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Sudden panic volume. Look at that sudden
volume on the cues. Talked about the
Federal Reserve. Talked about exactly
what's going on in the economy. Why this
could be happening? What stocks are
doing well? Why is Tesla tanking? Why
did we see exactly this tank coming in
the Me Kevin Alpha report when yesterday
morning we said boys and girls 579 don't
get bullish on 500 the tops in we're
going back to 414. People thought I was
crazy. Look at it. We're at 420, almost
back at 414.
Wow. Damn that meat Kevin Alpha report.
But what's going on? Is this just a
temporary little volume panic or what
are the institutions reacting to? Well,
Fed Myin, who's like the resident Dove?
And when I say resident Dove, I mean he
is the epitome of Dove. a little bit of
a softening of his stance this morning
talking about, oh, you know, I might
have to flip-flop if rental inflation
comes up, which, you know, going into
this is actually a little problematic
because if you look at what's going on
with shelter inflation and the trend
we've been seeing, the trend has been
down on rental inflation. But look at
the last CPI read, rent of shelter last
the the last three months. 2 great 2
great then point 4 oh no what happened
here oh no rent of shelter sneaking up a
little bit as long as well as lodging
away from home though that significantly
less of a an impact what's a broad
impact here is that owner's equivalent
rent you're making up about 26% uh
shelter in total making up about 35% of
CPI 25% of PCE feds in preferred level
but take a look at this also a little
bit of rising gauge. Uh, and so we're
going to listen to Myron and see what he
says here because we don't really want
that flip. And and as a result, we've
just got the 10-year Treasury moving up
about a basis point and a half. Not
great, but what is great is that we
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schllo up on the cues because the
institutions go, "Oh my gosh, we didn't
get unemployment claims data." I
announced that right here and it's
exactly what happened. Slow schlog up
today. I'm like, "We didn't get jobs
data. Institutions might want to dump
again and then expect a slow schlo after
that." Literally exactly what happened
last two days. I also said yesterday in
the course member live, people were
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yesterday. Absolutely nailed it. Down
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This we're on a great trend. They're
really excited about this. Uh, so and
and the two stocks that we said
medium-term are really bullish, you
know, technical analysis wise,
fundamental analysis wise, they're doing
really well right now as well. Let's
listen in over here though to Myron
>> for joining us on this non-job day, jobs
day. Uh we get no government primary
economic data because
>> the only thing we got this morning were
ISMs and PMIs which the ISMs and PMIs
just to like like to get this out of the
freaking way cuz it just doesn't
freaking matter. They were pretty benign
honestly. There wasn't really anything
exciting in them. We did though see some
warning that we might start seeing a
sneak up uh in the um uh the inflation
impact of tariffs at some companies uh
like especially food importing
companies. We saw restaurants
complaining a little bit but broadly we
saw a little bit of a weakening of new
orders and a little bit of softening in
employment since we're still in
contraction on a lot of these surveys.
We didn't get any kind of smoking gun to
any direction. And broadly, if you look
at the um uh the S&P report, the S&P
report still indicates GDP growing at
2.4%. So, not bad for for the quarter.
Nothing really shocking out of those
reports that are a replacement for the
jobs data this morning because of the
shutdown right now. So, let me start by
asking uh if that continues, as a member
of the open market committee, would you
feel comfortable voting for a
significant cut in interest rates if you
don't have data on employment and on
inflation?
>> Good morning and thanks for having me.
Look, I think it's important to
recognize first of all that as you're
pointing out, access to highquality data
is
>> Love the tie, by the way. Love the tie.
I'm surprised it's not purple. It's
leaning a little left here, man. But
it's a great color
>> is of utmost importance when making
monetary policy decisions. However, it's
also the case that we don't make
monetary policy decisions every day.
Right? The FOMC meets to vote once every
6 weeks or so. Now, I think that's a bit
longer than most shutdowns have
historically lasted. So, I'm hopeful
that we'll get the data by the time we
actually have to make the decision.
Well, despite what the president says,
as you well know, inflation is rising.
Uh food prices are up, gasoline prices
higher than when he took office. uh
those are the prices that Americans
notice and hate. So isn't it a risk to
cut rates significantly in an regime
where uh
>> there is also the psychology I'm telling
you I was just at like it just it the
best example I could give you about the
psychology is I'm at the AT&T store
dealing with some bull crap customer
service trash that I shouldn't have to
be dealing with. Damn you AT&T. I never
have these issues with T-Mobile Mentor
Verizon. Anyway, the gentleman was very
nice. He's like, "Oh, I just bought a
home. I just think it's, you know, I
hope rates come down. I just think it's
weird. You know, inflation's still so
high, but but I guess they're talking
about lowering interest rates." That was
sort of his like as a human reaction.
