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Elon’s Final Boss Move: IS Tesla-SpaceX Merger HAPPENING? 🚀

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Hello everybody. It is Wednesday. This

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is an un unprompted video, but the world

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is buzzing.

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Absolutely buzzing right now. Many

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believe it's the foregone conclusion

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that Tesla and SpaceX will merge. which

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we know already this week XAI and SpaceX

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merged and of course XAI bought X and

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now people are talking about building

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this huge big super case. So, I'm going

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to go through what investors need to

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think about, assign the probabilities,

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how to play this, if it's going to

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happen or if it's not going to happen.

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And we're going to, as usual, break out

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the math behind it all. And it is a very

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strange situation, but it's very

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important in markets to understand where

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the puck is going to be. Let's go. And

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uh thank you as well to the mods in chat

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for being here. And something is

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different on my screen, but that's okay.

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We'll work through it. And this is not

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financial advice, just a guy on the

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internet assessing probabilities. It's

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all I do. And a big thank you as well to

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Mr. Bump. Subscribe to your YouTube

1:12

channel years ago. And I wish I jumped

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into Patreon sooner. Thank you for being

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part of Patreon. Mr. Bump. Now, first

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I'm going to break down the case for why

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it would make complete sense to do Tesla

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SpaceX merger. And the reasons will

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surprise you surprise you as well. Yeah,

1:32

yeah, yeah. There's a reason I've been

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talking about AI. Some people are

1:35

worried about crypto. This is AI is the

1:38

future, everybody. Go where the oxygen

1:40

is. It's it's huge. Anyway, Tesla,

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SpaceX, uh, merger believers. Shout out

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to people like Shamath who actually lit

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the fire by the way of this. These are

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the prominent people who have publicly

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expressed belief or high optimism that a

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Tesla SpaceX merger is going to happen.

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Uh Kathy Wood, Arc Invest, CEO, Dan

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Ives, Wed Bush Securities. I can't

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remember what he said exactly, but he

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said he sees a very large chance,

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growing chance of Tesla merging with

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Space Xi entity. Uh I think he gave a

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time frame of 12 months if I'm not

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mistaken. And then Aloia, shout out to

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AJ, him and I have been on this from the

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beginning and it's like six weeks now

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when I did my first SpaceX Tesla video.

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and Homemar's catalog, friend of the

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channel, too. Uh, a lot of people

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believe it makes total sense.

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Let's dig in a little bit deeper. First

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of all, SpaceX IPO you could argue is

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already priced in. You know, they had a

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$ 1.5 trillion plan. They bought

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probably a $300 billion asset. I

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assigned 1.8 trillion. So, it's kind of

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priced in. So, what

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reasons why this could happen? And this

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goes back to kind of politics,

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geopolitics, and all that stuff. But

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this is my wild card. If they get a big

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contract from the Department of Defense,

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we know space is very, very important

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for protection,

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for communication, all that type of

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stuff. Uh the whole space thing, people

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used to think it was like Star Trek, but

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now it's very real. It's also very

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feasible, very possible. And the US

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government has added half a trillion

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dollars to their defense budget if they

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decide to leverage somebody like NASA,

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Lockheed or Boeing to do space. Or they

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could bet on Elon Musk to get it

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actually done at a far less cost than

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the others. That could result in a large

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amount of money for SpaceX.

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Good. Then there's geopolitics, too.

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Let's talk about the elephant in the

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room. As you know from this channel, I

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believe China has a lot more power than

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the US will have a lot more power.

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They're catching up with semiconductors.

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They are building brilliant open-source

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AI models. They are a force to be

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reckoned with. Those with the most

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compute, with the most energy, will win

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the AI war, and that's absolutely

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critical. And there is only one way for

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the US to find its way out of this. And

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that is with an entrepreneur like Elon

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Musk. love him or hate him, he gets poop

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done. Very important. Now, one other

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reason why it could happen, and that is

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Elon gets his 25% control, so he can't

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be flicked out by some radical judge or

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uh a rogue board that goes one way or

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the other. That way, he has enough

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control to assure his future. Now, after

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all of those reasons, I'm now going to

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explain why it won't happen. And you

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make your own decision. I'll make I'll

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give you the conclusion at the end.

