Climbing SOLO with Alex Honnold **INSANE EXPERIENCE**

so Alex Honnold probably is the only climber that needs no introduction making a video with him

has been on the on my list ever since i started this channel and um the original plan was to go

and uh just meet him close to las vegas where he lives and make a bouldering video but the night

before i got a message from him and uh he asked me if i wanted to go soloing instead and i was

very hesitant at first but after a lot of back and forth i decided to at least go and check it out

so um that's what we did i was actually afraid of reaching out to you because i thought you

would think that my videos were silly and you didn't want to be in no i didn't know i thought

i texted you a few months ago so because i watched one of your videos and i was like this is awesome

i know it's really cool so after that that's when i was like oh next time i go to the u.s

i'm going to reach out to him yeah i didn't know about this until yesterday so it's kind of like

just mentally preparing yourself for it because i was thinking we were going like sport climbing or

bulging or something totally and then all of a sudden you sent me like a text message of this

like 200 meter blank looking wall you know i was like man you always go to gyms with people

and you can always go sport clown with people but this is something that yeah that is

certain i don't want to say unique to me but very few people will take you on an adventure like this

and i was like this is this would be cool yeah yeah i mean soloing with alexander

hold up we're gonna cut across this way the thing is so we're here in vegas and the gyms

are not amazing they're pretty scrappy and especially because you do so much gym content

i was like oh i feel bad taking you to a mediocre gym really the main thing is that i feel like if

you're coming to a beautiful place like this you may as well experience the beautiful place yeah

and i think what really makes red rock special is being able to scramble in the mountains so we're

going to do a little scrambling in the mountains we'll see how it goes and i've climbed this route

a lot and some of my friends have climbed it yeah and i just feel very confident that of all

the things you could do here you'll feel good on this not to say that you'll feel great but if you

feel bad on this you'd feel worse on everything else okay so it's like you know we're taking you

to the best possible thing to solo okay and if if this isn't the one for you then you know what you

probably shouldn't be showing you okay yeah yeah exactly yeah because the thing is the last time we

climbed together you soloed an 8a like yeah but that was like a 12 meter high i know i know

but it shows that you're physically capable of that and it shows that

you have the psychological ability if you try i don't know we'll see it might be really scary

but we'll just go up and see i might end up down climbing the whole thing you know yeah but then

that's fine too because the thing is we can hike to the summit and either way we will have gotten

to this really cool summit red rock you'll see all the walls you'll have a nice experience

so that's the wall right yeah so that's the beginning

of the brownstone wall and where we're going is a little further right but we're going to go up this

canyon and around to the right it's the one of the multi pitches that's the most like gym climbing

oh that's nice and it's very very well trafficked like people climb it all the

time so you know the holds are solid because like big guys are pulling on it all the time

okay there's uh the third pitch of it so about 100 meters off the ground there's a section

that if you if you're not impressed i'll give you double your money back it's like it's it's

insane so these are the shoes that i'm gonna use they're like super soft but uh i mean i didn't

know that i was gonna solo on this trip so that's why i didn't bring anything stiffer but

you think it'll be all right they will definitely be fine okay so who do you normally climb with

here yeah well actually most of the climbing i do in red rock i do by myself probably because

it's mostly easy moderate like easy soloing i don't have that many go-to partners anymore

like a lot of my old friends and partners that i used to do things in yosemite with have now

either passed or retired or you know like have kids moved away and i'm just getting older you know

it's like i'm just slightly out of touch with and probably people are intimidated

uh to reach out to you like uh it's like a really hot girl you know at school

yeah that's probably part of it in the same way that i was always afraid to talk to Tommy and then

when i finally did for years i had friends telling me like you should call me Tommy i

was like impossible he's too good and then i finally climbed to tommy and i was like this

is so great this is the route that we're going to climb the one behind us yep right now there's some

people climbing it yeah you can see two parties on the wall right now what do you think their

reaction will be though when we climb past them oh it depends in general i think that the less

experienced somebody is when you pass them the more dramatic it all feels because definitely

if you pass somebody who's never climbed before they're like oh my god you're gonna ...