And I'm like thinking to myself, "Oh
man, that's exactly the inflation
psychology problem that Jerome Powell
has to fight. He has to fight this." Oh,
look, Bloomberg's talking about
statistics in the entire world. To your
point, Vishy, if we aren't going to have
those, it's problematic. Jamie,
>> this is Goulby talking about it's
problematic if we're not going to have
this data. So, a lot of Fed speak coming
out today. Uh, obviously, you know, Myin
flipping on on the dove script a little
bit. Less ideal. We We want the Dove to
continue being a dove, please.
Oops.
Oops. So my view is that policy should
be forward-looking, right? I don't
necessarily have a forecast that those
items are going to continue rising. In
fact, I'd think that a lot of them will
actually reverse somewhat. But my but
for my process, what matters most of all
is the cost of housing because that is
the single largest component of the
inflation process. And it's also one of
the things that people notice the most.
They notice when their rent surges. They
notice when the cost of shelter
increases and that's why it gets the
largest weight in the inflation indices.
And my expectation is that we've just
experienced, you know, the biggest
population shocks uh to both the upside
and the downside in my lifetime and I
think in most people's lifetimes. And to
me, it would be very surprising if that
>> that's a good point. I mean, you had a
population shock to the upside with
immigration and then a downside with the
reversal of that immigration
>> trace on the price of shelter. And so I
am expecting a significant disinflation
to the services component of the
inflation disease driven by shelter
which is affected to an extent by
changes in population. So he is
expecting shelter prices to continue to
fall.
>> Okay. Hopefully
>> growth. Well, we were talking before we
came on about your view of our star, the
neutral rate.
>> And and I should be clear, rent
inflation to fall, which doesn't mean
that rent prices fall. It just means
they stop rising at a rapid pace.
>> We've got inflation running at basically
3%. You've got unemployment at 4.3%
which is historically very low. The
Atlanta Fed says we're growing 3.8% or
grew 3.8% in the third quarter. Uh
there's no economic model that I know of
that would get you to a near zero uh
neutral rate with those kind of
conditions.
>> Yeah. So, first of all, uh I've have
seen some folks argue that they think
that my conception of the neutral rate
is zero. That's not the case. I think
that's a misreading of the speech. If
you read the speech carefully, you'll
notice that I do a weighted average of a
model implied Xanti and a market implied
uh Xanti rate and it gets to about a
half. And that's consistent with the dot
that I put down on the statement on the
summary of economic projections. And so
I basically thought, you know, sort of
going into things last year, there were
all these policies that were pushing our
higher like uh highest population growth
we'd seen. It's also worth remembering
that it is true that gas prices you know
have gone up uh a bit but and and those
are very very visible but really like
how much of a component is that that the
Fed cares about less because remember we
look at core so often right I'm just
looking at some of your comments
>> decades the largest fiscal you know
sustainable fiscal deficits we'd seen
sustained fiscal deficits we'd seen in a
really long time those are pushing our
star higher so last year I really
thought it was at the top of the range
of where everyone else in the committee
thought it was. And I think it's now
come down this year to the bottom end of
the range of of of where everyone else
thinks it is.
>> But you can't model that.
>> What do you mean I can't model?
>> The models, if you put in the numbers
that we have right now, it wouldn't spit
out near zero or or half a percent.
>> Oh, re real real rate. Well, no, but
what I've done what I've done is modeled
my
>> Yeah, people do this a lot. They get
really confused
between a real rate and and like a
neutral rate. Like for example, there
was another Fed speaker a couple days
ago and they're like, "Oh, I think you
know the neutral rate is 75 basis
points." Uh, like the real neutral rate
is 75 basis points. And the idea there
is the neutral rate is probably 2.75
because you add in the 2% inflation
target 2 and then you add in the 75
premium and then you get to a real
neutral rate of just 75 bips. That
confuses people. So when you hear that,
keep that in mind a little bit. It's
almost like designed to be confusing
when we think of a neutral rate. Uh and
and just looking at some other notes
here really quickly. Uh Myron does say
that he has not yet had an interview for
Fed chair. I'm actually surprised by
that because I feel like he's he's he's
actually a pretty solid I think
intellectually sound economist. I
thought he was on like frankly just
going to be like a Kevin Hasset shill.
