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She Survived a Knife Attack at 13… Now She Owns Multiple Businesses | Anuoluwa Aimufua –DOSI S1 E4

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Show your bully that you could be

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better. A bully actually came to one of

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my warehouses to apply for a job.

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>> Walking through that door and seeing

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that bully means a lot to me. I think my

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biggest motivation would be leaving a

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legacy behind [music] and the legacy is

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not just for the fun of it. It's for my

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children. I was able to obviously go to

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law school and qualified practiced for 7

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years and I knew that it wasn't for me.

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I love making money. I love making

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money. I did have it in me to be a big

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business person at that time.

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>> Wow.

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>> I opened my own salon at home while I

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was at uni. [music] And then bullying

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was very very pronounced because they

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would literally tell you to face that

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black monkey go back to your country.

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>> Then my first job was when I was 15. I

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was working at a school. It looked like

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you were never broke at all.

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>> We lost two or three of our properties

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during co [music] because we couldn't

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meet up with the payment. There was just

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so many outgoings. Thank you. So you are

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7 figure Amazon seller real estate

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investor, former legal agent. You have

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your own um bakery and load of things.

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How did business start for you?

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>> I love constant change. No matter how

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much I'm making, I want to be in control

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as well. I'm very spiritfilled and one

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of the biggest thing about me is like I

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I try to listen to God.

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>> Have you ever failed in business before?

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[music]

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story. It's not about the politics. It's

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about the journey to success.

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Welcome once again to this um amazing

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series and um it's been a journey thus

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far. I don't know the number of episodes

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I've heard and that you have watched

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thus far but trust me it's it's been

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like a learning curve for me. And why do

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I call it a learning curve is because

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I'm missing possibilities, you know, um

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things that you feel like they are very

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impossible for maybe people going to

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other countries. They're just like

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things that you start sitting in front

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of you. And trust me, today um somebody

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that is sitting in front of me is like,

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you know, when you kind of have like

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your future seated in front of you, it's

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it's what I like to describe this lady

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as. And um as I was reading your

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profile, let me actually just share how

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we how it all started. So uh our

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neighbor was like, "You need to test

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this bread and blah blah blah." I was

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like, "What's what's all the bread all

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about? [laughter]

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What's this noise? I mean, I've eaten a

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bread and love bread, but then she gave

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it to me. I was like, "Wo, yeah, this is

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different." And then my wife that

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doesn't give as much comments you get,

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she was just, "Yeah, it's fine." She was

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like, she texted me while I was at work.

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Where did you get that bread from? This

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is wo. I was like, yeah, we must buy

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more. And meeting you in person and

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reading your profile got blown away.

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Like, let me just I'll not start from

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the usual place like why did you leave

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your country? What was your motivation

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for doing all this? Like what's because

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I'm sure they've read they've seen your

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profile already. What's your motivation

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for all this?

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I think my biggest motivation would be

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motivation will be leaving a legacy

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behind.

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>> Okay.

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>> And the legacy is not just for the fun

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of it. It's for my children

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>> whereby we've gone through a generation

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of our parents seeing our parent grind

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um either as a nurse or as a 9 to5

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um parent. And we are now we are we have

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the generation of either running our own

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businesses or having a solid 9 to5

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>> and we're now building a legacy of

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wanting to leave something tangible for

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our kids so they don't have to work as

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hard as our parent did or as hard as we

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have done as well.

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>> Um what I would like to think is maybe

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you're even giving them a better

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platform for them to start. You get what

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I mean? So they can go on to become the

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likes of Elon Musk and what's he called

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now if Warren Buffett and the likes of

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those guys nowadays. Yeah. Um let me ask

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you so you are seven figure Amazon set

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seller re real estate investor former

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legal agent you have your own um bakery

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and load of things. How did business

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start for you? Or wait let's even trace

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it back. When did you leave your country

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and why did you leave?

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[laughter]

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>> Well, we are the generation of when our

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most parents are no well our parents

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decided to relocate here into the UK as

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either a nurse. I think we came from the

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generation of the nurses,

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>> okay,

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>> years ago, like I'm talking about 30

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over 30 years ago. and they brought us

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in really young um

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and we had to start our life from as our

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childhood from here.

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>> So how was childhood 30 years ago in

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this country for for a young girl?

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>> Interesting. It was hard to fit in

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because obviously we had to adapt in

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terms of accent in terms of um learning

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the culture. There was no internet so we

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just have to get going. So during that

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time we were heavily bullied. I remember

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my dad always going to school and

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fighting for me. And one day we got home

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he said I know if they touch you you

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touch them back.

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>> Wow.

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>> It was like tit for tat. So [laughter]

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we were heavily bullied. Um and then

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bullying was very very pronounced

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because they would literally tell you to

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your face that black monkey go back to

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your country.

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>> Whoa.

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>> Right in the middle of in the middle of

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class. So what are you going to do? And

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it's not like now that you actually talk

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about racism, then racism was something

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that they just let it go under the

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carpet.

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>> But likes of my parent, my dad

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especially, he it he take it wouldn't

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take any nonsense. And

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>> he also has a fighting spirit in him as

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a lawyer whereby he understood the the

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assignment of what racism was about.

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>> And I went through like being attacked

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with a knife as a young girl and so many

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more. Wait, wait, wait. You can't go

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past that. You were attacked with a

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knife as a young girl.

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>> Yes.

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>> How what happened? This

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>> I remember that day. I was coming from

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high school.

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>> At what age, if you can remember?

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>> I was 13.

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>> Wo.

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>> And [clears throat]

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these boys just cornered me. Obviously,

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they've been bullying me in school. And

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>> yeah, I'll come home, I would tell my

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dad. I'll come home, I'd literally cry

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and I'm upset. I'm angry.

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um teachers didn't want to do anything

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about it and a group of boys literally

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came after me and I remember running

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literally running home. We lived on York

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Park. I was there for more than 20 years

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>> and I got home that day. It was just

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like more or less like a near miss.

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>> Wow.

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>> And the police didn't do anything about

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it. We had some organization that were

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happy to racial racism organization. I

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couldn't forget Andrew. My dad always

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said that whenever he sees him in town

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now, he will always say, "How's Honey?"

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Han must be doing very well now. And

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they did try to support, they even gave

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me like a panic attack, panic attack um

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alarm whereby if you pull the alarm,

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everyone around you would hear and they

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would come out to your rescue. There was

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no internet. There was no Well, we had

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phones, but they were like more or less

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like those No phones. So, you can't even

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WhatsApp your mom. You just literally

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have those tiny

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phones to call your parent. And the next

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thing was the panic attack. It's really

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tiny black. You pull it and if it's loud

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enough, anyone around will come to your

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rescue. Um or either pepper spray. I'm

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not allowed to have pepper spray, but I

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had my alarm around me. And that was one

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of the happiness of growing up as a

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black kid in this kid.

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>> Yeah. do um I don't want to fogg your

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growing up experience so much, but were

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were there other black kids around that

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you could lean on to um around that

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time?

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>> I'll tell you mostly were Jamaicans and

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who I remember all their names right

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now. Jamaicans, mixed race, they've lost

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their identity. They think they're

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white. They think they're British. So

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they are one of the people. One of the

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markers I'd see him right now in Chapel

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Town is literally

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next to nothing. But I remember one day

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he was literally throwing a ball at me

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and kept on saying, "Oh, Anu, yo, Annie,

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what are you doing here?" [laughter]

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And he's also black. But because he

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thinks that

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>> it belongs here, because they gave birth

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to him, he thinks he's also English.

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>> Oh god.

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>> And that was like his own privilege. and

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gives that gives him the opportunity to

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bully another black kid. And my daddy

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went to school one day and said, "You

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are black, so why are you bullying my

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daughter?

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>> You I'm not African. I'm Caribbean."

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>> Yeah.

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>> So, yeah. So, you couldn't really lean

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on any other black person around you.

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>> So, let's take it up. Um, you finished

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high school and stuff. When did business

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start for you? How did business start?

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What was your first attempt of business?

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>> I think it would I'd say from childhood.

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>> Oh.

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Um, I was little. My dad had a poultry

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here at the farm.

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>> Okay.

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>> And it literally put me in the midst of

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those chicken to make sure that they get

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sold.

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>> Wow. At what age?

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>> I was

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I was 8, nine

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>> in the UK.

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>> No, we go back to Nigeria and holiday

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and things.

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>> Oh, okay. And

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I love the fact that we were introduced

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to him selling like he had poultry, he

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had fishery, he had pigs and the poetry

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was my passion then.

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>> Okay.

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>> And he would station me in one junction

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and be like I knew this has to sell

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because I'm going to get more.

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>> And I remember

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>> So you selling it in the market?

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>> Yes.

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>> Oh.

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>> I would never forget. And he said he

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said by the time I get there my daughter

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will be literally covered in dust from

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head to toe and I think that was the

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pinnacle state in

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>> oh

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so you sell state girl.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I obviously I inut

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too. I know all those

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>> on junction and all those.

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>> And then obviously my mom being a nurse

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then she would literally be at work but

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we had to obviously be around that.

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Okay.

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>> And just support him.

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>> To support him. Wow. So that was your

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what what was your first early memory of

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entrepreneurship? Like you starting out

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your own business or something like

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that?