whereas if you pass you know veteran old-school climbers there's like oh cool have a good time

yeah but no i definitely have past people who freak out and then and then some people who are

just totally like oh yeah i have a good day like totally relaxed don't people get angry sometimes

not angry but i've had a couple people be like you can't pass and you're kind of like what am

i going to do like hang below you the whole rest of the day you're like obviously i'm gonna pass

so what's the strategy are you gonna climb first and then i follow you normally if you don't feel

comfortable i don't want to go right below you just yeah if you fall off and i want to ... but

being just to the side is is fine it's better for the person who feels less comfortable to go

at their own pace on their own terms right you know like i don't want to be pushing you to do

anything you should just like do anything you feel good about if you don't feel good spend as long as

you want yeah you know it's like it's all about what you feel comfortable with it's really up to

you i mean it is solar yeah it's like it's it's on you but you just think like if those random people

can climb it how hard can it be right that's the spirit yeah yeah are they Norway's best climber

no like get up there and show them i think i would feel so much more comfortable if i already tried

it once with a with a rope yeah that's the thing you know i don't know what i'm going

to like i don't i have no idea how this is going to feel you know i mean there's so many times

in climbing when you go with a partner you trust your partner you just relax and just

go with the flow and it'll all be fine that's what i feel like i'm doing here yeah yeah exactly you

just go with the flow yeah see what happens yeah right i just remember watching you solar 8a and

i was like that looked very easy yeah you know i was scared but yeah yeah and also that didn't

there was no potential of ..... there oh there definitely is if you fall 12 meters on your head

you're definitely gonna ... maybe yeah i do think it looks a little bit intimidating especially

where they are now it looks a little bit steeper and i can also see the person is like going

like up and down a little bit he's not kind of hesitant and they have a rope i think definitely

i'm a little bit intimidated by the exposure when it feels like it's straight down like a 150 meters

it feels more real even though it's totally irrational you know i think the important

thing for solaring something like this is not to think about whether it's going to get easier or

harder or think about what's to come or what you've already done it's just like one move

at a time be like this move is easy this move is easy this move is easy not think about the

like 150 meters below or the like how far you have to go to the top yeah it's like

i know that every single move on this route is very easy for you so as long as you can

just think of it as one move at a time like there aren't any moves where you have to like

jump sideways to something i mean like it's all over i hope not yeah well it's just like

it's not gym climbing you know this is all very stable like three points of contact

this is how you coach somebody into free so long let's just hope we don't kill magnus yeah i just

i think i think you can do it and i think if you do it'll be a life experience and you'll be like

that is amazing yeah and of all the things that you could do in red rock like i think this is one

that will feel good yeah you know i mean like it's not crack climbing there's nothing weird about it

it's like yeah i just don't want to ... you know no that's the main thing of course i don't want to

see you guys i just uh yeah i don't think this is your day though yeah i don't think so either but

even if there's like a five percent chance there's definitely not a five percent chance i give you

less than one oh my gosh did you grab this hold and then i think there's another little part up

there that's kind of like this it's kind of the whitish part okay yeah try going up to basically

where i was and then climb back down like slowly and gently this is like free solar camp

yeah i think with the big soft shoes that actually feel nice just like pasting it against yeah things

like that like kind of volumes yeah you're doing great you already feel comfortable smearing on

things so it's like that's kind of the most important thing norway's best climbers freestyling

oh [ __ ] no hands yeah oh damn damn he's got no hands is that the handhold when

you standing like this yeah something like that just you know be careful up there yeah

this was exactly my plan the thing i was like Magnus is a really good

climber he'll be fine if he can just get past the scariness it'll be fine

we'll see what happens it's very exciting you know if it was easier it would be a piece of cake it

was a little bit harder i would not do it at all exactly this is right in the middle of the sweets

dude yeah you know i was like you climbed i know this will be fine yeah i'm going like back and

forth in my head oh i think we should at least do the first pitch together and like see yeah

of course yeah but the thing is if you get to there then you have that amazing black stuff above

and you're like well you may as well do the really good ones because they're so good and also i want

to say by the way that i don't recommend anyone else trying this don't try this at home this is

not something that i want to start doing but i feel like it's going to be it's like such a cool

experience you know being here with Alex i feel like at least i have to try you know hi Magnus

i'm terrified that's okay yeah we're just gonna climb this little tiny mountain and

you look up there and there's random people who have never climbed before their way up

there so how hard can it be well that's the thing we're climbing without any ropes so

no god has you on top rope god has been on top yeah yeah you're in his hands with the capital age

good thing I have been training with a baby like it's like precious cargo on the side

because the backpack sort of like forces it in the way more yeah okay Magnus is starting some other

folks just showed up to rock on good times we're all gonna party up here together don't worry it's

