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if you want to know what's going on with
Tesla you need to understand these two
numbers which I'll explain in this video
but first we got to get out of the way
what this is not this drama of Tesla SN
falling over 6% today does not
incorporate what the heck is possibly
going on with X and I'll tell you we
just had news about that we just heard
that multiple Banks were in talks to try
to shore up the debt that backs the x/
Twitter acquisition deal and so far it
looks like some of those talks have
fallen apart why does that matter well
as most people who invest in Tesla know
Elon uses Tesla you can't blame him but
he has and he potentially will again
Tesla as his piggy bank to finance other
projects Tesla has been used to finance
the acquisition of Tesla selling over
$24 billion in 2020 2 2 which was almost
$8 billion more than what retail bought
that year now Elon did promise not to
sell any Tesla shares the year after
which was 2023 that's over now maybe he
wouldn't sell in 2024 which is now so
that means we're in the maybe world but
the fact that there's also talk about
things maybe not being great or at least
Banks having to write down their
ownership value of SL Twitter ownership
by 60 to 70% isn't so great when it
comes
to Tesla news because here's the thing
you might initially think Kevin why why
does this matter well it matters because
it's kind of like potentially getting
margin called you know if a bank says
hey we'll lend you x billion dollars uh
so that you can buy X you know Twitter
uh but it's predicated on loan terms
that say the equity in the deal needs to
be why and all of a sudden X plummets
because of user growth or issues or
Revenue issues who knows well then you
definitely have what we call refinancing
risk and unfortunately that's not even
being talked about right now when it
comes to good old Tesla and I hate to be
the bearer of additional news but
consider this Fidelity wrote down their
position
72 percent Morgan Stanley I didn't give
a percentage here but they took an
almost billion dooll loss on the value
of their portion of the debt there was
about a 12.5 billion debt package when
it comes to X and uh the group that put
this entire package together did hold
talks with Elon it says here earlier
this year and those talks faltered so
what kind of pressure comes next who
knows do we really want to know not
really because this is supposed to be a
Tesla video so why are we spending the
first nearly 3 minutes talking about X
well because unfortunately when the
largest shareholder of the company has
turned the company into a bit of a piggy
bank for other projects you have to
that's just the way it is if you don't
talk about it you're kidding yourself
now is Tesla dead are EVS over are EV is
the next plant-based food no uh and I
want to be crystal clear about that I
was asked that question Point Blank this
morning in our course member live stream
where we do fundamental analysis every
day the market is open we talk Trends
whatever's going on real estate analysis
you name it Eevees are the future there
is zero doubt in my mind Eevees will be
the future they are substantially easier
to maintain they are substantially more
powerful they are more capable Vehicles
when it comes to computer responses with
autonomy much more fantastic Vehicles
the problem is we have time between then
and now why well because of a few things
range anxiety which let's be real there
are enough supercharging stations
everywhere but people's memory is very
uh uh house how I should I say people's
memory is very elastic meaning that once
people are convinced that range is a
problem with electric vehicles
especially in the cold it takes a very
long time to get people out of that
memory hole right uh and in the future
Battery Technology and Battery warming
technology will be such that this really
isn't an issue but the reality is yes
range does decline with cold at least at
this point and yes certain batteries
like the lipos lithium I am phosphates
not to be confused with liposuction not
sure why I'm making that comparison yes
those you generally only charge up to to
about uh 80% those with Nickel in uh
included there are some batteries that
are now the nickel-free batteries like
the 4680 which you don't necessarily
have to only charge to
80% you know and the whole point of that
is not to have longer term battery
degradation of you know 5 to 10% or
whatever the 4680 is you don't have that
issue you could really charge them up to
100% but still when you look at Tesla's
showpiece for a 4680 product what do you
get you you get a cyber truck that was
released that's maybe manufacturing I
don't know a couple hundred Vehicles a
week which is a Far Cry of what Tesla
put on the financial press release of
250,000 vehicles of capacity 200 time 52
weeks maybe we'll deliver to like 10,000
cyber trucks this year maybe we can even
double that and go to 20,000 but wall
Street's looking for 50,000 and there
are people out there thinking it's going
to go to 250,000 for a vehicle that
sells for $100,000
where they do continue to expand who's
getting invites for the cybertruck and
they don't even have full self-driving
for that's probably the biggest pisser
for me no parking sensors no F like
those are all short-term annoyances
obviously the Cyber truck is going to
have FSD in the future obviously FSD is
going to continue to get in the
direction of better and yes of course
