Elon’s Final Boss Move: IS Tesla-SpaceX Merger HAPPENING? 🚀
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Hello everybody. It is Wednesday. This
is an un unprompted video, but the world
is buzzing.
Absolutely buzzing right now. Many
believe it's the foregone conclusion
that Tesla and SpaceX will merge. which
we know already this week XAI and SpaceX
merged and of course XAI bought X and
now people are talking about building
this huge big super case. So, I'm going
to go through what investors need to
think about, assign the probabilities,
how to play this, if it's going to
happen or if it's not going to happen.
And we're going to, as usual, break out
the math behind it all. And it is a very
strange situation, but it's very
important in markets to understand where
the puck is going to be. Let's go. And
uh thank you as well to the mods in chat
for being here. And something is
different on my screen, but that's okay.
We'll work through it. And this is not
financial advice, just a guy on the
internet assessing probabilities. It's
all I do. And a big thank you as well to
Mr. Bump. Subscribe to your YouTube
channel years ago. And I wish I jumped
into Patreon sooner. Thank you for being
part of Patreon. Mr. Bump. Now, first
I'm going to break down the case for why
it would make complete sense to do Tesla
SpaceX merger. And the reasons will
surprise you surprise you as well. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. There's a reason I've been
talking about AI. Some people are
worried about crypto. This is AI is the
future, everybody. Go where the oxygen
is. It's it's huge. Anyway, Tesla,
SpaceX, uh, merger believers. Shout out
to people like Shamath who actually lit
the fire by the way of this. These are
the prominent people who have publicly
expressed belief or high optimism that a
Tesla SpaceX merger is going to happen.
Uh Kathy Wood, Arc Invest, CEO, Dan
Ives, Wed Bush Securities. I can't
remember what he said exactly, but he
said he sees a very large chance,
growing chance of Tesla merging with
Space Xi entity. Uh I think he gave a
time frame of 12 months if I'm not
mistaken. And then Aloia, shout out to
AJ, him and I have been on this from the
beginning and it's like six weeks now
when I did my first SpaceX Tesla video.
and Homemar's catalog, friend of the
channel, too. Uh, a lot of people
believe it makes total sense.
Let's dig in a little bit deeper. First
of all, SpaceX IPO you could argue is
already priced in. You know, they had a
$ 1.5 trillion plan. They bought
probably a $300 billion asset. I
assigned 1.8 trillion. So, it's kind of
priced in. So, what
reasons why this could happen? And this
goes back to kind of politics,
geopolitics, and all that stuff. But
this is my wild card. If they get a big
contract from the Department of Defense,
we know space is very, very important
for protection,
for communication, all that type of
stuff. Uh the whole space thing, people
used to think it was like Star Trek, but
now it's very real. It's also very
feasible, very possible. And the US
government has added half a trillion
dollars to their defense budget if they
decide to leverage somebody like NASA,
Lockheed or Boeing to do space. Or they
could bet on Elon Musk to get it
actually done at a far less cost than
the others. That could result in a large
amount of money for SpaceX.
Good. Then there's geopolitics, too.
Let's talk about the elephant in the
room. As you know from this channel, I
believe China has a lot more power than
the US will have a lot more power.
They're catching up with semiconductors.
They are building brilliant open-source
AI models. They are a force to be
reckoned with. Those with the most
compute, with the most energy, will win
the AI war, and that's absolutely
critical. And there is only one way for
the US to find its way out of this. And
that is with an entrepreneur like Elon
Musk. love him or hate him, he gets poop
done. Very important. Now, one other
reason why it could happen, and that is
Elon gets his 25% control, so he can't
be flicked out by some radical judge or
uh a rogue board that goes one way or
the other. That way, he has enough
control to assure his future. Now, after
all of those reasons, I'm now going to
explain why it won't happen. And you
make your own decision. I'll make I'll
give you the conclusion at the end.
Don't worry about it, too. This is the
case against a Space X merger. And I
won't go into too much detail, but you
can pause the slide and read. But first
of all, there are a ton of fiduciary
hurdles. You know, you got people like
Peter Theal, etc. And people who are in
early to SpaceX, Google, they want it to
be its own thing. They maybe don't want
shares in Tesla. And that whole parody
thing 1 and a2 trillion 1 and a2
trillion is kind of messy. Also huge
dilution risk. Tesla investors waiting
for FSD robo taxi returns would face
significant dilution to fund long-term
projects like Mars, Starship, etc. The
valuation mismatch as well. You could
argue actually if with XAI and SpaceX
1.8 trillion perhaps is my number that's
worth more than Tesla. And a lot of
people believe the cash flow could
happen. And you know the double cash
flow myth. I think it's going to be a
long time before
SpaceX kicks off a ton of cash flow to
make this merger worthwhile. They're
both at different stages of their lives.
They're both going down different paths.
Therefore, I believe there is no
financial case to be made for a merger.
