worse than feared
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there's fresh data out on the US economy
that might be even worse than what we
saw yesterday now in this video I want
to be realistic and straight up with you
I'm not trying to impute any bias or
emotion on this I just want to report
the data to you so you can make up your
own mind and at the end of the video
I'll even go through Warren Buffett's
letter which I thought was really cool
but honestly it doesn't make sense that
all of the headlines they see in the
mainstream Media or an X or whatever
have to do with people just
regurgitating pieces of Warren Buffett's
letter and complete ignorance for the
data that just came out that's actually
significantly more important now yeah
are there cool lessons in Buffett's
letter of course and we're going to
cover them but let's just get right into
this now this is a data set that uh was
released over the last uh 48 Hours uh it
was a data set that was an initial
release uh from the Bureau of Labor
Statistics on revisions uh quarterly
revisions uh the final revision won't be
out for another couple months but I want
you to see from Moody's uh in Standard
Charter what some of the takeaways are
are so far and uh I I just want to warn
you they're not good uh so look I I want
everybody to make money I want everybody
build wealth I want everybody to get
rich in the stock market I'm all for it
uh but we need to probably start paying
attention to this because it's getting
worse uh this comes after yesterday's
PMI data uh if you haven't seen that yet
just type into YouTube uh meet Kevin
this is very bad that was the the title
of yesterday's video we just go into
historical videos and see yesterday that
was that was already shock that was part
of the reason why the markets yesterday
sold down we a $2.7
trillion uh set of options expiring
yesterday the market lost $1
trillion in value yesterday poof gone
like that some people are blaming that
uh announcement about a potential
discovery of another covid virus in
China That's nonsense uh and the bit
hack I mean so far everything seems
pretty stable they're back to normal
operations so honestly their investors
help bail them out to cover what they
needed in terms of losses from that
ethereum hack but KnockOn would but
hopefully those two things are contained
you could also watch my video on that Co
virus this document is an Institutional
letter that I marked up discussing the
qcw changes now that does not sound
logical or anything understandable at
all in fact when you start reading it
sounds extremely complicated such as it
is a capital mistake to theorize before
one has the data the just relased Q3
2024 quarterly census of employment and
wages points to an increasing
overestimate of employment by non-farm
payrolls even after recent Benchmark
revisions okay none of this sounds like
English so let's just make this
extremely simple basically when the
Bureau of Labor Statistics or as some
like to say the U Bureau of uh
uh when uh they put together an
estimate on a monthly basis of
nonfarm payrolls what they're really
doing by the first Friday Friday of
every month is trying to make an
estimate for the entire 30 days before
that using a small sample of the United
States and what they do is they take
this little slice over here and they say
okay how many people over here got jobs
lost jobs how many businesses were
created how many businesses were
shuttered uh and this sample right here
they then extrapolate to the entire
month the problem is they try to do that
all with within the first you know s
days let's give them the benefit of the
doubt and say the Friday lands on the
seventh day of the month they tried to
do that all within the first seven days
best case scenario your first five
business days of the very next month
this leads to some really crazy over or
underestimating and this is why we come
back with these quarterly census
revisions and we make modifications and
we say you know what all right all right
let's just get rid of all of this right
here uh and it's instead of using any
kind of estimates of what's going on why
don't we just look at the data and see
hey U now that we have payroll data and
tax return data and stuff uh you know
payroll reports and that why don't we
fill in the actual data uh and how does
that actual data compare to what we
originally estimated well when times are
good this works totally fine because
things are much more predictable but
when there's uncertainty in markets and
when things are rapidly changing
then it's a lot harder to figure out
what's actually going on and how
representative a sample is of everything
that's going on in the United States so
let's try to explain this in English
right here uh in English when we look at
this actual document we'll see this
section right here we see that between
September 2023 and September
2024 non-farm payroll originally told us
we were generating 164,000 jobs per
month but the reality is we actually
only created 108,000 jobs so in other
words non-farm payroll is telling us
that everything is fine this is sort of
your usual average expansion level of
job gains somewhere between 160 to
180,000 per month the problem is once
you start knocking on the door of about
50 to 990,000 call it 50k in this case
this is your precursor to a recession
and what the qcw levels are telling us
is that we are only slightly closer to
fine than we are closer to recession
however we have a Federal Reserve that
is paying attention to this level now
jome Powell does pay attention to the
qcw numbers as well and this is why I
think Jerome Powell and the FED have
removed their forward guidance they
don't want to give us forward guidance
because they're actually starting to see
that things things are deteriorating on
the underlying but here's the problem
the FED runs into the FED does not want
a recession or a crash or some kind of
disaster so if the forward guidance is
going to be bad they'd rather just shut
up and tell you nothing and just say
that everything is fine right now
