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The Elon Musk Double U-Turn: Cancelling Twitter & Saving Tesla.

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investors so can Elon Musk still cancel

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his deal to purchase Twitter and will it

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finally stop the pain over a Tesla stock

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whether he cancels or not is there a

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potential scenario where Tesla stock

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does gets hammered no matter what

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happens we're going to talk about both

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of those questions in this video hey

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everyone meet Kevin here let's get

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started with Kenny Elon Musk still

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canceled so the best thing to do to

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answer this question is simply to go to

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the cancellation rights in the contract

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here you go well here is the Glorious

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section of the contract that tells you

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exactly what happens in the event that

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Elon Musk is able to terminate and for

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what reasons he's able to terminate

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there aren't many reasons as long as

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Twitter fulfills their obligations which

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obviously there's a whole Court battle

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about that which hasn't completed yet

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but clearly at this point it seems like

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elon's kind of taken the L on that core

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battle so far at least hey who knows

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we're gonna assume right now that we're

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not going to relitigate the entire court

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case we're just going to look at this

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cancellation right here and the

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cancellation right creates three ways

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that Elon Musk could terminate the

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transaction however in the event he

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terminated the transaction through one

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of those three ways he would be required

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parent in this case be Elon Musk will be

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required to pay Twitter a termination

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fee of 1 billion dollars okay and that

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states here that

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as described above if the conditions to

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parents and acquisition Subs obligations

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to complete the merchant are merger are

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satisfied and Elon Musk basically fails

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to consummate the merger as required

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including because of the following

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Equity debt and or margin financing is

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not funded Elon Musk parent will be

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required to pay a termination fee of 1

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billion dollars now this is really

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interesting because at first I thought

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the three reasons he'd be able to cancel

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would actually just be two it'd

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basically just be if margin isn't funded

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or debt isn't funded but let's break

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these down one at a time and see where

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there's an interesting potential

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loophole maybe for Elon Musk so first

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debt financing isn't funded Elon Musk

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right now has about a 13 billion dollar

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loan uh commitment from Morgan Stanley

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and it is one heck of an expensive loan

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or at least it has gotten very expensive

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here is the section that talks about the

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interest rate from the debt financing

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commitment letter and it shows us that

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Elon Musk pays approximately

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sofr plus 4.75 or 4.5 let's just go

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conservative and say 4.5 percent as the

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spread on top of whatever sofr is well

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sofr has exploded it's gone from about

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30 basis points to over 3 percent that

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means the following which I found on

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Twitter from this person at realmeet

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Kevin think interest rates going up

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hurts just ask Elon Musk his 12.5

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billion dollar loan approximately 13.

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right this is kind of where people round

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it from Morgan Stanley to buy Twitter

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now costs him an extra 375 million

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dollars more per year

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thanks to radhikes every single year 375

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million dollars more that works out to

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over one million dollars per day in

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extra interest just to do this deal

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because j-pal raised rates okay so worth

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noting this is expensive but according

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to the opposing Council and again this

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is according to opposing counsel okay so

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it's probably a little biased but as of

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September 12th at least it they argue

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here that not only is the agreement not

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terminated but the bank commitment and

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Equity commitment letters still remain

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in effect now that is actually really

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important right there because if that is

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true that debt financing and Equity

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financing commitments are still in

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effect

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and Elon Musk has already canceled his

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need for margin financing he killed that

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rather than using Tesla stock as

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collateral he did the next best thing he

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just sold his Tesla stock and now he

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doesn't need the margin anymore

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obviously that created a lot of selling

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pressure on Tesla stock but anyway so

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according to at least the defendants the

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Twitter attorneys

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financing commitment letter is still

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active

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Audi commitments are still active

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however this is where things get a

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little bit interesting

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when it comes to the debt commitment I

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pretty much agree because the debt

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commitment actually says that the debt

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commitment doesn't expire until the

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outside date of six months after 4 20

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when the deal was originally Inked I

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know it was Inked on 420. but anyway

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that means October 20th is when the bank

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could actually renegotiate this loan and

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I have a suspicion the bank would love

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to renegotiate this loan that's because

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interest rates have moved in such a

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terrible direction that and and it's

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very difficult to get third parties to

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do unsecured financing deals right now

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deals that aren't like leaned up against

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the actual underlying property that the

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bank might end up being on the hook for

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this loan in terms of holding the loan

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see you got to remember companies like

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banks that put these deals together they

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get usually one to one and a half

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percent in advisory fees on these deals

