This could be UGLY for Tesla | Watch BEFORE Tomorrow
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hey everyone me kevin here let's talk
tesla because tomorrow is july 20th
which is tesla's earnings a day after
hour stay tuned it's going to be big but
let's talk a little bit of a preview
before that so deutsche bank put out a
piece a research piece on tesla and they
actually issued a buy rating for tesla
before earnings listen to some of the
catalysts that they talk about then
we're going to talk about some of the
things that i'm finding important
regarding tesla some of the things that
i'm going to be looking for and of
course we're somewhere here in munich in
front of this fancy building it drove
over here for like six and a half hours
from dusseldorf and let's just say i'm
happy and not to be on the road anymore
today so let's get right into this okay
so what do we have here so deutsche bank
is calling tesla a buy ahead of earnings
and they believe that tesla's a buy
because they think the company is likely
to uh end up reporting a big beat on
margins over what wall street expects
that's because most of wall street has
been expecting a terrible margins for
tesla in q2 because shanghai has mostly
been shut down and as a result of
shanghai mostly being shut down which is
the most efficient plant that we have
operating right now from tesla the
expectations for margin are actually
quite low and they believe this sets
tesla for a potential big beat they also
believe that tesla's price increases
especially the 2 000 price increase that
we had this quarter is definitely going
to help ramp up margins again now i'm a
little skeptical here i've personally
been expecting a margin miss and the
reason for that is simply because
shanghai is a better plant even though
we get model s's and x's and the plaids
coming out of fremont and those are
helpful the shanghai plant will cost the
labor everything substantially cheaper
in shanghai now one of the things that i
love about shanghai though is the ramp
schedule and for the ram schedule i
actually jump over to a barclays report
so we get enthusiasm for a potential
margin beat from deutsche bank and we've
got a buy rating from deutsche bank but
when we jump over to the ramp schedule
that barclays gives it's kind of
interesting they believe
that by
2025 we're going to see fremont cap out
and pretty much where it is now right
around 500 to 550 000 units they believe
shanghai is going to move from about 775
000 units this year to almost a million
next year and that only capping out
around 1.1 by about 2025.
germany they think will ramp from about
59 000 vehicles this year to
275 000 next and then 470 000 by 2025
and austin from 59 000 this year to 234
000 next year and then of course 420 000
in 2025.
now this actually creates a little bit
of a downside risk in my opinion because
even though this forecast sounds nice
for ramping those facilities the
gigafactory berlin shanghai seeing
shanghai's expansion take effect getting
that to 1.1 and then of course austin
texas what are the big issues that we
have here is that barclays is only
suggesting a growth rate for tesla of 37
in 2023 18 in 2024 and just nine percent
in 2025 capping them out at two and a
half million vehicles produced by 2025
which is about one and a half million
vehicles less that i'm targeting
somewhere around four to four and a half
million vehicles this is a little bit of
a red flag so while we've got some
short-term excitement for a potential
beat on margin thanks to what deutsche
bank is showing us going into earnings
that longer term forecast from barclays
in my opinion not that great for
production now this is where my previous
belief about tesla becomes very very
important and that is that tesla cannot
keep its price up with these kind of
ramp rates we need to be able to have
more gigafactories so that wall street
starts pricing in that continued 40 to
50 percent compounded annual growth at
least for the next four to six years
that would justify tesla's valuation
much better than where we sit now and so
that does concern me a little bit that
barclays is not at all considering that
there will be any other gigafactories
between now and 2025. personally i think
that's one of the things that wall
street is really missing about tesla
that what elon musk wants to do is ramp
berlin and giga texas up as quickly as
possible
ramping these and taking these factories
from an idea to built within two years
to fully ramped within four years total
two years and then two years for ram and
then copy and pasting that model because
if we do that then what we could say
with tesla is all right let's go into
2023 when we're doing 250 k plus at
berlin and giga texas
now let's get an announcement from tesla
where in 2023 we're going to have
announcements for let's just say three
new gigafactories rather than just uh
berlin and tac and texas we get maybe
three new whether that's another one in
texas or
another one in south america or one the
first one in south america let's say
maybe one in indonesia whatever right
now we can really get those wall street
ramp rates up so that's something that
we really want to see hints of
on the tesla earnings call though
unfortunately i think now is a little
bit early for that so while i'm
