peaks paradox.

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One peak you understand --

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you know it, you recognize it --

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is the mountain of debts that has been casting a long shadow

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over the United States, Europe, the whole world.

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We all recognize the mountain of debts.

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But few people discern its twin.

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A mountain of idle cash

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belonging to rich savers and to corporations,

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too terrified to invest it

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into the productive activities that can generate the incomes

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from which you can extinguish the mountain of debts

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and which can produce all those things that humanity desperately needs,

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like green energy.

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Now let me give you two numbers.

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Over the last three months,

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in the United States, in Britain and in the Eurozone,

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we have invested, collectively, 3.4 trillion dollars

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on all the wealth-producing goods --

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things like industrial plants, machinery,

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office blocks, schools,

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roads, railways, machinery, and so on and so forth.

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$3.4 trillion sounds like a lot of money

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until you compare it to the $5.1 trillion

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that has been slushing around in the same countries,

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in our financial institutions,

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doing absolutely nothing during the same period

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except inflating stock exchanges and bidding up house prices.

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So a mountain of debt and a mountain of idle cash

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form twin peaks, failing to cancel each other out

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through the normal operation of the markets.

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The result is stagnant wages,

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more than a quarter of 25- to 54-year-olds in America, in Japan and in Europe

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out of work.

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And consequently, low aggregate demand,

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which in a never-ending cycle,

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reinforces the pessimism of the investors,

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who, fearing low demand, reproduce it by not investing --

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exactly like Oedipus' father,

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who, terrified by the prophecy of the oracle

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that his son would grow up to kill him,

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unwittingly engineered the conditions

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that ensured that Oedipus, his son, would kill him.

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This is my quarrel with capitalism.

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Its gross wastefulness,

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all this idle cash,

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should be energized to improve lives,

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to develop human talents,

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and indeed to finance all these technologies,

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green technologies,

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which are absolutely essential for saving planet Earth.

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Am I right in believing that democracy might be the answer?

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I believe so,

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but before we move on,

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what do we mean by democracy?

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Aristotle defined democracy

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as the constitution in which the free and the poor,

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being in the majority, control government.

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Now, of course Athenian democracy excluded too many.

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Women, migrants and, of course, the slaves.

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But it would be a mistake

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to dismiss the significance of ancient Athenian democracy

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on the basis of whom it excluded.

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What was more pertinent,

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and continues to be so about ancient Athenian democracy,

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was the inclusion of the working poor,

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who not only acquired the right to free speech,

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but more importantly, crucially,

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they acquired the rights to political judgments

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that were afforded equal weight

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in the decision-making concerning matters of state.

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Now, of course, Athenian democracy didn't last long.

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Like a candle that burns brightly, it burned out quickly.

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And indeed,

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our liberal democracies today do not have their roots in ancient Athens.

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They have their roots in the Magna Carta,

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in the 1688 Glorious Revolution,

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indeed in the American constitution.

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Whereas Athenian democracy was focusing on the masterless citizen

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and empowering the working poor,

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our liberal democracies are founded on the Magna Carta tradition,

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which was, after all, a charter for masters.

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And indeed, liberal democracy only surfaced when it was possible

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to separate fully the political sphere from the economic sphere,

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so as to confine the democratic process fully in the political sphere,

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leaving the economic sphere --

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the corporate world, if you want --

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as a democracy-free zone.

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Now, in our democracies today,

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this separation of the economic from the political sphere,

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the moment it started happening,

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it gave rise to an inexorable, epic struggle between the two,

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with the economic sphere colonizing the political sphere,

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eating into its power.

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Have you wondered why politicians are not what they used to be?

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It's not because their DNA has degenerated.

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(Laughter)

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It is rather because one can be in government today and not in power,

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because power has migrated from the political to the economic sphere,

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which is separate.

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Indeed,

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I spoke about my quarrel with capitalism.

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If you think about it,

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it is a little bit like a population of predators,

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that are so successful in decimating the prey that they must feed on,

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that in the end they starve.

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Similarly,

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the economic sphere has been colonizing and cannibalizing the political sphere

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to such an extent that it is undermining itself,

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causing economic crisis.

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Corporate power is increasing,

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political goods are devaluing,

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inequality is rising,

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aggregate demand is falling

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and CEOs of corporations are too scared to invest the cash of their corporations.

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So the more capitalism succeeds in taking the demos out of democracy,

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the taller the twin peaks

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and the greater the waste of human resources

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and humanity's wealth.

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Clearly, if this is right,

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we must reunite the political and economic spheres

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and better do it with a demos being in control,

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like in ancient Athens except without the slaves

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or the exclusion of women and migrants.

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Now, this is not an original idea.

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The Marxist left had that idea 100 years ago

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and it didn't go very well, did it?

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The lesson that we learned from the Soviet debacle

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is that only by a miracle will the working poor be reempowered,

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as they were in ancient Athens,

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without creating new forms of brutality and waste.

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But there is a solution:

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eliminate the working poor.

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Capitalism's doing it

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by replacing low-wage workers with automata, androids, robots.

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The problem is

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that as long as the economic and the political spheres are separate,

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automation makes the twin peaks taller,

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the waste loftier

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and the social conflicts deeper,

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including --

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soon, I believe --

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in places like China.

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So we need to reconfigure,

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we need to reunite the economic and the political spheres,

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but we'd better do it by democratizing the reunified sphere,

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lest we end up with a surveillance-mad hyperautocracy

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that makes The Matrix, the movie, look like a documentary.

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(Laughter)

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So the question is not whether capitalism will survive

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the technological innovations it is spawning.

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The more interesting question

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is whether capitalism will be succeeded by something resembling a Matrix dystopia

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or something much closer to a Star Trek-like society,

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where machines serve the humans

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and the humans expend their energies exploring the universe

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and indulging in long debates about the meaning of life

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