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How Bad *CASH BURN* is at my Housing Startup | HouseHack.

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hey everyone me Kevin here it's time for

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an update for all house hack investors

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or anyone curious about a house hack I'm

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going to reveal what our monthly burn is

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for house hack at this point where we

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might be able to save money and where

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costs could change I'll also make some

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projections but I want to be very clear

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we don't do projections for househack I

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don't tell you how much I think the

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company's going to be worth in the

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future I really don't like projections

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because honestly any company that did

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projections two years ago or in you know

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2020 2021 it was all BS so I hate that

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kind of stuff I just want to make an

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honest investment opportunity for people

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who are interested in house hack and as

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I always have to say this video is not a

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solicitation you have to go to

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househack.com or read the PPM there

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that's a solicitation but I just want to

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be very honest house hack is a very

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simple company it's a company that I

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have a lot of great Ambitions for but

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we're going to do very simple things

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we're going to buy home and rent them

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out now you might ask oh well how's that

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similar or different from a Reit or

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how's that similar different from those

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companies that let you cut up you know

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slices of homes into little shares and

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then let you you know invest in those

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look I've answered this in many videos

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before you could look at the house hack

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playlist and get a detailed explanation

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but let me make it very simple I don't

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think there's anybody else in the United

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States that runs a real estate company

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like this that buys wedge Deals they buy

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deals based on the cash flow they think

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they can get and they rent them out why

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bother with wedge deals if the equity

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doesn't really make you potentially more

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money to be clear buy more money I mean

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more cash flow right it's hard to get

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wedge deals it takes effort it takes

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work but the actual Equity boost

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increases the value of the company it

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increases the amount of deals we could

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do it increases our margin of safety

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even though it may not necessarily

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change the cash flow on a particular

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deal it's harder to do it but I I think

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it's the model that should be used in

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real estate and quite frankly I don't

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see anybody else doing it and I think we

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can create a very successful company

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scaling the wedge deal model throughout

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America right the companies just want

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AUM and they rent them out that's why

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maybe you could kind of say how Sac is

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kind of like a read with a wedge

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component right but we're not actually

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filing as a read a real estate

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investment trust because really we're

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planning on building the company and

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reinvesting Equity not Distributing it

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that way in the future we can open up

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other verticals like medium and

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short-term rentals we can create a

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branded Hospitality approach when the

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time for that is right you know we want

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to make sure we're building on strong

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foundations and not get into crazy

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airbnbs when the Airbnb bubble is

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potentially popping in front of our

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faces right we're not buying homes yet

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because the real estate market is still

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plummeting we've no idea where rates are

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going to settle and we're not slicing

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dicing properties where we have this

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motivation to look for the highest cash

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flow properties in day dangerous areas

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or shady areas or take the worst

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possible tenons just to pump up a cash

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flow number and then sell it as like an

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nft for a house or a token or a share in

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a home I hate that because those kinds

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of things just like syndications very

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very high fee and they have an incentive

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to invest in my opinion in lower quality

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real estate that's just my opinion this

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is totally my opinion maybe that's

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exactly what you're looking for and

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that's just what househack is not but to

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be very clear househack is a company

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where I plan to buy both apartment

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buildings and single families though

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probably predominantly single families

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in Diversified markets in the United

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States TV to TBD exactly where and we'll

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look for properties that we think we can

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buy for as an example four hundred

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thousand dollars in a six hundred

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thousand dollar neighborhood and maybe

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spend fifty thousand dollars fixing the

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property up so we can get a nice

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long-term quality tenant for either long

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term or even medium or short term

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depending on what's most appropriate at

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the time but we want quality tenants low

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turnover in-house Professional Property

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Management that we will handle and the

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beautiful thing about all of it is we

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think we're going to be able to buy

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homes for 450 000 that are worth 600.