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>> This would be when I was seven. And I

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remember like I love this coconut candy.

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By the time I figure out how to make it,

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I'd literally beg my grandma to buy me

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those coconut candy, shave it off, add

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sugar to it, and then make those little

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candy and beg everybody, especially my

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uncles, to buy it.

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>> Okay.

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>> Um, blessed memory of my uncle Yi, which

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is my one of my little dad's brother. He

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passed on in this country.

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>> He would, he calls me Yameto, which

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means like the woman that loves to prep

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things. And he would literally buy

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everything off me. And I love making

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money. I love making money and then when

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he finish buying it, I'll go back and

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make more because I know that it's

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coming back the following day to buy

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more. And from that moment, I think it's

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been in me

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>> to go into business.

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>> Wow.

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>> It's been in me to go into business.

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>> Yeah.

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>> So, um at that early age, were you

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saving the money or you were spending

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it? because I as a young guy if I'd made

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money trust me I'm going to spend it

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either like just go and play football

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and all those things with my friends and

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then uh life goes on

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>> I'll be honest with you every penny I

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made there was one type of biscuit then

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that biscuit was the most nicest biscuit

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>> ok biscuit [laughter]

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I spent all my money on ok biscuit

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>> I could I could relate [laughter]

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>> the square one of the roundro

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>> yeah the square one is called Shortcake.

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>> Shortcake. That's it.

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>> That's it.

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>> And the round one is all came. Yeah, I

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could I could relate that.

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>> I always have to go be the woman next

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door to buy your offer.

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>> Wow.

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>> And that was where all my coconut candy

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money went. [laughter]

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[clears throat]

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>> But actually taking it to the next

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level, when did you really like start

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stand start out business? Because it

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[clears throat] looks more like business

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has been quite natural for you. But um

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what's your earliest memory of making

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like big money? um or how did you start

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entrepreneurship in this country?

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>> I think my biggest memory would be

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>> or your earliest

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>> My earliest memory would be when I was

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in college.

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>> Okay.

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>> I set up an eBay account.

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I had this connect I'll put it that way

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because obviously my first job was when

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I was 15. I was working at a school rock

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well I'll call the name like a school

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wear center whereby they sell clothes

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for private school kids.

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>> Yeah.

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>> And

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I made so much money at that age. I

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think my take home then was around like

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105

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>> from walking in

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>> just walking. It was on York Road and it

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was

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>> you work in the school where

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>> it was they sell uniform to private

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school kids.

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>> But how are you making over 1,000 a

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month?

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>> Okay. Because by the time we're done,

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the parents, think about it, it's a

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private school.

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>> Yeah.

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>> The parents are loaded. And that was one

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of the reasons why I had it in mind that

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when I grow up and when I ser my kids,

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my kids are going to go to private

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school. And that's exactly what I did.

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>> Wow.

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>> Once they come in and they buy all this

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leads grammar school uniform, they'll

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tip us.

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>> Oh.

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>> So, at the end of the day, it literally

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bumped my take home from like maybe 900

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and something as a 15 year old.

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>> I wasn't on minimum wage. I think they

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gave us like a monthly salary.

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>> Okay.

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>> To over 1,500.

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>> Wow.

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>> And I think I was working there for like

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3 months. And I saved that money. I

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remember one day someone said to me that

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you know you can buy designer bag and

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resell.

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What I would do is I'll go to

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Selfridges, take pictures. This was

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obviously years ago. Take pictures, load

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them on eBay and then get people to bid.

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Once they start bidding,

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>> several people bid on it.

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>> Why? I don't know. but they love

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bidding. So when I get like three, four

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people bidding, the winner then buys the

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bag for maybe a,05 or 2,000.

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>> Then I'll sell that to the highest

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bidder. But then this is the trick. The

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next person below did bid 1,09. Then

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I'll email that person privately and say

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the highest bidder didn't want the bag

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again. Do you want it? Then I'll do it

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for the next two other people want.

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Obviously my margin is always there

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because I've already sold to the highest

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bidder. then sold to the next ISB then

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the third person. So I've made money in

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three different even though the profit

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margin for the last three people are not

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as much as the first person. Then I'll

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go back to selfreges and tell the girl

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that I want to buy the bags, buy the

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bags, package it and ship it.

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>> Wow.

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>> My dad saw the potential. There was a

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time I had 15 grand in my PayPal

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account.

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>> I was going to college and I went to my

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dad. I said I didn't want to go to

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school again. [clears throat and snorts]

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>> And he said to me, he said, "I know

16:37

where the problem is. [laughter] shut

16:38

the EB account down.

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>> Wow.

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>> I remember that they laid on my on the

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living room floor and I screamed. I

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cried. I was like, "He doesn't love me."

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He said, "No, I need to go to school

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>> and I need to qualify." I was like, "I

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want to do business." I was like, "No,

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you need to go back to school."

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[clears throat]

16:54

>> Before we come into business, do you

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think that decision actually was good?

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>> It was the best. It was a bit harsh at

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that time. Okay. because he did

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apologize later on, years later

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>> when he saw the potential in me. But

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>> I would have preferred him to channel

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and he knows I say this to him all the

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time to channel my energy into business.

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Maybe I'd have gone back to school

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>> and studied business

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>> and study something business related

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because I did have it in me to be a big

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business person at that time.

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>> Wow. So, um, fast forward, your eBay

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account got shut

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>> because you were making too much too

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much money [laughter] by your dad.

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[clears throat] And then, um, and then

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I'm sure you went to school and

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>> I did qualified as a lawyer.

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>> And I'm sure you did business in

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[laughter] school.

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>> Exactly.

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So, my dad always say something like, be

17:48

a professional student and he was big on

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be a professional student. M

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>> um he didn't want us to work because at

17:55

the end we had student loan students as

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a as an international um as a nom

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student you get paid a lot of money by

18:03

the government. So we're getting like

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maintenance grants.

18:06

>> Yeah.

18:06

>> Um so what my dad would say send the

18:09

money to me and every week it'll

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transfer a certain amount to me.

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>> Okay.

18:13

>> So whereby other parents might leave

18:14

their kids to manage your finance. My

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dad was very very controlling, which is

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a good thing because he wanted to know

18:20

exactly how we're spending it and what

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we're doing with it. So, you transfer

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the whole money to him and he sends it

18:25

back. That wasn't enough for me as a

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girl.

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>> And he didn't want us to work even

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though I tried to work and I was

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working. But on the side of it, I opened

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my own salon at home.

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>> Wow. So, in school?

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>> Yes. While I was at uni.

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>> So, how was the salon? How was it like?

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It was good because it was was at I was

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at Newcastle side. There was only one

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salon that was charging everybody £120

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to even have a fix like have their hair

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braided or fixed on.

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>> Okay.

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>> So I thought about it. This is a very

18:56

easy thing. If I charge £40, all I need

18:58

to do is four five installs.

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>> So I printed my business card from this

19:04

print and I started giving it out. So if

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I see anybody at uni, I do it. I do it.

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And before I knew I had a huge

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portfolio. So every weekend or every

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evening I have like four or five people

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I need to fix her for.

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>> Oh wow.

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>> And it's cash in hand. There's no bank

19:19

transfer. People pay your £40.

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>> Wow.

19:21

>> And Braden charge them £50. They'll pay

19:24

a play because they know how much Zenith

19:26

then was charging them.

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>> Was charging them.

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>> They know I al was also doing like home

19:31

service whereby I would go around

19:33

Middlesbrough then and get people's hair

19:35

done and they'll pay more and pay for my

19:37

transport as well.

19:38

>> Wow. [snorts] So wait, it looks like you

19:41

were never broke at any point.

19:43

[laughter]

19:44

>> Never

19:46

like it is more like from one level to

19:49

the other. [laughter]

19:51

>> From one level from one level of

19:53

business to the other. Yeah. Um walk me

19:56

through this. You you mentioned

19:57

something now. I know it's far away from

19:59

business. You said your dad was quite

20:01

controlling and it's a good thing. It's

20:04

difficult to actually see people say

20:06

that. uh was your can you expand on that

20:09

a bit and I want people to learn from

20:11

the fact that um when your parents are

20:14

doing some things there are times that

20:16

it's good for you. I'm not I'm not so

20:19

much tuned into like domestic they call

20:22

it domestic abuse or something around

20:24

there. But I got a lot of beaten from my

20:26

dad as a young boy [laughter] like in

20:29

Nigeria obviously but then I I used to

20:32

tell people up to date that if that guy

20:34

didn't vlog me as much as he did I'll be

20:36

a boss conductor now because I never

20:38

wanted to do anything like just play my

20:40

life out. So just tell me about the

20:42

controlling side what you enjoy why you

20:45

feel it's good. Mad is very firm.

20:48

>> Yeah.

20:48

>> He's very authoritative which is a very

20:51

I believe he's very good because I think

20:53

I see myself in him whereby he commands

20:56

respect. Just just even in talking

20:59

>> it commands respect and from that

21:01

authority I was able to build my

21:04

boldness from it.

