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well don't sue me bro but in this video
you're going to learn some really big
and key differences between two very
massive investment opportunities we're
talking about3 trillion investment
opportunities Apple versus Nvidia and so
in this video I'm going to give you my
thoughts in terms of what I'm personally
doing with my portfolio when it comes to
Nvidia and maybe some things that you
ought to consider between the two
companies Nvidia and apple we'll also
talk valuation first we'll start a
little broad with what's going on
between between the AI spaces but I want
to give you a quick disclaimer don't
don't sue me bro this is just my opinion
this is not personalized Financial
advice and frankly it could be wrong but
I do also want to start by saying I've
been very bullish Nvidia I loaded up on
Nvidia originally back in November of
2022 as we sort of bottomed out I added
a bunch in the 400s obviously I wish I
uh had more EXP osure leading up to that
run oh well I took some gains then I got
back in a little higher but I'm glad I
did because obviously the company's done
extremely well the question now though
is what is a better opportunity going
forward hindsight analysis only does so
much and in this video I'll also go
through what Apple just transformed in
the AI space so this is really important
okay now something that we have to also
cover before we start is dang yes I did
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I had a sweet sweet set of call options
on Apple today after that event
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103% that one was up 76% I go in and out
of them uh but anyway as always remember
past performance doesn't guarantee
future results and it's clear that if
you join you'll make money I just want
to be very clear about that the goal is
teaching and education so what's going
on with Nvidia well first we need to
know what this significant paper is that
just came out regarding Nvidia because
this is a risk factor for NVIDIA and all
of what we had presented by Apple is a
risk factor as well that is going to
compound a risk factor for NVIDIA let's
just be very clear though Nvidia is the
leader of the pack nobody stands in the
way way of nvidia's Mo Nvidia is a
company that I want long-term exposure
to I want Nvidia exposure not just
because of the innovation of the GPU
cycle that is we're going from the h100s
to the next levels to the black Wells to
the next levels thereafter which they're
already announcing getting on sort of
this one-year product refresh cycle we
know we're going from your sort of
typical dumb compute to AI compute
servers we already know all of that we
know we're on a new Innovative scurve
the question now is at what point does
that scurve Peter out and does it still
make sense to buy Nvidia now post spit
especially since the posts spit
performance of stocks historically is
good but in recent history has actually
not been that good consider over the
last 4ish years after Google stock split
uh on July 18th 2022 the stock was up 3%
over the next 3 days but then fell 10%
after Amazon stock split in 2022 it fell
21% after Apple stock split in August of
2020 it was up 10% at first and then
plummeted 20% and after tesel stock
split well that that one has just pretty
much been straight down but anyway the
six days thereafter it was down 12% so
stock splits don't necessarily mean in
the short term the stock is definitely
going to go up of course great companies
split their stock their earnings grow
and they keep going up in the longer
term so do I really want to bet against
Nvidia for the very long term no but
would I be willing to make a bet or a
trade between Nvidia and apple now
absolutely and the question that comes
down to everything for me is how much
actual GP GPU compute do we really need
picture this for a moment I want to draw
this for you before we get into this
study because I think it's going to be
um enlightening let's just say
if in March of
2023 to probably the 3 months thereafter
you have this bucket I'll call this the
uh
March and to let's call it July 2023 AI
the class of AI okay that's a good I
like it sort of like Navy Seals but it's
the class of AI okay and let's say you
have 1,000 people in the class of AI the
question that I have for you now is how
many people or how many companies rather
do we think is in the class of AI not
necessarily today but in the 2025 class
well my guess is we're probably going to
go down to somewhere between 50 to 100
in the class of AI which means if we're
building out server compute for the
class of a thousand assuming that
they're all going to maximize all their
compute because you and myself and
businesses instead of just trying the
one AI that we need we try five
different AIS so we're actually creating
five times the demand that we actually
ultimately need for AI well then what
happens is everybody buys AI chips
everybody overpays for the AI chips and
Nvidia goes to the moon and companies
that have nominal AI exposure like Dell
which is just a ripoff giving away
server Stacks doubles at stock valuation
uh AMD uh vertage
other companies like super micro