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Don't worry about it, too. This is the

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case against a Space X merger. And I

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won't go into too much detail, but you

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can pause the slide and read. But first

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of all, there are a ton of fiduciary

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hurdles. You know, you got people like

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Peter Theal, etc. And people who are in

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early to SpaceX, Google, they want it to

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be its own thing. They maybe don't want

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shares in Tesla. And that whole parody

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thing 1 and a2 trillion 1 and a2

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trillion is kind of messy. Also huge

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dilution risk. Tesla investors waiting

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for FSD robo taxi returns would face

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significant dilution to fund long-term

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projects like Mars, Starship, etc. The

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valuation mismatch as well. You could

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argue actually if with XAI and SpaceX

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1.8 trillion perhaps is my number that's

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worth more than Tesla. And a lot of

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people believe the cash flow could

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happen. And you know the double cash

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flow myth. I think it's going to be a

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long time before

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SpaceX kicks off a ton of cash flow to

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make this merger worthwhile. They're

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both at different stages of their lives.

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They're both going down different paths.

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Therefore, I believe there is no

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financial case to be made for a merger.

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Also, it would be a regulatory

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nightmare. One quick thing you could

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plug out here is merging a public

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consumer company, auto AI company with a

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major defense contractor invites very

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complicated security defense clearances

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would be messed up as well with

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departments of defense contracts, space

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contracts, etc. Just nightmare nightmare

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would make no sense to poison the well

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for both Tesla and SpaceX. Also,

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governance headache, biggest nightmare.

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Musk control is cleaner when entities

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are separate.

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A merger would complicate a voting

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power, complicate the boards, complicate

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who knows what out there. And also,

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SpaceX is focused on long-term bets like

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Mars, like the moon, and like

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space-based data centers. We'll get to

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the timelines of those, too. uh while

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Tesla is based on quarter-to-arter

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pressure for earnings calls and there

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will be a huge culture clash as well

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between the different DNA of the key

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employees across this. You know, people

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get lost in the shuffle and that's not

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going to good as well. Let's look at

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market sentiment and probabilities. We

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know polyark is like 15 to 18% betting

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odds of it happening i.e. a merger that

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is very low. analysts believe 25% chance

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and SpaceX standalone IPO I give 85%

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chance right now. Now

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why SpaceX IPO will probably happen i.e.

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not a merger with Tesla. First of all

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they've been planning for this. They've

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been preparing for this. The June target

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is already known. It's June 2026. uh

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private tenders can no longer sustain

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the scale of their ambitions to do the

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type of stuff that they need to do. They

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have huge capital needs. Uh they want to

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start deploying a starship fleet,

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building moon and Mars infrastructure,

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expand Starlink V3, tens of billions of

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liquidity, stick a million satellites in

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space, etc. Public markets are the only

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place where you can get this unless it's

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a huge amount of money that could come

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from the wild card from the government,

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but I don't see that happening. And an

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IPO also very importantly provides that

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exit for the top engineering talent or

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the ability for them to cash in and

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that's crucial for retention as well of

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key people within the companies. A quick

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view as to my projected prices IPO

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mechanics is a lot of money on hand here

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just by floating SpaceX and XAI 1.8

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trillion is my bogey. They should easily

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be able to raise $50 billion and that

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will give Elon all the liquidity he

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needs. He doesn't have to, you know,

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poison the well, confuse the pooch,

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whatever. And this is going to happen in

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2026, I believe. So, and another thing,

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a couple of technical factors here that

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are very, very important when think

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about SpaceX. A lot of people think, oh,

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we're going to have data centers in

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space by the end of the year or next

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year. No, it's not going to happen

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because there's a lot of technical stuff

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that even me as a lay person can see.

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So, LEO is not a friend of the channel.

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LEO means low Earth orbit and Starship

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getting stuff to low Earth orbit today.

