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The TOP is In: Tesla's Stock is about to Collapse.

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Well, it's that time again to do a full

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analysis on what the heck is going on

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with Tesla stock because we are within

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$6 of all-time freaking highs on Tesla.

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And it is coming because of quote

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unquote leaked footage of a Tesla

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driving itself without someone in the

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car. At least from what we can tell. Uh,

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and this makes a lot of folks pretty

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dang excited because if we pull up robo

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taxi progress charts, the big thing

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pretty much on any of these charts that

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we see that circulate, there are a lot

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of different accounts that track this,

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you know, here's uh Jonathan who tracks

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this. A lot of different accounts that

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track this robo taxi progress. And

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what's important to remember is the

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overarching key out of all of these

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charts, the thing that everybody cares

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most about is not whether there are

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operator ads or whether there's a test

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program or whether it's geoenced or not

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or how many cars are deployed. Nobody

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really cares about any of this. The

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early applications for taxi service or

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whatever. What people care all and

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solely about is this no safety monitor

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because we Americans and even

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international folks, we don't want to

1:21

drive anymore. We want to sit in our car

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and if it's a Tesla, you already know

1:26

the feeling. Elon Musk just made it so

1:28

you don't you can now text and drive and

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FSD will actually work in the latest

1:32

update. Kind of incredible. Not

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recommending it, just saying. kind of

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incredible, especially since people kind

1:38

of do it anyway and then they have to

1:39

like disengage autopilot and they start

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driving with their knee. You know,

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Elon's lamented about that before. Like

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it'd be safer if people are going to

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text and drive to text and drive with

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autopilot on rather than off. So, you

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know, if that's safer, do we save lives

1:52

by just leaving autopilot on? Probably.

1:55

Of course, the extreme answer is, well,

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nobody should be texting and driving,

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but let's be real, like pretty much

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everybody does. So, uh, doesn't make it

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okay, but it is what it is. So anyway,

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obviously the big next step is can we

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get to the no safety monitor stage? And

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what's gotten a lot of people really

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excited right now is this particular

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video right here, which uh says, "Just

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saw a Tesla with no one in the car."

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And this got a lot of people very, very

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excited. Now, there are some asterisks

2:26

in this. First of all, this video

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happens to be posted by an account that

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literally has no history. Now, maybe

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they just ripped it off of Reddit or

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whatever, but they're implying that they

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saw this vehicle. And it happens to be

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followed by Omar. We're not sure when he

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followed uh uh you know this account,

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but the point is not only is it posted

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by somebody with no account history, you

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could clearly see there's a Cyber Truck

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right here with somebody sitting in the

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backseat of the Cybert truck, you know,

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ready to video this. I'm not saying this

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is necessarily rigged by Tesla where,

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you know, you happen to have a follow

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car right behind it, probably with a

3:07

kill switch and a Cybert truck right

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next to it to videotape it. candidly.

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Uh, who knows? Some people say this is

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rigged. Either way, the car is driving

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itself. In fairness, there's nobody

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there and the car is driving itself. So,

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like, you know, how rigged can it be? It

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obviously is. Now, is it possible if the

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weather was ideal and that, hey, you

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know, maybe these were perfect

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conditions where they got out of the

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car, took the safety monitor out, and

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did this small test of a segment. Either

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way, even that would be great. Even if

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these are all Tesla employees and the

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Tesla accounts including their chief

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autopilot engineers and Elon Musk and

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the at Tesla account are all retweeting

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this message. Oh wow, look a driverless

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car. Who could have ever seen that? It

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is a sign of progress, right? You

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removed a monitor and there is progress

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here. Now how does this affect the

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valuation for the company, right?

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Because obviously the valuation is what

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everybody has a question about,

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especially since we really want to see

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the stock price keep moving here. I

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mean, after all, we did see Ross Gerber

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here, right on X, got the new Tesla FSD

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update and within 2 minutes of driving

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into the sun this, and it's the takeover

4:19

error. And then he says, "These cars

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can't drive into the sun." To which, of

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course, I appropriately and quickly

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replied with, "We're not going to the

4:28

sun. We're going to the moon."

4:32

Anyway, let's talk about that valuation

4:34

because there's obviously with Tesla

4:36

always going to be jadedness on both

4:38

sides of the Tesla debate and we really

4:41

got to hit Tesla valuation. And I will

4:44

say I should probably also just to make

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sure this is a thorough recap of what's

4:49

going on with Tesla. I should probably

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also just briefly mention what Susie

4:53

Wilds apparently had to say about Elon

4:55

Musk. And um I I kind of think it's not

4:59

a surprise. It actually kind of is

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probably good because this is what we

5:03

think about Elon Musk anyway that he's,

5:06

you know, an excessively hard worker.