Uh but he's pretty good. So, you know, I
I I I like listening to him as a result
of that. Uh he says that uh yeah, if
shocks if if shock pushes rents higher,
I would adjust my inflation view. Then
we've also got Goulsby seeing both sides
of the Fed mandate deteriorating but
wary of front loading interest rate cuts
because Fed data suggests the labor
market is still stable. So that's
interesting because it somewhat suggests
even though we're not getting the jobs
data, the Fed's just going to sort of
look through the lack of this jobs data
and go, "Ah, we'll just assume things
are still stable, which is fine
for now until obviously pooh hits the
fan and then the Fed will prove to be
too late and prove Trump correct."
expectations for inflation based on the
changes that I see happening from uh
from housing. As we talked about a
moment ago, I've modeled out changes to
the output gap that I expect to see from
policies that expand the supply side of
the economy and therefore expand
potential output faster than they would
expand actual output. And some policies
that we've seen enacted over the course
of this year would push out potential
and actual by the same amount or bring
in potential and actual by the same
amount. Other policies would push out
one more than the other. And so for an
example of one that would push out one
more than the other would be
deregulation, right? I think that uh the
regulatory state has been being peeled
back over the course of this year and
all indications are that will accelerate
particularly as uh the pace of conf of
of confirmations of of appointees has
just picked up as well. That in my mind
will accelerate the pace of deregulation
too. And when you remove regulations,
you expand the potential output of the
economy faster than actual output. And
so that
>> yeah, this is this in other words a way
to say that hey, we could actually be
supportive without necessarily just cuts
because we could potentially lean on uh
what we're getting with with
deregulation a little bit. All
interesting, you know, I think there are
a couple of other, you know, bullish
catalysts here. I think that's a little
bit of of like, okay, I would have loved
a little bit more of a dove, but then
again, you know, I mean, there there are
things that apparently seem very bullish
right now, such as investor sentiment. I
mean, look, Goldman Sachs uh and their
clients are the least bearish that
they've been since liberation, and they
are the most bullish that they've been
since the election. So, you definitely
have FOMO fever going on. In addition to
that, I will say something that's very
bullish is this is if we could actually
strike a deal with China. Game changer.
China pushes Trump to drop curbs as it
dangles investment. China is potentially
dangling, as we're just now hearing,
reported by Bloomberg, the potential for
a $1 trillion investment into America.
Now, this is essentially the Chinese
government printing money and throwing
it into Train America and the American
stock market directed by Trump
essentially, which is brilliant uh
because China just prints the money and
who cares and they get what they want.
But I have to say this would follow the
model of Japan and other countries that
are like, "Hey man, if we can get a good
deal on tariffs, can we just promise to
invest a bunch of money into the United
States cuz we'll make money on that
anyway cuz the US goes up basically."
Uh, you know, absent obviously a
recession. Looks like China's also
trying to push back on the US stamps on
Taiwan. But this would be great because
right now we've got a lot of problems
with our Chinese negotiations. I mean, I
think China is I've been saying this for
a while. They're basically spreading the
legs, you know, going, "Hey, anybody who
wants free trade, come to China. We'll
manufacture all your stuff for you."
They're smoking us on nuclear. You know,
I was talking about that a little bit
this earlier earlier this morning. You
know, China's main competitor or is the
main competitor to the US in innovation
and deployment. And now they are
prolific investor, the most prolific
investor in nuclear energy in the world.
China fuels robotics with government
spending and initiatives. are fueling
nuclear with government incentives and
initiatives. They're basically, you
know, saying, "Hey, forget about Trump,
you know, come work with us." And
they're killing it on their expansion. I
mean, look at this. While we have the
most nuclear capacity in the world right
now, it's all from the 1970s basically
and died at Chernobyl basically. Look at
this nuclear capacity under
construction.
China smoking the entire world. We have
nothing under construction. So, China
once again dominating us. And so,
getting on the same page with China
again where they're destroying our
soybean market is so critical. Ah, this
downtrend we called on the alpha report
continuing on Tesla. Uh, and the slow
slog up continuing on the cues. Both
things we were looking at uh in the
alpha this morning. Not bad. But but
what I really want to focus on is
why is it
that China's the last to make a deal? I
think China is stubborn because I think
they honestly benefit from Trump being a
little bit of a bully. I think China
benefits from that because it lets them
go advertise themselves as, you know,
the stable people in the relationship of
of world trade. Who knows? Uh, but
beyond that, there's there's like if
we're not going to have jobs data,
which, you know, this morning I'm
looking it's 5:30 a.m. I'm like, are we
going to get jobs? Are we going to get
jobs? Are we going to get No, no, no,
no. Of course not. So, it's like, all
right, whatever. So, absent data. I
mean, we said the S&P uh services uh
indicators and the ISM services this
morning. Not bad. Nothing nothing really
scary uh to report on either of those.
And when it comes to the PMIs, we've
actually got most sectors of the economy
expanding. You know, we brought Jack in
this morning to read out that six out of
seven sectors were expanding this
morning uh per the S&P. And again, the
ISM, the ISM showing us going into a
contraction a little bit here with uh
weakness in business activity and
continued weakness in employment. It
still line us up for moderate or weak
growth. starting to see the impact of
tariffs. Construction's getting hit. AI
demand continues to remain strong.
