How Bad *CASH BURN* is at my Housing Startup | HouseHack.
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hey everyone me Kevin here it's time for
an update for all house hack investors
or anyone curious about a house hack I'm
going to reveal what our monthly burn is
for house hack at this point where we
might be able to save money and where
costs could change I'll also make some
projections but I want to be very clear
we don't do projections for househack I
don't tell you how much I think the
company's going to be worth in the
future I really don't like projections
because honestly any company that did
projections two years ago or in you know
2020 2021 it was all BS so I hate that
kind of stuff I just want to make an
honest investment opportunity for people
who are interested in house hack and as
I always have to say this video is not a
solicitation you have to go to
househack.com or read the PPM there
that's a solicitation but I just want to
be very honest house hack is a very
simple company it's a company that I
have a lot of great Ambitions for but
we're going to do very simple things
we're going to buy home and rent them
out now you might ask oh well how's that
similar or different from a Reit or
how's that similar different from those
companies that let you cut up you know
slices of homes into little shares and
then let you you know invest in those
look I've answered this in many videos
before you could look at the house hack
playlist and get a detailed explanation
but let me make it very simple I don't
think there's anybody else in the United
States that runs a real estate company
like this that buys wedge Deals they buy
deals based on the cash flow they think
they can get and they rent them out why
bother with wedge deals if the equity
doesn't really make you potentially more
money to be clear buy more money I mean
more cash flow right it's hard to get
wedge deals it takes effort it takes
work but the actual Equity boost
increases the value of the company it
increases the amount of deals we could
do it increases our margin of safety
even though it may not necessarily
change the cash flow on a particular
deal it's harder to do it but I I think
it's the model that should be used in
real estate and quite frankly I don't
see anybody else doing it and I think we
can create a very successful company
scaling the wedge deal model throughout
America right the companies just want
AUM and they rent them out that's why
maybe you could kind of say how Sac is
kind of like a read with a wedge
component right but we're not actually
filing as a read a real estate
investment trust because really we're
planning on building the company and
reinvesting Equity not Distributing it
that way in the future we can open up
other verticals like medium and
short-term rentals we can create a
branded Hospitality approach when the
time for that is right you know we want
to make sure we're building on strong
foundations and not get into crazy
airbnbs when the Airbnb bubble is
potentially popping in front of our
faces right we're not buying homes yet
because the real estate market is still
plummeting we've no idea where rates are
going to settle and we're not slicing
dicing properties where we have this
motivation to look for the highest cash
flow properties in day dangerous areas
or shady areas or take the worst
possible tenons just to pump up a cash
flow number and then sell it as like an
nft for a house or a token or a share in
a home I hate that because those kinds
of things just like syndications very
very high fee and they have an incentive
to invest in my opinion in lower quality
real estate that's just my opinion this
is totally my opinion maybe that's
exactly what you're looking for and
that's just what househack is not but to
be very clear househack is a company
where I plan to buy both apartment
buildings and single families though
probably predominantly single families
in Diversified markets in the United
States TV to TBD exactly where and we'll
look for properties that we think we can
buy for as an example four hundred
thousand dollars in a six hundred
thousand dollar neighborhood and maybe
spend fifty thousand dollars fixing the
property up so we can get a nice
long-term quality tenant for either long
term or even medium or short term
depending on what's most appropriate at
the time but we want quality tenants low
turnover in-house Professional Property
Management that we will handle and the
beautiful thing about all of it is we
think we're going to be able to buy
homes for 450 000 that are worth 600.