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But you're going to hear these comments,

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so I may as well address it and then

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we'll get to the fundamental valuations.

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So in Vanity Affair, apparently the

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Vanity Affair reporter has been talking

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to Susie Wilds for a while uh about

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various different people. She says that

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Trump is like an alcoholic, although you

5:26

know, supposedly he doesn't drink, just

5:28

that his personality gets really

5:29

enhanced like all the time. Uh, and you

5:32

know, she was upset about tariffs. She

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was upset about Pam Bondi's handling of

5:36

the Epstein files. But this was

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interesting to me. It was that Elon Musk

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is a complete solo actor. Well, we kind

5:46

of know that, you know, we we know that

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Elon is uh basically like, you know, if

5:53

anybody's going to get it done, it's

5:54

going to be him. Now, she goes on to say

5:56

that he's sort of like a jacked up

5:58

vampire, kind of implying that he

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doesn't sleep because he's on drugs all

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the time, which she does go on to

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literally say, "The challenge with Elon

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is keeping up with him." She told me

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he's an avowed ketamine user and he

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sleeps in a sleeping bag in the

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executive office building in the

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daytime. He is an odd odd duck. I think

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geniuses are, you know, it's not

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helpful, but he is his own person. She

6:22

bagged on him for how quickly he shut

6:24

down USAD. Uh she thought there was a

6:27

better approach than just going in and

6:28

firing everybody and locking people out

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of their offices, especially since

6:32

immunization programs being halted in

6:34

Africa would lead to the death of many

6:36

people in Africa. Which of course then

6:38

you get people on the other side of

6:39

they're like, "Why are we immunizing

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people in Africa?" And the people on the

6:42

other side say, "Because that's called

6:44

diplomacy, so we could put the US label

6:46

on it so hopefully we breed fewer

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terrorists in the world." You can make

6:51

arguments in many different sides, but

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this is a freaking Tesla video. Okay, so

6:54

anyway, Elon's attitude is you have to

6:56

get it done fast. If you're an

6:58

incrementalist, you just won't get the

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rocket to the moon. And so with that

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attitude, you're going to break some

7:04

China. But no rational person could

7:06

think the US ID process was was a good

7:08

one. So Susie kind of has some not great

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things to say here about Elon. It's kind

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of like not great, not terrible. Kind of

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like the economy right now. Like not

7:16

great, not terrible yet. Hopefully we

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kind of keep staying up. Uh and and I

7:20

don't really love where Axios is going

7:22

because I do think this creates some

7:23

risks in 2026 that if Elon Musk is going

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to get back into politics, I get nervous

7:29

because we've had some really negative

7:31

price action uh in Tesla. The last time

7:34

Elon got into politics. Remember pre uh

7:37

liberation, Elon got into politics and

7:40

what did it do for the stock. It's like

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when Elon's not involved in politics,

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this stuff goes to the freaking moon. I

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mean 480. This is freaking awesome. Uh

7:48

but you know what happens if we go over

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here to oh Elon's going to get into

7:53

politics like after the first one month

7:56

rally of us hitting all-time highs when

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he actually got into starting working at

8:01

Doge. This crap went all the way down to

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$218,

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man. That's like a more than 50%

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decline. I mean, gorgeous breakout over

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here off of $347 on robo taxi progress

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is why we had this breakout over here.

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Really awesome breakout. Now, we're in

8:18

no man's land on a technical basis. We

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have all-time highs to cover. Uh, and

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that's it. Uh, you know, with which

8:24

we're within, you know, now 10 bucks of

8:26

during the recording of this. But that

8:28

said, you know, seeing Elon potentially

8:30

get back into politics, I'm not really

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happy about this, right? Like Elon Musk

8:35

has begun funding the GOP's House and

8:37

Senate campaigns for the 2026 midterms.

8:40

He just can't stay away. Uh Musk, who

8:43

threatened to launch a third party and

8:44

support challengers to Republican

8:46

incumbents during his dispute with

8:47

Trump, is now firmly back on the GOP's

8:50

plan. basically to maybe try to get back

8:52

in the favor of of Donald Trump, he's

8:54

got to now spend more money to uh uh to

8:58

to pro prop up the Republican party. Uh

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so I don't love hearing that. You know,

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at the same time as obviously I don't

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love hearing that people are walking

9:08

away from electric vehicles and I get it

9:11

like you know I think the first people

9:14

who bought electric vehicles, myself

9:16

included, uh were were kind of the easy

9:18

wins. You know, I bought first time I

9:20

bought an electric vehicle was back in

9:22

uh in 2017 all electric and I had a

9:24

hybrid before that. You know, the Prius.