That's where money is flowing. AI demand
and financing around AI deals. That's
where the money is going. No doubt about
that. Uh and then you know again US
services over here still you know GDP
growing at an annualized rate of two and
a half%. I actually I think I said 2.4%
earlier. So it's great. And yeah, the
index is representing a slowdown from
this peak that we had in July and hiring
activity is only increasing marginally.
We're in like molasses in terms of most
of the economy outside of AI, which
isn't great that most of the economy is
in molasses, but it's not falling off a
cliff. And I think that's where Gouls is
probably right when he says, "Hey, our
Fed data is indicating jobs data isn't
coming off a cliff just yet." Now, the
ADP numbers were absolute trash. It'd be
nice to have the jobs data, but based on
this, I don't know that two cuts are
still a foregone conclusion until we
actually get data here, and it explains
why Treasury markets are as stable as
they are right now, sitting at about
4.11 on the 10. Now, yes, you have this
fear about like the economist pointing
out, hey, credit markets look
increasingly dangerous. And this has to
do with private credit, how the
potentially masking dangers underneath
because of financing receivables at like
thericolor bankruptcy. But I mean,
broadly, you know, none of this is
suggestive that private credit or the
amount of debt in private markets is
going to lead to some kind of 2008
recession. I think it's actually more
likely that you have a labor market
recession that eventually hits and then
those sectors will get, you know,
destroyed. You'll see a lot of pain in
private credit. It'll really suck, but I
don't think those are going to be the
start of the disaster, so to speak. So,
we'll see. Uh, anyway, uh, then, uh,
what else do we have here? Delays to UAE
chip deal frustrate JSON swang. No, we
want Nvidia to keep going. Uh, so take a
look at this. This I thought was an
interesting column that's also worth
paying attention to when we look at
economic datam. So you've got Greg over
here writing on AI piece on behind jobs
weakness are hints of a productivity
revival. It's funny. I've actually got a
whole it's part of the meet Kevin
membership. I have a whole course on on
productivity and and people always
wonder like Kevin how are you so
productive? You should see the new
productivity lectures that we have
queued up that are coming out and
they're going to be great. Remember when
you join the Map membership you get
these extra lectures for free. So you
get that lifetime access. You get that
those free extra lectures. So anyway,
the economy is either booming or on the
brink of recession. Honestly, you can
make the case for either. Totally right.
You really can. This is where I I
teeter. I'm like sort of in the middle
here. You know, I'm I'm in the fours on
the bare bulls scale just because
valuations are relatively euphoric. That
doesn't mean I'm not buying. You know,
I've got my list of top 10 stocks to buy
for the next 10 years. We're on number
five, working on number six now. We've
got near-term trades we're looking at.
And I've also got a lot of like Nvidia
stock or whatever that I'm waiting to
sell, but like I don't really want to
sell it now because it's like every day
you wake up almost to make more money.
Anyway, so what do they say here? There
are possible explanations. First,
consumption, investment, and trade data
that goes into GDP for the past months
might be wrong and could be revised. So,
this is something else that I talked
about this morning is this risk that you
could see revisions to all this Atlanta
Fed GDP,
you know, these readings or the data
that we're getting. As we get data that
gets reported down the road, which
sometimes takes, you know, waiting for
tax filings and it just it takes 3 to 6
to 12 months sometimes to get the data.
You can see GDP get totally revised
down. So all this enthusiasm that we
have right now about the Atlanta Fed,
real GDP or whatever, we have to be
careful just like we don't want to be
overly pessimistic as with the numbers
that we had that were negative for for
Q1 which we recognized was just a you
know a trade situation and we were
justifying and arguing that it's wrong
like this will be revised back up. You
know we don't actually have negative -2%
GDP. Uh even though they made all the
headlines it's probably way too high
right now at 3.8%. to the revisions
that'll come. Anyway, that said,
Bitcoin's rallying right now, 1233,
which is awesome. Let's see here.
Second, the gap is anomalous and will
probably close through slower GDP, more
jobs, or both. And this is also true.
This is what people are hoping for is
that hopefully we will have a soft
landing in jobs. Here's a Renaissance
macro researcher who says consumer
spending has been driven by a drop in
savings. And according to credit card
data has already softened. This is bad
and it kind of goes with the challenger
job cuts report that suggests retailers
are hiring a lot less than they usually
do, which is seasonably very odd.
Usually
they don't uh see a drop in hiring and
the challenger job cuts report showed
some of the largest firing in in retail
uh for the last challenger read for
September. Third possibility is more
interesting. A productivity boom might
be in the works. This is you know
typically the bull argument that says oh
well everybody's so much more
productive. You don't need as many
people at jobs. I mean I get that. You
know, we we employ anything any cold
task.