21:06

>> He's a man of his word and because of

21:09

that that shaped me to be who I am

21:11

today. M

21:12

>> and I believe like he's also a leader

21:15

and because I see that in him I realize

21:18

that I actually have all those

21:21

attributes in myself

21:23

>> and talk about beating if you mess up

21:25

you get a dirty slap [laughter]

21:27

>> even here and he'll tell you that get to

21:30

school say something I'll send you back

21:31

home and right there I'll tell your

21:33

passport so you have to compose yourself

21:36

>> he's a man of his word like he'll tell

21:38

you this is how I want it to do and once

21:41

he calls your name and He says exactly

21:42

what he wants, you must adhere to it

21:45

because there is a consequences to it.

21:47

>> Yeah. I don't know if it's for the dads

21:50

of those days, but trust me, one thing I

21:52

knew about my dad, if I tell anybody

21:55

anything, is that my dad does stick to

21:57

his word.

21:58

>> Yes.

21:59

>> Yes. My dad says he will kill you.

22:01

[laughter]

22:02

>> You're gone.

22:03

>> Don't start telling your friends. I'm

22:06

telling you. He won't say we kill you.

22:08

But if he uses a word like I'll beat

22:11

you, no, you will get the beating. If he

22:13

says I'd slap you, you are getting it.

22:16

And one funny thing that I used to tell

22:18

people is when I was in school, I used

22:19

to make like an estimate of what I need

22:22

in a year. And I'll tell my dad that

22:24

this year I need like maybe 200k and

22:26

stuff and they come back from work and

22:28

be like, um, I'm going to give you

22:30

50,000. So, and the moment he saved that

22:33

50,000, I remember one time I didn't

22:35

want to go to school

22:36

>> because obviously

22:37

>> because of what he said, he wasn't

22:40

moved. It was like when you when it's

22:42

time and I just don't know, maybe it's

22:44

their generation, but let's come back to

22:45

this generation. So, finishing school

22:48

now,

22:49

>> how did you now get into the like the

22:52

forefront of business? What did you do

22:54

next after that? So obviously I was at

22:56

uni, came back home

22:59

>> um to do my law school here in Leeds at

23:01

BBP Law School.

23:03

>> Okay.

23:03

>> And obviously got married as well. I got

23:06

married pretty young as well.

23:07

>> Wow.

23:08

>> Yes.

23:08

>> Why in law school?

23:10

>> I like unique. [laughter]

23:12

>> Wow. And your dad agreed?

23:14

>> No.

23:15

>> Wow. I think that was my own way of um

23:18

rebelling and just to say that you know

23:21

what it was a huge it was a huge war but

23:27

I'm glad that I took that decision and

23:30

we ended up making friends like being

23:32

friends again but

23:33

>> because I'm his first daughter

23:35

>> okay

23:36

>> I'm his first child

23:37

>> and he would have loved to have a say

23:40

>> in my

23:42

in my um

23:45

in my decision,

23:47

>> but I took that power away from him and

23:50

he was a bit heartbroken,

23:52

>> which at the end of the day, for a child

23:54

that listens all the time, you would

23:56

always have that one moment that they

23:58

would rebel. And that was my one moment.

24:00

>> Okay.

24:01

>> Um,

24:02

>> but coming back home,

24:04

I was able to obviously go to law school

24:07

and

24:10

elected Dome that this is for me. This

24:12

isn't for me. M

24:13

>> qualified practiced for 7 years and I

24:16

knew that it wasn't for me.

24:18

>> So um I you knew it wasn't for you but

24:21

say I would think that while you were

24:23

practicing you were doing one business

24:25

or the other.

24:26

>> I was [laughter]

24:28

you can't do without business.

24:30

>> I was

24:32

>> I was I was I was I was baking cake.

24:36

>> I had a cake company. Um and during that

24:40

time as well I knew that I wanted to

24:42

start something relating to food.

24:45

>> Then I thought about it. I was like

24:47

right I'd love to cook. Then I started

24:49

making food. But one of the biggest one

24:51

was frying puff puff.

24:53

>> Wa.

24:54

>> Yes.

24:55

>> So [laughter]

24:56

>> frying puff puff.

24:57

>> But wait, how much do you make from

24:59

frying the puff puff?

25:01

>> So years ago, I'll say like eight nine

25:04

years ago. Even though flour then flour

25:06

was really cheap. Oil was cheap. Sugar

25:08

was cheap. Not like what we're paying

25:10

now. A tray of pop was £25.

25:13

>> Okay.

25:14

>> And people were happy to pay for it

25:16

because it was really good. And I don't

25:18

even know why I didn't bring you a trade

25:19

today. [snorts] It was really, really

25:21

good. [clears throat] And I would put my

25:25

mind that okay, that all I need to do is

25:26

sell 10 traits today.

25:28

>> All I need to sell is five traits today

25:30

depending on my mood. But I had my

25:32

measurements which was big. You know

25:34

what they compare say when we're small?

25:36

It was a big rubber rubber bucket. Once

25:39

I mix it, I knew that that bucket will

25:41

fetch me £250 a day.

25:43

>> Yeah. But how much do you make on that?

25:45

Like what's the what's the

25:47

>> What's the profit margin?

25:48

>> Yeah. Profit margin.

25:49

>> I'd spend £10 because flour, sugar, oil

25:52

was less than

25:54

>> Yeah. I spent £10

25:55

>> to make 250.

25:56

>> I think my highest overhead my highest

25:59

overhead cost was my tray and my time.

26:03

>> Wow.

26:04

>> Standing to fry it.

26:05

>> Yeah. But you you would I would assume

26:07

that you didn't spend more than 4 hours

26:08

frying everything.

26:09

>> No, not up to four hours. I was very

26:11

fast. Once you start learn once you

26:12

learn how to fry pop, you would you

26:14

literally turn out like a machine.

26:16

>> Yeah. So if you're frying for 3 hours or

26:18

4 hours,

26:19

>> it's still nothing but nothing. Yeah. I

26:21

bring money to my time then.

26:23

>> Yeah. That's £15 per hour. That's the

26:25

best you get as a fryer. [laughter]

26:28

>> 9 years ago, the minimum wage was like

26:31

£9.

26:31

>> Yeah. So [laughter] a good fryer, a top

26:34

scale frier will be collecting £15 which

26:36

is £45.

26:37

>> Yeah, that's a good one.

26:38

>> And then you still that means your

26:40

profit margin is still 180.

26:43

>> Still good.

26:43

>> Wow. But so how did you evolve into now

26:47

from um was it from the puff puff thing

26:50

that you evolved straight into property

26:53

or straight into Amazon selling?

26:55

>> No.

26:57

Once when we started the fourth puff, we

26:59

got bigger and obviously people knew me

27:01

as Anu's kitchen. If you mention Anu's

27:03

kitchen in leads, there's only one.

27:05

>> Yeah.

27:05

>> And we started doing weddings. And I

27:08

remember my first wedding. I turned up

27:11

in my little white Range Rover and a

27:14

fire because obviously I'm a lawyer, so

27:16

professionalism is always inside of me.

27:18

And that's why I said my dad's decision

27:20

and his toughness on me was the best

27:22

because

27:24

whatever I learned as a lawyer would

27:26

always be in me no matter what.

27:29

>> I turn up all professional and

27:31

[clears throat] everything must be

27:32

documented.

27:34

>> So that just made them

27:37

want to bet that this person would be

27:39

the best person to take over our event.

27:41

[clears throat]

27:41

>> And I remember charging over 20 grand

27:44

for that event.

27:45

>> Wo for their wedding.

27:46

>> One wedding. What did they eat?

27:48

>> It was table service. So I charged per

27:51

head.

27:51

>> Okay.

27:52

>> It was a table of we call it family

27:53

service whereby people will sit together

27:56

and I went in that wedding um

27:58

consultation and I said to them, "This

28:00

is it. This is it. This is it. This is

28:02

it. And this is what I'll be charging."

28:04

They went back and forth. They added

28:06

more stuff. I was charging and charging

28:08

and charging till we got to our final

28:10

bus stop. Wow.

28:11

>> But wait, how many people at 20,000? I

28:14

think we had like 250 250 guests.

28:17

>> Eat 20,000.

28:19

>> Yes.

28:19

>> Cuz they paid for so many they paid for

28:22

um [laughter]

28:24

and and what was your profit margin on

28:27

that if you'd like to

28:28

>> was over 50%. And out of bearing in mind

28:30

and out of their money I also paid for

28:33

all my because I didn't have anything.

28:35

>> Okay. So I still use their money

28:37

>> to pay for all the

28:38

>> to buy all my

28:39

>> material

28:40

>> starting equipment which was the bowls

28:42

and I still even have those bowls today

28:44

at my wedding venue.

28:45

>> Wow.

28:46

>> Yes.

28:47

>> So you had over 50%

28:50

>> profit. Yeah.

28:51

>> And then where did you move from there?

28:53

>> So that day I think after the event I

28:55

just sat down living room and I'm like

28:57

now I have this money what am I going to

28:59

do next? It's my head obviously churning

29:01

always thinking about the next thing and

29:04

an ad an advert came on on YouTube about

29:07

property and I [clears throat] was there

29:08

staring at you like property wow

29:12

what can I do property obviously my dad

29:14

being in this country and my pay mom

29:16

they have couple of properties that they

29:18

just bought here and there all around

29:19

leads and they're using it as normal

29:22

standard rent and I learned that you

29:24

could use your property as Airbnb you

29:27

could use your property as rent to rent

29:30

you. I was like, "Wow."