9:26

Uh y'all have Okay, I shouldn't say it.

9:29

I shouldn't do the dad jokes, but

9:30

anyway, uh you know, the Tesla's right

9:33

now announcing that they want to move

9:35

battery production to Germany. I'm

9:37

literally getting this across the tape

9:38

right now, creating conditions at

9:39

Gigafactory Berlin Bradenbird to produce

9:42

up to 8 gawatts of battery cells per

9:44

year starting in 27. Uh uh this is the

9:47

end. To this end, we are investing

9:49

another threedigit

9:51

million amount in battery cell

9:54

production. That's a weird way to put

9:55

it. So many hundreds of millions of

9:57

dollars going to battery cell production

9:59

in Germany. Okay, that's fine. So like

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you know what what like where do we

10:05

stand with politics being a negative now

10:08

for Tesla? Where do we stand with the

10:10

valuation of this company? And you know,

10:13

really, is it reasonable that people are

10:16

walking away from electric vehicles? I

10:18

mean, you've got the European Commission

10:20

pulling back on their 2035 targets to

10:22

phase out ICE vehicles. Now, we're

10:24

extending those, basically allowing

10:26

people to, you know, focus on hybrids

10:28

longer term. Ford is going into hybrids.

10:30

Remember, the last executive at Toyota,

10:33

Mr. Toyota,

10:36

got booted out of Toyota because he said

10:40

hybrids were the future. and everybody

10:43

laughed at him during the Tesla boom and

10:45

they're like, "Yeah, right, bro. You

10:46

guys are just pissed. You're so behind

10:48

at Toyota." Now, Toyota has a very

10:50

reliable car. It's a fantastic vehicle.

10:54

Like, if I had to buy a car, you know,

10:56

if if there was no FSD. If I had to buy

10:58

a car, I would buy a Toyota all day

11:00

long. Uh, you know, assuming I didn't

11:02

need like the practicality of like a

11:04

sprinter van or something, you know,

11:05

which which I also had to buy. Uh, but

11:07

then again, I got a lot of children. I

11:08

seven children. But anyway, like there

11:11

are maintenance issues that create some

11:14

problems at Teslas. You know, I wrapped

11:15

my Cybert truck. I love my Cybert truck.

11:17

I wrapped it and we take it into service

11:20

and they're like, "Oh, we need to take

11:22

these panels off because they're

11:23

recalled." And we're like, "Yo, what the

11:26

hell? We don't want these panels off

11:28

because if we take the panels off, then

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we're going to have to go take these

11:31

back to LA to get them wrapped uh by uh

11:35

you know, by by the rap company just for

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that stupid part." It's like just leave

11:39

it on and they're like, "Oh, well, it's

11:40

going to fall off. You know, it's a

11:42

recall piece." It's like this is a pain

11:44

in the ass. You know, those are the

11:46

somewhat the quality things that

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unfortunately, you know, people do

11:49

lament about and and they are legitimate

11:51

issues that we're kind of concerned

11:53

about when it comes to uh Teslas. Now,

11:56

uh Toyota is going to have its own

11:58

problems, too, but maybe not as many.

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like something that's been really

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driving me nuts lately and eventually

12:03

I'll get it taken care of. But my Tesla,

12:06

the back trunk leaks when it rains. And

12:08

it turns out that when they installed I

12:10

I filmed this on my glasses, so the

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footage isn't that great. I've got a

12:14

rack on the back, you know, like the

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cyber rack or whatever. It's fully

12:17

wrapped. It took forever to install

12:19

this. The Pelican case on the top. See

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that right there? That's a whole seal