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that way we're insulated in case the

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market goes down if the market goes up

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we've got more equity and in the future

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we can slice out portions of the

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portfolio to retirement funds or

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whatever and get more funding to buy

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more homes and so in my opinion this is

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a very simple model it's not like we're

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creating some kind of widget that's like

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that much big of a surprise the hardest

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thing on me is going to be traveling to

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the probably four three to four

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locations to start with that we're

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investing in and basically be an expert

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in those areas uh now I think I'm a very

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well versed real estate investor I've

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got a long background in real estate

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it's how I got started you could look at

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my real estate playlist and see all of

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my information about buying wedge deals

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all the wedge deals I bought the wedge

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deals I've sold my Theses on real estate

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right this video isn't for that this

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video is instead to focus on all right

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Kevin what's the monthly burn that's

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what we came here for all right so let's

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uh let's just go through it and and keep

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it very simple

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so uh I think the easiest way to do this

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is uh just kind of uh delete things here

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one at a time and then that way I can

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kind of undo the deletes uh and we can

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kind of go through them in a way that I

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can explain them so I have a little

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spreadsheet that I put together this is

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not like unofficial accounting this is

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just a very simple ballpark for everyone

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I don't want people to to hang their

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hats on this right this is not a

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guarantee these are just ballpark

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estimates and the numbers could be wrong

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okay but I don't expect they're too

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terribly far off so uh Lauren me the

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board we make no money it's zero very

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very simple it's zero okay then we do

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have uh an investor relations uh

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accounting person they've got a lot of

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work ahead of them issuing the stock

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certificates making sure everything is

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correct helping people make sure that if

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they're investing in their Roth or their

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retirement account they're uh properly

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accounted it for them they have

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certificates issued to the correct

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entity whether it's an LLC or themselves

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personally or their trust or their

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retirement account it's

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grueling painstaking work to make sure

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everybody's situation is perfect but I'm

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a big fan of making sure it's all

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perfect so we're really investing money

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in IR to make sure that everything is

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perfect so this is about a ten thousand

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dollar a month uh expense uh one third

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of staff so I have an individual who

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then helps with investor relations and

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emails and and office work for three of

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my companies and so we're only building

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one third of his salary to house hack I

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think that's fair and the nice thing

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about that is you've got somebody who

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really has their hands in all businesses

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and is is really aware of everything

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that's going on and the nice thing about

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that is not only do I feel like if we

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had somebody full-time just for this

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company they wouldn't have enough to do

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but then we'd be overpaying them right

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so we're able able to kind of spread out

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their daily workload which I think is

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really good so one third of them

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then we've got a one-third of another

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licensed CPA that works for three of my

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companies it's about five thousand

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dollars that's one third

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then we've got one third of cyber

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expenses utilities computers

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Administration rent like office space

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miscellaneous expenses property taxes

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insurances you name it it's probably

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about three thousand dollars a month I

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I'm I think I'm being generous with that

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it's a ballpark we're still signing for

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new insurances right now like we're

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we're establishing our board and

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directors Insurance like all of these

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things are are uh you know it's a

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startup so like uh some things need to

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be renewed some things need to be formed

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uh filing for trademarks right some of

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these miscellaneous things these are all

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things that I'm kind of lumping together

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here so plus or minus about 3K

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then we've got uh marketing monthly I

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think this is high and so that way if uh

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if my number above is a little low this

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is probably a little high we pay for the

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texting service that's probably

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somewhere around two thousand dollars a

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month in the email services like

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MailChimp uh so that's that and that's

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you know you have to remember we have to

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market for investors to some degrees to

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some extent communicate with investors

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in Mass because obviously we would like

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to have more investors for househag even

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though we don't really need more money

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for househack to be viable the more

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money we have the more power we have in

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negotiations potentially in the future

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when we want to buy uh from Builders or

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conduct bulk purchases or whatever we

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have more power to do that if we have

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more cashola so there's obviously a

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benefit to expanding the reach for house

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hack investors

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and that's also why we're doing the reg

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a which the reg a is kind of a plus or

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minus TBD exactly what this is going to

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be but we think it's going to be about

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50 000 that's not a monthly burn figure

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that's sort of one time that covers like

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the audits the filing fees the attorneys

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and everything involved with the reggae

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that's on top of the other expenses for

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starting the company uh the wedge finder

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app the deal finder you know buying that

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the startup costs for the initial legal

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fees and all that that wasn't paid out

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of cash though that was paid out of some

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initial stock uh and so this right here

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is the reggae we expect to be plus or

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minus 50k and the cool thing about the

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reggae is it's going to expand our base

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to more investors who don't have to be

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accredited we expect that to maybe

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launch gosh at this point probably

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leaning towards the end of February

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maybe early March I'm still optimistic

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about January but I think that's turning

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into hopium it's probably Feb March for

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the a non-accredited and and I don't

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know that there's a massive huge rush

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but hey look if if we have more

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investors who want to come in with the

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reggae I think that's going to be a

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wonderful opportunity for them to take

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part uh in the company and remember the

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way we're raising money for the company

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the valuation of the company is roughly