optimistic that maybe deutsche bank will
be right and that will beat on margin
with tesla personally i think ah that
could be hopium and i don't think we're
going to get any kind of real optimism
for future ramp ups now other investment
analysts are suggesting that tesla is
going to do just fine this earnings
because they're going to maintain
substantial positive cash flow although
the estimates for this range we could
see a negative billion dollars in cash
flow we could see positive three billion
dollars in cash flow the estimates are
all over the place the estimates for
earnings are anywhere between a buck
forty per share to two dollars and ten
cents per share they're absolutely all
over the place but clearly in my opinion
the big things we're going to be paying
attention to first margin second do we
have any kind of hope for future
expansion of gigafactories and how are
the ramps going now because the smoother
the ramps go now which let's be real no
ramp goes smoothly okay these factories
are under chaos until they're actually
smoothly operating ramps suck uh then
then the more potential excitement we
can get for future gigas but i really
don't think q2 2022 is the time for any
kind of future company expansion plans
another thing though that we'll
obviously be looking at in the press
release as it comes out is any kind of
bitcoin impairment right now we're
expecting somewhere around 400 million
dollars in bitcoin impairment though
that's not a cash flow effect that will
be an eps and earnings per share effect
but we won't see that in the free cash
flow we'll be able to look at the free
cash flow number on the cash flow
statement and we'll be able to see that
okay they have some paper losses and
bitcoin that get added back in to free
cash flow which is important because we
want to see tesla's working capital be
very very high remember what elon musk
told us in an interview uh with uh with
the silicon valley owners club he told
us that
ramping factories is like throwing money
into a furnace it's literally like
lighting money on fire and what's really
important about that is that we separate
tesla from the notion that it could
potentially go bankrupt remember we are
either in a recession or are going into
a recession or we're basically going to
be teetering next to a recession even
bank of america is suggesting that we're
probably going to have four quarters of
negative gdp growth which the fact that
we're coming off the sugar high is
really no surprise anyway that we're
gonna have a little bit of a crash it's
not that big of a deal if anything it's
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now back to tesla we've talked about
margin we've talked about ramping we've
talked about bitcoin impairment and free
cash flow and expectations very very
important in my opinion that tesla does
maintain positive free cash flow if we
end up getting negative free cash flow
we're going to see more of those
concerns again that oh no here we go
risks of potential tesla bankruptcy
you'll get headlines tesla losing this
much money in the last quarter blah blah
blah and the net and and that's going to
raise the specter of questions again of
why in 2022 does it seem like at least
shout out to troy like on tesla this is
at troy tess like t-e-s-l-i-k-e
who does estimates for vehicle
deliveries and registrations in both
europe and the united states why is it
that the pace at which we're seeing
registrations of american teslas like
model 3s and wise why does it seem like
that's substantially slowing in 2022
relative to other years is tesla maybe
not as insulated from recessionary fears
as we'd hoped
and one of the ways we're going to kind
of get corroboration on that thesis is
or or concern is guidance from tesla so
is tesla going to maintain what elon
musk told us in q1 that hey we might be
able to grow at 60
i hope so but again opium is not an
investing strategy so we have to be
prepared for a potential miss on full
year guide i will tell you though that
tesla registrations in europe which
again go to uh troy's twitter page here
to see it tesla registrations in europe
in 2022 are ramping substantially faster
than in any year prior going all the way
back to 2013. now that could be because
now we're manufacturing 3 and why in
berlin but i doubt that that is exactly
why we're seeing this boost in
registrations what i actually believe is
because we're actually starting to see
the development of the tesla
supercharger network in europe one of
the most frustrating things about having
an electric vehicle is not having a
large enough supercharger network and it
takes time to build the supercharger
networks and so this is where i also am
going to want to pay attention to what
tesla is doing
on their next earnings release with the
supercharger stations how many
supercharger stations are we seeing
built we had superstar uh super
superstarter
supercharger stations in q1 of 2022 of
3724
which represented a 38 year-on-year
growth what i want to see is that number
actually go up because i want to see
tesla's ideally like best case scenario
tesla somehow magically pulls off margin
whether it's through price increases or
whatever
then we end up seeing positive free cash
flow and
more rapid deployments of the
supercharger network that is really
important for future sales and it