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on a 44 billion dollar deal that could

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be like well quite frankly somewhere

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around 400 million dollars in advisory

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fees for this deal happening so like the

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banks are going to make out like bandits

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in advisory fees but they're potentially

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going to get reamed on that 12 and a

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half to 13 billion dollars of debt

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financing because usually Banks don't

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actually want your loan like people keep

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thinking oh the interest rate is higher

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like the bank's gonna make more money no

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the bank does not want a book of loans

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what they want is to write a loan going

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hey you promised to repay this money

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right okay here's the money all right

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now I got a promise to repay now I'm

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gonna maybe uh securitize this by

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bundling it together with a bunch of

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other loans and then slicing it up into

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uh you know a thousand little slices and

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selling it as uh bonds to you know

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corporate bonds to some Swedish investor

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or something and I'm sure everything

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will be fine

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nothing like 2008. but anyway Banks

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don't want these what they want is the

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fee for doing this it's basically what

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you're doing is you're it's kind of like

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syndicating real estate but it's

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syndicating loans okay the bank doesn't

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actually want to take all their cash and

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tie it up in an unsecured loan

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especially since that can lead them to

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have to take Mark to Market write Downs

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on their earnings reports which leads to

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a lower earnings per share for the

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quarter and then that looks bad for the

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executive staff and it just looks like a

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bad deal all around and it's generally

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not something Banks want a lot of on the

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book anyway because it creates too much

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risk with the central banks and the

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central banks are like ah you know

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things go bad that loan could go bad and

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then now that adds to more stress at

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your bank and then if you're too big to

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fail we have to bail that out and we

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don't want to do that so we might tell

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you you have to get rid of that and if

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you have to get rid of that loan that

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you're holding well we don't really care

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what you have to sell it for just take a

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big loss and get rid of it okay so like

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long and short of it like the banks

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would probably love to bail on this

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equity or rather this debt financing

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commitment because they're going to lose

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probably more money than they're going

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to make on advisory fees the problem is

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they committed to this deal until

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October 20th

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now they could renege on that but that

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would slay probably at least slay their

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reputation on Wall Street it's like your

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commitment letter is basically now

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worthless because you just weasled out

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of it at the last minute so I think the

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banks are kind of on the hook with this

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one so I don't think that debt financing

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isn't going to get funded I actually

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think that debt financing is going to

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get funded uh the margin financing isn't

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an issue and so really the only

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potential loophole here is that

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something squirrely happens with that

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Equity financing commitment letter now

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the equity financing some of that money

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is coming from Elon Musk but some of

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that money is coming from other people

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like the following firms like Apollo

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Global Management Inc and 6th Street

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Partners had been in discussions to

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contribute billions of dollars via

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preferred Equity stake before musk

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declared the deal dead this is from

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Bloomberg

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musk had been looking to raise as much

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as six billion dollars from preferred

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Equity investors as a way to reduce the

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amount of cash he had to provide himself

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to do the deal in the transaction

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financing for the transaction includes

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about 13 billion dollars of debt led by

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Morgan Stanley we already talked about

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that part right now Reuters via

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Bloomberg is reporting that Apollo and

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6th Street are no longer in talks with

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Elon Musk to provide financing for the

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deal there's talk on Wall Street that

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they were never even really interested

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from the get-go so maybe these two

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companies are just straight up clickbait

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trying to get their names in headlines

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and maybe these two companies didn't

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even matter from the get-go and that the

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other companies who are providing money

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for Elon stealer are actually still

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interested I don't know but it's

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possible that maybe some of those other

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companies aren't actually interested

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we'll see so now you've got a really

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interesting problem because you're

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sitting in this world where uh oh okay

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well the Dead financing is probably

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going to happen and quite frankly if

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Elon Musk wanted to like weasel out of

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this deal why would he make this

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commitment to do the deal

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16 days before the debt financing offer

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would expire oh and the likely reason

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for that is the court date was set for

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October 17th and that is a trial date

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which means Elon Musk would have had to

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have gone through depositions before

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that trial date on the 17th then the

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trial date would have occurred and quite

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frankly as of October 5th here at 10 pm

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California time the Delaware Chancery

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Court on Wednesday said that neither

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side has yet asked to pause the case

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which is really interesting because then

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it makes you wonder what if this is all

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like a big charade like what if elon's

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like okay I'll keep going in with the

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deal and then even if you go to court on

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the 17th you know would would the court

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case be done within three days or could

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you in court say like hey your honor I