computer all the adjacents also end up
doing really well but is it actually
based on a fugazi set of demand now of
course not everybody got into AI day one
so of course that class theoretically
should grow to let's say 1,200 as more
people slowly trickle into the class
they show up late basically but does
that just push us to maybe a 60 to 20
class right maybe 20% more I don't know
this speculation obviously but the point
is that let's say the compute we need
for this basket over here is X okay so X
compute well the compute you need over
here in a more win or take most
environment you could even say that AI
will just boil down to five to six
different AI companies in the future
there'll still be a set amount of AI
demand but the point is you won't have
the duplicative training and the
duplicative inference as people test out
different AIS you're probably looking at
AI demand that's something like x
divided by
10 H and and then maybe you grow that by
like 10% a year right so you multiply it
by 1.1 now that's not supposed to look
like and remind you of your Calculus
class or your algebra class it's just
simply to say that demand is probably
substantially smaller than what we saw
in 20 23 for most
AI uh demands right now now a lot of
companies are still trying to build out
llms but even llm demand might not use
as much GPU compute as we think to train
new llms and this is going to get really
important in just a moment but the point
is as you go from the many to the few
you're going to reduce the amount of
demand that you have and then you'll
grow that reduced uh set because you
have people con consolidating the
products they're using they're probably
the best products of the bunch which are
the most efficient products and the E
most efficient products won't need uh
frankly as much compute power that's why
they're the best that's why they're the
most efficient products okay so so now
we've reduced our overall demand for
artificial intelligence is there any
evidence to back up that that is
happened well yes there actually is
Tesla delayed its delivery of h100s
because they say they don't have enough
room for the server Stacks but if they
really needed them they would have been
ready for the shipment reality is these
chips at Nvidia are so good that Tesla
as Elon himself says is no longer comput
constrained and we don't need as many
chips especially since the black Wells
are supposed to be 4X as fast as the
h100s you need 4X fewer
chips so if they introduced the h100
back in 2023 with the same strength as
the black well today you would need 4X
fewer of them which means You' have
potentially 1/4 of the AI chip revenue
for NVIDIA see where I'm going with this
as the competitors in the AI space
shrink demand Falls by virtue of a lack
of duplicative work yes it's still going
to grow AI demand is going to grow don't
worry about that that's what I'm saying
times 10% you're still going to get that
growth but this is something that is
made
worse by three different things one of
these is Matrix removal one of them is
caching one of them is
Apple Matrix removal Matrix matrices are
used in uh large language models they
are used used in conjunction with bias
weights and they're used inside of
neural Nets to compute uh a basically
likely outcome for something whether in
training or inference or
whatever there is a paper that just came
out uh from uh the University of
California Santa Cruz uh in conjunction
with Davis Davis is where my daughter
summer was by the way she's back home
really grateful for that she's beautiful
she was just out there smiling at me
she's so cute I love love walking out
there giving a big smooch uh anyway
scalable Matrix uh free basically
language modeling so here's basically a
paper suggesting can we get away from
using
matrices in uh language learning models
and uh here's what they find in their
abstract and we'll look at the
conclusion this is very very important
if you're either an Nvidia or an apple
investor because you're going to see
something that's going on here
and I'm wearing don't sue me bro because
I know there are a lot of people who see
this stuff that are like oh Kevin you
know you're just biased against a video
or whatever it's like no I'm I'm long
exposed to Nvidia but yeah I am hedging
myself in the short term and I'll show
you why take a look at this in this work
we showed that the matte mole which is
matrix multiplication models uh
basically typically use most of the GPU
performance so let's say you have 100
watts of power being used let's say the
matrices use like 90 watts of that power
so they're making the argument that a
lot of power of as a percentage uh
compute power actual energy that has
different implications as well goes into
Matt moles Matrix
multiplications okay interesting so what
experiment did they run well they ran an
experiment that says our experiments
show that a matte mole free so no
matrices model achieves performance on
par with state-of-the-art Transformers
that require far more memory during the
inference scale up in addition to that
we also provide a GPU efficient
implementation of this model which
reduces memory usage by up to 61% over
an unoptimized Baseline during
training in other words we can create