all safer than it looks these guys are like what the [ __ ] no you you went past us in Squamish

before when it was wet out oh yeah which uh on which route uh it was on your birthday weekend

yeah cool that's a long time ago yeah that was yeah that was that's seven years ago oh

man well the whole covet experience doesn't count oh yeah okay so it's only five years ago exactly

okay how are we feeling magnus we're feeling good up and you've made it here

but the next part it looks pretty steep let it in relax i'm also watching you with the camera

does that make it more scary or less scary so far less scary actually yeah okay cool so just seeing

how casual you are makes you a little bit better look i'm actually holding on now because the

the whole holding the camera steady thing i was like this is actually throwing me

off balance in a weird way yeah but i'm just standing on the side of a cliff so

so how are we going to do this are you going to go i know i think you should do

a couple more moves across this thing and then i'll just go up higher you again okay

yeah magnus looking comfortable composed oh yeah a really nice shot with a rainbow wall behind you

yeah yeah you look very very handsome thank you yeah you know okay i'm going to stop the

commentary behind the camera oh yeah that's a lot i think yes

this is Magnus Midtbø freestyling honestly making it look really nice just trying to be

very careful you know yeah no aren't we all i'm i'm hanging on i can't even

show the camera what i'm holding on to because the camera strap is wrapped around me

i'm all tangled up but i am standing on some good footholds

you know i didn't tell my girlfriend what i was doing today when i told her that i was freestyling

with you she would be terrified we'll just send her a picture of him later she'll be psyched

do you think she'll be impressed i think she will be impressed but also slightly terrified and

i think from now on whenever i say that i'm going to the u.s or doing something she'll be like sure

but you're not freestyling right it's not it's not going to the u.s anytime you come with me she'll

be like wait what are you doing just tell her you were at the titty bar yeah titty bars in vegas

that's a good idea from our friends at the base just tell her you're at the strip club all night

okay okay how are you feeling so far i feel calm and collected so that's nice i just didn't know

how i would react kind of yeah yeah exactly i mean that's the thing with the unknown is the

unknown is always scary i think this next little part above might be one of the only other sort of

hard parts for you just because we go through this white section and it's like a little bit steep but

realistically it'll be just like what you just did okay so we'll see how it feels yeah cool

right here magnus is going to come over and climb this crack and i just asked if he stole

norway's best climber and he doesn't compete anymore so i guess he's technically not then he

said that he's on sighted 8c+ which is crazy because that's harder than I climb basically

i've climbed like a couple 8c+ but to on sight 8c+ you're like geez louise that's really

hard a while back though oh my goodness no way is there a crack here yeah yeah it's a finger crack

no it'll feel fine because you just walk your feet up there's still jugs on the side

you don't have to climb the crack Pete Whitaker is going to be so proud of you

but no think of this as a down pulling pockets don't think of it as a crack

because you see it constricts in places yeah so just make big moves between the constructions

this is kind of scary though yeah yeah

it's okay just build your feet like take your time find the good pockets

yeah nice

see like just yeah to see like that edge it's still a good edge yeah like it's great

i don't trust it yeah but you can that's like bomber

nice his minus bit mode notice how to freaking crack climb

you see there's a big face hold out to the right that you might like also

a big ear thing no the one down down below that this yes i'm gonna get your fingers into

and then you see the big feet up here where my feet are yeah i'm gonna move out of your way

here in a second here i'll kill the video magnus is getting slightly stressed but he's doing great

no no these

okay i'm recording again okay this is magnus about to do

one of the hardest parts see how it's slightly steeper but there's this incredible jug

yeah so stick stick to the big holes going straight up a little further

and then you'll step over when you need to it's funny i'm looking at magnus through the lens or

through the viewfinder but realistically i need to look around the camera so i can actually see what

you're climbing is nothing amazing yes and then grab that one out to the right it's incredible

yeah that's a freaking hold huh that's nice though

these are my feet his magnus chilling on big jugs and then make a big move up to this next uh hold

straight up there like come up to the left of me and i'll have to get out of your way in a second

okay i'm climbing while still no i'm not oh wait oh yeah

yeah Magnus okay i think that was maybe the hardest high up

yeah we're getting there yeah this part just raise your feet and then make like big moves

in between the good holds don't think of it as jamming as much as just like moving between edges

for anybody watching this later i apologize the camera moves so much but i would love to see you

freestyle 5.9 while holding a camera more stable like for all the haters on youtube you try doing

this something tells me they're not going to be a lot of haters who are like i could do that better