29:32

>> Okay.

29:33

>> So, I called my husband. I was like,

29:34

"I'm going to go for this training." And

29:37

we went for a training, one day training

29:38

in London. Came back and we decide to go

29:42

start with rent to rent. And from there,

29:44

we start buying our own property.

29:46

>> What is rent to rent?

29:47

>> Whereby you'd for example, I'll take my

29:50

parents property.

29:51

>> Yeah.

29:51

>> Rent it off them and then use as Airbnb.

29:55

>> Oh,

29:55

>> it was easy then.

29:57

>> Okay. Obviously, you made your you make

29:58

your money as quick as possible because

30:00

you're not having a huge overhead of

30:03

having to get a mortgage or buy.

30:06

>> Um, [clears throat] it was also easy to

30:08

do rent to rent because you won't have

30:10

to think about deposit for a mortgage.

30:13

>> Okay. Yeah.

30:14

>> So, manage to get two or three rent to

30:15

rent. You can raise your capital for

30:17

your next mortgage. So, we're able to do

30:20

that to raise a lot of capitals for our

30:22

properties that we own now.

30:23

>> Is rent to rent still available to date?

30:26

is available but very hard to secure.

30:28

There are some special tagline you would

30:30

have to use for even agent. I because

30:33

I've got experience can easily get rent

30:35

rent off an agent if you use the right

30:37

wordings

30:39

>> right um [clears throat]

30:40

>> like what

30:41

>> wordings so for example you not go and

30:43

say I want to rent your house to put on

30:45

Airbnb

30:46

>> okay

30:47

>> you have to come in professional let

30:49

them know why you want to rent the

30:50

property let them know

30:52

>> what you want to use this property for

30:54

>> okay

30:55

>> yes what do I want to use Airbnb no you

30:57

don't say Airbnb you let them know that

30:59

maybe potentially you want to have

31:00

corporate clients in

31:02

Who are your corporate clients? I have

31:04

corporate clients. I have doctors all

31:05

around the world that want to come and

31:06

stay with us. At the moment, we

31:08

[clears throat] have an 18bedroom Airbnb

31:10

and a 18bedroom Airbnb in Wakefield

31:14

>> and our corporate clients currently are

31:16

from Czech Republic, a glass company and

31:19

they are booking directly with us and we

31:22

have 18 bedroom. So, you can do the

31:24

numbers.

31:24

>> Wait, one month is I don't get it. like

31:28

1 month in a twobedroom

31:30

>> in a a single shared bedroom.

31:32

>> Oh, it's three grand.

31:34

>> Yes.

31:35

>> And then you have 18 of such

31:37

>> and they all coming in from Czech

31:39

Republic.

31:40

>> All they need to do is to stay, sleep,

31:43

bed, change,

31:46

and that's it.

31:47

>> No, I'm not getting it right. Like, let

31:49

me put that. Each person pays 30K.

31:51

>> No, not each person. In each room, each

31:53

room comes at 30K and you have 18 of

31:57

such.

31:58

>> Yeah.

31:59

>> Fully set up home away from home.

32:02

>> Okay.

32:03

>> Nice and luxurious for them to stay in.

32:05

>> Wow.

32:05

>> They rather stay in there because

32:07

they're new into the country. They want

32:08

to cook,

32:09

>> right? They're not from England.

32:11

>> So, they're happy to pay for that

32:12

comfort rather than going to a hotel

32:14

whereby they cannot cook. And

32:17

>> it might be cheaper to even stay in a

32:18

hotel, but they rather stay as a group.

32:21

a group together have like a community.

32:24

>> Exactly. [clears throat]

32:25

>> The 18 bed you have is it your own or is

32:29

rent to rent

32:29

>> s let's not get there yet. You you have

32:32

two more. Uh so now following the story

32:36

line you you kind of went into this

32:39

property uh you you went into food and

32:43

food to property. Why you start property

32:46

with you still running the food thing?

32:48

>> Yes. So we have to do a divide and

32:50

conquer. That's why sometimes it's great

32:51

to have a good supporting partner. One

32:53

thing I appreciate my husband for is

32:55

he's very supportive of every dream I we

32:58

both put down. So he decided that he

33:01

will be running the property

33:03

>> while I still handle the food business.

33:05

>> The food business. Wait, I I just want

33:08

to hope the answer to this is yes. Is

33:10

you're the same husband that you married

33:12

very young, right? Yeah. Thank God.

33:14

[laughter]

33:15

I was hoping like I would ask I won't

33:17

ask what I would have to cut.

33:20

[laughter]

33:24

So

33:27

>> please continue to like, continue to

33:29

subscribe, continue to comment and also

33:33

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33:35

story, please get across to us um just

33:39

by using um the contact details you can

33:41

see on the screen at the moment.

33:44

Diary of successful immigrants.

33:47

>> So walk me through it. How was it like

33:49

navigating yourself both of you as young

33:52

couples? Um in terms of like you were

33:54

young couples, you were running

33:56

business, you were in school. I would I

33:58

don't know if you was in school or not.

33:59

>> No, we both I it was like my final last

34:03

month of actually graduating. Okay.

34:06

>> When we got married, I was 21 going on

34:08

22.

34:09

>> Wow. Um he's just he was in the country

34:12

as a master student from Nigeria.

34:14

>> Okay. And he saw like a pretty lady and

34:16

was like no I'm not waiting longer.

34:19

[laughter]

34:21

>> Quite interesting. Yes. [laughter]

34:25

It was like oh yeah 6 months dating and

34:28

I was just like right I think that's it.

34:30

We're going to go for this.

34:32

>> But but how have you managed to stay

34:34

married with the whole achievements and

34:38

everything? Because one of the things

34:39

that is common is when people becomes

34:42

high achievers.

34:43

>> Yeah.

34:44

>> They start growing apart especially when

34:46

they start very young. How how have you

34:48

kind of kept it together?

34:50

>> To be honest, I don't know. One is crazy

34:52

and one is calm.

34:53

>> Oh, who is crazy?

34:54

>> I'm the worst. [laughter]

34:55

>> Oh yeah. I guess he knows and he's the

34:57

calm person.

34:58

>> So the calm one will always calm the

35:00

crazy one down.

35:01

>> I've got too much energy. So he's always

35:04

like potentially the one that just

35:06

cancel like don't worry everything will

35:08

be fine. I'm always on the move.

35:12

>> Okay.

35:12

>> Whereas he's like the calm one and he's

35:16

always wanting to be very calculative

35:18

whereby I'm [clears throat]

35:20

>> I'm full of fire.

35:21

>> Wait, are you are you resultoriented or

35:24

result motivated?

35:26

>> Resultori oriented. Um, so what I mean

35:28

is like having result on something

35:31

motivates you to do more. Am I right?

35:33

>> Yes.

35:34

>> Yeah. Because I I've noticed that if I

35:36

don't get enough results, I start kind

35:38

of getting tired and like [snorts] I

35:43

just I just kind of chill out.

35:45

>> I know. And that's when I want to even

35:47

fight for more.

35:48

>> Oh, serious.

35:49

>> So when I'm not getting the results I

35:51

want,

35:52

>> like for example, I'll use the bakery as

35:54

an example. where we are right now is

35:56

not very comfortable.

35:59

>> And I could have given up because it's

36:01

getting harder by the day because the

36:02

demand is really high.

36:03

>> Yeah.

36:04

>> I could have given up. But that's when I

36:06

was pushing for more. I was like, we

36:09

need a bigger bakery. We need to

36:12

literally expand. We need to we need to

36:15

we need to until I got the result which

36:17

is now having our own bigger bakery in

36:20

the center of Leeds. We're finding

36:22

places in Bradford, Debury. I kept on

36:24

saying no that's not where I want I want

36:26

somewhere that people can access people

36:29

can come to people can walk in and buy

36:31

their bread

36:32

>> and I got exactly where I wanted and

36:35

which which is was within 1 miles away

36:37

from lit centerow

36:39

>> around where very accessible on road

36:42

>> on um just I wanted to kind of pry into

36:46

something and I hope I'm I I get what I

36:48

want to get from this conversation

36:51

what what was it like um being married

36:55

young and just starting out life. Were

36:57

you broke at any point in time?

36:58

>> Oh yes we were.

37:00

>> Yeah.

