The Trump "War Plan" Leak JUST got Worse | Does it Matter?
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The Atlantic story has more updates. Now
all of a sudden we're getting reports
that there were actually potentially
sensitive military details provided. But
now of course people are debating what
is the definition of a sensitive
military update. I mean it probably
would have to require times and the type
of weapons being used but but probably
also names and locations. How about
exact addresses? And so now there's this
huge political debate over how much is
considered how much detail is considered
a war plan. And so there are arguments
on both sides over this. But in case you
haven't gotten caught up with the whole
situation, here's the TLDDR. An Atlantic
reporter was invited to a signal group
chat with the Department of Defense and
the staff of the State Department, JD
Vance and others. And basically here's
probably the worst of it. uh which
provides
exactly that the mission is a go what
time F-18s are going to take off for
their first strike package what time
they're like that you know who's
basically getting targeted now they
don't exactly say we know this is a
Houthy group right because the whole the
whole conversation is Houthies so we
know a Houthy terrorist is being
targeted at his known location and
should be on you know the targets should
be on time in other words the package
delivery from the United States, the
rockets, the bombs. Uh, and uh,
apparently the individual was showing
uh, was meeting his girlfriend at a
known location and you know whether they
had CIA intelligence officers or
whomever determined that the individual
was there, the launch had been confirmed
and there was about a 45minute window
between uh, when the expectation was
that the strike would take place uh, and
sort of this chat about it. uh more F-18
launches and then drone strikes and
bombings. Basically an exact road map as
to when everything would occur. And so
now a lot of uh the Trump administration
staff who were arguing that hey we
didn't provide any war plans have a
little bit of egg on their face because
this does seem like a war plan. Now, in
fairness, the other side, you know, the
more Trump aligned side says, well, I
mean, you know, there isn't an actual
address given, and you know, hey, you
know, signal is not that bad. Maybe
there's just no better software. You
know, to to this I I I think we can just
be reasonable adults and look at this
and say, you know, politicians are
always going to lie to us. And I hate
that about politics. In fact, I tweeted
the following. I tweeted, "Truth and
integrity don't seem to exist in
politics. It seems you have to be a paid
liar directly or by omission to be a
politician." Uh, this is true on both
sides, right? Democrats and Republicans.
I mean, I could tell you all about the
lies of our Gavin Gruom, just like, you
know, maybe you can say provide lies
about Obama or Trump or Biden or
whomever you want, right? It's a it's a
nasty nasty game. Uh like uh you
know somebody left me a comment on X the
other day because I wrote, "Wow, I
didn't have Trump pumping a memecoin on
my bingo card today." You know, because
he was pumping his Trump token. And
somebody replied, "Well, did did you
have, you know, the Biden crime family
on your bingo card?" And I'm like, you
know, it is possible. I just suck at
politics
bingo. So, like I think we can all kind
of agree it's it's just a crappy
crappy, you know, world that we're in
when it comes to politics because you
you kind of like if you don't take a
side, you piss off both sides usually. I
like to reject that argument and I
always like to stay in the middle, but
you've got Levit for example, she by the
way is perfect for Trump. She is the
perfect pitchwoman for Trump because
she, you know, she's like, "Oh, you
know, the Atlantic has conceded. These
were not war plans. Uh, you know, these
these this entire story is just another
hoax written by a Trump hater who is
well known for his sensationalist spin.
And then you get people like Mike Walls
in the chat, obviously involved deeply
here with the government. Duh.
Government official. No locations, no
sources and methods, no war plans.
Foreign partners had already been
notified that the strikes were imminent.
Bottom line, the president is protecting
America and our interest. Well, I mean,
to some extent, this is a bit of a
logical fallacy. First of all, and keep
in mind he tweeted this before the
Atlantic's. Like, really, no war plans?
Here are the war plans. You know what
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anyway, you know, it's a logical fallacy
to go bottom line, Trump is protecting
our America and our interests. Well,
duh. That's the president's job. But
that has no bearing on did y'all make a
mistake? Because if y'all made a
mistake, just own it. Just be like,
"Hey, you know what? We've decided to
use, I don't know, a secured advanced
protection Google chat system instead of
Signal so we can properly document our
messages." It's not that hard. you know,
pick one of the SAS companies that's all
American and promote one of them as
opposed to Signal with disappearing
messages. Uh, and then just, you know,
suck it up. Hey, we effed up. It ain't
going to happen again. You know what? We
took the opportunity to grant a contract
to an American company and spend on even
more transparent data because we value
transparency. We admit we made a
mistake. We're moving on. You know,
that's all you'd have to say. But this
idea of h, you know, no locations, no
sources, no methods, no war plans. Okay.