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said I'll complete the deal at full

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price you know we just need some more

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time Kick the Can down the road a week

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and now your debt financing expires boom

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one billion dollar termination walk away

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I don't know this is not as clear-cut

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and over as some folks are trying to

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make it seem remember if he cancels

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under either debt or Equity not being

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available it's a billion dollar

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termination fee and the benefit to this

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billion dollar termination fee is let's

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be real

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he probably saved like 20 billion

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dollars okay that's because on a price

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to sales multiple Twitter is selling for

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twice the sales ratio of Snapchat and

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Facebook twice the valuation on a price

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to sales basis

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and now if you go to price to earnings

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it's even worse I mean you're paying

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over 70 times 2022 earnings for this

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company when you have other companies

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like Google trading for 10 to 15 Apple

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trading around 30. I mean even Tesla

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with what many think is a high valuation

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is trading for like you know 55 to 60

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times earnings in 2022. Twitter's

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getting reamed here and it's not only

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well I mean Twitter would be getting

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reamed right like Windows valuation

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should be getting reamed but it's not

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only the fact that multiples have

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completely collapsed in the market but

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advertisers have pulled back a lot of

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money for not from advertising so

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earnings per share at Twitter are

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probably collapsing as well in fact

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their last quarter was terrible

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so elon's kind of overpaying for this

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deal and paying a billion dollar fine

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and I mean when I say he's kind of

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overpaying for the deal I should clarify

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that and say he's really really

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overpaying for the deal okay it's so bad

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it's so bad that you literally have

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Barons on the front page of Barons

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running Elon Musk is overpaying for

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Twitter by a huge amount here's the math

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okay so like don't just take my word for

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it to like do the math yourself and it's

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just like oh terrible so Elon would

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benefit from just walking away from this

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deal even if it cost him a billion

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dollars because a billion dollar loss

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would be a lot better than the loss in

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valuation he's going to suffer from for

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actually owning this company now the

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thesis is that hey well if he can you

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know incorporate this as part of his ex

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Holdings or maybe he as he's alluded to

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on Twitter he can create a future app

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like an x.com app or whatever that maybe

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it's like a WeChat or subscription and

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payment model and it's somewhat

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decentralized and it's got Free Speech

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but it's got public moderation for that

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you know whatever if he can do all those

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things and he can grow the user base to

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a billion users and and monetize it in a

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better way great

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but you still love a pain right now but

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don't change the fact that you're

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overpaying by a lot right now okay now

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is there the potential that any of this

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creates some more stress on Tesla stock

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and the reality is yes absolutely so

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first of all we know that Elon Musk

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needs to come up himself with

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approximately another two billion

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dollars so Elon musk's got to come up

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with an extra two billion dollars but we

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don't know the details of the equity

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financing agreement but if the top two

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are good let's say debt financing and

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margin financing let's say these are not

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considerations anymore but what if that

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Equity financing says that whatever he

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can't raise comes from Elon Musk well if

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Elon Musk is and ends up being five

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billion dollars short on Equity

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financing it's entirely possible Elon

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might have to sell another five billion

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dollars of Tesla stock which could

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create seven billion dollars of seven

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selling pressure on Tesla now a really

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dirty scenario could be what if they go

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to court and then the debt financing

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expires and then the judge says too bad

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you tried to play a game letting your

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debt financing expire I'm gonna make you

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come up with with the money anyway that

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could be another 13 billion dollars that

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Elon has to come up with that would just

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be like the worst possible potential

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scenario but could happen now those are

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short-term gyrations in in selling

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pressure in the future uh Tesla should

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go back to a more fundamental uh based

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valuation one that's not based on a fear

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over China or fear over you know

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deliveries and demand evaporating or

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fear over Elon selling which he could in

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theory through a 10b51 plan even through

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the lock-up period here or the blackout

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period before earnings uh they could

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have prescribed a plan for the selling

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this extra two bill right

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so yeah you absolutely potentially still

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have other dangers and risks coming for

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Tesla stock and a lot of it I think is

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going to hinge on is that extra Equity

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financing going to happen or can he

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somehow get things to delay to the point

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where the banks end up bailing on

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financing and then oops sorry we played

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the game waited 16 days here's your

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billion dollar cancellation goodbye

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you know if some of his Equity Partners

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don't come through because valuations

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went to poopy doopies and maybe they

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don't want to overpay either

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does that potentially mean more selling

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pressure on Tesla and the answer there

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is yes anyway thanks so much for

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