12:23

section that's missing at the back of

12:25

the tunnel cover. So, when it rains, it

12:28

just rains right into there, which is

12:30

really annoying because I had a it was a

12:32

little bit of a mess, but I had a bunch

12:33

of junk back here uh in the trunk and uh

12:38

you know, I was I was looking at some of

12:39

the stuff that I had back here and I

12:41

just had some miscellaneous Lowe's bags

12:43

and stuff. All of them were soaked. I

12:45

think when I picked up this right here,

12:46

look at this. You could actually see uh

12:48

let's just kill volume there for a

12:49

moment. You can see if I just sort of

12:51

poke it, my finger goes right through it

12:53

because it's all wet, you know? So, I

12:55

have spent a lot of time kind of

12:56

customizing this to where I have a lot

12:58

of practical real estate things like my

13:00

ladder is tied up on the right over

13:01

there. I keep things in the back here

13:03

like spare face plates and smoke

13:05

detectors and things just so when I go

13:07

to rental properties I can easily drop

13:09

them off because I always need like one

13:11

extra face plate or a Sharpie or blue

13:13

tape or whatever, right? And it's really

13:15

annoying. So, I always like to keep it

13:16

back there. But, it all got soaked cuz

13:18

it got rained on. So, you know, there

13:20

are some service complaints and and like

13:22

I'm not really happy with our local

13:23

service center. And then I promise I'm

13:24

going to get in the valuation. You know,

13:26

we bring the car to the service center.

13:27

They're like, "You need to empty all the

13:28

trunk." So, we drive it back, round trip

13:31

for an hour, empty the truck, go back,

13:33

and then they're like, "You actually

13:34

need to remove the whole rack." And

13:36

we're like, "What's your freaking

13:38

problem? We just U-turned for an hour

13:40

for you to tell us that." Like, get your

13:42

act together. And so now, you know, it's

13:44

going to take eight man hours to

13:46

uninstall the whole rack just to fix

13:48

their dumbass problem. But whatever, it

13:50

is what it is, right? Those are just I

13:51

think the things where people get

13:53

nervous about being those next adopters

13:55

of new products because the Cybertruck's

13:57

obviously a newer car. Although I will

13:59

say when I got the Model X in 2017, it

14:01

also leaked and it was also missing a

14:04

water seal. So maybe shame on me, right?

14:08

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me

14:10

twice, shame on me. I actually made a

14:13

video back in 2017 of my Tesla leaking

14:16

cuz they forgot the rain seal. It's

14:19

crazy. like full circle, right? But

14:21

anyway, all that aside, let's actually

14:23

talk about the fundamentals

14:26

of this. Somebody says, "Kevin, just

14:28

park it in the garage." Okay, I don't

14:30

have a driveway, okay? Like I I I don't

14:34

blow money on houses other than

14:37

investments. I spend more money on

14:39

rental properties. Well, House Act does

14:41

at this point, you know, that's not me.

14:42

Uh but uh we spend collectively more

14:45

money on rental properties than we do uh

14:47

uh certainly on ourselves or anything,

14:49

right? And that's how it should be.

14:50

We're big fans of investing and buying

14:52

the dip. We like fixed upers. We're

14:54

ending our fund raise for house hack at

14:56

the end of the month. But anyway, let's

14:58

actually get fundies here on Tesla. So

15:00

when we go into the fundamentals of

15:02

Tesla, at least we have fundamentals,

15:04

unlike this 21 Capital scam. I don't

15:06

even know why I still have this up.

15:08

Let's close this down cuz that's a real

15:10

scam. But let's focus about on Tesla

15:12

here. So, first what I'd like to do is

15:14

I'd like to analyze the margins going

15:16

back to their second uh to last earnings

15:18

report. And we're doing that because we

15:20

didn't get the $7,500 boost of

15:23

expirations, right? And there's some

15:25

really important takeaways when we look

15:27

at the fundamentals here. So, first,

15:29

we're eventually going to lose all of

15:32

these automotive regulatory tax credits.

15:33

We know that we have gross profits of

15:35

about 14% on vehicles less regulatory

15:38

credits. That's actually not bad. like

15:40

we are contributing to gross profit by

15:43

selling cars. I make the argument that

15:45

this company is a $500 million car

15:49

company. Uh sorry, $500 billion. I did

15:52

it again. $500 billion car company and a

15:55

$1 trillion startup. And you'll see why

15:58

in just a moment. But overall, your

16:00

pricing power was actually relatively

16:02

stable going into Q2 on a gross profit

16:05

level. And vehicle gross profit was

16:07

relatively stable. Uh, and that's

16:10

excluding the automotive regulatory

16:12

credits, which is great because then

16:13

when we went into Q3, we we also got a

16:16

nice pump because automotive sales were

16:18

able to skyrocket

16:20

because of that expiration of the $7,500

16:23

pump, right? Which is great. Gross

16:25

margin for autos actually increased

16:27

slightly uh into the third quarter from

16:29

the second quarter, which is fantastic.