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roughly plus or minus because we've got

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some small little adjustments for for

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some of the startup costs uh it's

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roughly one to one uh we can break all

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of that down and we will probably when

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we do the uh when we release the audited

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financials and then we're gonna have

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like a real audit right and that's cool

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because that's all going to be part of

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our reggae filing so this is more of

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just sort of like an interim little

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update here and uh we want to make sure

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that uh we're as transparent as possible

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but without having all of the exacts

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right now we're not going to be able to

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go through all that but that is coming

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so stay tuned for that big reggae

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audited accounting I just want to give

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you an update of kind of like okay where

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is money right now right okay good so

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continuing on reggae uh one time plus or

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minus a 50k all right uh travel right

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now is is really next to zero and that's

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because we don't really have a need to

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do much out of the office at this point

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that we expect to change though in the

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future right in the future there's going

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to be a lot of traveling and we want to

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make sure we're as cost effective and as

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efficient as possible while also

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actually being able to go right we don't

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want to be in a situation where like oh

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you know we're not going to go until two

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weeks from now and and we lose some

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flexibility on getting deals so we have

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to figure out exactly how to be very

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flexible and I've already got some

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solutions lined up for that so I'm very

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excited about that while at the same

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time keeping travel costs reasonably low

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so if we add this together not including

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that 50 sort of one time there that

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works out to roughly a monthly burn of

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about twenty three thousand two hundred

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dollars now we're sending out an

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investor relations update letter uh

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about uh what we have updated here which

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is we have moved 21.5 million dollars uh

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yeah okay I'll talk about that note I

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put a little note there for myself to

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talk about this we have moved about 21.5

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million dollars into a ladder treasury

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portfolio and the the fee we're paying

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for this laddering is so so so so tiny

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we we could not do it like for that fee

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we could not do it ourselves so we think

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we're in a really really great

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reasonable position we're on 21.5

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million dollars of cash which is not all

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of the cash that we've raised but it's

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it's a large chunk of it we are

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expecting to earn a rough yield net a

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fee and this is plus or minus okay I'm

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not I don't wanna anybody to think these

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are guarantees this is just rough

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numbers the rough yield right now net of

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fees uh is about 4.1 which is kind of

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cool because on an annualized basis

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assuming we can maintain that yield for

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an entire year which we might not be

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able to right it depends the yields

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could go up the yield could go down it

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depends it's a ladder portfolio roughly

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right now the net annual yield should be

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about 881

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000 which is really really awesome uh

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because the bonds that we're buying are

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bonds that we think will actually be

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worth more money when it's time to buy

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real estate that's because when it's

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time to buy real estate we believe is

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when interest rates start falling again

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when rates fall bonds tend to go up in

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price so if you're holding bonds and all

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of a sudden rates fall your bonds at

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higher yields are more valuable and so

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then you can actually sell them back for

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more money that's trading bonds we don't

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really plan to trade bonds we plan to

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just hold a ladder portfolio and then as

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they come due and like May of next year

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and July of next year in October of next

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year we get cash and then we could

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either reinvest that or we could buy

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real estate which we want to buy real

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estate we're just not exactly sure yet

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when the perfect time to buy real estate

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is the point is we're ready to strike

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right like this money we should be able

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to dump back onto the market if we

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needed to the bonds hopefully sell the

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bonds at a profit

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if we needed to or we just wait for them

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to expire and roll off which is fine

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because they're all short term you know

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a few months out uh to a year out you

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know some of them a little bit more some

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of them a little less uh we can just

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wait for them to roll off and we don't

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have any Market risk that way that's

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really cool and let me just clarify how

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that works if you buy a bond today that

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has a four percent yield and it's due in

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October 2023 and you pay a thousand

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dollars for that bond that thousand

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dollars can fluctuate in value it could

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be worth eleven hundred dollars one day

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it could be worth nine hundred dollars

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one day doesn't matter though because if

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you hold it to maturity that market risk

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goes away you get a thousand dollars

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back plus your yield basically I'm

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oversimplifying because bonds are bought

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at a discount and so you're you get a

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thousand dollars back but that

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encompasses already the premium that

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you've I'm oversimplified but that's

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roughly how it works and so that makes

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our monthly cash cash flow roughly no

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guarantees things could change about

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fifty thousand dollars a month as we're

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just waiting for uh the market to uh to

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fall in real estate which it already is

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Moody's is expecting home prices to fall

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15 they've already fallen six to ten

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percent uh not only that but I think