because I guarantee you the day Jerome
Powell comes out and says yeah things
are bad he's going straight down this is
what we saw after January of
2022 when Jerome PA said yeah it's going
to be bad and the market sold off for
nine straight months towards the end of
2022 this is challenging so when the FED
has positive forward guidance to give
wow yeah inflation's going to be
transitory inflation's going down
housing inflation is going to contribute
to inflation going down everything's
going great according to plan positive
forward guidance they'll give it to you
all day long as soon as the forward
guidance turns negative guess what you
no longer get forward guid because it
would just self- fulfill the problem so
this data is better because it actually
says that we are creating substantially
fewer jobs take a look at this just
released qcw data show much slower job
creation than the non-farm payroll have
estimated over last year through
September this doesn't even account for
October November December where we had
probably some uh Trump enthusiasm
leading to some hiring but you know
what's that going to mean when we get
revisions for that period of time
especially through January February
March and April now non far payroll may
have overestimated average
month-over-month job creation by 50%
between October 23 and October
24 markets in the FED may have perceived
the labor market to be more robust than
it is in reality okay the qcw data point
to a far sharper deterioration in
employment growth then suggested by
non-farm payroll or the move in the
unemployment rate which is measured by
the household survey part of the
non-farm payroll as
well at least it suggests the FED
decisions and asset market pricing are
based on imperfect indicators this may
be because of the basically the sampling
the birth death ratio for you know how
jobs are counted into
samples that part is more simply
explained by the little drawing that I
made there otherwise it gets too
complicated so then I thought okay well
what are other institutions saying what
is uh let's say like a Bank of America
or Goldman Sachs saying about jobs and
then of course we'll get to the Bor and
Buffett portion uh well let's take a
look at this letter because this is a
letter here from aollo and then I want
to get into the B OFA one so apulo
letter is somewhat appalling take a look
at this the consensus expects that total
doze related job cuts to be around
300,000 jobs which given that 5 million
people change their jobs every single
month that might not be that big of a
deal but Studies have shown that for
every federal employee there are two
contractors as a result it's possible
that 300,000 federal job layoffs could
actually be closer to 1 million job
layoffs any increase in layoffs will
push jobless claims higher over the
coming weeks and such a rise in the
unemployment rate is likely to be a
consequence and would then lead to
movements potentially in rates equities
and credit spreads so if our credit
spreads haven't really seen any kind of
movements but usually when you see job
uncertainty you start seeing Capital
expenditures decline now why does that
matter well because a lot of our economy
right now seems to be based on this sort
of Boom in artificial intelligence
spending and artificial intelligence
enthusiasm and that's fantastic as long
as it continues but there are already
rumors circulating that following the
Deep seek sort of poison pill if you
will uh maybe and these are just rumors
right now maybe we could be getting to
the beginning of a Slowdown in some of
the r rid capex expenditures now I'm
going to show you this it's a rumor and
then I want to show you the Bank of
America piece but I think the rumor is
worth
explaining before I do though I want to
make sure that we know something very
very clear about sort of my thesis here
and I made this very very clear day
one on day one of the deep seek
announcement I said you're not going to
see short-term cuts to capex no company
wants to be the company that's implying
that they're panicking because of some
Chinese product so expect it to take 6
to 12 months to actually see Capital
expenditures either slow for servers or
chips or get repositioned to something
else and what have we noticed over the
past few weeks well we've noticed Satya
nadela from Microsoft start planting
some seeds that hey we don't want to
oversupply artificial intelligence huh
okay this is interesting why would he
say that uh and I'll show you that clip
and then we've also seen Mark Zuckerberg
all of a sudden get really excited about
humanoid robotics sure that could be a
way of catching up to Elon Musk but it
could also be a sign of yeah we're not
we're not uh stepping back on our
Capital expenditures we're we're just
we're just spending up something else of
course interesting listen to that's the
wrong button listen to SAA nadela
yourself and see what you think
ah well you know it would be useful
Kevin if you actually set the audio
output to something everyone can hear
aiming some AGI Milestone that's just
nonsensical Benchmark hacking to me the
real Benchmark is is the world growing
right at 10% the world economy is 100
trillion or something the world grew at
10% that's like extra 10 trillion uh in
value produced every single year if that
is the case it seems like 80 billion is
a lot of money um shouldn't you be doing
like 800 billion if you if you really
think in a couple of years we could be
really growing the world economy at this
rate and the key bottleneck would be do
you have the compute necessary to deploy
these AIS to do all this work the
classic supply side is oh let me build
it and they'll come I mean that's an
argument and you know after all we've
done that we've taken enough risk uh to
go do it but at some point the supply
and demand have to map you know you can
go off rails completely when you're like
all hyping yourself with all the supply
side versus really understanding how to
translate that into real value to
customers and you're not going to say oh