we're going to talk China numbers and
all the other stuff but the point is
right now what we've got
is the glitz of the Cyber truck is
behind us because now it's out and it
ain't that Glam that's a problem and
it's going to take a while for it to be
Glam instead in the meantime you're
going to see as we predicted this
vehicle on tow trucks you're going to
see people complain about it you're
going to see features that are stupid
like no FSD it does it's like illogical
I don't understand why you would buy a
Tesla and and then not have full
whatever
uh and and of course FSD prices are
still ridiculous I did just get version
12 and I have to say I'm a little
disappointed now I will say it's
extremely impressive that it is a neural
net trained system this thing can make
u-turns like the last version couldn't
even make a full U-turn this sucker will
make a U-turn for me and I'm like OHA
damn that's pretty good it'll do things
that are great but I'll just give you a
couple examples railroad track red light
this sucker creeps up sees red light
railroad track no train no gate or
anything and it just stops at the
railroad track and then it wants to go
like half a mile an hour to get the 30
ft to the stop line of the red light to
go make its right turn and I'm like bro
I don't have time for this again maybe
I'm being impatient but the old version
wasn't that weird so there it it to me
it felt like getting fsd2 and this is
the first time I've done this in a very
long time but when when I saw that fsd2
update pop up I looked at I'm like oh
hell yeah I went straight home updated
that sucker the moment the update was on
was done Lord I'm getting
milk like I felt like I was 16 again I'm
like oh yeah we're going to try this out
we're going to the grocery store man it
actually handles roundabouts really well
like the old version it was like you
were going into a roller coaster you'd
go into the roundabout and then and then
you'd be like okay here we go
W like this cuz it would like floor it
halfway through the roundabout and it's
like we still have turning to do here
anyway uh this one goes through the
roundabout just fine but for improving
that and giving me u-turns it's
ridiculously slow at certain stop lights
and sometimes I don't know where it gets
this idea from but when it's making
unprotected lefts it wants to cut it
really freaking close I never have had
to slam on the brakes with this freaking
car before because it was going to pull
left in front of traffic that was
speeding I'm
like that was just my first drive just
my first drive maybe it was an anomaly
maybe I should have just said you know
what f it I'm just going to see what
happens and if I get T-boned oh well
I'll blame Elon but then part of me is
like I can't do that I got seven
kids so uh yeah like again I I'm I'm not
here to say it's not good like it's so
impressive that a neural net trained FSD
product can do what it can do but let's
just say if we were looking for
something that was going to go oh my
gosh fsd1 is like 80% of the way there
this is 90% of the way there it's more
like oh my gosh 11 was 94% of the way
there oh my gosh 12 is 94.5% of the way
there because well we did go forward it
felt like we also went back and so we
netted out a little bit ahead so step in
the right direction but
again practically for
users it's not there yet oh well that's
what it is FSD is just taking longer to
get to realization that's a pain point
for the company now remember those two
numbers I brought up yeah those don't
even have to do with the Chinese numbers
now a lot I want to be crystal clear
about this a lot of the Twitter bull
Community uh and I I just want to be
clear like after having seven kids and
uh going through what I've been through
with kids in emergency surgery and
almost dying I like bluntly I look at
these numbers and like I feel nothing
anymore about anything other than like
people so so forgive me if I sound maybe
a little
CST I've been through a little bit here
and and I know it could be way worse
okay so knock on wood I don't want it to
be way worse I I'm just saying the
sample I got I'm like oh okay all right
so anyway G to get on emotional here
um Tesla numbers with China a lot of
people right now are arguing that oh
Tesla China numbers they're just low
because of the shift in Chinese New
Year please please please take the stick
out of your high horse's but like no no
okay yes it is true that Chinese New
Year this year occurred on February 10th
versus January 20th last year which
means the start of Chinese New Year and
the end of it was all in February this
year whereas last year is split over two
months Chinese New Year 2024 dates just
pump it in boom what is the Chinese New
Year it's the 10th so the celebration
happened slightly before and slightly
after because people go travel to be
with their friends and their family and
whatever so yes probably the 5 days plus
or minus are bad for vehicle sales and
those occurred fully in February so a
lot of people are like well yeah you
know the February numbers this year were
lcus
Chinese no no and I will explain why no
because it's actually quite simple all
you have to do is go and add together
the TW Monon period okay the two-month
period and I'm not even using doomberg
numbers here okay we could see doomberg
numbers here because they got it
somewhere around here uh they talk about
EV sales us here it is uh 16 okay
Monday's Chinese numbers the
6,365 vehicles delivered uh from Chinese