16:31

It's still doing it over here. Uh and if

16:34

we look at January, and these are sort

16:36

of like some of the headwinds we have,

16:38

we have to know that we are going to go

16:40

into a period of time with fewer tax

16:42

credits, a potential $170 million crypto

16:46

hit. That's why we were searching for

16:47

crypto is because we have about $720

16:50

million of Bitcoin as of September 30th.

16:52

But Bitcoin was trading for about 140 or

16:56

$14,000 per coin then. Now we're sitting

16:58

at 87587ish.

17:01

That's a loss of about $170 million. So,

17:04

we're going to see a decline from fewer

17:06

credits, so likely lower sales, a crypto

17:10

hit, and likely lower cash flow. Now, I

17:15

don't actually think it's possible for

17:16

our gross profit to go negative. Some

17:19

people like the Mly Fool did an argument

17:22

about how I, you know, they said

17:23

something about sales going negative and

17:25

like gross profit whatever. I don't

17:26

think it's possible for gross profit to

17:28

go negative because frankly if you look

17:30

at the gross profit on vehicles we're

17:32

actually only contributing about $3

17:34

billion of gross profit uh or about $3

17:38

billion of that five is coming from car

17:40

sales which means even if car sales went

17:42

to zero they would still be gross

17:45

profitable. So there's really no chance

17:47

of them going negative on a gross profit

17:49

side. But yeah, dude, their net income

17:52

is going to get hit if their net income

17:55

uh falls uh you know by 500 mil.

17:58

Wouldn't be a surprise to me. You know,

18:00

if we get a decline of about 1/3 20% to

18:04

about 1/3 somewhere between -20 to - 33%

18:07

in car sales. The worst thing that's

18:10

really going to happen here is we're

18:11

going to see free cash flow go negative.

18:14

And free cash flow is important to look

18:16

at. So the last free cash flow report

18:19

was great because we had the expiring

18:20

tax credit. We had like $4 billion of

18:23

free cash flow. Phenomenal. That was

18:25

over a 9-month period. If you divide

18:27

that out, works out to about 1.3 per

18:29

quarter. Even if you said that was all

18:31

because of that one quarter, we really

18:33

have to cast that out as an anomaly

18:35

because of the expiring tax credits and

18:36

the rush to buy Teslas. So that's why I

18:39

have the 2Q report here, the second

18:41

quarter report here. And if we look at

18:43

free cash flow, uh, and you subtract out

18:46

the tax credits, you're really only

18:48

sitting at about $400 million of free

18:51

cash flow per quarter at Tesla. Now, out

18:54

of MAG 7s, it's kind of crap. But that

18:57

makes sense cuz they're a manufacturer.

18:59

They're building, you know, some people

19:01

call them the the world's vending

19:04

machine, right? So Google has free cash

19:07

flow in one quarter of 18 billion.

19:10

Nvidia 21.3 billion, Apple 24.7 billion.

19:15

Even if Tesla kept 4 billion, they would

19:18

still be the stepchild of free cash flow

19:21

in the MAX 7. So free cash flow lags

19:24

substantially at Tesla. This means we're

19:26

not really driving Tesla's valuation on

19:29

the basis of cash flow. And that should

19:31

be obvious at this point because if you

19:33

look at a PEG or price toearnings growth

19:35

ratio at this company, of course, we're

19:38

not valuing Tesla based on their old

19:40

numbers. And these are based on forward

19:42

earnings, by the way, for the end of the

19:43

year. And then looking at about a 42%

19:46

growth rate for Tesla on EPS over the

19:48

next four years, you're looking at a PEG

19:50

ratio for Tesla of 6.7

19:53

6 bullish moon. [laughter] Anyway, it's

19:57

really high on a price toearnings growth

19:59

basis. Now Nvidia's price to earnings

20:02

growth basis is 1.5 and Google's is 2.2.

20:06

And so if you actually look at this as

20:08

on like a price to earnings growth

20:10

basis, this suggests that Nvidia has 71%

20:13

upside. Google has 18.6% upside and

20:17

Tesla as a manufacturer actually has

20:20

75.4% 4% downside

20:24

and 60% downside if you value them as a

20:27

service provider rather than a

20:29

manufacturer. See the upsides here I

20:32

calculated at a peg of 267.

20:34

Manufacturers I calculate at 167. That's

20:37

where I get my math from. Right? These

20:38

are the we break this down every day in

20:40

the course member live streams uh in our

20:43

um alpha report. If you're not part of

20:44

that yet, make sure you join atmeke.com.