large language models using field
program
programmable Gateway arrays which are
quick for low power operations
especially mobile devices basically we
could use
fpgas instead of gpus and get quick
results with less energy consumption
which I want you to think about this for
a moment when somebody uses a computer
when you use GPT or Siri do you want a
damn pin wheel every time you're getting
an
answer of course not it's like when you
shoot a gun when you're playing rust and
and you're raiding your enemies do you
want a big lag latency time of course
not you want fast you want as little
latency as possible to maximize your
ability to make money or to succeed at
whatever it is you're doing sometimes
that could just be having a video load
while you're all alone I don't
know point is
regarding this as a competitor or or
something to Nvidia is it's a way of
saying hey if people can find more
efficient ways of running large language
models and the great big innovation
that's really come out of the latest AI
revolution has been frankly glorified
chat Bots that are really good don't get
me wrong they're great great sales
assistance and otherwise but outside of
generative AI these large language
models if you could run them off gpus
with less power less latency and less
cost then yeah people are going to do
that especially if the results are
similar in fact you could jump over to
the conclusion and you can see they say
by prioritizing the development and the
deployment of matte mole free
architectures as in architectures that
don't require as much of a GPU lift the
future of large language models will
only become more accessible efficient
and sustainable in other words as soon
as we get gpus out of our
life oh we can actually have more llms
and more competition which more
competition in llms puts even less or or
I should say puts companies like open AI
at risk uh for more competition and
let's just say I'm making this extreme
argument because obviously open AI could
use these matte mole free models as well
but let's just for Giggles say that uh
GPT is going to be 100% GPU based and a
competitor comes along and it's 0% GPU
and we're just going to say comp over
here and let's say this one is faster
and just as good as GPU GPT but you
don't have any pin Wheels well then GPT
will go bankrupt and the competitor will
succeed the competitor won't be using or
relying on those gpus which is bad for
NVIDIA interesting this is something
maybe we haven't thought of before now
obviously it's likely that GPT you know
open AI would adapt and use these matte
mole free models as well it's also
possible this paper is wrong but you may
not have thought yet that oh damn I
thought AI meant GPU which meant Nvidia
man that that's the far as I got that
that may have been your thesis but now
we actually have to go oh wait a minute
we can have GPU
free
AI messes the thesis up a little Kevin
what are you doing oh just waitting
until I get to the Apple part we're just
getting started okay what about cashing
risk that's risk number two the cashing
risk caching is basically a way of
saying hey for of the image generation
or video generation that or or just
quite frankly text generation that
people need a lot of that we don't
actually need to run to a GPU server a
GPU based server every time to operate a
result instead if a million people every
single year ask why George Washington
had wooden teeth let's just run that
calculation one time and then the other
999,000 999 times somebody asked about
George Washington's teeth we're just
going to feed them the same answer from
basically downloaded memory like a hard
drive like imagine downloading on a
future iPhone 50 GB of a GPT in
cyclopedia that has cached answers text
based answers for everything even
potentially canned uh uh image
generation or video
generations and then the only portion
you have to send to the GPU based cloud
is just what's different in the question
so then you can provide an answer that's
partly encyclopedia based in storage or
memory and the other that is based on
actual Cloud
compute okay that's another risk cashing
that's not like the cash in your pocket
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so if you have questions by the way
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question becomes all right we have risks
to Nvidia we have Matrix remove Al which
is a GPU risk we have cashing risk which
is an Nvidia risk we have Nvidia that
trades at about a 3.5 Peg right now
which is a price to earnings growth
level which basically suggests that
their growth is going to slow to
somewhere around 13 to 15% over the next
four years on average per year that
you'll go from basically this doubling
to to a slowing to potentially even
negative so you get this average 13 to
14% growth and there's a real risk that
those growth expectations even in those
years are too high that those growth
expectations might actually go or the
actual growth numbers might actually go
negative way earlier which would make
nvidia's valuation even higher which is
somewhat scary because it's already kind
of rich now it is a cash generating
Behemoth it makes a lot of
money but what about Apple and what is