This is my sort of quick productivity
tangent. Any cold task you should use AI
for. Any warm task you should not use AI
for in the work. Any warm task would be
like negotiating with a human or
providing care for a human or empathy
for a human. Stay away for for from you
know the AI for these purposes because
you're going to get more hallucinations.
You know, creativity. I I get it for
like video and picture generation, but
like business planning and things like
that, you be careful because of the
hallucinations. AI is really good at
patterns and then commenting on
patterns. So, if it's seen something
before, it can give you an answer.
Historical factecking of AI, great. Like
quick Wikipedia resources, you know,
doing black and white things over and
over again. These are cold temperature
tasks, great. We do this a lot at house
hack and frankly we we don't need the
staff that we used to. And I've been
saying it for a while. Like we could
consolidate so much and our like spoiler
alert like our numbers for Q4 and even Q
coming up on Q1 even not even
considering our Q1 are going to be
amazing for for like our I think our our
P&Ls. That's my you know my opinion so
far on what what I'm seeing. But part of
it is because we are also becoming so
much more efficient in in our processes
and part of it is you have to give
credit at least to some part to
artificial intelligence. And I'm not
even talking about the fact that we're
running Blackwell chips for our
artificial intelligence that we're going
to release in Q4Q1.
Uh the beta will be Q4 and then broader
release, you know, um for uh uh Q1. But
more just talking about even just
consumer related products that we could
use to be more productive with uh
editing videos or posting videos or
workflows uh with with business or
accounting uh reconciling you know into
it. By the way they are I think like a
hidden play for artificial intelligence
because now they're they're offering AI
to help you figure out why your stupid
bank account won't reconcile. Anybody
who's ever reconciled a bank account in
QuickBooks notice the knows it is the
worst part of accounting. And you know
now they'll sell you AI upgrades to do
it for you to tell you where maybe
there's an oopsie dupsies. Dude, I've
spent
hundreds of hours trying to figure out
where my stupid reconciliation errors
are, you know, over over my career. It's
a pain in the ass. Now AI can help you
do it in a fraction of the time. It's
amazing. So uh but do keep in mind GDP
gets revised many times. Not only do you
get after your initial release, you get
two other releases. You could even go in
the past and revise some some data like
as much as a year back. Looking at just
some of your your numbers here. Uh but
um but yes, you know, consumer spending
data has really been aligning with the
decline
in savings. Eventually, you hit the
floor. So, you know, an interesting
piece so far. Increased output with no
increase in hours means output per hour
or labor productivity grew at 3.5% at an
annualized pace which is actually yeah
that's very good because of the
divergence between GDP and employment
and this divergence won't likely be
sustained neither will productivity
performance even so including third
quarter estimate productivity has grown
2% annualized for two years now that's a
decent pickup from the 1 to one and a
half we've had before that's bullish
that's fantastic as long as you don't
get layoffs something very likely has to
do with technology. One candidate is
generative AI embodied in LLM, GPT.
Okay. Adoption has been remarkably fast.
Walmart recently said it would keep
employment flat for the next few years
as AI literally transforms every jobs. I
don't know that it transforms every job.
I think of it as augments almost every
job. You know, even in construction, you
go to Lowe's and you're like, "Oh, man.
Should I use uh the Santi or should I
use the Y for, you know, my my, you
know, sink drain? Oh, you should use a
sanitary tea." Okay, great. Like little
things like that. If you're like a newer
plumber or a newer electrician or or
whatever, that's fantastic
because it's just black and white. It's
easy and just gives you those resources
right there in your face. It's
fantastic. Uh so very very excited about
how AI could even affect the nonAI
businesses. I mean I was I was uh you
know with all my fans yesterday uh and
and I really appreciate uh all of my
fans, but I was grateful because I
didn't have to load up all my fans. Uh I
had full self-loading loading up all my
fans. This was Jack and I yesterday we
were negotiating with the uh the manager
of Lowe's. Shout out to the manager of
Lowe's over there. But um you know, it
was amazing because I was using my pro
membership and like what would have in
the store been like $2,800.
My pro membership got to $2,300
and then I negotiated with the manager
and they took it down to $2,100. And I'm
like, let's go. This is all house hack,
by the way. You know, Jack was loading
it all up for me. Be careful, by the
way. If you load the tunnel too much
over here, it'll get jammed and so ours
got jammed, so I have to be careful
about that. But, um, yeah, dude. I mean,
we got a lot of house hack renovations
going on right now. It's fun. I love
this. So, this was us at 10 p.m.
yesterday. 1000 p.m. yesterday. I I got
to show you this clip of Jack. Uh, he's
uh this poor guy. Uh we uh you know we
were dealing with a fixer upper and I
think uh we've primed this floor now
probably like three times or so uh beam
this over here. But anyway, we've got
we've got a concrete floor that at some
point, you know, we've already
chemically treated and and and um to
deal with some cat urine issues and it's
it's like a pain to deal with. But so
you we we we treat it. They're actually
technically not more natural products.