20:47

It's where I upload these financials as

20:49

well, so you can uh get the sort of

20:50

history of them. But, uh, obviously, you

20:54

know, Tesla's not going to be valued off

20:55

free cash flow. Tesla's not going to be

20:57

valued off their PEG ratio, and they're

21:00

certainly not going to be valued off of

21:01

their net income margin. Tesla has a net

21:04

income margin in the second quarter of

21:06

5.29%.

21:08

That actually worsened in the third

21:11

quarter. We got to a net income margin

21:12

of just 4.9%. That means only $5 out of

21:16

every $100 they make is actually going

21:20

to net income.

21:24

Unfortunately,

21:25

Nvidia as a comparison has 55 cents out

21:29

of every dollar coming to the bottom

21:30

line and Google has 29 cents coming to

21:32

the bottom line out of every dollar. Uh

21:34

Apple's somewhere in the high 20s.

21:36

Microsoft is in the 30s. You know, these

21:38

companies are bringing a whole lot more

21:40

on the mag 7 basis in Netflix is another

21:42

one. They bring a whole lot more to the

21:44

bottom line in terms of free cash flow

21:46

and EPS. So why the hell is Tesla at

21:49

all-time highs? Well, it's because this

21:52

is a trillion dollar startup. That's

21:55

what you have to understand. This is the

21:58

pump factory. I'm not saying it's bad.

22:00

We're just saying it is what it is.

22:02

Okay. So Tesla's pump factory. Let's

22:04

understand this. This is the pump

22:06

factory. So suggesting that Tesla

22:08

shareholders could get early access to

22:10

the IPO for SpaceX. I made a video, you

22:13

can check it out. It is uh just type

22:15

into YouTube meet Kevin SpaceX 10X or

22:17

whatever. Uh and you'll see the video.

22:20

Uh in it I talk about how my venture

22:22

capital company has invested in SpaceX.

22:24

You know, we're probably a three or 4x

22:26

on that investment. We've also invested

22:28

in Aptronic, which was a robotics

22:31

startup that was about to go bankrupt.

22:33

Uh and now they've like four to 5xed

22:37

also, which knock on wood is great. uh

22:40

and they're doing really really well

22:41

right now. But if you look at those,

22:43

those are both private startups.

22:45

Tesla is basically a public startup. You

22:49

don't have to know a banker at Morgan

22:51

Stanley to get access to these. You

22:53

don't have to uh fly on your plane to

22:57

visit Appronic and sit down with the CEO

22:59

of the company and basically go, you

23:02

know, if you guys don't get this money,

23:04

you guys are effed and how can we help

23:06

you, right? like that's what I did as

23:08

well as a venture capital person. I sat

23:11

down with the company's executives and

23:14

decided to make the investment, right?

23:17

Uh so like with Tesla, you don't have to

23:20

do that stuff. You don't have to hop on

23:22

a plane and do those things. You just

23:24

swipe up on Robin Hood and what do you

23:26

get? Well, you get potentially this idea

23:30

of early access to SpaceX. you get uh

23:34

this uh um you know no driver enthusiasm

23:39

for robo taxis and maybe the cyber cab,

23:42

you know, the spotting. I think it's a

23:43

little bit of a stock pump. Okay, we

23:45

know bad news is coming. Elon getting

23:47

back into politics, the valuation is at

23:49

all-time highs. The stock is at all-time

23:50

highs and the numbers aren't that great.

23:53

The free cash flows, the net income,

23:54

none of those things are that great. You

23:56

know what is nice is they do have cash.

23:58

I will give them credit for that. We've

24:00

got free cash of $18.7 billion. Don't be

24:03

confused or misled by people going,

24:05

"Kevin, you have 40 billion in cash, but

24:07

you got to take off the bills." Okay? If

24:09

you have $100 of bills and $120 on your

24:12

desk, you really only have $20 of free

24:15

cash, right? Tesla's got about two to

24:18

three years of free cash, even if they

24:20

started losing money on free cash flow.

24:22

So, I don't think that them going

24:23

negative free cash flow is that bad. I

24:26

do think the loss of the $7,500 tax

24:28

credit, the 0% APR financing they're

24:30

doing on the new Tesla at 399, which I

24:32

think is overpriced. It should be lower

24:34

than that. Uh I do think that the

24:37

Bitcoin loss that they're going to

24:38

suffer uh will will show up in EPS.