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I think with Falcon 9, it's about $2 to

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$3,000 per kilogram. We need to get to

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$100 per kilogram. Sticking stuff in low

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Earth orbit to make spacebased data

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centers worthwhile. And we are a long

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way away from that my friends. Yes, they

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are testing V4 pretty soon. Yes, it can

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carry a lot of stuff up there but yes

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there is a lot of technical requirements

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and difficulty. two of them that I see

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as well again as a non-space technical

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person thermal management the vacuum

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problem in space it has no air cooling

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no water cooling therefore it needs to

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be radiated away uh using the Stefan

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Boltzman law which requires massive

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radiator panels for example a 1 megawatt

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Elon already has a gigawatt data center

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a 1 megawatt data center would need

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thousands of square meters of radiators

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creating immense drag and mass up there

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in space also for the ability for them

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to be hit by things floating through

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space and radiation hardening. It messes

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with advanced AI chips that are less

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than 5 or 7 nmters and they are very

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vulnerable to radiation and shielding is

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required and shielding is very heavy a

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kilogram per kilowatt and this also is a

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huge technical barrier that needs to be

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overcome. We are not there yet. Not by

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any stretch of the imagination. So when

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people talk about putting data centers

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in space next year, no. These things

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take a long time. It's never been done

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before. It's tricky. Lots of other

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tricky stuff to bear in mind regarding

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Earth for space. Yeah, cooling

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efficiency is better, but in space you

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need a lot of radiators. As I mentioned,

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hundreds of meters of square meters of

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this to happen. maintenance. You can fix

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things on Earth pretty easy. In space,

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you can't. If it breaks, you're toast.

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You're cooked. You need to just deploy a

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new one or have some redundant

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satellites up there. Latency less than 5

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milliseconds

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and needs to be 20 to 100 milliseconds

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in space. So, I don't know if it's fast

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enough yet. We still need to get there,

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too. And yeah, land is cheap and

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renewables, nuclear are possible, but

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the cost structure for space is

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extremely expensive. Very high launch

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costs way more than $100 a kilogram.

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It's optimistic. And a lot of weight for

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shielding. And it takes years and years

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to plan this. So again, going back to

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space data centers 2027, not going to

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happen. Don't hold your breath, my

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friends. This is a long way off. And

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that's a big part of the case I'm making

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too because we're on the cusp of

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something huge with Tesla but not with

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SpaceX. Big difference. Now when when

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space data centers well is a little

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idea. So Starship hopefully be fully

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baked by 2027

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and refueling in space is going to be

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very important. 2028 they'll be the

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first prototypes small pilots of these

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little data centers in space. And then

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2029, 2030 maybe the first commercial

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revenues from these data centers in

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space. And after 2030, material revenue

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impact. So we'd have to wait 5 years for

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this to happen. And you know, stock

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markets, equity markets are very

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impatient. If they don't see their

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money, they move on to the next literary

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thing in the room. They're not going to

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wait 5 years for material revenue to pop

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in. And I've shared this before. I'll

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just go through it real briefly again.

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Tam time the total addressable market on

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earth for Tesla are far far higher than

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the TAMs in space. That will change but

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the total addressable market for Tesla

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by 2032 is about 42 trillion. The total

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addressable market for SpaceX by 2030 is

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about 2.5 trillion. It's already going

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to IPO at 1.8 trillion. Fairly valued.

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Not much upside. However, the upside for

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Tesla is massive. Huge. Insane. And all

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of this stuff is going to unccork right

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now as we speak. Well, give or take few

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months, few years, etc. The 14

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catalysts, the 14 lines of business, as

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I call them. You got your EVs, your FSD,

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your robot taxis, cyber cabs, humanoid

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robots coming, we're going to see

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version three hopefully in Q1. Energy

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storage selling like hotcakes. Solar

13:36

energy, they're doubling down on that.

13:38

Global chargers, global gas stations all

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over the planet. insurance software and

13:43

services battery production 4680 is now

13:45

has a dry cathode manufacturing tech

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gigafactories cannot be replicated by

13:50

anybody will have incar inference now

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for AI as well connected to guess what

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SpaceX satellites so they can still have

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their synergy without having to own them

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uh they'll be building their custom

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silicon they already do but look forward

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to AI5 6 7 and 8 I think seven and eight

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or six and seven will be ready for space

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but that is years out my friends. Okay,

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AI5 may not happen until next year. Then

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we need AI 6, which would be the year

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after. I know they want to be in 9 month

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cycles, but you know, so much is needed.