separates tesla from all the competition
so again we've got super supercharger
stations at 3724
i want to see that year over year growth
rate exceed 38
now the comp that we're going to be
facing for q2 2021 is
2966 so just do
2966 times one point say four uh which
let's see four times three would be
about 1200 we'd probably that means we'd
have to be somewhere around 4 200. we'd
have to be opening somewhere around 500
supercharger stations that would be a
little faster than what we usually do
which seems to be around two to 300
supercharger stations so i might be
disappointed there but we'll see how how
close we get
and that's just mental math there but
anyway the next thing that i'm excited
about or going to be excited about is
solar deployment so we actually had a
negative
48 solar deployed growth in q1 it's not
uncommon to see a big drop off in q1
usually from q4 but to see a
year-over-year q1 plummet like that i
don't know what happened there for in in
q1 so i'd really like to see solar panel
deployment up uh certainly year over
year i mean we've got to be 85 megawatts
we were at 48 which is poultry in q1 i
don't know what happened there uh i so
i'd like to get a little bit more
clarity on the solar ramp because uh
either homeowners have officially
started to pull back their spending on
investing in their homes which will be a
catalyst for end phase stock as well
which ran to like 215 i wanted to short
it fell to 186 i didn't end up shorting
i just talked about shorting it to
course members of the course member live
streams uh and and now it's already
bouncing back to over what two or five
two or six or so today uh which is
remarkable it's a great company and i
love and face i just expect that if home
appreciation stalls and slows down that
people will spend less on solar and
certainly spend less on batteries
remember for these 5k battery packs
you're spending somewhere around 10 to
15 000 installed i think tesla batteries
you're spending 10 000 on the battery
plus install 5 grand in the permit and
everything it's expensive to do these
batteries and i'm not sure if homeowners
right now want to spend money on doing
the battery upgrades and that's where
the margin is remember that when it
comes to solar the margin is not in the
stupid panels it's in the inverters
whether they're micro inverters or
string inverters whatever
or the battery so i should say and the
batteries that's where the freaking
money is so i do want to see some growth
there as well uh you know i don't expect
to see anything exciting out of tesla
insurance yet although i will tell you i
think the safety score feature that
tesla has is is so unique and
proprietary and it is something that
absolutely uh will be revolutionary in
the insurance industry in the future but
look insurance is one of those products
that even though elon musk believes that
in the future insurance alone could be
worth a quarter of the value of the
company
i think that is just pie in the sky
opium at this point i think what's more
pressing in the near term rather than
talking about fsd or insurance or cyber
truck time frames or all this other kind
of opium crap like roadster time frames
semi-truck time frames all that stuff is
not going to matter in my opinion in
this quarter i think actually what
matters more than all of those things is
what ends up happening with twitter now
i'm going to make some separate videos
on elon musk and twitter and some of my
thoughts especially as we find out what
the judge ends up ruling in terms of is
elon going to be faced with an expedited
trial in september are we going to have
a more full-fledged exposure of all the
bot accounts at twitter
which will probably uh be more of an
extended like one to two-year court
battle starting uh in 2023 is my guess
and then that'll go for a few years and
it'll just be a long overhang for
twitter it'll be terrible and twitter
will probably end up if they go for a
long lawsuit i wouldn't be surprised if
twitter ends up caving and we get some
kind of negotiated price twitter ends up
getting sold to elon musk for
substantially less twitter's best case
scenario is getting an expedited trial
and being done with this
which an expedited trial would probably
be quite bad for elon musk but we'll see
what happens there again this isn't
supposed to be a twitter elon musk video
really at this point i think elon musk
has liquidated what he needs to to do
the twitter deal whether it happens or
not
and i don't know how much of an effect
is left for tesla there although we do
expect that if the deal doesn't go
through
that there should be some residual
benefit to tesla stock as the investor
community does seem to believe that elon
musk would otherwise be distracted if he
uh if he did get involved with uh
managing and running twitter uh and
trying to reform twitter so anyway uh
personally optimistic i am also uh
probably going to be selling my model s
plaid and maybe we'll trade that in for
an x we'll see uh you know it's one of
those weird things where
last september i tweeted uh don't buy a
tesla buy
tsla and uh
that ended up not being the best uh
suggestion because the cars ended up
going up more in value than tesla stock
hopefully
this time though is different because
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