Dangerous Catalyst for Nvidia & Chip Stocks [CRWV, NBIS, IREN] - as a Shareholder.
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There's a whole lot of confusion going
on about what's going on with Nvidia and
renting back chips. No, they're not
buying back chips, but renting back
chips. What's going on with DGX Cloud
and what's going on with this material
service agreement with Nvidia? Because,
see, yesterday I made a video on this
topic and there were a lot of people
that seem to really misunderstand what's
going on. And I I think there's a chance
maybe they only watched 2 minutes of the
video, came up with a conclusion, and
then left, which is really their loss
because not a lot of people are actually
talking about this. I feel like once
again, I'm early and I'm one of the few
people talking about this. Like for
example, there's this one person said
yesterday, what are you even on about?
Are we reading the same filing? This
isn't proof of over supply. It's just a
contract clause where Nvidia shares some
downside risk if utilization drops.
Okay. Then I said, "The filing literally
says, Cory, we've entered into a new
order demanding Nvidia buy unused
compute." And the person replies and
says, "Yes, the filing says Nvidia has
to cover unused capacity." That part is
true, but it doesn't prove over supply
today. It just shifts some risk back to
Nvidia. Yes, but you have to realize
this is the first time we are hearing
about this with Nvidia. We never knew
that these agreements existed to the
point that in 2023 apparently we have
this material services agreement from
2023
which is now being activated. That's the
key, right? You have to understand it's
now being activated. Floreave isn't just
reminding you, hey, we have a material
service agreement where Nvidia is going
to buy our unused capacity. Clore is
literally saying, "Hey, Nvidia, we can't
sell this. We are potentially overs
supplied," which is implied when they
can't sell capacity. They have like,
"Hey, we we have too much. We can't find
buyers for this server technology. You
need to buy it." So, we are entering the
order for you to buy it. That is by
definition either a sign that Chlorine
sucks at selling, which is possible, or
there's over supply. though yes it
doesn't guarantee there's over supply
but it's an early canary it's an early
red flag and we'll get the full material
service agreement when the next earnings
call from coreweave comes out which is
expected to be between November 12th and
14th Baron says the 12th so I'm going to
go with the 12th to be safer on that
side now why is this such a big deal
well it's such a big deal because it's
also coming at the same time as Nvidia
is also agreeing to rent back from
Lambda uh over 18,000 of its own chips,
which you think, okay, well, that's
probably because they're building out
their own data centers, right? But
they've been scaling back their own data
centers. Now, this is so fascinating
because think about this. Nvidia has
been pitching the DGX cloud that, hey,
in August of 2023, Jensen tells us that
DGX cloud is an enormous success. Then
in late 2024, we hear that this enormous
success generates $2 billion of
annualized revenue. Well, that's less
than 2% of the money they make from
chips. Then in 2025, we're not going to
spend any more money building out our
own cloud infrastructure, which remember
cloud infrastructure is warehouse,
utility, power, infiniband, network
connections. It's a lot of
infrastructure, chip stacks, uh you
know, that could be partly their own. Uh
and then of course server rice. There's
a lot that goes into this and then you
have to manage it all, right? It's a lot
of work.
But now all of a sudden September of
2025 comes around and we hear from
Nvidia that they're no longer
prioritizing DGX for external use at
all. Instead, we'll just go lease from
other cloud service providers. And this
is where things and people start
scratching their heads and gohm this
feels a little circular because on one
hand you were telling us that DGX cloud
was such an enormous success. your own
NVIDIA data centers were such an
enormous success and now you're telling
us yeah we're not like that's that was
an enormous success and it was good
revenue but it's less than 2% we're not
going to focus on it you know we'll just
use it internally that's the argument
now is what we're just using our own
servers internally to design chips and
and to work on CUDA and in case you're
wondering why our commitments to leasing
chips are skyrocketing where we're
leasing our own AI chips back from the
likes of Microsoft Oracle and for reef
as reported by the information. Uh don't
worry, this is totally normal. We are
doing this because we need the
technology.
Okay? Or it's potentially because it
makes more sense to recognize the
revenue and then be able to buy back
your own stock because it makes people
inside and holders of the stock very
very rich. But it does create serious
concerns that this start of over supply
has begun. Now consider this when it
comes to this lambda deal. I want you to
think about this.
