The Great Reset is Coming | Recession Date SET.
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That's when the Federal Reserve comes
in. There is so much to talk about.
Let's catch up on everything from not
just what's going on with GDP estimates
right now, but also I really want to
show you what's going on with Apollo's
piece if you haven't seen it yet on
recession estimates when we think a
recession will begin. They've got a
great piece on this. We'll go through
that. Uh but first, let me catch you up
on some of the news this morning. UPS
laying off over 20,000 workers as
they're closing down lease spaces as
well, mostly in response to reduced
package volume from Amazon. It's unclear
if that's really going to get picked up
by Amazon workers as, you know, because
of the tariff drama, we might actually
be seeing a net reduction in package
volume. Anyway, this comes at the same
time as the job openings data that came
in this morning came in lower than
expected. Just about 7.2 million job
openings versus the 7.5 expected. So, a
loss of about 300 mil there, although
some weird volatility in terms of the
layoffs and quits levels, which I argue
roughly wash each other out, but only
really a softening, if you will. We
haven't really gotten the big wam yet in
Jolt's data suggesting, hey, we're in
recession. Now, some other data, and
certainly sentiment is going to disagree
with that, but we've also got to be
careful with when this data is coming
from. See, for example, this morning we
got the US confidence report. The
problem though with this confidence
report showing that future expectations
are at a 13-year low going back to
October of 2011, which is like 13 and a
half years ago. This data was finished
being collected. So, they finished their
collection of sort of the survey data on
April 21st. and write in responses
indicated the stock market was having a
really large negative impact on people's
responses to surveys. And if you look at
what the stock market did, it actually
bottomed not only once here right as
tariffs went into effect just a couple
days before that on April 7th, but the
second bottom you had was April 21st. So
you were really trading between two
bottoms when the survey was being
conducted and you did not yet have these
sort of six days of recovery over here.
In fact, one thing that we've been
talking about in addition to HIMS this
morning uh and and yesterday in the uh
course member liveream is first of all
this morning before the market opened I
sent out an alpha report and suggested
HIMS is probably going to get faded. And
that's not because I'm anti-HIMS, but
because most retail investors in HIMS
probably don't understand that a $499
subscription to Wiggoi and this new
partnership where there's a lot of
competition at that price level compared
to the $199 HIMS was offering before
isn't that great of a deal. TBD exactly
how HIMS ends up implementing it, but it
was a fade trade that could have been
played this morning and we were talking
about it before the market open. Now,
I'm mentioning it here because I also
want to mention for the next uh two
days, give me a 10-second pitch here.
Next two days, we're going to do a flash
sale on the Meet Kevin membership. And
the pricing will be going up on May 1st.
So, if you lock in that pricing you see
now, you'll lock in that membership
pricing forever over at meet.com. You'll
get these alpha reports in the morning,
the trade perspectives, the trade ideas.
You'll meet me every morning in the
course member liveream when the market's
opening. uh and we'll get to discuss
these strategies as well as conduct
analysis like we did this morning on
SoFi as well breaking down hm what's
actually going on with that lending
platform and why are we spending so much
more money at SoFi there a lot of nuance
that you really get out of these
earnings but that said what we really
want to watch for is is there a
potential for markets to sort of fomo
continue this sort of FOMO up and this
recovery from the tariff warfare uh
there's a lot of opium around. Oh, well,
you know, little updates are being made
to tariff policy, such as auto tariff
policy. Now, car companies might be able
to get about 3.75% back on auto
production in the United States, uh,
which I calculated for Tesla might boost
their margins by about 2% if you assume
about a 40% US-made content in the
United States. If you assume more,
obviously, you could get even more
margin. The problem
is that's going to get offset by tariffs
on the other non US-made parts. So, it's
still unclear how beneficial Trump's,
you know, sort of loosening of auto
tariffs, as they call it, the destacking
of auto tariffs are going to be where,
you know, once you pay the 25% on the
main autoimp imports, we'll exempt you
from steel and aluminum tariffs and
we'll give you a little bit of a rebate
this year and next year. Great. But like
an analogy I've made in the past, there
are these little updates we're getting
to tariff policy that make it seem like
tariff policy is getting better rather
than worse. But it's kind of like you
broke a bunch of bones in your body and
you're in the emergency room and your
doctor's coming in and is saying, "Good
news, the scratches on your knuckles are
healing." What good does that really do
you when you're still in a critical
condition? And that I think is where
Apollo is coming from. Uh, mind you,
there's also some tariff news this
morning on Amazon potentially listing
tariff prices on their website. This has
to do with Amazon Hall, which which is
basically the Teeu version of Amazon.