37:00

>> Oh yes we were. [laughter]

37:02

I remember my law school [snorts] he had

37:04

to work both had to like figure it out

37:06

whereby he's he had to work um call

37:11

center in leads and because of his

37:13

humble nature his quality assurance

37:16

manager Ben managed to train train him

37:20

to be a business analyst because he

37:23

started as a keyway

37:24

>> which is a quality assurance person

37:26

marking calls and things and then he

37:27

realized that there's even some other

37:29

people that earn any more money and then

37:31

from there he started shadowing his

37:33

manager

37:34

>> and one day he was like do you want to

37:36

be a BA as well which is a business

37:38

analyst and that's how he got trained

37:40

and he started getting like promoted and

37:42

promoted from there he was able to get

37:43

his first contracting job

37:45

>> and years ago imagine obviously as a

37:48

young guy earning like 3 400 a day then

37:51

from there yeah

37:53

>> then as you know Nigerians it's easy for

37:56

them they're very smart easy for them to

37:57

have one or two contracts and was able

37:59

to obviously hold one or do contract

38:01

here and there

38:02

>> from there when we go into property he

38:04

said I want to resign that's how I gave

38:06

up

38:07

>> contracting

38:08

>> to go into business full time

38:10

>> business so let's start going into each

38:13

of them now how did you get seven

38:15

figures in Amazon like you're seven

38:18

figure Amazon seller how did you

38:21

>> how did you sell that [laughter]

38:23

>> yeah so when did Amazon selling actually

38:26

start for you

38:28

>> I'll say 2018

38:30

my 2017 actually and [clears throat]

38:33

today is the 17th. Am I correct?

38:35

>> Yes.

38:36

>> Marks it actually marks 8 years. I

38:39

started Amazon today.

38:40

>> Wow.

38:42

>> Yes.

38:43

>> 8 years today.

38:44

>> So what prompted it? How did you learn

38:47

about it? And what's the key behind it?

38:50

>> So I just had my daughter. She was 2

38:52

weeks old. My husband was working in

38:54

Glasgow then as um a project manager. I

38:57

was at home with two young kids alone in

38:59

the house very depressed angry

39:02

[clears throat] postnatal blue didn't

39:04

know what to do with myself and I saw

39:06

that people were selling on Amazon I

39:07

wanted to learn there was a fire in me I

39:09

just want to get out of this house and I

39:12

remember asking few friends about it I

39:14

later decided okay I'm going to self

39:16

learn few of my friends came to my

39:18

rescue they did show me the ropes on how

39:20

to do it and I go out there then Amazon

39:23

was easy to do you can just go to Aros

39:26

buy toys and sell.

39:29

>> And the fire was it was close to

39:31

Christmas. So I was it was easy for me

39:33

to go to AOS, pick up few toys, list it

39:36

on Amazon, send it off. I was like,

39:38

"Wow, I can get my money back." I saw

39:40

the profit. Imagine I went to buy more

39:42

toys. Then I'll carry my daughter

39:44

[clears throat]

39:45

just here in my car seat and I go from

39:47

every August. I had time. I'm a

39:49

full-time mom at home. Two young kids in

39:51

the back of the car. Why not? So go to

39:53

August. We'll load the car. we come back

39:55

home, send it to Amazon and that's how

39:57

Amazon started.

39:58

>> So, and then how where where are you

40:01

like how did you achieve the seven

40:03

figures [clears throat] because you like

40:05

the starting point is looking like

40:07

you'll be making [snorts] a profit

40:08

margin of £500 in a week or something

40:12

like that.

40:13

>> So, with with Amazon you have to be very

40:15

strategic.

40:16

>> You either leverage um your product or

40:21

other people's product.

40:22

>> Okay. So once you learn the your

40:25

strategy, everybody has their own

40:26

strategies.

40:28

>> So my strategy was about building my own

40:30

product line

40:31

>> and using my product line was either

40:32

sourcing for the product from China or

40:34

from the UK, bundling it together and

40:37

selling. And that was exactly what I

40:39

did.

40:40

>> So where am I? I'm a giver. I love to

40:42

give. I love gifting. I went into I

40:44

specialize in the gifting section.

40:46

>> Okay.

40:47

>> Just packing gifts, creating ampers. I

40:51

created ampers. We created ampers over

40:53

create ampers Valentine ampers mother's

40:56

day ampers father's day a hampers Easter

40:59

a hamper Christmas a h ampers think

41:00

about any hampers

41:02

>> so do you still create

41:04

>> dates

41:05

>> wow

41:06

>> dates

41:07

>> wow so you you guys are hearing and I

41:10

mean you're listening you can you can

41:12

have your own specialization on Amazon

41:14

in terms of like what you want to be

41:17

selling and before you know it trust me

41:19

you're a specialist there Um, so how did

41:23

you build it to the level that seven

41:25

figures is in millions, you get it? And

41:27

we're not talking about millions of

41:28

naira. [laughter]

41:32

>> Millions of pounds, which which is big

41:34

deal. Yeah. Yeah. How did you put it

41:36

together that you got to that level of

41:38

millions of pounds?

41:40

>> So when I talk about strategy, how do

41:42

you want to make your money?

41:43

>> I w I literally walked myself through

41:47

seasons. So we've got four quarters in

41:49

the year.

41:50

>> Okay. You got Valentine, [clears throat]

41:51

you got Mother's Day, you got Easter,

41:54

and you've got Christmas.

41:55

>> Okay,

41:56

>> Father's Day is not part of

41:58

>> Father's Day is [laughter]

42:00

it's actually not fair. Well is actually

42:02

one of our lowest selling months because

42:04

people don't really buy Git for daddies.

42:06

>> Wow.

42:07

>> It's quite sad, Dad.

42:08

>> Sorry guys.

42:10

>> You're actually the on favorite people.

42:14

[snorts]

42:14

>> So, we specialize ourselves. Okay. Which

42:16

one I which when is our highest making

42:20

money making season? Q4. So that starts

42:23

from the month of August, September,

42:25

October, November, December.

42:27

>> Put all my energy into that season.

42:30

>> No. Yeah.

42:31

>> Within that season, you've already done

42:33

like good amount of numbers.

42:36

>> And then before you finish Q4, which is

42:38

December, you're already preparing for

42:40

Valentine. Valentine, the earlier I

42:42

prepare for Valentine, you're already

42:44

killing it as well by January. And then

42:46

you're rounding that up. You're going

42:47

straight into Mother's Day because

42:49

they're like weeks apart.

42:51

>> As you're finishing that, you're going

42:52

straight into Easter. Easter comes in

42:54

different angle. Either Easter egg or

42:58

ampers. There's so many ampers you can

43:01

do for Easter. Then you have that little

43:02

rest into Father's Day, then back to

43:05

reset, summer, and K for again.

43:08

>> Yeah. Um what's it called? Uh

43:12

I I get it now. like you have like a

43:15

time schedule for all these things.

43:17

Yeah.

43:17

>> And specific products.

43:18

>> And specific products.

43:20

>> Yeah.

43:20

>> Yeah. Um you also do something of you

43:24

mentioned something about selling um

43:26

your what was it called now business and

43:30

can you actually explain why?

43:32

[clears throat]

43:33

>> So once you build your brand

43:35

>> Yeah.

43:36

>> And as everybody know now we are like

43:39

computer age whereby branding is very

43:42

important. Okay,

43:43

>> for every brand you build, always think

43:45

about what's the end goal

43:48

>> because people want to buy that

43:49

business.

43:50

>> Okay,

43:50

>> every brand has a value to it. And for a

43:54

business that's doing seven figures or

43:56

six figures, someone [clears throat]

43:57

wants it.

43:59

>> So far, you're happy to show that okay,

44:03

this brand will genuinely make you

44:05

money. There's someone waiting out there

44:06

that wants to pay for that brand.

44:08

>> Wow. So I would advise any business

44:11

owner to consistently or con to always

44:14

have it behind their mind that we're

44:16

going to brand this. We're going to I'm

44:18

going to put an IP which is intellectual

44:20

property towards my name.

44:22

>> So for example your name now diary of a

44:24

successful immigrant. Have you branded

44:25

it?

44:26

>> Um I would not like to say as much as

44:29

[laughter] possible

44:30

>> because I could wake up right now

44:32

tonight and actually brand it and take

44:34

it over from you.

44:36

>> Okay.

44:36

>> Then let's fight in court.

44:38

>> Wow. But obviously won't do that.

44:40

>> But one thing I'll say as my own golden

44:42

nugget, put your brand and trademark to

44:44

this.

44:45

>> Okay?

44:45

>> Because next in the next few years, you

44:47

might become one of the biggest podcast

44:49

owner and you might want to sell it on.

44:51

>> You're worth millions because you have

44:54

value. You're bringing people on to this

44:56

show. You've got brands that will be

44:58

obviously coming towards you very soon.

45:00

Anywhere I'll be on this table as well

45:02

sponsoring

45:04

the episode. Yeah. Obviously,

45:08

we and new era would going to do

45:10

something together for season 2. Um, now

45:13

talking about selling your brand, what's

45:15

the highest you've made from selling a

45:17

brand?

45:19

>> I say quarter of a million.

45:20

>> Quarter of a million. What? Just selling

45:22

a business name?

45:23

>> A business. Not just a business name.

45:25

It's a thriving brand.

45:28

>> Okay.

45:28

>> In the US, obviously, we're selling some

45:31

of our products in the US.

45:32

>> Okay. Yeah.

45:32

>> And when it was harder to move into the

45:35

US, all I needed to do was to put that

45:37

brand for sale.

45:38

>> Oh, okay. So, you also sell in the US.

45:41

Is it via eBay or via Amazon?

45:44

>> Amazon.

45:45

>> So, some of your listings here were kind

45:47

of going into the US.

45:48

>> Yes, it's the US.

45:49

>> Wow. I I think your strategy needs to

45:53

actually be studied.