that way we're insulated in case the
market goes down if the market goes up
we've got more equity and in the future
we can slice out portions of the
portfolio to retirement funds or
whatever and get more funding to buy
more homes and so in my opinion this is
a very simple model it's not like we're
creating some kind of widget that's like
that much big of a surprise the hardest
thing on me is going to be traveling to
the probably four three to four
locations to start with that we're
investing in and basically be an expert
in those areas uh now I think I'm a very
well versed real estate investor I've
got a long background in real estate
it's how I got started you could look at
my real estate playlist and see all of
my information about buying wedge deals
all the wedge deals I bought the wedge
deals I've sold my Theses on real estate
right this video isn't for that this
video is instead to focus on all right
Kevin what's the monthly burn that's
what we came here for all right so let's
uh let's just go through it and and keep
it very simple
so uh I think the easiest way to do this
is uh just kind of uh delete things here
one at a time and then that way I can
kind of undo the deletes uh and we can
kind of go through them in a way that I
can explain them so I have a little
spreadsheet that I put together this is
not like unofficial accounting this is
just a very simple ballpark for everyone
I don't want people to to hang their
hats on this right this is not a
guarantee these are just ballpark
estimates and the numbers could be wrong
okay but I don't expect they're too
terribly far off so uh Lauren me the
board we make no money it's zero very
very simple it's zero okay then we do
have uh an investor relations uh
accounting person they've got a lot of
work ahead of them issuing the stock
certificates making sure everything is
correct helping people make sure that if
they're investing in their Roth or their
retirement account they're uh properly
accounted it for them they have
certificates issued to the correct
entity whether it's an LLC or themselves
personally or their trust or their
retirement account it's
grueling painstaking work to make sure
everybody's situation is perfect but I'm
a big fan of making sure it's all
perfect so we're really investing money
in IR to make sure that everything is
perfect so this is about a ten thousand
dollar a month uh expense uh one third
of staff so I have an individual who
then helps with investor relations and
emails and and office work for three of
my companies and so we're only building
one third of his salary to house hack I
think that's fair and the nice thing
about that is you've got somebody who
really has their hands in all businesses
and is is really aware of everything
that's going on and the nice thing about
that is not only do I feel like if we
had somebody full-time just for this
company they wouldn't have enough to do
but then we'd be overpaying them right
so we're able able to kind of spread out
their daily workload which I think is
really good so one third of them
then we've got a one-third of another
licensed CPA that works for three of my
companies it's about five thousand
dollars that's one third
then we've got one third of cyber
expenses utilities computers
Administration rent like office space
miscellaneous expenses property taxes
insurances you name it it's probably
about three thousand dollars a month I
I'm I think I'm being generous with that
it's a ballpark we're still signing for
new insurances right now like we're
we're establishing our board and
directors Insurance like all of these
things are are uh you know it's a
startup so like uh some things need to
be renewed some things need to be formed
uh filing for trademarks right some of
these miscellaneous things these are all
things that I'm kind of lumping together
here so plus or minus about 3K
then we've got uh marketing monthly I
think this is high and so that way if uh
if my number above is a little low this
is probably a little high we pay for the
texting service that's probably
somewhere around two thousand dollars a
month in the email services like
MailChimp uh so that's that and that's
you know you have to remember we have to
market for investors to some degrees to
some extent communicate with investors
in Mass because obviously we would like
to have more investors for househag even
though we don't really need more money
for househack to be viable the more
money we have the more power we have in
negotiations potentially in the future
when we want to buy uh from Builders or
conduct bulk purchases or whatever we
have more power to do that if we have
more cashola so there's obviously a
benefit to expanding the reach for house
hack investors
and that's also why we're doing the reg
a which the reg a is kind of a plus or
minus TBD exactly what this is going to
be but we think it's going to be about
50 000 that's not a monthly burn figure
that's sort of one time that covers like
the audits the filing fees the attorneys
and everything involved with the reggae
that's on top of the other expenses for
starting the company uh the wedge finder
app the deal finder you know buying that
the startup costs for the initial legal
fees and all that that wasn't paid out
of cash though that was paid out of some
initial stock uh and so this right here
is the reggae we expect to be plus or
minus 50k and the cool thing about the