Well, sure. You didn't give a specific
location. We know it's Yemen because
you're in the Houthi group. No sources
and methods. All right. Well, drones and
F-18s are sources and methods, so that's
false. No war plans. Times combined with
drones and a first strike package and
second strike package sound like war
plans. So, you know, I call this one 67%
[ __ ] Okay. But but again, that's
just politicians. They all do it. And it
like I I didn't have this opinion when I
ran for governor of California in 2021.
I I had this mindset that we could bring
like just live stream every single day
and bring as much truth and transparency
as you can to politics. That was my
thought. But I I almost think that just
like everybody who's involved in
politics just gets corrupted. you get
corrupted into a liar because
transparency doesn't get rewarded
because if you're transparent, you're
just going to get sued or you're gonna
lose the next election, right? It's
crazy, you know. But then you also get
more of these updates like, you know,
here's one. Uh, you know, Wall says, uh,
hey JD Vance, the building we targeted
collapsed. Multiple positive IDs.
Amazing job. JD Vance is like, what?
Mike Michael Walls, sorry, typing too
fast. The first target, their top
missile guy. We had positive idea of him
walking into his girlfriend's building
and now it's collapsed. Well, so is the
NASDAQ 100 right now. But anyway, JD
Vance, excellent. This is also kind of
like a very bizarre conversation to be
reading, but it's sort of like the
nature of war because it's like, hey,
y'all just like literally collapsed
maybe an apartment building or whatever
it was. I mean, I guess I suppose it
could just be I mean, when they say
building, it doesn't appear to be a
house, but anyway. Uh, excellent. just
seems to be, you know, kind of a brash
response, but again, this is probably
the nature of war. Uh, and so, you know,
then you've got Tulsi Gabbard arguing,
well, okay, you know, basically, maybe
maybe certain things were said that
shouldn't have been said, but you know
what? It's up to the Secretary of
Defense to classify or
declassify. Like,
okay. All right. So like this stuff just
drives me nuts because this this is just
on steroids showing us how frankly no
matter what kind of politician you are
just the nature of being a politician
makes you dishonest it seems like
because you have to be for your base. Uh
and it's interesting because you know
you see this a lot with Elon Musk. I
call him Mr. First Reaction now. Uh, you
know, I I love them from from an
engineer and vision for the future point
of view. You know, Tesla, SpaceX,
Neurolink. I I think these are some of
the coolest things of our time. You
know, it's like the Albert Einstein of
our days. But, you know, this
involvement into politics has really
turned him into kind of a slanderer of
his competitors and and a hater. I mean,
look at this now. Extremely important
difference. X AI and his white castle.
ironic he chose sort of a white castle
but maximally truth seeeking AI and then
Google open AI and you know the others
Meta Oracle what he's bagged on all of
them trained to lie and be politically
correct which is interesting because you
know when you used to ask Grock who was
the biggest information spreader in the
world Grock would reply it was Elon Musk
well now it doesn't reply that way
anymore and somebody called out the
Grock staff have for this at XAI and
they called him out constantly calling
Sam a swindler but then making sure your
own AI does under no circumstances call
Elon Musk a swindler and explicitly
telling it to disregard sources that do
so is so effing funny I can't XAI rather
than disputing that they no longer allow
Grock to call Elon Musk a misinformation
spreader replies with you are
overindexing on an employee pushing a
change to the prompt that they thought
would help without asking anyone at the
company for confirmation. In other
words, sorry, some random staffer at
XAI made Grock [ __ ] on Elon a little bit
less and it wasn't the staffer's fault.