factories in February were the lowest
read since December of 22 so that's
about 14 months ago down 16% month over
month and year-over-year the decrease
was 19% a lot of people are like oh
those numbers are fugazi you know
because of the Chinese New Year fine and
I'll talk about this other 25% number in
just a moment but what do you actually
have when you add these two digits
together well let's just do it 60,00 uh
400 plus
71,500 and then what we're going to do
is we're going to look at the 2023
numbers because just so you know that
total is
131.8 th000 and then if I go all the way
over here I add together
66.1 74.4 and what do I get
140.5 okay now this is simple math
131.8 divided by the old number 140.5
what do I get I get a decline over the
two-month period of 6.2% yes that means
a company where we were expecting for a
period of time 50% growth and I
personally thought well I thought that
was high I've generally been in the 30
to 35% growth rate for this company we
are literally now talking
2month
decline compared to the prior year now
let's be real that potential for decline
going forward and the decline is
actually happening at a company you
might be familiar with with exposure to
China as well it's a small company uh
that has performed decently over the
past few days you don't want to be
bitter over this one or the past few
weeks or the past few months or the past
year it's Nvidia uh they too have had
negative sales in China in fact the
Chinese outlook for NVIDIA is
devastating the difference is nvidia's
been able to offset that with massive
growth elsewhere Tesla's not Tesla
expects about 25% of their revenues to
come from China and unfortunately with
the Chinese economy likely in recession
Xin ping thinking that you know we don't
really need to stimulate more because if
we stimulate that'll lead to frothy
growth and we want long-term growth
that's high quality not cheap growth
therefore refusing to do more stimulus
leaves guess what Tesla cutting prices
and contributing to more promotions in
March Tesla for example is increasing
promotions by
$487 off of a model 3 or model y if you
buy in China in March in the United
States they threw in $5,000 of free
supercharging miles so the promotion ism
is continuing at Tesla now there's a
problem with that it's a real problem
when prices decline you end up running
into the Paradox of deflation so I want
to talk about that and then of course
this negative growth here I don't want
to run away from this negative growth uh
but before I talk about the Paradox of
deflation which is wildly important that
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with that said Tesla with a decline of
6.2% in revenues year-over-year how are
we going to prevent that from leading
earnings per share to from declining
well maybe we can advertise oh but wait
that isn't working now that's not saying
Tesla shouldn't advertise it's just
saying Tesla with advertising and we're
still getting a 6.2% decline in
revenues either the ads ain't working or
the product ain't
selling or both or the ads are working
and the products are selling less which
is also bad right so that's not good
because now you have to consider what
Wall Street is projecting Wall Street is
projecting uh roughly 28% growth for
this company in fact if I go to my peg
sheet here uh it's actually 26.6 5 uh
Tesla is projecting here I'll just throw
it up on screen right here we went
through this in the course member live
this morning uh and this is before it
updates to today's prices given that
obviously it fell like 6% today uh
numbers just uses yesterday's prices all
the time but whatever it's formulaic so
at yesterday's prices which would
actually be Friday's we've got 26.6 5%
growth projected which puts us at about
a 2.4 Peg so if I drop that to 190 it
puts us at about a 2.3 Peg okay big deal
that's a nominal difference I personally
think there's a risk that growth based
on this q1 decline is actually going to
for the next 4 years average out to
closer to 20% than 30% that actually
means Tesla selling for a PEG ratio of
closer to three which is pretty hot the
only thing that also has a PEG ratio
that's pretty high like this would be
well like a pounder at 4.3 but you
actually want to see another one Nvidia
nvidia's Wall Street forecast Peg is
7.46 it's freaking insane Wall Street
after this year so when you get to
January 2025 you're projecting an EPS of
24.5 which is double last year's EPS
which is great but from that double on
for the next average of 4 years the
market is expecting 4.5% growth at
Nvidia which means Nvidia right now at
822 bucks has a PEG ratio of
7.46 that's insane now the stock War
today is at 852 if I change it to 8 uh
uh 52 you're actually at 7.73 you could
almost round that to 8 it's nuts so
what's happened is you've pulled forward
so much growth at Nvidia that that's why
the stock is skyrocketing now the
problem with Tesla is Tesla stock ran up
so much 3 years ago because we pulled
forward growth the problem today is we
might not even have that growth we might
actually have a year of no growth which
tanks the 4-year average consider this
for a moment if you have four years in a
row of 30% growth 30 plus 30 plus 30 you
have 120% growth right and I understand
this is compounded but I'm just going to
get an average annual growth rate all I
have to do is take 120 divided 4 We're
simplifying here what do I get obviously
it's an average four-year growth rate of