Also, it would be a regulatory
nightmare. One quick thing you could
plug out here is merging a public
consumer company, auto AI company with a
major defense contractor invites very
complicated security defense clearances
would be messed up as well with
departments of defense contracts, space
contracts, etc. Just nightmare nightmare
would make no sense to poison the well
for both Tesla and SpaceX. Also,
governance headache, biggest nightmare.
Musk control is cleaner when entities
are separate.
A merger would complicate a voting
power, complicate the boards, complicate
who knows what out there. And also,
SpaceX is focused on long-term bets like
Mars, like the moon, and like
space-based data centers. We'll get to
the timelines of those, too. uh while
Tesla is based on quarter-to-arter
pressure for earnings calls and there
will be a huge culture clash as well
between the different DNA of the key
employees across this. You know, people
get lost in the shuffle and that's not
going to good as well. Let's look at
market sentiment and probabilities. We
know polyark is like 15 to 18% betting
odds of it happening i.e. a merger that
is very low. analysts believe 25% chance
and SpaceX standalone IPO I give 85%
chance right now. Now
why SpaceX IPO will probably happen i.e.
not a merger with Tesla. First of all
they've been planning for this. They've
been preparing for this. The June target
is already known. It's June 2026. uh
private tenders can no longer sustain
the scale of their ambitions to do the
type of stuff that they need to do. They
have huge capital needs. Uh they want to
start deploying a starship fleet,
building moon and Mars infrastructure,
expand Starlink V3, tens of billions of
liquidity, stick a million satellites in
space, etc. Public markets are the only
place where you can get this unless it's
a huge amount of money that could come
from the wild card from the government,
but I don't see that happening. And an
IPO also very importantly provides that
exit for the top engineering talent or
the ability for them to cash in and
that's crucial for retention as well of
key people within the companies. A quick
view as to my projected prices IPO
mechanics is a lot of money on hand here
just by floating SpaceX and XAI 1.8
trillion is my bogey. They should easily
be able to raise $50 billion and that
will give Elon all the liquidity he
needs. He doesn't have to, you know,
poison the well, confuse the pooch,
whatever. And this is going to happen in
2026, I believe. So, and another thing,
a couple of technical factors here that
are very, very important when think
about SpaceX. A lot of people think, oh,
we're going to have data centers in
space by the end of the year or next
year. No, it's not going to happen
because there's a lot of technical stuff
that even me as a lay person can see.
So, LEO is not a friend of the channel.
LEO means low Earth orbit and Starship
getting stuff to low Earth orbit today.
I think with Falcon 9, it's about $2 to
$3,000 per kilogram. We need to get to
$100 per kilogram. Sticking stuff in low
Earth orbit to make spacebased data
centers worthwhile. And we are a long
way away from that my friends. Yes, they
are testing V4 pretty soon. Yes, it can
carry a lot of stuff up there but yes
there is a lot of technical requirements
and difficulty. two of them that I see
as well again as a non-space technical
person thermal management the vacuum
problem in space it has no air cooling
no water cooling therefore it needs to
be radiated away uh using the Stefan
Boltzman law which requires massive
radiator panels for example a 1 megawatt
Elon already has a gigawatt data center
a 1 megawatt data center would need
thousands of square meters of radiators
creating immense drag and mass up there
in space also for the ability for them
to be hit by things floating through
space and radiation hardening. It messes
with advanced AI chips that are less
than 5 or 7 nmters and they are very
vulnerable to radiation and shielding is
required and shielding is very heavy a
kilogram per kilowatt and this also is a
huge technical barrier that needs to be
overcome. We are not there yet. Not by
any stretch of the imagination. So when
people talk about putting data centers
in space next year, no. These things
take a long time. It's never been done
before. It's tricky. Lots of other
tricky stuff to bear in mind regarding
Earth for space. Yeah, cooling
efficiency is better, but in space you
need a lot of radiators. As I mentioned,
hundreds of meters of square meters of
this to happen. maintenance. You can fix
things on Earth pretty easy. In space,
you can't. If it breaks, you're toast.
You're cooked. You need to just deploy a
new one or have some redundant
satellites up there. Latency less than 5
milliseconds
and needs to be 20 to 100 milliseconds
in space. So, I don't know if it's fast
enough yet. We still need to get there,
too. And yeah, land is cheap and
renewables, nuclear are possible, but
the cost structure for space is
extremely expensive. Very high launch
costs way more than $100 a kilogram.
It's optimistic. And a lot of weight for
shielding. And it takes years and years
to plan this. So again, going back to
space data centers 2027, not going to
happen. Don't hold your breath, my
friends. This is a long way off. And
that's a big part of the case I'm making
too because we're on the cusp of
something huge with Tesla but not with
SpaceX. Big difference. Now when when
space data centers well is a little
idea. So Starship hopefully be fully
baked by 2027
and refueling in space is going to be
very important. 2028 they'll be the
first prototypes small pilots of these
little data centers in space. And then
2029, 2030 maybe the first commercial
revenues from these data centers in
space. And after 2030, material revenue
impact. So we'd have to wait 5 years for
this to happen. And you know, stock
markets, equity markets are very
impatient. If they don't see their
money, they move on to the next literary
thing in the room. They're not going to
wait 5 years for material revenue to pop
in. And I've shared this before. I'll
just go through it real briefly again.