reggae is it's going to expand our base
to more investors who don't have to be
accredited we expect that to maybe
launch gosh at this point probably
leaning towards the end of February
maybe early March I'm still optimistic
about January but I think that's turning
into hopium it's probably Feb March for
the a non-accredited and and I don't
know that there's a massive huge rush
but hey look if if we have more
investors who want to come in with the
reggae I think that's going to be a
wonderful opportunity for them to take
part uh in the company and remember the
way we're raising money for the company
the valuation of the company is roughly
roughly plus or minus because we've got
some small little adjustments for for
some of the startup costs uh it's
roughly one to one uh we can break all
of that down and we will probably when
we do the uh when we release the audited
financials and then we're gonna have
like a real audit right and that's cool
because that's all going to be part of
our reggae filing so this is more of
just sort of like an interim little
update here and uh we want to make sure
that uh we're as transparent as possible
but without having all of the exacts
right now we're not going to be able to
go through all that but that is coming
so stay tuned for that big reggae
audited accounting I just want to give
you an update of kind of like okay where
is money right now right okay good so
continuing on reggae uh one time plus or
minus a 50k all right uh travel right
now is is really next to zero and that's
because we don't really have a need to
do much out of the office at this point
that we expect to change though in the
future right in the future there's going
to be a lot of traveling and we want to
make sure we're as cost effective and as
efficient as possible while also
actually being able to go right we don't
want to be in a situation where like oh
you know we're not going to go until two
weeks from now and and we lose some
flexibility on getting deals so we have
to figure out exactly how to be very
flexible and I've already got some
solutions lined up for that so I'm very
excited about that while at the same
time keeping travel costs reasonably low
so if we add this together not including
that 50 sort of one time there that
works out to roughly a monthly burn of
about twenty three thousand two hundred
dollars now we're sending out an
investor relations update letter uh
about uh what we have updated here which
is we have moved 21.5 million dollars uh
yeah okay I'll talk about that note I
put a little note there for myself to
talk about this we have moved about 21.5
million dollars into a ladder treasury
portfolio and the the fee we're paying
for this laddering is so so so so tiny
we we could not do it like for that fee
we could not do it ourselves so we think
we're in a really really great
reasonable position we're on 21.5
million dollars of cash which is not all
of the cash that we've raised but it's
it's a large chunk of it we are
expecting to earn a rough yield net a
fee and this is plus or minus okay I'm
not I don't wanna anybody to think these
are guarantees this is just rough
numbers the rough yield right now net of
fees uh is about 4.1 which is kind of
cool because on an annualized basis
assuming we can maintain that yield for
an entire year which we might not be
able to right it depends the yields
could go up the yield could go down it
depends it's a ladder portfolio roughly
right now the net annual yield should be
about 881
000 which is really really awesome uh
because the bonds that we're buying are
bonds that we think will actually be
worth more money when it's time to buy
real estate that's because when it's
time to buy real estate we believe is
when interest rates start falling again
when rates fall bonds tend to go up in
price so if you're holding bonds and all
of a sudden rates fall your bonds at
higher yields are more valuable and so
then you can actually sell them back for
more money that's trading bonds we don't
really plan to trade bonds we plan to
just hold a ladder portfolio and then as
they come due and like May of next year
and July of next year in October of next
year we get cash and then we could
either reinvest that or we could buy
real estate which we want to buy real
estate we're just not exactly sure yet
when the perfect time to buy real estate
is the point is we're ready to strike
right like this money we should be able
to dump back onto the market if we
needed to the bonds hopefully sell the
bonds at a profit
if we needed to or we just wait for them
to expire and roll off which is fine
because they're all short term you know
a few months out uh to a year out you
know some of them a little bit more some
of them a little less uh we can just
wait for them to roll off and we don't
have any Market risk that way that's
really cool and let me just clarify how
that works if you buy a bond today that
has a four percent yield and it's due in
October 2023 and you pay a thousand
dollars for that bond that thousand
dollars can fluctuate in value it could
be worth eleven hundred dollars one day
it could be worth nine hundred dollars
one day doesn't matter though because if
you hold it to maturity that market risk
goes away you get a thousand dollars
back plus your yield basically I'm
oversimplifying because bonds are bought
at a discount and so you're you get a
thousand dollars back but that