30% per year and then of course to
calculate EPS that compounds right easy
math okay but what if I now do zero for
no growth one year plus then we get to
30% growth 30% growth 30% growth well
that's simple you could do that in your
head that's 90 90 divid 4 might not be
able to do that in your head but it's
22.5 5 which is the number I've written
here and it's based on q1 figures so yes
Tesla's Peg is actually not that cheap
now keep in mind we have hope oh trust
me there is no shortage of
opium my God Tesla Optimus program you
got to be kidding if you don't think
robots are the future and you got to be
kidding yourself if you don't think
Tesla has one of the greatest
competitive advantages given that they
actually have in-house manufacturing for
all these freaking robots you could get
a company like figure AI that it's
getting use somebody else to manufacture
them I I don't really know what their
plans are maybe those are their plans or
what but here's a startup that basically
had nothing a year ago and is now worth
like over $2 billion it's freaking
ludicrous but it's hopium because you
know oh yeah there's going to be AI in
these robots who's going to make them
for you and then what's it going to do
unload boxes from from from you know uh
like a a container well the only kind of
demos we get are uh you know pressure
grip uh and then wobble for a little bit
and set down but what about when you
have to start lifting from high what
about when you have to start lifting
from low like the the future is there
the future is clear in my opinion this
is my opinion it's very clearly
artificial intelligence and it is very
clearly humanoid Robotics and it is very
clearly electric vehicle but again the
question is how much of that can I price
in today the the reality is probably not
that much it's it's wonderful hopium but
again here look at the figuring okay I
want you to look at this very closely so
we're going to I'm going to play it once
quickly this sucker goes to pick up this
box mind you $2 billion valuation okay
it goes to pick up this box and then
it's going to go walk on over to the
conveyor belt here we go come on all
right I'm just going to fast forward a
little bit all right cool it sets it
down now a lot of this can be
pre-programmed scripting it doesn't
necessarily mean it's autonomous but the
idea is obviously there now what I
really want you to see is and I'm not
sure if they're where they show me the
closeup ah here it is here it is watch
this grip and when you see the hand grip
I want you to see something very key
that happens
watch here
there do you see that I don't know if
you saw that but clearly if you look
very closely you're going to see this
box is empty you know that because
imagine picking up a box with just like
two fingers putting a a pressure point
so you're basically making a how should
I say you're making kind of a pivot
point on something right and if it's
slightly unbalanced it's going to fall
right out of your hands so you pick up
anything like that it's going to tip
over look I'll take this iPad for an
example if if I go to pick up this iPad
and I pick it up slightly too far at the
front what's going to happen it's going
to fall right if I pick it up slightly
too far at the back what's going to
happen it's going to fall if I pick it
up perfectly in the middle and then I
start walk see I can't even get it right
and I start walking with it it's going
to have like this little wobble to it
right watch that video watch that
wobble boom see that wobble look at that
wobble it kind of got lucky where it
pinched it imagine there was stuff
actually in it now that's figure AI
again it's early yes it's cool
Terminator this that everybody's excited
about it there's a lot of work to be
done here now that doesn't mean it's not
technology that's worth investing in I'm
actually bullish on investing in things
that are humanoid robot uh or in the
direction of humanoid robots or whatever
like I'm bullish on that whole world but
I want to be clear pricing that hopium
into Tesla is not probably going to help
us much for our four-year growth Target
so what does the stock market do the
stock market only gives a crap about the
next 18
months so forget your four year forget
five or 10 year price Target doesn't
matter why is the stock down today
because over the next 18 months Tesla's
probably looking at negative
growth and I hate to say it I really
hate to say it because I I feel like I'm
a big believer that you know the FED has
has overtightened interest rates need to
come down substantially but you know
what I wrote this on ec.com this morning
and I was very clear about it I said
look jpow speaks this week and what are
we faced with the loosest financial
conditions we've had all
year the earn the uh layoff recession
isn't occurring
the New York Community Bank issue is
probably idiosyncratic I talked about
all this this morning like you can see
my detail on that video from this
morning real estate prices at least in
single family are stable in multif
family and Commercial you have problems
but that creates
opportunity and even Atlanta fed's GDP
growth estimat which just fell a percent
is still at 2.1
so you don't really have this necessity
of cuts ASAP in fact if anything the
whole AI re ution hurt Tesla because
Tesla has used ai ai since before the AI
Revolution so it didn't really benefit
much I don't think from the AI
Revolution sure maybe you get some more