Tam time the total addressable market on
earth for Tesla are far far higher than
the TAMs in space. That will change but
the total addressable market for Tesla
by 2032 is about 42 trillion. The total
addressable market for SpaceX by 2030 is
about 2.5 trillion. It's already going
to IPO at 1.8 trillion. Fairly valued.
Not much upside. However, the upside for
Tesla is massive. Huge. Insane. And all
of this stuff is going to unccork right
now as we speak. Well, give or take few
months, few years, etc. The 14
catalysts, the 14 lines of business, as
I call them. You got your EVs, your FSD,
your robot taxis, cyber cabs, humanoid
robots coming, we're going to see
version three hopefully in Q1. Energy
storage selling like hotcakes. Solar
energy, they're doubling down on that.
Global chargers, global gas stations all
over the planet. insurance software and
services battery production 4680 is now
has a dry cathode manufacturing tech
gigafactories cannot be replicated by
anybody will have incar inference now
for AI as well connected to guess what
SpaceX satellites so they can still have
their synergy without having to own them
uh they'll be building their custom
silicon they already do but look forward
to AI5 6 7 and 8 I think seven and eight
or six and seven will be ready for space
but that is years out my friends. Okay,
AI5 may not happen until next year. Then
we need AI 6, which would be the year
after. I know they want to be in 9 month
cycles, but you know, so much is needed.
And then Tesla Semi is going into scale
production as we speak. All very big.
Therefore, mathematically, SpaceX fairly
valued. You could argue overhyped. Tesla
undervalued because of all this goodness
coming our way real soon. And finally,
very important note, conglomerates trade
at a discount. If you are in capital
markets, you don't want a bad mixed bag
of stuff. You want very discreet
operations. You want maybe your space
and your AI and you want your robots and
your cyber cabs. Not necessarily one big
bag of everything. There will come a day
where it'll have to be a big bag of
everything, but not for the next three
to five years is my gambit. So let's get
to the conclusion my friends and this is
actually a relief. We do not want a
conglomerate. We want maximum value in
both separate entities. Not big
dilution. Look at the big Indian
conglomerates of Tada and all these
guys.
If they broke them all into little
pieces it'd be worth a lot more than the
conglomerate. But I want to talk very
importantly about what I call strategic
divergence.
Separation of these entities for now for
the next three to five years will allow
Tesla to focus on execution
execution for energy for mass m
manufacturing of cyber cabs and autonomy
and humanoid robotics. We're right
there. We're on the cusp.
We don't have to wait 5 years. The money
is right there. We can reach out and
touch it. But the SpaceX X entity needs
to do some crazy stuff. They need to
solve a lot of very technical problems
and it's going to take 3 to 5 years
before we start seeing material revenue
beyond what Starlink does today. Very
important. They are not the same. They
are at very different stages of the life
cycle. Okay. And finally, my three-year
outlook 3 to 5 years. No merger
imminent. It's too many barriers, too
complex. The standalone IPO will happen
and spacebased
data centers will happen too, but not
materially until nearly 2030. That is
the data, the facts of life. And my
conclusion, I'm the only one out there
that's saying this isn't going to
happen. I'm 85 95% sure it's not going
to happen because it doesn't make sense
right now. No merger serves the
shareholders of both entities. Okay? But
we don't want a conglomerate. A
standalone SpaceX IPO cleanly funds
their unique ambitions. They might get a
Department of Defense contract, an extra
50 billion in the bag, added to 50
billion from the IPO, $100 billion.
That's all they need. And Tesla needs to
focus on execution, execution,
execution. Elon has his comp plan, which
gets him to where he wants to be. And
spacebased data centers. Do not hold
your breath. 3 to 5 years out, my
friends. At the earliest. At the
earliest. and I'll bet my bottom dollar
on that. Hope you enjoyed the show. Big
thank you, Shauny, Cipher, Sniper, TND,
K8, and everybody else. And I'm sorry,
but the markets suck,
but you know, I've been saying it's
going to be a horrible early 2026 for a
long time now. Zeno, GQ Trader, Steo,
Cybertruck, Crypto, Tesla, and Buckhorn
as Tesla shareholders. We do not want a
conglomerate yet.
When Tesla gets to the stage where they
can ramp their silicone production and
Starship is cooked, getting stuff into
space for 100 kg or less, $100 per
kilogram or less, then we're good to go.
Then the synergy will create massive
free cash flow from both entities at the
same time. But now would be a bad time
for a marriage.
Hope you enjoy the show. See you
tomorrow. Bye.
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