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Moody's is wrong I think home prices are

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going to fall 15 to 25 percent the

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longer rates stay high the more pain

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we're going to have we're starting to

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see I mean obviously 31 declines in year

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over year sales volume we're seeing

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listing cancellation Skyrocket price

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drop Skyrocket it's just when we get to

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March or April we're gonna see

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year-over-year numbers for real estate

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and I think every headline on newspapers

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is going to be year over year home price

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is negative and that's going to create a

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lot of fear for housing so I think we're

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in a safe spot to be patient uh not only

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because we're literally farming yield

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but our burn for a corporation for a

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company is extremely low low extremely

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low I mean this is there's like no burn

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okay and and I want to be clear the

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reason we can do this is because uh

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myself and Lauren uh the board and and

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some core individuals aren't actually

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expected to get any compensation until

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after this company IPOs so we'll at some

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point get some kind of stock options and

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we expect those to essentially be locked

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up or not really vest until after IPO we

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may never even IPO but but that's my

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goal is to IPO

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and uh and and then even after IPO we

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don't want to just be able to let people

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with stock options dump at IPO because I

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think that's the wrong way to run a

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business so there should be some sort of

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strict block-ups where it takes like

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four or five years to be able to fully

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sell if somebody was even fully inclined

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to sell they might not want to sell I I

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don't think I would sell all my shares

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like I I love this like this is this is

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my baby this is this is my dream so I'm

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really really excited about this

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so uh super low monthly burn

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uh the stock the future stock options

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obviously helps with that oh but what

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also helps is that I've got these other

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businesses right so I'm able to take uh

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accountants or staff and have them work

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on my other businesses while house hack

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is not really doing much right now other

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than raising money so for example we

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have four construction workers they're

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employed by another business of mine in

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the future when it's time to start doing

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our in-house Property Management all I

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have to do is go okay you're done over

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there whoop now you're on house hack

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payroll when we're actually operating

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right and that keeps our cash flow low

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to basically uh well that keeps our cash

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burn low very very low while we sit

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around and wait and in the meantime

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we're yield farming which is freaking

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awesome uh and so we're very very very

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very excited about that obviously uh

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your incentive to invest in house hacks

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sooner is your ability to get extra

18:20

bonus warrants you can learn more about

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that at househack.com or watch the

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househack playlist you can see that

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playlist by going to metcaven.com Links

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there's a link for the house hack

18:30

playlist uh or just go to househack.com

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you should see the playlist there or the

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videos there

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if you have any questions you can always

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email us at IR househack.com you could

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leave a comment down below is another

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option but uh yeah I'm excited stay

18:46

tuned for the reggae audit I think

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that's going to be done in a week or two

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it's been going for like three weeks now

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uh the Auditors have everything it's

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really it seems like it's going great

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and I'm very excited about that audit

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because then we put this entire company

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in front of the SEC

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and uh we'll we'll get to see what kind

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of comments the SEC has for us they're

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pretty scrutinizing about real estate

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which I actually think is a good thing

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for investors uh you know a lot of

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people are like oh I don't like the SEC

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I actually think a lot of what they do

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is is needed I think it's uh it's

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wonderful so I'm optimistic uh and I'm

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very excited about about just the

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opportunities we have ahead of us so I I

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couldn't be more excited to buy real

19:26

estate in the future also I wanted to

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clarify uh and I don't know if I I like

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how hard I want to commit to this but

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I'm pretty committed to this idea Lauren

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and I we have just two uh development

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projects left and what we're thinking

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about doing is selling those and then

19:45

Lauren and I personally will never have

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rental property uh tentatively again

19:51

again I I'm not like 100 clear on that

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commitment level

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so that could change but this is a

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conversation Lauren and I were having

19:59

we're like why would we personally want

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any tenants we don't want any househack

20:02

investor to think that like oh we're

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scooping up deals before house hack

20:06

we're just gonna let the tenants be at

20:08

house hack and that's where all of our

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real estate exposure uh could eventually

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be so uh you know with the exception of

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like a personal residence and stuff like

20:17

that

20:18

um but yeah we're very excited so this

20:20

is uh this is a full little update here

20:22

uh ballpark numbers obviously everything

20:24

subject to change read the solicitation

20:26

at househack.com

20:27

and uh super excited to have you here

20:31

watching and supporting the channel and

20:32

supporting the Endeavor it's gonna be

20:34

fun thanks so much folks and we'll see

20:36

in the next one

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