Nvidia agreed to rent 10,000 of its own
chips from Lambda for $1.3 billion over
four years and another $200 million deal
to rent another 8,000 chips. So
recognize how this works and why this
makes so much money. And this is why
people get pissed off when you call this
stuff out. It makes massive money
because Nvidia gets to recognize the
chip sales immediately. If you enter
into a chip purchase with Nvidia, Nvidia
gets to recognize the revenue
immediately. They recognize the Nvidia
and they re the revenue right away and
they recognize the margins right away.
So, it's kind of like you selling
lemonade for $100 and then promising to
buy back one cup of lemonade for five
bucks every year for the next seven
years. Okay. Well, you still only paid
back 45, but you got a hundred. You got
a 100 today and you gave back 45 divided
over the next seven years. It's a great
deal for Nvidia because Nvidia gets the
revenue today, recognizes the margins
today. It gives some of that back to
Lambda. Lambda goes public. When Lambda,
like Corewave, goes public, what do they
do? They raise money and then they can
use that money to buy more Nvidia chips.
It's extremely circular, right? That's
that's why people start wondering is
this is this bubbly? Because look at
what in Lambda is forecasting. Lambda is
forecasting that well, they're telling
us they had 114 million of revenue in
Q2. That's a little under half a billion
dollars of annualized revenue. They're
estimating to double to a billion
dollars of revenue by 2026. That could
be reasonable. Could be very, very
reasonable. But would it be reasonable
then to say we're going to 20x after
that? I don't know. Lambda is literally
estimating that they're going to 20x by
2030. But wait a minute. In order to
double, we're already relying on Nvidia
leasing back the very chips that we are
buying. That's to get to a double. Now,
we're supposed to expect that Lambda is
going to 20x from here. I thought this
random comment put it very well. When
there's no killer app, money needs to be
cycled around. And that unfortunately
seems to be a little bit of what's
happening here. And it's pissing off a
lot of people who have big allocations
to the chip place. And mind you, I have
a bunch of exposure to Nvidia as well. I
promise course members that when I sell
Nvidia, they're going to be the first to
hear. I will send out an alert to my
course members in our alpha report just
like we do when I buy stocks in the top
10 stocks to buy list. For example, you
know, I've been sending out alerts on
like, you know, there was a company that
just recently IPOed. I almost never buy
IPO companies. We bought this IPO
company. We did fundamental analysis
together. We sent out the alert to buy
it. That stock today that it's been like
a week now since it's IPOed. That
company today is up another 13%. This is
based on the fundamental analysis that
we do and the technical analysis and
those are the kind of calls that we like
to make. And then when I send an alert,
I send it to members in the alpha report
last week. You got I'm buying this
stock. I plan to buy more. I'm buying
this allocation now. And then I even
bought the dip on it soon after that.
And now it's way up from there.
because it, you know, was expected to be
volatile within the 24 hours after IPO.
Very normal. Now it's way up, which is
exactly what we expected. Anyway, my
point is like I'm not trying to be
negative on people making money. I want
people to make money. I want you to make
money. And as an Nvidia shareholder, I
look at this and I'm like, some of this
stuff makes me nervous. It's like you
guys are expecting me to believe that
you can 20x your data center, but you're
already forcing Nvidia to buy your
excess capacity at Lambda and at
Coreweave
and you're walking back from running
your own data center for external use
because you're realizing that's not
where the money is being made. And yeah,
we'll just use that internally, which is
a nice copout. But we also don't know
how much Nvidia uses themselves versus
rents out. Again, I'll give you an
example. Let's say Nvidia rents, you
know, back 100%. Uh, so whatever they
rent back, they rent back $10 billion
worth, right? Let's just make up, let's
call $10 billion 100%. Well, maybe they
rent out 30% of that to somebody else,
like they rerent it basically, and maybe
they use 10% themselves. They're still
losing, you know, 60 to 70% there. We
don't know what that number is, but it's
a red flag because it's likely to lead
pricing to go down over time. Now,
hopefully not, but it is likely to lead
pricing to go down. And that's the
concern that Nvidia actually went from,
in my opinion, being a company that
which is what made me so excited about
them. They went from a company that
could recognize the revenue and not be a
bag holder to literally committing to
being the bag holder. and this this
coreweave 8K. I think people are
misunderstanding it. Like they're
they're being like blind here to this
being a red flag. Like I can be bullish
Nvidia and I could love the margins of
Nvidia and I could love what Nvidia does
as a company, but I can also recognize
that this is a red flag and I can also
recognize that people are, you know,
shilling
without letting their brains realize
this is bad. You know, like somebody in
the chat earlier, this jackass in the
chat earlier, he's like, "Oh, Kevin, you
sure like it when they buy back their
own stuff, don't you?" And like, first
of all, you're you're acting like I'm
trying to be like sinister or like do
something greedy or whatever. I'm
providing you perspective as I usually
do on this channel. That hurts me,
right? As an Nvidia shareholder, me
pointing out a red flag of Nvidia hurts
me. And I don't shear the buybacks. I
actually see the buybacks as a red flag.