i don't think there's going to be a lot of haters yeah people are going to be like just people

saying it's stupid yeah yeah of course i think more people say this is stupid in Europe than

i don't know actually in general freestyling is sort of a weirdly polarizing thing where

a lot of people say it's stupid but the thing is it is really fun sometimes

same thing like raise the feet and kind of like big moves on good holds

really nice nice gentle movements okay i try to keep like three points on it yeah all times

exactly you want to stay stable and balanced with like three points on i'm

almost a little bit right now i've got no points on look i took my other hand hanging out i'm

actually a little bit worried about you yeah i'm gonna turn off the camera here and keep climbing

we're about to get into the really really good black rock yeah it's not that i need longer arms

a wider lens i don't really know but it's just not that easy to film freestyling by yourself

i thought the crack bit was a little bit scarier to be honest yeah cool

but uh but you did great and yeah and you know honestly i didn't remember that was on the route

at all yeah but uh do you need to pop your shoes off at all how do you feel yeah i think

yeah so let's pop them off right here is the perfect place so how many pitches have we done

now we just did two to here and then there two above and then i think they're two more to the

top from there i think it's six total then notice the Magnus is still holding on and relax relaxed

yeah relaxed yeah i know so i'm really happy that i did this thank you for oh wait wait wait because

you're doing great it looks beautiful and the next two pitches are the are the part

of the route that's most classic iconic it's beautiful i mean what a nice route what a nice day

really nice day oh you look can you see the stratosphere and like the strip you see all the

buildings like that's the strip and the casinos in Las Vegas down there isn't it crazy that you

could you know i mean you can see these casinos right over there and it feels like we're in the

middle of nowhere we're in like wilderness it feels pretty intense two completely different

worlds i feel yeah it's like the airport is right there yeah you know and yet we're like up in the

middle of nowhere having a full-on experience yeah it's pretty cool this is why i love Vegas

and honestly this is one of the things i love about the US is like this sense of wilderness it's

really hard to get this wilderness in Europe in the same way yeah but cool let's uh let's carry on

so just above magnus here is where the rock transitions from the sort of white sandstone

into the really dark varnish sandstone and this black rock is incredibly good this is the third

pitch right yeah yeah i think so i mean depends how you do them i guess but this is basically

the third pitch and it's this is the beginning of the money this is where you start climbing stuff

that you're like this is insanely cool like look at this black varnish above you yeah it's really

nice the rock is really hot still yeah maybe but that's why you have a lot of chalk yeah

you can see my hat in the shadow see magnus just looking composed

cool as a cucumber as you say in english yeah

well maybe not totally cool maybe just like maybe like sunburn kind of stress

yeah definitely sunburn at least yeah

yeah i think with basically the whole rest of the route of all this blackrock

if you take your time and you find the holds that you want you're always going to be happy

because like there's always something incredible just like take your time find them

yeah okay wait how are we feeling i'm feeling a little bit more stressed i

feel like now it's like point of no return you know i don't can't down climb this on

the other hand you're already halfway so now you can just keep going to the top

yeah looking so cool yeah i'm a little bit more nervous than i look i think yeah i know always

always but you know but i'm stressed out man yeah yeah exactly are you doing great yeah here we go

this rock feels a little bit slippery yeah it is very slippery but it's very solid

so it's a bit of a trade-off where it's like more slick but at least you know that it can't break

and that it's like very secure yeah

in some ways the slipperiness just forces you to be intentional about which parts you grab

you know you have to choose like okay i'm going to grab this hold instead of just kind of trusting

friction and some of the other parts you can just like put your foot anywhere and it'll just

should i follow you up no i think you should follow the chalk i kind of just came over and

i'm an artist over here i'm just getting the cool shot you know but

just holding on to this little hole we're looking up the wall

look at this nice texture you could be like a fashion model right now with this

kind of a cool shot oh there's a perfect my shadow holding the camera looking at magnus

and that part down there was a little bit intense for me to be honest oh yeah interesting

that's funny i really thought this part would be like way more relaxed for you because it's

it was just so slippery i didn't know where to go and i was like kind of in a bad position totally

so yeah it's important not to let that stuff get get away from you you know like if you get into

a position you don't like like it's easier than let that like spiral out of control it's like oh

now i'm really scared or you can be like you know what i'm gonna move back two moves i'm gonna find

a different position i'm gonna go a different way you know like try to keep it under control