24:41

They're going to take that loss. Uh in

24:43

their margins are probably going to

24:44

compress on autos, right? Like all those

24:46

things are negative tailwinds, but

24:48

that's the $500 billion part of the

24:50

business. The trillion dollar part of

24:52

the business that people want is the

24:54

Optimus robot and the potential that

24:57

this could be a robo taxi company.

25:00

That's what people want. People don't

25:02

want to hear anymore about, you know,

25:05

how Whimo is winning because they have

25:07

LAR sensors and they cost way more. This

25:09

is old news. We already know about this.

25:11

Rivian tried to slam Tesla. Did you hear

25:15

the slam? I mean, let's let's look.

25:17

Rivian pump, by the way, at least

25:20

somewhat on this. I mean, the stock has

25:21

sucked, right? Tesla's at all-time

25:24

freaking highs. Rivian is basically at

25:26

all-time freaking lows. Not quite.

25:28

Alltime lows were $8 or $17, but they

25:30

were once at $180. I remember shorting

25:33

them over here. Uh, we talked about that

25:35

in our course last, too. But anyway,

25:36

they had this big pump because they have

25:38

this autonomy day and they're basically

25:40

full U-turning the pump. Now, what did

25:42

they say in the pump? Well, what they

25:44

said during their autonomy pump was

25:47

lidar, baby. Here it is. Oh, sorry. I

25:51

meant to expand this for Sorry. This is

25:53

like our whole reinvest course. This

25:55

isn't even all the videos. I did a whole

25:56

new course in the Me Kevin membership

25:58

for all the course members who were in

25:59

there. It's like 4 hours or whatever.

26:02

Um, but anyway, I I saved this clip from

26:04

Rivian. So, let's play this portion of

26:06

their um their autonomy day here. And uh

26:10

this is the part where they get applause

26:12

and the stock pumps a little bit, but

26:14

any Tesla investor is just going to roll

26:16

their eyes over this. But let's listen

26:18

to what they say and how they try to

26:20

slam Tesla indirectly, kind of directly.

26:24

>> The LAR,

26:27

[applause]

26:28

>> are your eyes rolling yet?

26:31

>> Told you your eyes would roll. The LAR

26:33

is an optical sensor, but its strength

26:36

comes from the fact that unlike the

26:37

camera, the LAR has an active light

26:40

source, enabling it to see it much

26:42

better in the dark. Another advantage of

26:44

the LAR is that it can provide a

26:47

three-dimensional view of the world,

26:48

unlike cameras, which we know provide a

26:51

two-dimensional view, requiring the AI

26:53

models to infer the depth, which they

26:55

do, but with a lot less accuracy.

26:58

>> Okay, so there's a point to this. The

27:00

point to this is Ross Gerber's problem

27:04

is could potentially have been solved by

27:08

LAR. You know, people bag on on Ross a

27:12

lot when it comes to Tesla, but I think

27:14

he actually makes valid points. The fact

27:17

that his windshield was dirty, in my

27:19

opinion, didn't really have anything to

27:22

do with the fact that the car, uh, which

27:26

has forward- facing cameras and side

27:28

cameras, has trouble seeing in certain

27:31

light environments. The lady's probably

27:34

right. The inferences that you have to

27:36

make with a camera are going to be less

27:38

accurate. We know this. Nobody really

27:41

cares who's investing at Tesla, though.

27:43

you know, nobody really cares about this

27:44

or the windshield dirty this that or

27:46

whatever, you know, and obviously we

27:48

could joke about we're going to the moon

27:49

or not the sun, but Rivian's probably

27:52

right. You could probably get better

27:54

accuracy with the lighter, but the

27:56

question is, do we need that better

27:58

accuracy? And that's that's the bears

28:01

versus the bull debate on Tesla. Tesla

28:03

bulls say we don't need it. We have

28:05

enough accuracy. The car can drive

28:07

itself without LAR. And then of course

28:09

you have uh the the uh flip side that

28:12

says why don't you just use Nvidia's

28:14

neural nets for autonomy. Well maybe

28:16

because Tesla has way more data but why

28:18

not just use Nvidia's neural nets which

28:20

can then you know put all of this

28:22

information together. And I will say I

28:25

can somewhat corroborate which I just um

28:28

caught up a few days ago. I don't know

28:30

if like better sensor data would have

28:33

fixed this but this was a little oopsy

28:35

dupsy that I had to take over on. I

28:37

mean, not the end of the world. Stuff

28:38

like this happens, but this is the kind

28:40

of stuff that really needs to stop

28:41

happening for us to go uh, you know,

28:44

fully autonomous comfortably. This is

28:47

version 14 on the Tesla Cybertruck from

28:51

uh, Sunday, December 14th. So, that

28:54

would be 2 days ago. So, um, this was

28:57

the forward- facing shot of my Cybert

29:00

truck.