They were just doing their job like the
system was designed and yeah, it just so
happens to no longer call Elon a
misinformation special which is
really I mean they basically
admitted this is a tacid admission that
they changed it you know that they
changed their their algo for what's said
about Elon. So I decided to ask Gro 3
beta today. Does Musk spread
disinformation or is he mostly truthful
in his post? Lately I've heard people
call him Mr. first reaction as he echoes
comments that promote his cause or rile
up his base. But I'm not sure if I
should believe that. Uh, and this is
Grock's full reply right here, which I
thought was really interesting because
if you look at Grock's full uh uh
response here, I highlighted some of the
items. Must posting habit on X,
especially in recent years, shows a
pattern. He often reacts quickly to
trending topics, amplifies content that
align with aligns with his views or
interests, and doesn't always pause to
verify details. All right, I totally
agree with that, by the way. Totally
agree. But what's actually interesting
here is listen to this. Okay, I asked,
"Is Musk truthful?" And its reply, "It's
tough to pin down a definitive answer
about whether or not Musk spreads
disinformation or is mostly truthful in
his post because it depends on how you
define
truthful." Oh my god. The Grock
AI is now going to help us question,
well, what what actually is truth? This
is like robots taking over the world.
Like, no, no, no. You know what? You
might think they lied, but but wait a
minute. Which truth are we talking about
here? The truth or the
truth? It Grock literally goes on to
this section here. Critics point to
moments like his 2023 tweet calling him
an anti-semitic conspiracy
theory calling an anti-semitic
conspiracy theory the actual truth. Uh
he later apologized sort of or his
sharing of a fake headline about Trump
and Hitler in 2024 which he deleted
after he got called out. These suggest a
willingness to boost narratives that fit
his own world we world view even if
they're thin on facts. On the flip side,
Musk's fans argue he's just a guy
thinking out loud. He's not a news
outlet. They say his truth is more about
challenging the mainstream narrative
than sticking to nitpicky details. This
is so interesting because now the Grock
AI has been sort of transformed into
this this like hey you know like it's
not his job to tell you what the truth
is. It's not his job to nitpick the
details. So you know it's not lying it's
just it's just encouraging your own
world
view. Um, okay. So, then Grock says,
"So, does he spread disinformation?"
Yes, sometimes, especially when he's
reacting faster, playing to his base.
So, you still have a little bit of
edgginess here on Musk. Uh, is he mostly
truthful? Depends if you mean true to
his own perspective or if you mean
factually rigorous. Okay. I' I've never
seen this before. I've I've never asked
somebody for the truth and then had them
say, "Oh, well, you know, the truth
actually depends on if you're talking
about true to himself or like factually
true." Look, if you're like a mature
adult with an IQ of at least 70, you
should be scratching your head going
right now and saying, "This this is
loony." Like, this politics is turning
the world absolutely loony. And I have
no idea where this world is going to
go. Sympathetic chimp says gaslighting
robots. Yeah, seriously. That's that's
exactly what this is. And it's scary
because it makes you wonder like
honestly I try to use AI very very
little because I think there's going to
this freaking wheel sucks. Hold on. I
got these wheels for 18 bucks off
Amazon and they won't stay still. Gosh,
switch wheels. There we go. Oh, that's
so much better.
So, I try not to use when I research
artificial intelligence because it
forces me still to do the hard work. And
to me, it actually it it's easier for me
to learn and understand when I'm just,
you know, when when I'm actually doing a
lot of the research myself or really
fully formulating my own opinions and
I'm fact-checking them because it sort
of connects, I feel like, more synapses
in your brain than just sort of reading
a summary. And that's why I try to share
that in-depth perspective with you,
which is hard to do in short form
content or, you know, zingy tweets or
tweets or whatever. Uh but really uh
this is you know it makes you wonder
where is the world going to go if if we
can sort of edit the way chat bots
function to sort of make you question
what even the definition of truth
is bizarre. So we're going in a very
weird
direction. So, if I had to zingily
summarize this, uh, I guess the way I
would summarize this, uh, is, um, how
would we do
this? Probably say something like Elon
Musk's own Grock is now redefining what
the truth
is. Grock says when it comes to
determining whether Elon Musk spreads
disinformation or not, quote, "It
depends. if you mean true to his
perspectives or factually rigorous. Yes.
Now all of a sudden we're in a world
where the definition of true and fact
depends on what your political alignment
is. I'm not sure what the direction of
this is going to be in the long term. So
I mean I think that's that's kind of the
world we're in right now. Uh, and uh, I
don't know how I feel about it, but uh,
I I actually feel pretty conflicted
about it, but uh, this gives you a
little bit of an update on the Atlantic
story. Again, my opinion, it's sort of
like advice. If I could give practical
advice, which you could apply for, you
know, in your own world as well, use
Google chat. Use Google chat, use
advanced protection, use security keys.