14:22

And then Tesla Semi is going into scale

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production as we speak. All very big.

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Therefore, mathematically, SpaceX fairly

14:32

valued. You could argue overhyped. Tesla

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undervalued because of all this goodness

14:36

coming our way real soon. And finally,

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very important note, conglomerates trade

14:43

at a discount. If you are in capital

14:45

markets, you don't want a bad mixed bag

14:48

of stuff. You want very discreet

14:50

operations. You want maybe your space

14:52

and your AI and you want your robots and

14:55

your cyber cabs. Not necessarily one big

14:58

bag of everything. There will come a day

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where it'll have to be a big bag of

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everything, but not for the next three

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to five years is my gambit. So let's get

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to the conclusion my friends and this is

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actually a relief. We do not want a

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conglomerate. We want maximum value in

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both separate entities. Not big

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dilution. Look at the big Indian

15:19

conglomerates of Tada and all these

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guys.

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If they broke them all into little

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pieces it'd be worth a lot more than the

15:27

conglomerate. But I want to talk very

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importantly about what I call strategic

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divergence.

15:32

Separation of these entities for now for

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the next three to five years will allow

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Tesla to focus on execution

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execution for energy for mass m

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manufacturing of cyber cabs and autonomy

15:44

and humanoid robotics. We're right

15:46

there. We're on the cusp.

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We don't have to wait 5 years. The money

15:51

is right there. We can reach out and

15:53

touch it. But the SpaceX X entity needs

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to do some crazy stuff. They need to

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solve a lot of very technical problems

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and it's going to take 3 to 5 years

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before we start seeing material revenue

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beyond what Starlink does today. Very

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important. They are not the same. They

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are at very different stages of the life

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cycle. Okay. And finally, my three-year

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outlook 3 to 5 years. No merger

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imminent. It's too many barriers, too

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complex. The standalone IPO will happen

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and spacebased

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data centers will happen too, but not

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materially until nearly 2030. That is

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the data, the facts of life. And my

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conclusion, I'm the only one out there

16:40

that's saying this isn't going to

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happen. I'm 85 95% sure it's not going

16:44

to happen because it doesn't make sense

16:45

right now. No merger serves the

16:48

shareholders of both entities. Okay? But

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we don't want a conglomerate. A

16:52

standalone SpaceX IPO cleanly funds

16:55

their unique ambitions. They might get a

16:56

Department of Defense contract, an extra

16:58

50 billion in the bag, added to 50

17:01

billion from the IPO, $100 billion.

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That's all they need. And Tesla needs to

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focus on execution, execution,

17:06

execution. Elon has his comp plan, which

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gets him to where he wants to be. And

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spacebased data centers. Do not hold

17:13

your breath. 3 to 5 years out, my

17:15

friends. At the earliest. At the

17:18

earliest. and I'll bet my bottom dollar

17:20

on that. Hope you enjoyed the show. Big

17:23

thank you, Shauny, Cipher, Sniper, TND,

17:26

K8, and everybody else. And I'm sorry,

17:29

but the markets suck,

17:31

but you know, I've been saying it's

17:35

going to be a horrible early 2026 for a

17:38

long time now. Zeno, GQ Trader, Steo,

17:40

Cybertruck, Crypto, Tesla, and Buckhorn

17:44

as Tesla shareholders. We do not want a

17:46

conglomerate yet.

17:49

When Tesla gets to the stage where they

17:51

can ramp their silicone production and

17:54

Starship is cooked, getting stuff into

17:56

space for 100 kg or less, $100 per

17:59

kilogram or less, then we're good to go.

18:02

Then the synergy will create massive

18:06

free cash flow from both entities at the

18:08

same time. But now would be a bad time

18:11

for a marriage.

18:13

Hope you enjoy the show. See you

18:15

tomorrow. Bye.

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