Magnus is relaxed yeah pop your shoes it really helps having you above me though because then you

know i know it goes and just like talking to me it really helps yeah i didn't think it would help

i thought it maybe just distract me more no it's normally better because it just makes it all more

relaxed yeah like i'm here with somebody we're having a good time it's a chill yeah actually

if i was up here on my own i wouldn't no no yeah it'd be way too scary yeah no it's totally true

but you know look we have one more long pitch of black rock and then we get into

the more mixed stuff at the top pretty sure we just managed to turn on the gopro

all right magnus is down there filming with the gopro so you can get some cool pov footage

i mean this is a nice experience and everything but i'm never doing this again

a couple of spots down there i felt a little bit uncomfortable a little stressed at some point i

had like one good foothold and one good handhold and i was like if either of these break i'm gone

yeah so that's kind of but that was just for a brief flick but part of that is is uh

getting more comfortable with the rock yeah because when you really trust this rock

i mean you know there are places here that you shouldn't trust but this is a route where you can

basically trust all the holds i wonder if i can actually climb while i film i don't do that please

i'm like i'm trying i'm trying damn it

bam i made one move basically because i'm a particularly easy spot with really good holds

i don't think people have seen me climb like this on my channel because like i usually i'm

very dynamic and stuff yeah like now i'm so slow and i chalk even more than usual but you come with

a shirt on that's why you're so slow now i know yeah things when you climb with a shirt you just

can't really do the hard things yeah it's pretty exposed from a few i mean kind of but we can both

enter no hands i mean my hand is on only because i'm holding a camera and leaning back and doing

all kinds of stuff no Magnus' hand is on because he is fearing for his life yeah i can take em off oh

look at that see look at that you're relaxed i don't want to take any unnecessary risk you know

but is that really unnecessary risk i mean you're basically standing here relaxed i do think though

that apart from those like two places that i was a little bit scared it's it's pretty safe because

when you're at like our level physically i i yeah yeah it's not like you're getting fatigued it's

not like any of the moves are hard so it's like you would have to faint or something but that's

the thing i'm afraid of you know just because i'm not used to this yeah better freak out but if you

faint while driving you'll probably ... too yeah exactly there's a lot of yeah a lot of times in

life where if you just fall over you'll ... yeah waiting for the subway yeah exactly that would

be terrible for me it feels like 30 seconds ago that we were at the bottom yeah totally yeah like

you're fully present the entire time yeah i mean that's i think that's really the appeal

of freestyling it's like they're not that many things in life that make you that present yeah

you know it's like meditation or yoga or whatever else but i probably look pretty stupid right now

by the way you like a little shoot with the gopro it's fine i mean you're staying all

relaxed on the side of the cliff challenge anyone else on your channel to look more cool i mean i'm

not going to jinx it but this was a very fun experience yeah well let's finish the route

let's see what happens here i'm going to go past again isn't this upper part

like way more chill though yeah i just hope it continues like this otherwise you might have to

call a rescue you're falling victim to the like don't think about what's ahead or behind or

anything just yeah each move in front of you you're like here's another easy move

a little bit more of a move where i just was but okay like crazy to stand up to the next

i will say it was definitely the right call for me to bring uh my climbing shoes

to the end of black

i'm just a little bit stuck right here

yep

i think anytime you feel like you get stuck in a spot

just never force it you know like always just be patient and like figure it out

because i think it's easy to get a little panicky and be like oh god and then like

do some crazy move but you just don't want to commit to something that you don't want to do

okay nice nice keep cruising straight up there but um

i had

there's a loose hold

there was a loose hold back here

uh no it's actually actually loose but it was very loose so i was able to see it

all right Magnus is finishing up the last of this black wall

i'm on the first really nice ledge just hanging out magnus has about 20 meters

of hard climbing to go or no i guess this is more like 10 meters of hardcore to go

actually i don't know if you can call this hard climbing but

it's not hard climbing yeah real climbing engaging climbing there's a pretty constant wind up here

it's pretty cold wind actually where everyone thinks that vegas is the desert and you know

the casinos but when you're up in the mountains here there's cold wind a lot of the time

i guess not nearly as cold as Norway but almost here

this better get a lot of views alex well it's going to be up to how well you edited huh yeah

i'm going to put your future kid through college with youtube videos you know

that's one thing i've never done is be a youtuber maybe you should try it maybe

i don't think so i just don't i don't really like cameras i don't like dealing

oh my goodness it's so nice to be up here yeah take your shoes off i think so now you have the