29:01

And I'm on autopilot. And you'll see

29:05

right here this lane is going to come to

29:08

an end. So you can clearly very clearly

29:12

see uh the arrow right here and I have

29:16

to take over. So once we you know start

29:18

going to the left I end up taking over

29:21

uh cuz I'm like this is lame. But

29:22

anyway, I'm on autopilot to go you know

29:26

follow basically this blue car because I

29:27

don't want to drive into this

29:28

neighborhood. I want to go home. Uh, and

29:31

uh, the car kind of totally misses. Two

29:34

arrows, three arrows, and then it

29:38

decides to jump over into the right lane

29:40

over here, which is a right turn only

29:42

lane, even though the nav is set to go

29:45

straight, right? So, like, you know,

29:47

would other sensors help this? Is this

29:49

just more training? I don't know. It

29:51

never used to do stuff like this. So,

29:53

and I think that's one of the

29:54

frustrations that some of us see with

29:56

FSD is that we're kind of sometimes it

29:59

feels like going two steps forward, one

30:01

step back. And it's kind of like, all

30:03

right, when are we going to be done with

30:04

the one steps back? Like, this is kind

30:06

of getting exhausting. Like, I don't

30:07

want to go one step anymore back. I just

30:09

I just want to go forward.

30:12

But, you know, I think we're making

30:14

decent progress. And the more of this

30:16

progress we make, the closer we can get

30:18

to, well, frankly, having fully

30:21

self-driving cars. Are we there yet

30:23

outside of kind of like a rigged demo?

30:25

Probably not. You know, we probably

30:28

still have some work to do with that.

30:30

Uh, is there always going to be a

30:31

complaint amongst uh, you know, the

30:34

service uh, for Here, I'll show you my

30:37

Tesla uh, and and some of my my rigging

30:40

around it. Is there always going to be a

30:42

complaint about service? Honestly, yes.

30:43

You're going to have that kind of

30:44

complaint for any manufacturer, whether

30:46

it's a Lucid or Riven. Like, you're

30:48

always going to have manufacturer

30:50

issues. Uh it's just the question is

30:52

what what is the incidence of issues you

30:55

know the leaking car and the service

30:57

around that frustrating because look at

30:59

the car right so this is my cybert truck

31:02

I put a lot of energy and time uh into

31:04

this this rack is very frustrating

31:07

because it's so tight to the glass right

31:09

here that you worry about breaking the

31:10

glass. It's very hard to uninstall this

31:13

and reinstall this. The I got the uh uh

31:16

Starlink installed right here. It's

31:18

fully wrapped. They're telling me this

31:20

is the panel that needs to be removed

31:22

and it's going to destroy the wrap

31:24

because that's recalled. Uh the back of

31:26

the car leaks, the tunnel cover. I'm

31:28

like this is, you know, those are just

31:30

the frustrations of buying a, you know,

31:32

December 2024 Cybert truck. So, I asked

31:35

Gemini to solve the problem for me. This

31:39

is how Gemini solved the problem of my

31:41

leaking trunk.

31:45

>> [sighs]

31:45

>> So, I guess with that said, that's my

31:48

full breakdown of what's going on with

31:50

Tesla. The valuation is a big fat risk

31:52

factor. We know that uh we know that

31:54

Elon getting back into politics is a

31:56

risk factor. We know crypto is going to

31:57

be a negative EPS. Wall Street is

31:59

guiding for positive EPS uh next, you

32:02

know, this quarter. They're looking for

32:04

1.584

32:06

billion of net income on the adjusted

32:07

basis. Uh and so, you know, there's

32:10

there's just some, you know, something

32:12

to be desired on those numbers. I think

32:14

uh I think we might have a miss on those

32:16

earnings. Uh and it would be reasonable.

32:18

I think most long-term investors would

32:20

anticipate that. Uh I guess I would say

32:22

like if I wanted more exposure to Tesla,

32:25

I I would certainly wait for a dip to

32:27

buy more than sort of hop on the

32:28

bandwagon, especially with some of the

32:30

larger issues that we have in the space

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of private credit or otherwise. Uh but u

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with all that said, hey, you know, if

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