You don't want to use certain chemicals.
Anyway, long story short, we go treat
this floor. Uh, and we use some
expensive primer on it, multiple coats,
and finally, uh, it's smelling better.
Uh, it's actually, you can't even tell
anymore. It's great. I was there at like
10 p.m. yesterday. I'm like, this is
fantastic. We've solved the problem. Uh,
but this is the stuff that we do, you
know, for Houseack and and I love it. I
mean, it's my job. I'm the CEO, right?
So, I'm a little biased, but we think
we're contributing to the economy, you
know. Here's this is Jack. I make him
carry it.
I got to put him to work. I tell him I
pay him. So, I put him to work. But
anyway, this is the floor. It's just
concrete, right? And he's got his
flashlight on on his watch. And he
actually ends up saying like, "Oh, it
smells better in here." Uh, I actually I
think you could probably hear him say
that.
>> Is this the cat? Can you smell?
>> Yeah.
>> It smells better.
>> Good.
>> It smells better. I love the guy. Great
worker. I pay him, you know, but but you
got to put them to work. So, uh anyway,
so so that's pretty fun. But anyway, you
know, going on with this productivity
thing, uh like I see it like the
productivity all the time and there's so
many tools that we could use in
artificial intelligence is really really
fun. Uh so really big fans uh of of
this, you know, as you saw at a truck
full of fans. Uh but anyway, take a look
at this. uh one widely widely cited
report by NANDA uh an AI initiative at
MIT found that 95% of 52 organizations
surveyed had zero return on their AI
investments. This suggests AI has yet to
make enough impact for the economy's
aggregate productivity to move. Right?
So you're seeing it on the individual
level, but like are you able to like put
the dollars on it a lot harder?
You know, this makes sense because a lot
of these are like Wikipedia rappers
basically. That's what I call them,
chatbot rappers. Like, it's very rare
that you're seeing real artificial
intelligence products. My opinion, I'm
biased. Don't sue me, bro. Investments
can go down in value. There's risk with
every investment. Full disclaimer, none
nothing in this video is personalized
financial advice. But like what we're
doing with with our house hack AI for
example is we want to enable agents to
be able to and and consumers to rank the
best real estate deals available at any
market at any given time. So rather than
you looking at, you know, 100 or 200 new
listings every day, you just open up the
house hack AI, you pay us a few hundred
bucks a month or whatever, and it
automatically with your branding sends
to your clients the best deals in a
market using Kevin's analysis fueled by
AI. In other words, like I train the AI
and the AI does this for you
automatically in your market. Uh, you
know, we think that is actually
productive. No more clients calling you
going, "Yo, why didn't you send me this
deal?" Right?
Uh
that is a form of efficiency. That's
huge, you know, and and yeah, like we
don't know. Maybe maybe people won't buy
it, right? Like maybe people won't be
interested. I don't know. That's why I
have to, you know, sort of limit some of
my optimism, but I look at it and I'm
like, you know, if if that takes off,
it's a game changer for revenue for
House Hack. But uh you know we'll
probably I mean if it does really well
we'll we'll end our reggga round which
is at househack.com.
uh you could invest you get 5% per year
through conversion 100% of the upside in
the stock and really this the valuation
of the company has it's at the low end
of its Wall Street valuation because
we're you know we want to give a good
deal to our our uh subscribers and fans
but we think that you know once if
venture capitalists see the AI that
we're doing this round's going to close
like yesterday uh so we're pretty
excited about this once we release it
but we don't have any VCs because you
know it's just so far we've only been
selling this as just a real estate buy
and huddle company. Uh, and and the fact
that we have this AI cooking is really
exciting, but it also gives me in my
opinion so much insight into what's
going on with productivity because I
don't just use AI as much as possible as
as a CEO, as a business owner, as a
YouTuber in real estate. I see it in
construction. I see it in all these
different levels. But we're also
developing, you know, so we see the
demand for chips and GPUs. This is why I
haven't sold the millions of dollars I
have in Nvidia yet. I can't wait to
because I'm nervous because I think, you
know, the market's a little frothy, but
I also see why they have such large PP
right now.
>> Big PP.
>> So, LLMs are building on existing
investments in e-commerce, software, big
data, cloud computing, machine learning.