they have to symmetrically meet at any
given point in time but you need to have
existence proof that you are able to
Parlay yesterday's let's call it capital
into today's uh demand so that in other
words can we actually prove a return on
our investments and maybe before we keep
blowing money we should make sure that
the money we've already spent is
actually making us money
this is weird and this interview comes
you know within four weeks of the deep
seek announcement and again I I
understand there are a lot of people who
say
but I just learned about javon's
principle or paradx and it says that
when something becomes more efficient
more people are going to use it yeah
listen I agree that more people are
going to use AI over time deep research
tools which are really just prompting
for you over and over and over again
they're great and they're going to lead
to more use that's fine I I believe that
I believe that AI agents will lead to
more usage the question is a will they
lead to more actual revenue for
companies or does this just become the
new commoditize standard uh and
B if the chips are 100x more efficient
but our output is going up by 2x then
yes we are 2 Xing how much artificial
intelligence we are using but the
infrastructure needs that we have are
actually 50 times smaller so in other
words there is a substantial risk of
oversupplying the infrastructure you
know that javon's Paradox comes from
this idea of uh uh you know oh my gosh
well if engines are more efficient then
we're going to need less coal okay well
if the people who are claiming that
javon's principle will lead to this
NeverEnding AI chip spending boom then
if you want to appli that to the the the
good old you know steam engine powered
by coal back in the day you could just
say all right we have 100,000 tons of
coal oh my gosh a more efficient steam
engine Chon's Paradox quick instead of
needing 100,000 lb of coal we need 1
billion PBS of
coal there's still a mismatch between
the supply and the demand and that's
exactly what Saadia is now planting the
seed with which is interesting because
it's coming just at the same time as
labor revisions are showing us things
that people who have been paying
attention very closely have already been
watching for many months many months now
certainly since last July uh these
problems have really started to become
more evident but also I want you to see
this you know yesterday uh Tom Lee was
on CNBC doing the usual oh people are
full of cash everybody's got all the
cash in the world oh all the dips are
going to get bought okay I mean I
haven't never heard anything else from
Tom Le but uh you know I'm still waiting
for um the all-time highs and small caps
but anyway what do we have here this is
Bank of America's flow show which
indicates that at Bank of America their
customers uh who manage their assets
with them only have about 10.9% of their
Assets in cash they're actually
63.5% exposed to stocks which is the
highest allocation since March of 2022
basically the peak following you know uh
December of 2021 but it took four months
for people to realize oh crap the
Market's actually going down
we have now seen the biggest inflow into
treasuries in 6 weeks we' have seen the
biggest outflow out of tech uh in in
what is this biggest 3-we outflow on
record ever uh
interesting we've also seen that uh
investors are still quite bullish but
there's a slump in cash as a percentage
of assets under management just 3.5% on
average this is different from the
investors over at uh Bank of America
apparently who are about 10% in cash uh
but but these numbers don't necessarily
agree with what we're seeing some other
folks say in fact something else to
consider here is what Bank of America
calls the bull disruption they think
that there is a potential risk of an
unanticipated slowdown in growth on
housing the Tailwinds of a wealth effect
job growth tailing off inflation nagging
consumer confidence US Government
heading into recession basically the DC
recession uh and and basically the
things that were supporting spending
such as a us uh the US government
exploding its discretionary spending by
65% over the last 5 years that going
away yes while it may go to less waste
also fuels less of the
economy so anyway a
Slowdown this slowdown is starting to be
flagged by outperformance of bond
sensitives and defensive stocks
interesting Now by itself government
spending only works out to somewhere
around 7% of GDP but when you consider
the multiplier effect of wasteful
government spending or just government
spending in general you tend to have
this large multiplier of like 5x and so
people regularly argue that government
spending is responsible for somewhere
around 35 to 48% of GDP because of the
downstream effects and so this is where
there's this question of if there's a
recession in Washington DC uh you know
assuming unchanged Trump taxation uh you
know of course Trump wants tax cuts then
we're probably going to be in a
situation of more uh uh government
deficit not less that's because at the
same time that yeah you're trying to cut
spending you're not going to be cutting
able to cut enough before you hit a
recessionary catalyst and then you'll be
right back to spending uh versus uh if
you're trying to cut taxes that's great
but how are you going to make that all
up in tariffs well you probably won't
and we already know that tariffs are
economically just not the best idea
they're tend to create too much dead
weight loss so this is where I actually
argue I think there's this potential
that Doge stimulus checks uh might
actually be closer than we think I know
it seems crazy right now when the
market's at all-time Highs but what it
ends up
happening is if you walk into a
recession because of some of the data
that we're starting to see I think uh
there will be uh quite a bit of
enthusiasm for government stimulus again
but that's my opinion we don't have to
focus on that so much right now uh
instead uh Bank of America is actually
recommending the 30-year Bond right now