powerful chips out of it to help learn
or or teach FSD a little better but what
you're actually getting is a stronger
GDP as a result of the AI spend and that
leads to more jobs which leads to less
urgency to cut rates which hurts an
interest rate sensitive stock like Tesla
so now you look at this company you go
well damn FSD issues cyber truck issues
negative growth the Chinese numbers I I
mean you have to lie to yourself to tell
you that they're good oh and then you
got the deflation Paradox wh why please
those of you who have watched my channel
for years you know I say this I say this
over and over and over again why is
deflation bad or at least why do
economists think inflation is bad
because when deflation occurs people
stop spending money because they expect
things are going to get cheaper so
therefore they wait for it to be cheaper
they stop spending which then crushes
the economy it's what China is going to
experience oh great Tesla's exposed to
China we know that
already the deflation Paradox when it
comes to Tesla is oh Tesla prices are
plummeting basically another price cut
every so often you know all you have to
do is wait two months and you get
another price cut why would you invest
in a new Tesla now
just wait wait for rates to come down
wait for prices to stop falling so you
don't have negative equity after you buy
something wait for FSD to get cheaper so
all of that together is not great now
sure it is good that more people have
jobs real wages are positive when the
economy booms maybe people will spend
more money on vehicles it is entirely
possible that China is just in the
dump and the United States is going to
blow us out of the water that is
entirely possible but but I'm going to
tell you
something and and some people are really
bagging on this guy and he doesn't
deserve it you should know Troy teslik
he does uh estimates or whatever with
the VIN numbers for
Teslas not very optimistic on us DMV
registrations for q1 so it's not just
China in fact Wall Street is forecasting
49,000 vehicles to be delivered in q1
518 Q2 54.5 Q3 573 Q4
that's like 2.1 million which would
represent about 17.2% annual growth and
then 30% from there but what happens if
that q1 number is actually 450 and each
one of those is actually lower well then
you're not looking at 70% growth anymore
so you got to write down the stock so
Wall Street is overly optimistic at
least based on these Chinese numbers and
Troy's q1 estimates which maybe Troy's
just wrong which would be great but it's
possible you could go he's got like a
patreon or whatever you could go look at
if you want so then you have to consider
and I hate to say it but you have to
consider the
brand Tesla's not the brand it used to
be like Elon hate Elon don't care
doesn't matter the fact is whether it's
mainstream media bagging on EVS or it's
bagging on FSD or it's bagging on elon's
Antics on Twitter where he's basically
just become a
politician Tesla's brand has been
hurt maybe one day they can fix it maybe
they can still go on to be the most
prolific Vehicle Manufacturer that
exists
maybe but I I don't know if that's
clear so sentiment right now could not
be worse and this is compounded by the
fact that you've got the attorneys who
basically eradicated elon's shareholder
approved Compensation Plan demanding $6
billion of Tesla's stock to prevent uh
that from being a cash expense now those
attorneys are probably only going to get
like 10% but that's still $600
million you shoot High to get the news
because then everybody looks up the
attorneys and they're like I want to
hire that attorney it's a big ad it's a
big ask it's a big ad it's it's just
part of the
game Ford by the way expected to lose
$5.5 billion this year on electric
vehicles that's on top of the nearly 52
billion they lost last year year Volvo
is cutting EVS alt together Global
shipments for EVS are only expected to
grow at 25% this year so it's not just
Tesla byd is also down by the way like
37% since last year with these February
release numbers but that 25% EV shipment
number is down from 36% growth last year
and 96% growth the year before that so
yeah EV sales are slowing down probably
because just across the board we're
seeing numbers slow now I do have all
Autos numbers Autos per Goldman Sachs
for February did actually beat
expectations this is broadly our
consensus was 15.4 Million uh in an
annualized adjusted annualized rate
seasonally adjusted annualized rate we
actually hit 16 mil in February which
was actually better than expected but EV
mix stayed
stable so some people are wondering
could this potentially be the car bottom
maybe but even if it is is I'm not sure
if it is a benefact or if Tesla is a
benefactor of that now I do think that
Tesla will survive in the long run I
want to be clear about that I do think
Tesla is going to survive in the long
run
but want be
clear like it's there's nothing so
exciting where I'm like oh my gosh wall
Street's wrong this stock should be
skyrocketing that's just not there right
now will that happen in the
future hopefully is it here now no so is
that challenging ABS freaking lutely
does it suck if you're a Tesla share
older absolutely that's why a lot of
people just selling calls on the sucker
it is massively shorted we know
that so it ain't easy but it is what it
is so there's your Tesla update I
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ending so I have to press the button
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