Recent analysis by Goldman found that
the pickup in productivity has been
concentrated in technology. Yeah,
totally. Uh, in related sectors such as
research, engineering, and consulting,
it's also more evident amongst the fast
growing superstar companies. While it's
premature to ascribe all of the
acceleration to AI, uh, industries have
some of the strongest use cases for AI.
Well, certainly like logistics, right?
Oracle. I'm nervous about the Oracle
debt bubble. I actually love that Amazon
is financing
uh less of their expansion.
Uh,
whereas Oracle is using a lot of debt.
You know, I personally don't like using
a lot of debt. Uh you I I personally I
for example like I just paid off my
house because I'm like I I don't want to
go into a recession if there's you know
if we go into a debt situation I if we
go into a recession I'd rather have my
house paid off and use that as a as a
piggy bank. I treat house hack the same
way. Like I put my money where my mouth
is. House hack is very little debt. It's
bond debt that's convertible. Uh and you
know we've got over probably around $64
million in assets cash and real estate
that's that has no debt at all. no bank
debt, nothing. Uh the company overall
somewhere knocking on the door of 80
million assets. These are rough
ballparks off the top of my head. And
you know, I think that's why we raised
over a million dollars in August. I
think we crossed a million dollars in
September. I think we raised like
$80,000 yesterday alone is people are
like, "Ah, here's a low debt company."
Uh that that is an opportunity to
diversify from like an Oracle, which is
just like take on more debt. Take on
more debt. Take on more debt. It's
crazy. It's scary to me the amount like
I I I posted a short on TikTok where I'm
like realize that the biggest risk is
assuming you can refinance because
people think that oh if I just if I just
go into debt right now it's 6 and a
half% I could always refinance if
there's a recession but what happens if
the lending standards change or the
banks are nervous to lend or you can't
get an appraisal you're screwed you
don't want to get screwed you know
bubbles can genu genu generate genuine
productivity benefits true I mean Jeff
Bezos I guess this morning. He's like,
"Oh, yeah. AI is a bubble, but it's a b
bubble that's going to have
productivity." All right, that's an
interesting line. Remember the Alamo, by
the way. It's my Alamo mug today. I'm
actually also wearing an Alamo sweater.
Alamo
sweater and mug today. We're full Alamo
today. All right, what else here?
Certainly true of the internet boom.
First five years of the boom, annual
internet related investment rose by
1.25% of GDP. Wow. Yeah, most of GDP
growth annual productivity average 2.9%
double the rate of the past two decades.
That's exciting. That rate per capita
income doubles in 24 instead of 47
years. Wow. Ah productivity is a good
thing. It just helps everyone. Raises
the standard of living for everyone.
City estimates that annual spending on
AI equipment has risen by 0.9% of GDP. A
bigger surge than the equivalent period
of the 1995 to 2004 boom. Wow. Even more
of Oh yeah, look at that. Investment in
AI overlaid. Yikes.
Yikes. Yeah, it's a bubble.
Several academics have estimated AI's
boost to productivity by measuring how
many tasks AI could automate and the
resulting cost savings. City concludes
from those estimates that AI could raise
productivity by point 2.5 to 1.5
percentage points, less than the
internet, except uh in the most bullish
scenario. That would boost growth but
push downward pressure on inflation.
Yes, that's also true. Shift towards del
deglobalization will reverse earlier
disinflation. Yeah, but we we will
reglobalize. We'll go back to
globalization. So, yeah, I mean like I I
do think there are very valid arguments
around productivity. The the only thing
we don't want is a normalization of the
beverage curve. That's the only downside
to this economy right now. If we could
verify that we are not going to
normalize the beverage curve, uh, which
is, you know, going to be fueled by
large layoffs where our unemployment
rate skyrockets to,
you know, 10%. As long as that doesn't
happen, we're good. Like there there
just aren't that many negative
catalysts. It's just that. And that's
why it's such a pisser that today we
don't get the data. Oh, damn. Our uh
medium-term one of our medium-term
trades right now is up four and a half%.
That's on top of the percentage gains
it's already had over the last couple
days that we've been talking about one
of these medium-term trades. Sweet.
Let's go. Uh Tesla's still down 19 and
uh Q's are still slogging. Slow
schlogging away. The slow schlog. Yeah,
he just not that much bad data
cuz Trump's hiding it all. Which then
also makes you wonder like does Trump
kind of want this shutdown to keep going
on? Well, partly yeah, because it's
allowing vote, Russ Vote to to go crazy.
You know, I wrote down some notes on
Vote. Vote is the chief author behind
Project 2025.
Uh he basically wants to cut everything
except social security and Medicare
because those are entitlement programs
that are huge with the Republican base.
Like actually any base. Anyone who says
they're going to cut those programs
loses elections because those are people
who actually vote.