45:54

>> No, [laughter]

45:55

stay away.

45:57

>> The thing is, have you ever thought

45:58

about writing a book?

46:00

>> Um,

46:00

>> maybe when [laughter]

46:02

Maybe when I find the right person to

46:04

support me to do that.

46:05

>> Yeah. Because I feel that some of the

46:08

strategies you we are kind of like just

46:10

talking about now they are like

46:12

highlevel like business guru kind of

46:15

strategy that you you just kind of click

46:18

on it and before you know you you're up

46:21

onto the next thing. Um I want to stay

46:24

pry into your property life.

46:26

>> Okay.

46:27

>> A bit more. Uh what um beyond the rent

46:31

to rent, how were you able to kind of

46:33

now acquire much property? You said you

46:35

have a property now of 18 rooms in your

46:38

field. I know you have more than that.

46:40

You

46:41

>> how were you able to accumulate as much

46:43

as that?

46:46

>> I go through a strategy called buy,

46:49

refish, refinance, and you just rinse,

46:51

repeat, rinse, repeat. It sounds easy,

46:54

but that's exactly what it is. M

46:56

>> you get a property, you do it up because

46:59

we our model is Airbnb.

47:01

>> Okay.

47:01

>> Um if you have a good strategy for the

47:03

Airbnb, we obviously specialized in big

47:07

party group. As you can tell, all our

47:09

properties are not just one bed, two

47:11

bed, they are big bedding. I call them

47:14

big beders whereby for group of people.

47:18

>> So we work with corporate companies like

47:20

the council, like NHS whereby when they

47:24

pay they pay big. They don't just pay in

47:26

pennies.

47:27

>> So that kind of bulk money they're good

47:29

to

47:30

>> use for

47:31

>> new investment.

47:32

>> New investment. So for example when the

47:35

COS um doctors were coming into the

47:37

country our property was one of the and

47:39

it's very close to the Perfield

47:40

hospital.

47:41

>> Okay. and just reached out to us and say

47:43

we'd like you to host a couple of

47:45

doctors and we did. Majority of the

47:47

doctors are still like really good

47:49

closenate friends with my husband

47:52

because they've that literally bought

47:54

their own houses and they're reaching

47:55

out to my husband now or

47:58

>> can you guide me on this can you guide

47:59

me on that because we were able to

48:02

support the NHS and they were paying in

48:04

big bulk pay like funds. Just to put

48:07

context into this, are you the owner of

48:09

that doctor's lodge that the Pinda Feed

48:12

Hospital uses is a bit is I've dropped a

48:15

doctor there before is some like 2 3

48:17

minutes or 5 minutes drive from there.

48:20

>> Ours is ours could be I'm trying to see

48:23

how far. No, ours is like close to 8

48:25

minutes drive, but it's definitely not

48:26

called Doctor's Lodge.

48:28

>> So, no, I just know that new doctors.

48:31

>> It might be because obviously my husband

48:32

handles all the property.

48:34

>> All I see is the earnings.

48:35

>> Okay. [laughter]

48:37

before like you're coming from Wakefield

48:39

is before you get to the hospital the

48:41

Pinderfield one I know

48:43

>> is very close to the Trinity Stadium

48:46

>> Trinity I I I don't know but I know this

48:50

place because one of the doctors was

48:52

stay like

48:52

>> oh no doctor's lodge would have been

48:55

actually owned by the NHS if I'm correct

48:57

>> okay

48:57

>> yeah [snorts] doctor's because that

48:59

would be something that NHS then but

49:00

it's not that much property there

49:02

>> no yeah so and doctor's lodges would

49:05

obviously be temporary

49:06

Yeah. How many properties do you have

49:09

now?

49:10

>> I don't want to I would not want to

49:12

mention but yeah [laughter]

49:13

>> like but let's let's see how many rooms

49:16

can you can you say?

49:17

>> I say close to 60 if I'm correct.

49:21

>> 60 or more.

49:22

>> Wow.

49:22

>> And this is obviously just overhearing

49:24

what my husband was saying the other

49:25

day. Yeah.

49:28

>> This episode is proudly sponsored by

49:31

Kofa Juice. Rooted in culture, brewed in

49:35

honor.

49:37

>> Diary of successful immigrants.

49:40

>> Um, how did you find yourself into

49:41

bread? Like what brought about bread?

49:44

You already making money. Why stress

49:46

with bread again? [snorts]

49:48

>> To be honest with you,

49:51

[clears throat]

49:52

I love constant change.

49:53

>> Okay.

49:54

>> And earlier this year, I had so much

49:56

that was going on in the space of my

49:59

business and I just wanted a change.

50:02

>> Yeah. And I think one of the biggest

50:03

thing about Amazon is the fact that

50:06

there's one big god called Jeff Bezos,

50:09

wherever he is, that controls your

50:11

earnings.

50:13

>> And they [clears throat] make this he he

50:15

makes the decision. So think about it.

50:18

You're selling on this platform.

50:20

It's taking 30 close to 30% of whatever

50:22

you're making

50:23

>> of your profit

50:24

>> of your profit. And

50:28

it's for me as much no matter how much

50:30

I'm making I want to be in control as

50:32

well.

50:33

>> So I decided to obviously go back to my

50:35

own higher authority which was God and I

50:37

said I wanted I want to change and

50:39

during that time I had very clearly go

50:42

back to your pinnacle. I'm very

50:44

spiritfilled and one of the biggest

50:47

thing about me is like I I try to listen

50:49

to God

50:50

>> and I remember seeking his face for so

50:52

many days and I heard go back to your

50:55

pinnacle. Go back going back to my

50:57

pinnacle means going back to my

51:00

beginning which is obviously Anna's

51:01

kitchen but I don't want to cook anymore

51:03

>> and I heard the word bread.

51:05

>> I didn't know anything about bread.

51:08

I didn't know what to do. I just had to

51:12

start. I just had to follow that word

51:14

bread. And from the moment I had the

51:17

word bread, I took that vision and I ran

51:19

with it.

51:20

>> From not knowing how to bake, from not

51:22

knowing how to how to formulate baker's

51:26

percentage.

51:28

>> I just had to trust the process which

51:30

was God. I asked so many people for

51:31

help. I asked so many people for

51:34

support. But they had to let me down

51:36

>> because God needed to show that he was

51:38

in the journey. And through that

51:40

journey, it proved to me that it was an

51:43

instruction from him. And even up to the

51:46

name New Era, I wasn't able to name that

51:48

bread new era. I was just praying one

51:50

day and God said, "Go to this person,

51:52

ask her for the name." And this, she's

51:55

my evangelism partner and

51:56

[clears throat] she looked at me and

51:57

said, "No era."

51:59

>> Yeah. We I want you to share this story.

52:01

You said that um we we [clears throat]

52:03

had this conversation off camera before

52:05

and you mentioned about the fact about

52:08

the time that God woke you up and I want

52:11

you to share that because it's kind of a

52:13

bit profound

52:14

>> from the moment I heard the word bread.

52:18

>> Mhm.

52:19

>> I remember help asking for some someone

52:22

that already works in the bakery to give

52:24

me recipe and help me out. This person

52:26

let me down on so many occasions. drove

52:29

all the way to Manchester for this,

52:31

still letting me down. And I remember

52:33

coming home and I prayed, I cried that

52:36

night. I said to God, I said, "God, I

52:38

need you to show me exactly that you are

52:41

the one that gave this vision." That

52:43

same evening,

52:45

my evangelistic partner was on the phone

52:47

and I said to I said, "I can hear what

52:48

God is saying." He thought it was a

52:50

joke. I took my pen and paper and I was

52:52

writing. I have a book that I wrote so

52:54

many recipe that failed. But on this

52:56

occasion, this recipe did not fail

52:58

because all I said to God was that it

53:00

needs to work.

53:01

>> And as I was, it was going through each

53:03

failed recipe and God would say, "That

53:04

one, that one, that one." I could hear

53:06

the Holy Spirit. We're joking. She was

53:09

talking, I was mixing. Immediately, I

53:12

put the bread in the oven. Bread came

53:13

out. It was exactly what we wanted. It

53:16

was soft. It was fluffy. It was

53:18

beautiful.

53:19

>> Wow. And I showed her, I remember

53:21

kneeling down in my kitchen and I sang

53:23

the song, all the glory must be unto God

53:25

because he was the one that gave me that

53:26

recipe. Nobody stood by me apart from

53:28

Holy Spirit that walked with me that

53:30

night.

53:31

>> Wow.

53:31

>> And when I finished, I heard the word

53:33

and say that God of God saying, "Take

53:35

this bread to two stores."

53:37

>> As I got to those stores, the owner of

53:39

the stores did not choose the bread. It

53:42

was the customers that walked in and

53:44

said they wanted to buy the bread. And I

53:46

remember both owners saying they are

53:47

samples, but just because they wanted to

53:50

fuel your righteousness, they allowed

53:51

the customers to pay for it

53:53

>> and they took the bread away. And that

53:55

was the sign. And God said to me, he

53:56

said, "That is a sign to show you that

53:58

this bread is going to be a global

53:59

demand."