encompasses already the premium that
you've I'm oversimplified but that's
roughly how it works and so that makes
our monthly cash cash flow roughly no
guarantees things could change about
fifty thousand dollars a month as we're
just waiting for uh the market to uh to
fall in real estate which it already is
Moody's is expecting home prices to fall
15 they've already fallen six to ten
percent uh not only that but I think
Moody's is wrong I think home prices are
going to fall 15 to 25 percent the
longer rates stay high the more pain
we're going to have we're starting to
see I mean obviously 31 declines in year
over year sales volume we're seeing
listing cancellation Skyrocket price
drop Skyrocket it's just when we get to
March or April we're gonna see
year-over-year numbers for real estate
and I think every headline on newspapers
is going to be year over year home price
is negative and that's going to create a
lot of fear for housing so I think we're
in a safe spot to be patient uh not only
because we're literally farming yield
but our burn for a corporation for a
company is extremely low low extremely
low I mean this is there's like no burn
okay and and I want to be clear the
reason we can do this is because uh
myself and Lauren uh the board and and
some core individuals aren't actually
expected to get any compensation until
after this company IPOs so we'll at some
point get some kind of stock options and
we expect those to essentially be locked
up or not really vest until after IPO we
may never even IPO but but that's my
goal is to IPO
and uh and and then even after IPO we
don't want to just be able to let people
with stock options dump at IPO because I
think that's the wrong way to run a
business so there should be some sort of
strict block-ups where it takes like
four or five years to be able to fully
sell if somebody was even fully inclined
to sell they might not want to sell I I
don't think I would sell all my shares
like I I love this like this is this is
my baby this is this is my dream so I'm
really really excited about this
so uh super low monthly burn
uh the stock the future stock options
obviously helps with that oh but what
also helps is that I've got these other
businesses right so I'm able to take uh
accountants or staff and have them work
on my other businesses while house hack
is not really doing much right now other
than raising money so for example we
have four construction workers they're
employed by another business of mine in
the future when it's time to start doing
our in-house Property Management all I
have to do is go okay you're done over
there whoop now you're on house hack
payroll when we're actually operating
right and that keeps our cash flow low
to basically uh well that keeps our cash
burn low very very low while we sit
around and wait and in the meantime
we're yield farming which is freaking
awesome uh and so we're very very very
very excited about that obviously uh
your incentive to invest in house hacks
sooner is your ability to get extra
bonus warrants you can learn more about
that at househack.com or watch the
househack playlist you can see that
playlist by going to metcaven.com Links
there's a link for the house hack
playlist uh or just go to househack.com
you should see the playlist there or the
videos there
if you have any questions you can always
email us at IR househack.com you could
leave a comment down below is another
option but uh yeah I'm excited stay
tuned for the reggae audit I think
that's going to be done in a week or two
it's been going for like three weeks now
uh the Auditors have everything it's
really it seems like it's going great
and I'm very excited about that audit
because then we put this entire company
in front of the SEC
and uh we'll we'll get to see what kind
of comments the SEC has for us they're
pretty scrutinizing about real estate
which I actually think is a good thing
for investors uh you know a lot of
people are like oh I don't like the SEC
I actually think a lot of what they do
is is needed I think it's uh it's
wonderful so I'm optimistic uh and I'm
very excited about about just the
opportunities we have ahead of us so I I
couldn't be more excited to buy real
estate in the future also I wanted to
clarify uh and I don't know if I I like
how hard I want to commit to this but
I'm pretty committed to this idea Lauren
and I we have just two uh development
projects left and what we're thinking
about doing is selling those and then
Lauren and I personally will never have
rental property uh tentatively again
again I I'm not like 100 clear on that
commitment level
so that could change but this is a
conversation Lauren and I were having
we're like why would we personally want
any tenants we don't want any househack
investor to think that like oh we're
scooping up deals before house hack
we're just gonna let the tenants be at
house hack and that's where all of our
real estate exposure uh could eventually
be so uh you know with the exception of
like a personal residence and stuff like
that
um but yeah we're very excited so this
is uh this is a full little update here
uh ballpark numbers obviously everything
subject to change read the solicitation
at househack.com
and uh super excited to have you here
watching and supporting the channel and
supporting the Endeavor it's gonna be
fun thanks so much folks and we'll see
in the next one
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