Apple doing that could potentially hurt
a lot
Nvidia introducing on device artificial
intelligence now you might think to
yourself okay on iPhone who cares but
wait a second you don't like latency we
already talked about latency and you're
not going to like latency on your phone
I hate when GPT pin wheels or Siri has
to think it should be fast with the
fastest highest quality product is going
to be a product that can answer my
question with an on device neural or
language large language model or
whatever basically AI on the device if
Apple can protect perfect which we don't
know that they will be able to but if
they can perfect on device artificial
intelligence forget about upgrade cycle
for a moment for apple and what that
means for introducing new iPads laptops
desktops and phones but what I want you
to think of for a moment is if Apple
does on device guess who's going to do
on device next
Android will because do you want to buy
an Android that always sends your data
to the cloud that's not good for privacy
that's not good for operational security
offsec and it's certainly not good for
efficiency because you're waiting for
the pin wheel so if Apple does on device
then Android will probably do on device
which means probably all Hardware in the
future will do on device which means in
the future iPads will do all the on
device work this is the iPad by the way
I got because I had uh I I made a bet on
uh X on Twitter follow me there if you
don't already real me Kevin but I made a
bet if I made trading profits on a
certain trade I'd buy a new iPad even
though I don't need it then I bought it
and then I realized that classic apple
move the apple pencil uh doesn't
actually work with uh with the new one
the apple pencil Pro you have to get the
new Apple pencil Pro and I'm like of
course of course but anyway so the
iPhone the Android transitions the iPad
transitions what's going to transition
next well of
course the laptops are going to
transition next to on device artificial
intelligence which if the laptops at
Apple transition then the competitors
will transition which means the PCS may
also
transition now PCS won't use Apple's M1
chips where you have sort of the
built-in Graphics into you know the M1
chip uh and the neural net built into
there PCS might still use AMD you know
490s or or whatever I mean these are
these are fantastic chips let's be real
okay I'm not going to play video games
on uh a Mac it's just not going to
happen I'm going to play video games on
a delicious PC because well after all
they're really good in fact I love these
things so much you can actually see
right on screen here that I got my 4090
on this computer that I use when I show
a PC so I've got a lot of these I think
I've got three or four computers that I
own that have the 490s I love GeForce
experience I love Nvidia I think they're
a great company they have great products
and they're just good they're best of
class but that's for video gaming we're
talking AI here and what is Apple
potentially going to be able to pull off
well first of all if we don't need
gpus to create
large language models because of the
matric risk if that ends up working out
and then Apple uses on device artificial
intelligence to do something which
honestly I was blown away by I almost
had tears in my eyes during the presser
of the Apple event which was oh we're
going to let you take themes from your
memories or your pictures or video or
whatever that you took on a vacation and
then ask the phone to basically create a
custom video out of it we'll throw music
on for it we'll edit it together for you
and you could show off this movie that
was custom made for you using your own
pictures and video on device so it's not
leaving your device using the compute
power on your
phone that's insane like I wish I had
the patience to go through and make
collages of all my vacations because I
would have many of them that would be
really fun and I'd be very grateful for
that I love children and I love
vacations but if the phone can do that
on device then that's a huge competitive
advantage over me creating a generic
piece of imagery or video that I don't
really care about it's not personal now
obviously the onice aspects that we
learned about from Apple some of them
were great as well such as artificial
intelligence to let you know which of
the uh notifications you get are
pressing right now while Kevin is
filming a video versus not pressing
while Kevin is busy filming a video you
know little things like tldrs or summary
or summaries or the calculator app or
the notes and being able to make
modifications these are great these are
really functional useful applications uh
making Siri better finally these are
great applications of AI but we have to
go Way Beyond this idea of a product
refresh cycle for a moment and how
useful some of these services are going
to be as disappointed I was in the event
up in the first half the second half was
actually pretty
good we actually have to look and say
wait a minute
is there a chance that the next AI play
is not Nvidia that the next AI play is
actually Apple now Apple also has a peg
of about three and a half so their
valuation is ironically similar but if
