Big Trump Trade Deal Coming | First Deficit Nation Deal?!?!
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News just out potentially on Donald
Trump's next trade deal. Remember we we
have not had a single trade deal with a
deficit country other than just sort of
frameworks of continuations of talks
like what we've had with China and sort
of miscellaneous walkbacks. But a
broader deal with a deficit country has
not been reached yet since liberation
day. However, now there is talk that the
US and Vietnam are closing in also on a
framework trade agreement. Uh now what's
interesting about this is currently
reciprocal tariffs against Vietnam which
is really big for furniture
manufacturing
uh and restoration hardware I'm pretty
sure does quite a bit of their
manufacturing out of uh out of Vietnam.
Apparently there is talk of uh a
framework for a deal with Vietnam.
Vietnam is seeking to secure tariffs in
the range of 20 to 25% said people
interviewed by Bloomberg but asking not
to be identified because the discussions
are still private. The agreement would
include a series of US demands such as
stricter enforcement against a Chinese
trans shipping basically the non-tariff
barriers. Vietnam had earlier offered to
remove all tariffs as well as step up
trade enforcement and boost purchases of
American goods. However, right now it
still looks like they're going to end up
with some tariff level around 20 to 25%.
And this is actually interesting
because, you know, you're at 10% now,
which means we would end up with, yes,
more tariffs and more tariff revenue for
the United States, but actually a higher
level of tariffs that could potentially
create more dead weight loss in the
economy than we had previously
anticipated. Uh, a lot of the Federal
Reserve right now is hoping that tariffs
end up somewhere around an average of
18% averaging China into that on a trade
weighted basis. Uh, anything more than
that is something that that could
potentially crimp the economy more so
than the Federal Reserve expects. This
would be above that average at 20 to
25%.
However, quote unquote, the final
contours of the framework are still
being fleshed out in ways that need to
secure President Trump's sign off.
Vietnam's foreign ministry has not
responded, neither has the White House.
Trump so far has struggled to reach
trade deals for his July 9th deadline.
We still have about three weeks there.
Donald Trump has also suggested that he
intends to send letters that for
basically like take it or leave it
offers for trade. It's like we will just
peg your you know uh tariff amount at X
and go from there. Uh however, even talk
about deals like this around this 20 to
25% level for Vietnam probably good for
setting up the potential for making
deals with other countries. So I'd say
this is broadly optimistic even though
the tariff levels are higher than than
you know would would ordinarily be
desirable. Vietnam did offer the promise
of a quick solution.
Uh however we we still need to ink the
deal. Yes, some officials want to
calibrate tariffs for Vietnam uh and
other Southeast Asians to ensure they
are sufficiently lower than what's being
imposed on China. Yet, if they're too
low, the rates may only exacerbate
Vietnam's high trade surplus with the US
and encourage further shipment of
Chinese goods through the country. So in
other words, if you keep like 55% on
China, you want tariffs to be high
enough on Vietnam that people aren't
incentivized to funnel stuff to Vietnam
and then to America, but you want them
to be, you know, high enough to still
collect revenue also from Vietnam
because that that is part of Donald
Trump's big goal is Donald Trump loves
this idea of revenue from tariffs and
that's obviously the broader risk for
the US economy is that Donald Trump
becomes addicted with the idea of
tariffs. tariffs to the point where it
it actually ends up crimping parts of
the US economy. Now, right now, optimism
is very very high. But if we look at the
Empire manufacturing survey, I think you
could see that, you know, there are
underlying cracks that we want to pay
attention to. If you look at the full
report here from this morning's Empire
Manufacturing Survey, which took uh you
know, this survey took place between
June 2nd and June 9th. So broadly in in
sort of the current state of where we
are with uh with with the economy,
manufacturing activity actually fell for
a fourth consecutive month in New York
State. The Empire manufacturing is just
related to New York State. So it's not
sort of a full US picture, but it gives
you a very interesting POV. It says
manufacturing's down. Unfilled orders
decline. So they're able to catch up on
on orders. Uh they're also pointing to a
decline in orders and shipments, which
isn't good, right? So business
conditions are actually getting worse.
However,
firms are becoming more positive, which
is this interesting duality. You're in
an environment right now where capital
spending plans are soft, but people are
optimistic for future business
conditions. They're optimistic about
taco or whatever. You know, Trump always
chickens out or trade frameworks coming
or American exceptionalism or whatever.
and we actually ended up getting an
increase in employees, the first
positive reading since January, even
though the average work week declined
1.5 hours. So, you're really in this
sort of weird place where pricing power
is weak. The economy uh isn't exactly
booming in terms of companies abilities
to raise prices and consumer spending
again with new orders and shipments
declining. But there's so much optimism
around hey as we get deals as we get uh
you know uh a resumption of the norm
maybe these new order declines will
prove to be temporary uh and we can get
back to optimism. So these are all
current conditions here. If we go to
forward-looking indicators you can see
here here's that optimism which is
basically V-shaped recovering.
Interestingly, uh the looking forward
there's the belief that we are going to
see more new orders uh and more
shipments, but we're not seeing that in
the current conditions. So, hope uh with
new orders and shipments expected to
increase, but again, not being met by
present data. However, I would argue
that if we ended up getting a deal with
the deficit country like Vietnam, uh it
would broadly be optimistic. It's
possible. That's why we're starting to
see some rise on Restoration Hardware
here. I do think that Restoration
Hardware was able to kick the can of
tariffs down the road until at least the
third quarter because they built up
inventory to really get through all of
Q2 uh without having to pay tariffs on
their wares. However, uh come Q3, Q4,
they're going to start taking a hit. And
honestly, at 20 25%. That's quite a
chunky number. But I will say broadly
good news that it looks like there might
be some progress finally coming uh on
tariffs uh and uh deals with other
countries though surprisingly higher
than the 10% where these Vietnamese
tariffs are presently set. Why not
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advertising and see how it goes.
Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you. Kevin Praath there, financial
analyst and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always
great to get your take.
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