Uh, Amazon's clarified this. They don't
plan to put tariff prices on their main
Amazon.com website. A little bit of
clarity there that uh is useful to have.
But anyway, you know, this this idea
about being a patient on a surgical
table and being excited about these
small little healings while at the same
time we have blank sailings uh layoffs
and substantial confidence issues that
will all likely translate into bad hard
data uh like you know even even in the
Atlanta Fed real GDP estimates which
we'll pull up in just a moment
here. The bad news is still coming.
Could we get a FOMO rally between now
and when that bad news comes? Yeah. And
I actually advocate for potentially if
you're trying to diversify away from the
stock market. Maybe you use trailing
stops and you say, "Look, I'm willing to
lose, you know, 5% or 10% or whatever,
uh, as a bet to try to get some upside
in the short term, but then I want to
diversify a bit." And then maybe you
take that money and throw it into House
Hack, you know, get your 5% annual yield
until you convert and you get all the
upside in the stock value. obviously
read all the details over at
houseack.com uh my real estate company
uh which which is doing really well.
We're really excited with where we are
right now. Uh just broke ground on some
more ADUs. Can't wait to show you some
some updates on that. Uh but what you
find is we could continue this trend
right here maybe up to 494, right? Which
are the levels where we were at the end
of March. I don't know though that we
really blast off past that because by
the time we get to these levels
especially if we move slowly we might be
in a recessionary environment and I
think that's where Apollo and the
Atlanta Fed real GDP numbers are useful
to look at. This morning we got new
Atlanta Fed real GDP numbers. Now you
could actually see the gold adjusted
level which I think is the most
important level to look at. I generally
don't look at this headline 2.7%. I look
at the adjusted for imports and exports
of gold. This down worse than where we
were in the last two weeks. 2 weeks ago
we were at
negative.1%. So just.1% negative. So
basically not almost not recessionary,
right? That declined
to.7% and then this morning to negative
1.5%. The reason by the way it crashed
this morning is because we revised a lot
of the inventory buildup away to lower
than expected and our trade deficit is
actually now worse than previously
expected with some of the numbers we got
this morning. So really a lot of news
and a lot of data to hit this morning
but the Atlanta Fed has already updated
their formula for GDP now showing it at
negative 1.5% gold adjusted negative -2%
uh 2.7% not gold adjusted. So I think
this is where when you put together the
yeah like sure there's some little itty
bitty oh China's waving this or the US
is doing this great I mean it's not bad
news right but you still have a
critically ill patient and I think
that's where Apollo comes in and says
look Southwest says I don't care if you
call it a recession or not this industry
is in recession saving money because of
concerns around the economy was the
overwhelming reason consumers were
reducing frequency of restaurant visits
as Chipotle mentioned
Uh, by the way, this sort of aligns with
what the consumer conference board
mentioned this morning. We went through
this uh in detail as well this morning
in the meet Kevin membership. But if we
look at the consumer conference board
this morning, we have a restaurant
section right here. Consumers overall
intentions to purchase more services in
the months ahead were down with almost
all service categories affected. While
dining out remained the number one of
spending intentions, the share of
consumers planning to spend more on
dining out in the coming months ahead
registered one of the largest
month-on-month declines on record in
April. So, not great. But going back to
Apollo over here, Pepsi says we probably
aren't feeling good about the consumer
right now. And here is what they see in
terms of a timeline to recession. So
they think that we're not actually going
to stop seeing ships coming into ports
until early to miday. Then it's going to
take another 1 to 10 days for those
trucks and rails to slow down. And it's
not really until late May the trucking
demand comes to a halt. In my opinion,
you you actually potentially have this
this movement in the cues between now
and then up to, you know, 495. But
unfortunately, I think after that, we're
probably in for more hurt. And that
that's exactly why I suggest those, you
know, trailing stops as a consideration
and this sort of environment. Uh empty
store shelves and companies respond to
lower sales late May, early June. Uh
layoffs in trucking and retail industry,
not until June, folks. It takes a while
to get there. Uh and then in the summer
of 2025, that's when you hit recession,
mind you. Then we start getting the hard
data. June, July, and otherwise. That's
when the Federal Reserve comes in. And
the Federal Reserve swoops in after the
hard data comes in and goes, "Oh my
gosh, what have we done? We've acted too
late. We kept rates for too high for too
long because we were worried about
inflation." When the reality is now we
have deflation. Oh my gosh, cut. And
that's how we end up trending back
potentially to zero rates again. Isn't
that crazy? How firms are responding to
tariffs, rapid downward revisions, and
earnings expectations, capex plans
falling. Although this morning I still
saw some decent capex plans. So not all
companies are doing this earnings
revisions. You can see some of these
earnings revision numbers here. I'll
hide myself. These are some pretty
pretty gnarly revisions in terms of
declines on the charts. The charts just
don't look pretty right now.