The company's so good. Go do buybacks.
Invest more into better equipment or
infrastructure, whatever. If the data
centers are doing so good, instead of
buying back the stock, go build data
centers. Do something productive with
the money. When you're buying back
stock, what you're doing is you're
trying to prop up the stock valuation so
insiders can get rich or shareholders
can get rich or you just end up using
that money to conduct equity investments
into the smaller data center place to
keep the ponds going. That's what makes
me concerned is that there are early
warning signs that there's a pawn. Now,
how do you play that? Well, in my
opinion was a trailing stop. Like, I'm
not I'm not like rushing to the exit on
the video, but I'm going to be aware of
this because where there's smoke,
there's fire. And and when it starts, it
usually doesn't get better over time.
Hopefully, it does.
But again, I want you to recognize that
sometimes you get these sort of like
bots. I mean, the comments that are just
like blind to real issues. Like there
was another one yesterday. Who was it?
Uh like I personally think this is a
pretty important inflection point to pay
attention to. Uh and then and then this
person I think they legitimately didn't
listen to the video at all, but they
make it sound like they're smart people.
Right. This video is theoretical at
best. Nvidia has not bought back any
chips. They're just insurance for
coreweave in a hits the fan
scenario. No, they're not. This is not
in a shitty hits the fan scenario.
Because if it's a shitty hits the band
scenario, guess what? It's happening
right now because Coreweave in their
filing says we are pulling the trigger
on demanding Nvidia purchase unused
capacity now. This is not some contract
clause for maybe. It is. We are doing
it. A B I never said Nvidia is buying
back chips. You didn't pay attention,
homie. Homie Nate. So your comment is
what's theoretical cuz you didn't even
pay attention to the content, which is
sad. And and I think this is where
people don't realize uh there are and
can be red flags. That doesn't mean that
we're going to fall off a cliff, but it
does mean we should pay attention to
these things. Now, Baron says that we
are going to get the copy of this MSA on
November 12th. I previously said that
was November 14th or 15th. Uh that was
based on when I thought the Cory Vern to
be. Baron says it's actually going to be
uh on the 12th. So, I highlighted that
right here. You can see that on screen
right here. So I I adjusted my calendar
and I encourage you to adjust your
calendar as well. But again my POV is
let me provide information you know to
to give perspective on on what could be
a real issue. We don't know if it is uh
you know everything could be just fine
but uh it it is something where what
this sets up is a precedent that anybody
in the future who is going to buy chips
from Nvidia deserves a guarantee from
Nvidia. But eventually you can only
provide so many guarantees, right? The
like the bar to provide guarantees is
going to get higher and higher and
higher. Soon your next data center plays
are going to go, "Hey, I don't want an
agreement that you're going to buy my,
you know, unused capacity through 2032.
If I'm going to spend $10 billion on a
new data center, I actually want you to
buy back my unused equipment all the way
through 2040." You know that that that's
where it's an issue. Jiro here says why
is coreweave buying more if they have
unused capacity. That's the thing.
Coreweave gets to be frivolous with
their investment because Nvidia
guarantees it. So why is Nvidia buying
more or why is Coree building out more?
Because they just dump it all on Nvidia
in a circular motion. So it doesn't
matter if there's unused capacity. That
is the definition of malinvestment.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
So again, I'm not saying this is a
nearterm pooper dupers, okay? I'm saying
this is a longterm
uh potential issue. Not near-term. It's
a long-term
>> poopy dupee.
>> For now, it might very well continue to
be
>> bullish catalyst.
>> A bullish catalyst.
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>> You know,
>> Kevin is much more interested than most
people by the way in the balance sheet.
>> I'm just saying. All right. So these are
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