nvidia's valuation is based on growth
rates that are too high then their PEG
ratio is going to go up as their growth
rates come down and if apple is being
thought of as a dead company that
doesn't innovate then their growth rates
are way too low
which means their PEG ratio is probably
going to come down so in my estimates
Nvidia probably has a PEG ratio now of
five and apple probably has a PEG ratio
of closer to 1 and a half to
two in other words people expect this
for NVIDIA and that for Apple well that
changed yesterday thanks to WWDC 2024
but it didn't just change Apple's
trajectory
it also creates real concerns for
NVIDIA so what's the trade here's my
trade short term I'm short
Nvidia now that's in a trading portfolio
I've also reduced my long-term exposure
to Nvidia I've brought i' I've roughly I
think a little bit more than haved my
Nvidia exposure right around 120 bucks a
share that's $1,200 uh post split or
presplit rather so I've substantially
reduced my exposure to Nvidia don't get
me wrong I still think they have PP
pricing power I still think Nvidia has a
lot of pricing power don't get me wrong
I just think their valuation has gotten
them carried away so it's worth reducing
exposure to them at the same time it is
worth in my opinion
maintaining pretty high exposure to
Apple because this could be the next
sort of AI play that everybody forgot
in fact if you recall I made a video on
Apple Ai and people got mad at me people
got so mad meet Kevin Apple artificial
intelligence let's take a look at this
okay so we made a video called leaked
Apple documents reveal AI Siri plans
Apple artificial intelligence that's
what I called it back then a AI I should
have put it together that they were
going to call it Apple intelligence it's
kind of smart uh but anyway you can see
that video yourself here and I actually
really encourage you to check it out
because you're going to see that on
April 2nd I was talking about how I
wanted to buy more Apple stock on April
April 2nd and go back for a moment to
where April 2 is April 2nd is right here
Apple Stock's $170 per share from then
to now Apple stock is up about 21 to 22%
% and it's only been about 2 months and
2 weeks here's a video that only got
that got less than 50,000 views that
talked about a lot of what I talked
about in this video where they're going
to do something incredible on device and
it's going to be a game
changer so I was transparent about it
then I'm transparent about it now I
think this is a big deal now uh so my
take is
uh longer term less explo exposure
Nvidia so let's say if I'm like 5%
Nvidia 10% Apple I let those ride for
long term this is not personalized
Financial advice I want to be really
clear about that when I give these like
allocations and stuff this this is not
for you disclaimer not personalized
advice this is very clearly just
theoretical and what I'm personally
doing uh with with my own money where I
want my own money to be I personally
like investing via an actively managed
ETF that I don't have to you know sort
of um how should I say uh worry about
too much concentration risk in because
there are legal compliance issues with
those uh which is nice you can't get
like overly heavy in one
thing so um that's my Nvidia Apple
thesis longer term but shorter term I'm
just going straight short Invidia
through options you could go out 3 weeks
60 days 90 days whatever ever you decide
ultimately is for you again this isn't
personalized advice um but that's what
I'm thinking uh and then the same thing
for Apple call options shorter term 21
days to 60 days somewhere in that range
because what I think you'll see is
you'll see money flow out of Nvidia and
into
Apple it's just a thesis I have it it
could be very very wrong uh but this
also worth noting brings up wait a
minute what about energy usage remember
how everybody's like oh energy usage is
going to Skyrocket because of AI data
centers in fact one of my team members
brought me an entire research piece and
they're like oh Kevin like our investing
in data center is a big play you know
there there are a lot of people saying
energy use is going to explode because
of these these chips and um it's funny
because I I I said I don't think so and
they're like wait what what are you
doubting AI I go no like what what do
you mean then I go all it's going to
take is a more efficient chip that does
four times the work at a fraction of the
energy
output and the fact of the matter is
human productivity just isn't going
to go up at the same rate that energy
costs for artificial intelligence go
down or energy demand goes down like for
example let's say creating an app
through artificial intelligence is going
to take me a 100,000 units of power you
know kilowatts let's call it kilowatt
hours okay
is is um and that's that's at today's
level okay well if I could get that down
to 25,000 Kow of power am I going to
make four apps no I only need one okay
maybe I'll have a second do you see what
I'm saying okay but then I'm only at
50,000 kilowatt hours of use that's less
than the prayer estimate so I think
that's overblown that's my opinion again
I could be wrong sorry I like I know
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