Manufacturing surveys, new orders
falling off a cliff here. Corporate
capex really still somewhat holding up.
You're still positive over here. So you
really haven't gone into recessionary on
the right side yet. uh input prices
obviously up substantially, new orders
in contraction expecting to decline
further in April. ISM manufacturing
prices, inventories rising, actually
yeah, sorry, inventories rapidly before
tariffs took effect. This year is an
inventories chart uh rising to sort of
pre-tock, which really is another way of
suggesting that hey, we're pulling
forward uh some demand uh and now we're
going to work through inventories. Truck
sales down significantly in March. Well,
yeah, not a surprise that people would
invest in fewer trucks. CEO confidence
declining, logistics index declining,
China to US trade coming to a stop.
Right side over here, you've got uh some
more charts on China container freight
rates, blah blah blah. These are a lot
of charts just basically telling you,
hey, things aren't good right now.
Consumer sentiment declining across
income groups. Consumers very worried
about losing their jobs. record high
share of consumers think business
conditions are worsening. I mean, we
know a lot of the soft data isn't great.
Inflation
expectations. Uh consumers worried more
about their jobs. This is true. We saw
this in the uh consumer uh conference
board survey as well that people are
more concerned uh about uh here
consumers expecting fewer jobs in the
next six months, nearly as high as April
of 2009. So, I just think it's
interesting when you sort of combine uh
what you're seeing in data from multiple
different sources, you can really get a
good picture of what's going on uh in
the economy. And again, the the broad
question is how long-term damaging is a
lot of this going to be? And is the
medicine of uh you know fewer tariffs
basically going to be going to act
rapidly enough to help us recover? I
don't know. But I know that there's hope
and that's again why I suggest trailing
stops because I think you know 476 we
could break out of this and run to 494
or 490 you know this this mid490s range
here but uh but we'll probably have much
lower levels later this year if that
recession truly materializes will almost
certainly be a lot lower and that's why
I think it sets up for such an
opportunity to maybe trim uh as as we
get a little bit of sort of like a FOMO
rally mostly because you got a lot folks
who look at stocks especially like
Palanteer which benefits by the way off
government contracts and uh you know
sort of doing if you will but I mean
Palanteer is almost at all-time highs.
Uh this thing trades for like an eight
peg. It's it's very very expensive. But
a lot of this is driven by this retail
belief that this is the one beneficiary
of the Trump administration. Uh and uh
you know this kind of FOMO is what
people don't want to miss out on. Uh,
and again, I mean, if I'm in Palanteer,
I'm setting trailing stops, you know,
for for a potential recession reset back
down to probably a fair value closer to
about 40 bucks. Certainly not as low as
20. Anything under 40 would be a steal.
Uh, it could happen, but uh, we'll see.
Anyway, thanks so much for watching,
folks. We'll see you in the next one.
Goodbye and good luck. Why not advertise
these things that you told us here? I
feel like nobody else knows about this.
We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes. Congratulations, man.
You have done so much. People love you.
People look up to you. Kevin Praath
there, financial analyst and YouTuber,
Meet Kevin. Always great to get your
take.
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