giant gopro mark on your forehead yeah yeah it's like you have a gopro logo like brandon i honestly

don't care about anything at this point just care about surviving like basically i'll only take

somebody freesyling for the first time if they climb you know 5.15 or V15 okay you know like basically

if somebody's because the thing is at a certain level if you're an incredible climber you can

just deal on stuff like this yeah you know i mean like you can't red point 9a - 9b without like having

the tools to climb this type of easy terrain comfortably but you did have to convince me

yeah not like that hard no not that hard because the thing is what i convinced you is just to

come out and check it out because the thing is if you've gotten to the base and you were like

there was no way then we would have just walked around we would have had a hike we would have

talked about it i was hesitant to be honest yeah also you notice that you're still holding on with

one hand even though you're just sitting there eating a snack people ask you questions like how

many climbs do you do and like like what do you do to train and it's like hard to convey just how

much you how much time you can spend out before you feel comfortable like this yeah like this

isn't something where you like train in the gym three or four times and you're like okay i'm ready

this is like you spend your whole life like playing around in the mountains and scrambling

and like doing weird approaches and getting lost and figuring stuff out and climbing cliffs

yeah and then eventually you're like you know i feel pretty comfortable here because it does feel

it's like home sweet home and watching all the birds soar over there it's pretty cool

my shadow hi magnus he's climbing

you see this is much easier huh i'm definitely more relaxed now so you see this is the V1 boulder

problem the face right there yeah all right Magnus tackling the V1 boulder problem it makes

the climbing you're doing look more extreme by having a rad wall behind you yeah i'm falling over

so what is the next big thing for you alex my main project for the year is raising

my now two-month-old daughter yeah has that changed anything the fact that you have a kid

not so far i mean it's changed the way i spend my time it's changed how much sleep i get yeah

you know i'm a lot more tired yeah but um but no so far it hasn't changed my climbing

right but uh you know i wouldn't wouldn't be surprised if it does eventually or something but

but you know we'll see yeah how about this like for this type of easy scrambling though it's like

i'll just always love doing stuff like this yeah you know like i mean french i'd love to do this

kind of thing with a kid but wait to wait till they've had you know 10 or 15 years of experience

yeah and actually on one of my little hiking missions i broke a hole in a gully and like

tumbled down this gully and so yeah it was a little like whoa i kind of sprained both my wrists

like falling down this thing isn't that usually when accidents happen like when you least expect

it but how about freestyle the movie did you expect it to go to be as big as it was no because

that changed your life right yeah yeah freestyle i mean well i guess the film freestyle changed

my life in some ways and i'm way more well known but in other ways i'm like i'm here in red rock

trying to climb things as well as like i'm like i'm doing all the same stuff yeah like the last

time we climbed together was before freestyle and i was on a climbing trip trying to climb as well

as i could and now you come to see my house i'm still climbing as much as i can you know it's like

basically the same thing i remember you talking about it well you weren't sure if you were gonna

do it or not oh yeah yeah that's funny i wasn't uh i wasn't sure i was talking about it at that point

you know when people sign up for a marathon or something then you tell all your friends so that

you're actually gonna do it because otherwise it's too easy to back down yeah yeah exactly

and there's no backing down so the beauty of working on the film is that at least then you're

actually pretty committed yeah like okay well my friends are gonna make fun of me if i go do it

i don't think anyone would make fun of you if you didn't but you know what i mean yeah yeah i know

it's like it always helps to have some commitment that was uh more scary than i thought it would be

really yeah wow jesus congrats you didn't ... there's some points there that i was like

super scared and having Alex next to me that really helped me like without that

i would never i mean obviously i would never have tried it yeah

we did an hour and a half on the route that's not that bad that's not bad yeah i mean well

you know obviously it's not as fast but like for filming and sitting and talking you're like

it's not crazy as soon as i started i felt like i i felt like i didn't have i know that i had

a choice but i felt like i had no choice you know you didn't have a dream no i didn't have a choice

your whole youtube channel would make so much fun of you if you didn't i know but as you said

during the way like they can't really make fun of me because i don't think anyone else would have

done the same thing exactly yeah no one's going to be making fun because everyone's like oh i don't

want to do that no i didn't i i was 100% i mean i don't want to see you ... either i'm not going to

be like let's go out like let's see if magnus survives today that would be a terrible day i

go home to my wife and i'm like well i had kind of a weird day Magnus ... kind of a weird day