54:00

>> And right there, I was I was like, "So

54:02

what we going to call this bread?" And I

54:03

heard the word, "Go and meet this

54:05

person. She will tell you the name." I

54:07

drove all the way from Wakefield to

54:08

Dubsbury to ask for the name of my

54:11

bread.

54:11

>> And that was how New Era came through.

54:14

And during that journey, God said, I'm

54:16

going to take you through through the

54:17

journey to the new era.

54:19

>> Wow. When talk me about technology. Uh

54:23

what's also you also into technology?

54:28

What what's up with technology? What are

54:30

you also doing there?

54:32

>> Um I love AI artificial intelligence and

54:36

I'm currently doing my doctorate degree

54:39

in

54:41

artificial intelligence. W

54:43

>> at the University of York and one of the

54:47

biggest thing for me is we are moving

54:51

very fast. Speed of light

54:54

>> we need to understand that everything AI

54:57

is coming to take over

54:58

>> and it's only people that pivot that

55:00

would work with it. So during that the

55:03

time of my my waiting season, I started

55:05

learning how to use to build agents,

55:08

chat agents that can run our businesses

55:11

because we have a wedding venue. And one

55:13

of the first agents we built, myself and

55:15

my husband, was an agent that can

55:17

actually speak to customers without we

55:20

being in there

55:21

>> that can take bookings and actually

55:23

complete a booking

55:24

>> process

55:25

>> process without human in loop.

55:27

>> Wow.

55:28

>> And we successfully did that.

55:29

>> Wow. and any organization would need

55:32

that. So what I'll do is I'll go to

55:33

maybe a dentist and say right I can

55:35

build you an agent.

55:36

>> I've had to put you on hold now because

55:38

of the bakery but it's something that

55:39

will be taking on board again from next

55:42

year.

55:42

>> Um yeah I I'll start rounding off now

55:45

but I wanted to say so you started

55:48

business let's assume you start business

55:50

officially after uni. Now, how many

55:53

years is that?

55:57

>> I'll say that's 15 15 16 years ago. 16

56:01

years ago.

56:02

>> 16 years ago.

56:03

>> And if you want to kind of mention your

56:05

business net worth now in the orders of

56:08

how many millions? Tens of millions or

56:10

hundreds of millions?

56:11

>> No.

56:13

No. I don't know. Maybe we need to get

56:15

my my accountants to do the valuation.

56:18

But

56:18

>> about saying the orders of tens of

56:20

millions.

56:20

>> I don't know. [laughter] I understand my

56:23

network.

56:24

>> You would not want to confirm.

56:27

>> Wait, it's not even tens of millions.

56:29

I'll be talking about hundreds of

56:31

millions.

56:31

>> Oh, yeah. We'll get there. We'll get

56:32

there.

56:32

>> Yeah, because we're talking about 60

56:34

rooms and all these things and

56:36

>> but then there's their numbers.

56:38

>> No, no, no. I'm just saying like when

56:41

people say Tesla is worth or what's it

56:44

called? Um, Elon Mus is worth this

56:46

amount. You get what I mean? People are

56:48

talking about Tesla and all those

56:49

things, but then it's not just here.

56:51

>> We'll take that off camera. [laughter]

56:53

>> Yeah, we'll take that off camera.

56:55

>> We take that from my village people are

56:56

calling me.

56:58

>> Yeah. [laughter and clears throat] But

56:59

what why I'm trying to just put numbers

57:01

perspective to that is I want to tell

57:03

our viewers and I want to show to our

57:06

viewers what you can achieve. You get

57:08

what I mean? So, you know, there are

57:10

people that set a target of I want to

57:12

make my million within the next 20

57:15

years. You get what I mean? first

57:16

million pounds blah blah blah you get

57:19

what I mean and all those things but

57:21

while I was putting a bit of context to

57:25

that is to show them that within a 15

57:28

year time space you get

57:29

>> it's achievable

57:30

>> it's achievable what's your biggest

57:33

downfall because it looks like it's all

57:35

been rosy you just pop up with this new

57:37

idea it passed the next idea it passed

57:41

you ever failed in business before

57:43

>> I failed very well I failed

57:46

professionally I failed excellently.

57:49

>> Wow. Can you share one or two?

57:51

>> Investing in the wrong product.

57:53

>> Okay.

57:53

>> So remember in 2022 when um World Cup

57:56

was ongoing that year. Prior to that we

58:00

had a very fantastic summer because it

58:02

was the coronation year where the queen

58:05

had her 70th coronation. Okay.

58:08

>> Um, we sold a lot of merchandise and I

58:10

did so excellently and I'm not talking

58:12

about in tunes of thousands. I did

58:15

hundreds of thousands. So excellently.

58:18

One line did over 150,000.

58:20

>> Wow.

58:20

>> And I was confident that because I did

58:22

so well that summer

58:25

>> I can actually replicate that for World

58:27

Cup. World Cup was in Qatar

58:30

>> between November and December.

58:32

>> And at the same time it's Christmas.

58:35

They've stopped English people from

58:37

drinking. So automatically people that

58:39

were going there to watch the football

58:41

didn't even bother. So we've already

58:43

invested in a lot of merchandise. We've

58:45

ordered a lot from China, from suppliers

58:48

ready to push it out in hundreds of

58:50

thousands bang when it was time. I think

58:52

I only sold 10k worth of product.

58:54

>> Wo.

58:55

>> So the rest did not move.

58:58

>> So what did you do to the rest?

59:00

>> We had to bring in a container. We're

59:01

paying story J. It was it was a lot but

59:06

do you know what you lose you win some

59:08

you fail some you lose some and that was

59:10

my own biggest loss

59:12

>> biggest was tell me another law story

59:14

that you have actually in business I

59:15

want

59:16

>> property during co

59:17

>> okay

59:18

>> um we actually obviously lose we lost

59:21

two or three of our properties during

59:22

COVID because we couldn't meet up with

59:24

the payment there was just so many

59:26

outgoings Airbnb was down because our

59:28

Airbnb was our bread and butter then

59:31

>> and we couldn't host any party guest.

59:33

Bearing in mind that we have big houses,

59:36

five bedrooms, six bedrooms that would

59:38

host party guests. So, we specialize to

59:41

that's why I said in business always

59:43

have a strategy.

59:44

>> What is your strategy?

59:46

>> Our strategy was we wanted party guests.

59:49

People that will come into leads, rent

59:52

our property, stay for the weekend, and

59:54

pay us a grand. So, you have 10

59:56

property, you're already making 10 grand

59:57

that week. Mhm.

60:00

>> So because our strategy was party guests

60:02

and they are huge properties, we

60:04

couldn't host party guests. Those

60:05

properties were shut down during

60:07

lockdown.

60:08

>> So few of them that we had to return we

60:11

had to return the keys back to the bank.

60:13

>> Yeah.

60:13

>> Wow. That is

60:17

that is a deed of the law in terms of

60:19

like losing. So if I want to ask you how

60:23

many business do you have running

60:25

concurrently at the moment?

60:28

I say five. [clears throat]

60:29

>> Whoa.

60:31

[laughter]

60:34

Whoa.

60:37

>> Yeah. Um, what's your biggest advice to

60:39

anybody that is actually trying to start

60:41

a business?

60:42

>> Never give up.

60:43

>> Never give up.

60:45

>> Yeah.

60:45

>> As in never give up.

60:47

>> Um, I think my producer is already

60:50

looking at me that I need to kind

60:51

[laughter] of this episode now. Yeah. So

60:54

let me let's let's kind of wrap this up

60:57

with some quick fire question. Uh

61:01

um I would start with what was the first

61:04

breakthrough moment that made you

61:05

believe that greatness was possible in

61:07

business?

61:09

>> I [clears throat] think it was it was

61:12

our Airbnb business.

61:14

>> Oh okay.

61:15

>> Yeah. I think the first time we made our

61:17

first 10K I was like wow this is good.

61:20

We can do this.

61:22

>> Wow. Thank you. Within

61:23

>> in a week.

61:24

>> One weekend.

61:25

>> Wow.

61:26

>> Yeah.

61:27

>> So, you say

61:28

>> we can do this. We can replicate this.

61:30

We can do more.

61:31

>> Wait. How does it feel when you kind of

61:33

make a lot of money?

61:34

>> It feels good. [laughter] It feels good.

61:38

>> You just lie down there. You're just

61:39

like, "Right, what next?"

61:41

>> What? Uh, you just like,

61:44

>> what does it feel like? Have you

61:46

actually lived on check to check from

61:49

one check to the other as well? So what

61:51

was difference between both is for

61:53

somebody maybe like just out there still

61:55

living on check to check and he's

61:58

thinking should I go into business

61:59

should I not blah blah blah and all

62:01

those things

62:02

>> my biggest advice to such person is

62:03

think about it what have you got to lose

62:06

currently you're living on check to

62:07

check why don't you take a gamble on

62:09

yourself to go into your own hustle

62:11

that's if the person has it in them

62:14

either you upskill or you go into your

62:16

own hustle to get you to make more

62:20

money.

62:20

>> More money.

62:21

>> You've got nothing to lose.

62:23

>> Yeah. Back to our quick fire question.

62:26

Was there someone that believed in you

62:28

um even more than you believed in

62:30

yourself for business?

62:33

>> I would say my biggest supporter is my

62:35

husband.