Uh then you've got, you know, I mean, we
know he's super anti- Department of
Education, housing. He hates the food
assistance programs. Uh you've got, you
know, recently we saw, I mean, yesterday
we saw the big cuts, $8 billion in the
green energy programs to blue states. It
was all blue state governors.
And we also saw him destroy 90% of the
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau,
which is your DoddFrank ability to
replay
ability to repay uh agency, which is
scary because I, in my opinion, I don't
think we're in a housing bubble because
we've had such stable housing loans for
the past, you know, 15 years. Uh
especially because of DoddFrank ability
to repay. If you've ever gotten taken
like a lending test or whatever, you'll
know about that. But
this could actually unlock even more
crazy creative financing to where if we
don't have uh an employment bubble pop,
then we end up with crazy, you know,
arcane loan terms that allow people to
get into real estate with terms that'll
be really, really bad in a recession.
Mind you, I also tweeted, and I totally
agree with this. I'm agreeing with
myself here, but I totally think this is
valid, and I just want to reiterate it
and highlight it. I think one of the
best jobs if you were looking for a job
right now, one of the best things to
potentially get into is the lending
industry. Uh so if you could right now
get a real estate license and then get
your MLO endorsement, your mortgage loan
originator endorsement, best combo for
the next 10 years because if we go into
a jobs recession, you're going to have a
lending boom. If we go into a soft
landing, you'll have a lending boom.
That's more creative financing probably.
Uh but you also have a real estate boom
again. So real estate and lending, you
know, I think you if you got in now,
you'd be getting in at the bottom uh uh
for for that. So very very interested uh
in that. So we'll see. Uh very very
exciting. But yeah, otherwise again like
monkey see no evil monkey hear no evil.
We got we got good things going on and
the AI productivity is awesome. I mean,
if you didn't see it, I posted this
yesterday. This was a 30se second 32
second clip, entirely edited by AI, like
all of it. The music they put over this,
this icon,
the the children, uh, well, the children
aren't AI, but the the angles, it was a
360 degree camera. It's the Insta 360,
and it's just I push a button in the
app. See, Ella's holding the camera. So,
I'll give the kids the camera. Ella's
holding the camera.
And basically like it I I it was like a
4-minute recording. I press AI record
and it does the whole 30 second clip.
I'm like this is great. This is
fantastic. I could post that on our
family share because we have like a an
Apple photos family share where we have
like path kids and so that way like our
in-laws or parents or you know friends
or whatever they could post
photos of the children in that category.
So that way it's always consolidated
there and we could always just look at
pictures of the kids there and we think
it's really you know and the kids love
looking at pictures of the other kids as
well. They get exceptionally happy. uh
about that which I I think is like the
sweetest thing in the world. You know,
we had uh I had Jack yesterday uh as I
was getting ready to take him to dinner
uh before we went to go do our sort of
midnight fan work. Uh I took him to I
took him in the car and I showed him
that video clip and it was so cute
seeing his face because he loves looking
at pictures of the kids. And uh I took
this photo with my Meta glasses. Uh here
he is. You can see how excited he is
there. Uh so that's that's really always
nice to see happy children. Uh and then
I think after that, oh yeah, we went to
Wood Ranch and I had I had a ton of
bread rolls. I have way too many bread
rolls, man. It's the problem with going
to Wood Ranch.
Oh, it's the death of me. But uh yeah,
let me see here. So, I also looked up
the NIT Sloan Management Review report
found only 5% of surveyed organizations
achieved significant financial benefits
from AI, meaning 95% achieved little
return. You're not going to see it for a
while. You know, it's hard to to like
quantify this. It's going to take time
for people to really actually see this
in my opinion. China concludes AI raises
productivity. Uh and and so does city.
Yeah, well, we know that. So, uh anyway,
very exciting.
very exciting. Uh so we'll see we'll see
what happens but otherwise there's
there's nothing in the data right now
that suggests bearishness and that's
probably in part I mean obviously you
look we called the buy the rumors sell
the news on Tesla. This this was not a
surprise but that's also not even
bearish Tesla. That's just sort of like
that's called trader momentum. So I know
people like I saw a bunch of people
leaving comments like go why is Tesla
down? I'm like well apparently you
didn't read the alpha report or you're
not a member. Uh but that's okay. But uh
I think that's one of the reasons why
you're also right now seeing some of
that nice push in Bitcoin and Ethereum
which is really taking oh babies are
back in which is really taking off right
now. We're going parabolic over here in
just the last hour and it's awesome but
it's really in my opinion because well
probably Michael Sailor's buying but
there's just a lack of a downside
catalyst right now. So anyh who, good
news is you can still use coupon code
daddy's back at meetke.com.
>> Why not advertise these things that you
told us here? I feel like nobody else
knows about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you.
>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst
and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great
to get your take.
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