You could even if you ever text people
on iPhone, you know, you could verify
people's identity by co, you know, like
they they give you little keys and you
can sort of link them. So if there are
any changes to somebody's profile, they
become unverified. You put little check
marks on your trusted contact, so to
speak. It's very fascinating. Uh and so
I do that with, you know, Lauren or
employees or otherwise. Uh and and the
only way you could do that is in person,
which is great. Uh so anyway, that
that's something to consider. But uh
there are practical ways to be more
rigorous and I honestly think the Trump
administration could take an opportunity
here to strengthen a their transparency
but also you know their operational
security because in the Atlantic stories
you multiple times hear them talk about
hey OBSCAC opsac opsac operational
security and it's so ironic because
they're literally talking about
operational security while failing at
operational security. Now, you know,
again, a lot of supporters for Trump are
arguing, hey, this is all just fake news
anyway because who cares? Donald Trump
is uh, you know, doing what's best for
the country and, you know, nothing
happened. It's not like the reporter
sent these messages to the Houthies, in
which case he'd be a traitor. I don't
know if that's the point, you know. I
think I think if the CEO of JP Morgan
and Chase gave me his login to access
everyone's bank account in the United
States who has a Chase account, you
know, like and then I logged in and I'm
like, "Oh my gosh, I see everybody's
bank accounts in the United States." It
does
that make Jamie Diamond's failure any
less bad? No. It's horribly bad and he'd
probably get fired as CEO. You probably
should see some discipline here as well.
Uh, you know, under any other
administration, I bet you would, but I
bet you the CEO of Jamie of JP Morgan
would lose their job if they did that.
Now, if somebody's like, "Oh, well, you
know, Kevin would have to have been a
criminal to leak the what he saw on
those bank accounts." And it's like,
okay, but that's a logical fallacy.
You're shifting the problem. You You're
going from, oh, they committed an error.
Yeah. Well, it doesn't matter because
that would only be a problem if another
person made a mistake or committed a
crime. But that doesn't resolve the fact
that a massive mistake happened. So,
uh, you know, but then again, the nature
of politics is people have to put on
their political veil and say, "Oh, well,
you know, I benefit from promoting Trump
or Musk, so I must continue to do that.
Uh, and I think this is problematic. You
get a lot of this, by the way, in uh,
and I see a lot of this, especially on
X, a lot of people posting things like,
"Oh my gosh, look, you know, buy uh, buy
Tesla is is skyrocketing on the Google
Trends search results." Yep. Well, maybe
that's because Trump buys Tesla
skyrocketed when he bought a Tesla. So,
and we have to be able to isolate these
things. But if you say that, you're
unpopular to the Tesla crowd. You know,
oh, you know, why you gotta be negative
about a positive story? Uh, and you
don't make a lot of friends with it
because the bears are already bears. So,
that's where social media sort of skews
the desire to actually share what
actually is the truth. Because in a
realistic example here, if the fact is
with certainty, if the certain fact is
Tesla search results are skyrocketing
because Trump buys Tesla is
skyrocketing. If that is the fact, then
the claim that oh Tesla scale sales must
be skyrocketing because by Tesla is
skyrocketing in the Google search
results is false. The claim is factually
false if it is true that they're only
skyrocketing because of Donald Trump
buying a Tesla. Now then you could make
a further claim that because Donald
Trump bought a Tesla search search
results might continue to be high for by
Tesla because now more people want to
join the bandwagon. Okay, but that's a
different
claim. And so that sort of argumentation
uh is very difficult I think for people
to process sometimes uh who who who
don't want to you know put in the effort
because it's not part of first reaction.
Uh even even using the word
argumentation implies argument like
people yelling at each other. But if you
ever taken or studied logic you
understand argument is simply you know
providing a claim and evidence. Uh a
well structured argument is one that
follows a logical flow. This is my
claim. Here's my evidence. Here's my
conclusion.
Therefore, that's an
argument. Uh, so that's my take on this
Atlantic story. Uh, and, uh, now it's
time to move on to the next story. Why
not advertise these things that you told
us here? I feel like nobody else knows
about this. We'll we'll try a little
advertising and see how it goes.
Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you. Kevin Praat there, financial
analyst and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always
great to get your take.
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