62:35

>> Okay.

62:36

>> He believes in ME SO MUCH. SOMETIMES I'M

62:39

ALWAYS WORRIED FOR HIM. [laughter]

62:41

>> WAIT. What's the What's the craziest

62:43

idea you've given to your husband that

62:44

you want to do as business?

62:46

>> Move to Saudi Arabia.

62:48

Seriously?

62:49

>> Yeah. To start a business there.

62:51

[laughter]

62:55

And what did he say? [laughter]

62:57

>> You're crazy. But guess what? He brought

62:59

his laptop out and he was looking for

63:00

the was looking for our next flight to

63:02

Saudi.

63:03

>> Wow. Wow.

63:04

>> But as myself, I'd carry myself to God

63:08

and started praying.

63:09

>> Shall I? Because the Bible says David

63:10

inquired and said, "Shall I shall I

63:12

not?" And I did. Exactly. I didn't hear

63:15

from God. And one thing my spiritual

63:17

father would say is I do not take God

63:18

silence as an authority to move further.

63:22

>> So that silence was don't go and I had

63:24

to stay back.

63:26

>> Yeah. Um turning talking about um like

63:28

your growing up in this country. How did

63:30

you turn cultural differences into

63:33

strength you know like all those

63:35

bullying and everything that you went

63:37

through. How did you turn it into

63:38

strength?

63:40

>> We had two option. either I become one

63:42

of those

63:45

mentally depressed messed up child or

63:49

>> show your bully that you could be

63:51

better.

63:54

>> I think that was my strength.

63:56

>> And I think one of the biggest part of

63:58

it is a bully actually came to one of my

64:02

warehouses to apply for job.

64:04

>> Whoa.

64:05

>> Walking through that door and seeing

64:07

that bully means a lot to me.

64:10

>> Wow. Did the person recognize you?

64:12

>> He did.

64:13

>> He did.

64:13

>> He did.

64:14

>> Wow.

64:14

>> Obviously, I interviewed him. I wasn't

64:16

going to hire him.

64:17

>> No, I would have.

64:19

>> No, I wasn't going to hire him.

64:20

>> I would hire him. [laughter]

64:23

>> Should I?

64:25

>> I wasn't going to hire him.

64:28

[laughter]

64:29

>> Do you know what? Such people will have

64:31

a resentment because you're now doing

64:32

better than them.

64:33

>> No, but but then let's just let's let me

64:36

just wear my Nigerian cap for a

64:38

[laughter] moment. I said I could hire

64:40

him at five after two months.

64:43

>> Well, the truth is the legal part the

64:46

legal brain in me would not want any

64:48

litigation.

64:49

>> So, I'd rather not even start a battle

64:51

that I cannot finish. So,

64:54

>> I didn't I didn't I didn't I didn't

64:55

progress with it.

64:56

>> Yeah. No problem. So, um at the moment,

64:59

what what legacy are you building for

65:02

the future?

65:04

A

65:04

>> legacy?

65:05

>> Yeah.

65:06

>> Of sustainability.

65:08

a legacy that my children don't have to

65:12

work like a platform that they don't

65:13

have to work hard. They don't have to

65:16

work crazy to be able to push things

65:18

further.

65:19

>> Yeah.

65:19

>> A legacy of

65:24

self-sufficienc

65:31

just just to say enough at this time.

65:33

>> Nothing. There's there's no amount of

65:36

money we make. That would be enough.

65:38

>> Wow.

65:38

>> Maybe if I win a lottery, I'll give up

65:40

and just say I'll go and rest.

65:42

>> But wait, how much lottery do you want

65:44

to win? That would be bigger than what

65:46

you have at the moment.

65:47

>> Maybe maybe if I win lottery

65:50

>> 1 billion pounds

65:50

>> maybe. Yeah. I'll then go to an island

65:52

and but I won't even stop working

65:54

because if I stop then I'm sick.

65:57

>> Wow. [laughter]

65:58

>> I have to keep going.

66:00

>> Um

66:03

I don't know.

66:05

So uh what's what's next for you? What

66:07

business idea is kind of [snorts]

66:10

kind of playing around your mind at the

66:12

moment now?

66:13

>> No, at the moment we're just at the

66:16

moment we're working actively.

66:17

>> I know new era is what you're working at

66:20

actively and it's kind of gradually

66:22

getting it forward but I I I feel there

66:25

would already be something in your head

66:27

saying

66:28

>> this might be looking like the next

66:30

thing.

66:30

>> Yes, there is actually.

66:32

>> Yeah. What is it? Don't worry nobody

66:34

will do it. [laughter]

66:37

>> I think there is um

66:40

there is a shortage of and nobody would

66:43

do it definitely.

66:44

>> Yeah.

66:44

>> But there's a high demand of our African

66:48

food in the country

66:51

>> high demand.

66:53

So as a business owner you be thinking

66:56

what's next? Do you realize that there's

66:59

a like there are planes that are going

67:00

to be shortly from

67:03

a route to London?

67:04

>> Wow.

67:05

>> Every two days.

67:06

>> Every two days.

67:08

>> So think about it.

67:09

>> Wow.

67:09

>> Are you are we going to sit on the

67:11

sideline or are we going to invest in

67:13

it?

67:14

>> So that's the next line.

67:15

>> As you were saying that, what I even

67:17

thought you wanted to say is you want to

67:18

start growing some of our African food.

67:20

Yeah.

67:21

>> That's part of it to London. So

67:24

[laughter]

67:26

that's fine.

67:26

>> I've already got my numbers.

67:28

>> Yeah.

67:28

>> Um I've already got the statistics of

67:31

what food would grow, what food would

67:36

would mature within weeks

67:38

>> such as chili pepper, hydroponics.

67:40

>> Yeah, hydroponics. That's what I was

67:42

thinking.

67:42

>> Hydroponics. We're actively working on

67:44

it.

67:44

>> And then you get set up a greenhouse and

67:46

all these

67:47

>> hydroponics

67:48

farmland and things which

67:50

>> these things which the government

67:51

supports a lot.

67:52

>> Yes. and I have poetry that has

67:54

obviously opened our mind to that. So

67:56

that's obviously has enabled us to move

67:59

further into the farming world.

68:01

>> Yeah. Two two things before we go. Can

68:04

can you can can we get some of our

68:07

viewers um especially in this country?

68:10

Yeah.

68:10

>> That trying to break into the business

68:13

what is it called now? Business

68:16

um space in this country. Can you mentor

68:18

them for a month?

68:20

>> I'd love to.

68:21

>> Yeah. So giving back

68:22

>> I would I I can make sure I organize 10

68:26

and then you give them one hour one hour

68:28

sessions you get what I mean for like

68:31

four weeks we can organize the time. So,

68:34

if you're watching this, you get what I

68:36

mean. And um if you if you want if you

68:39

just kind of want to be mentored into

68:41

doing proper business, I'd say that

68:44

like, share, subscribe, share it as much

68:47

as you want on thread, on Twitter,

68:50

sorry, on X, on uh Facebook, Instagram,

68:54

comment on what's it called? On YouTube,

68:56

let us notice you that you want it. Now,

68:59

as much as you want it, that that's what

69:01

you would get. So just go on our page,

69:03

keep saying I want it everywhere you can

69:05

and interact with it and trust me you

69:08

you would obviously get your chance in

69:10

terms of like meeting with her in person

69:13

and getting the she would give you

69:15

organic not all those textbook things

69:18

that would not work. You get what I

69:21

Yeah. She would give you organic and now

69:22

you can break into the market. Yeah.

69:24

Thank you very very much. Now, if your

69:27

your life is or your story is to be a

69:30

headline, what would it say

69:33

>> about it?

69:34

>> Yeah. What would your kind of story say

69:36

in terms of it if it's meant to be a

69:38

headline? What would you what would you

69:41

convert it? What would you like it to

69:43

say?

69:44

>> The girl that never gives up.

69:46

>> All right, that's it. [laughter]

69:48

All right. Thank you so so much. Um I

69:51

know that there's still a bit of

69:53

philanthropy that you do in terms of

69:55

like um um what's it called ladies and

69:58

mentoring women. I was checking your

70:01

proper yeah am I right? you have a women

70:03

group and other things like that um that

70:06

we have not explored as much but um in

70:09

our upcoming season or the season

70:12

afterward I would like to like you to

70:15

kind of walk me around because I want to

70:17

do an outdoor recording in summer such

70:20

that we walk around and see put pictures

70:23

and perspective to some of this business

70:25

and then so I think I'm going to record

70:27

you and your husband [laughter]

70:30

and then she would put a better a better

70:32

perspectives to some of the things you

70:34

said. Once again, thank you so much.

70:36

>> Thank you for having me.

70:37

>> Yeah, thank you so much, guys. Um, it's

70:39

been it's been a lovely episode speaking

70:42

to Anu. I mean, she's she's she's she's

70:47

business. Let me just put it that way.

70:48

She's business by herself. She just

70:50

thinks about it every second, every day,

70:53

and every hour. And um um catch you on

70:57

the next one. This is Diary of

70:58

Successful Immigrants. Bye. [music]

71:06

>> [music]

71:08

>> Hey,

71:17

hey,

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