I actually think that's very interesting
as they see a potential flatter yield
curve now in a shock we would probably
not just see a flatter yield curve we'
probably see a substantial drop in the
2-year treasury uh which would also pull
down uh the longer term end so you know
TLT becomes interesting in the event of
a shock we don't know with certainty
that we're going to have a shock uh so
put putting all these pieces of the
puzzle together things are looking a
little okay at the very least we should
pay attention to these things right uh I
mean consider this for a moment
job data likely weaker than expected
terrible pmis yesterday consumer
confidence is starting to slip optimism
that we had after uh immediately after
and immediately before actually the
Trump election has started to wne
because we've started to go all right
what is all of this actually going to
mean what kind of tariffs are we going
to get what you know the pull forward
that we had for tariff spending has sort
of already been been had so now it's
like all right where's the new demand hm
you know growth forecast slower than
expected at companies including Walmart
well the Walmart wasn't really that bad
and Walmart tried to blame it on their
TV manufacturing business that they
bought well technically it's a designing
business since they themselves Outsource
but anyway you you put all that together
does create some uncertainty now
sometimes uncertainty is a great
opportunity to buy the dip in stocks
personally I think that if the only
uncertainty we face is this uh H5 U I
don't know what no it was Hong Kong u5
the
hku5 kv2 variant of uh of of this sort
of bat if that's the uncertainty leading
markets to sell off right now I mean
that's probably a nothing Burger I would
argue with a 97% certainty it's a
nothing burger and you can watch my
video on it if you know markets are
selling off because of drama over the
bybit hack then that that that is also a
buy the dip opportunity uh markets have
become sophisticated enough to realize
that if they don't step in to bail out
uh a potential bank run then they end up
collapsing like FTX and it leads to
substantially larger
problems and more more losses now when
it comes to uh this employment data well
that's what makes me concerned because
most people seem convinced that oh well
everything's fine the labor market is
fine look jobs are still fine but I
think people forget that recessions
usually are defined in the past in the
rear view mirror and this is actually
really problematic because it it takes
away your predictive power and it means
you have the highest likelihood of being
in a shock now this is the kind of stuff
we talk about in our course member live
streams regularly this morning we were
doing a hymns analysis uh and their
exposure to glps do you know how many of
their customers are subscribers because
of glps do you know how many of their
customers are senior citizens the these
are important things that we dive into
to evaluate okay what's what what could
a potential Revenue impact be at hims if
they lose their ability to utilize a
compounding exemption if you don't know
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St level St Louis fed and go to um
unemployment
rate it's worth noting how much of a lag
there is in in when you actually end up
seeing the unemployment rate Spike
relative to uh recession uh and so as an
example if I pull into the uh uht bubble
recession or the uh you know 2008
recession you don't actually hit Peak
unemployment until the recession is
essentially over now this is quite
shocking but if you look the stock
market bottomed somewhere around March
of 2009 the stock market started tanking
around March of 2008 so notice how the
stock market actually tanked before the
unemployment rise came and the stock
market bottomed before the peak of
unemployment now the same thing was true
over here this stock market uh started
falling uh you know in 2001 late 2000
and you didn't actually really see the
peak of your unemployment until
basically the turn of 2001 to
2002 now that's really interesting it's
worth paying attention to as well and
you ended up getting your bottom in the
stock market in March of 2003 but you
didn't hit Peak unemployment until you
had this other surge over here in June
of 2003 so in other words the market
seems to bottom about 3 to 6 months
before you hit Peak unemployment but
we're at the top right now in the stock
market so you you haven't gone through a
bottoming process yet if this is a
potential future now again is this an
argument that says and then we're going
to get into the Burk share letter here
is this an argument that says oh my gosh
sell everything no I mean of course not
I'm not your personal financial
adviser but I do think it's an argument
for being cautious uh how can you be
cautious well one of the ways you could
be cautious is diversifying your
Investments uh private Market
opportunities are interesting because
they're less exposed to the volatility
of the public markets so for example at
the moment for accredited and hopefully
soon for non- accredited uh our um our
investors into house hack receive 5%
yield on their investment in addition to
5% which just 5% alone that's not a big
deal but in addition to the 5% you get
100% of The Upside in the stock so you
know you know if we end up over you know
you know the next six seven years or
whenever between now and IPO time if
we're able to 10x 20x 50x the company I
have no idea what it would be hopefully
it'd be something great like this you
you capture all of that upside uh in
between now and conversion you earn 5%
that's just an example it's you don't
have to invest in my real estate company
it's real estate you know it's not for
everyone uh but
diversifying is one option another
option is looking into uh treasury bonds
you know those those are another option
you capture some yield uh and you could
do what Warren Buffett does well Warren
Buffett just goes for you know up to one
year treasuries six to six to one year I
think six months is is his favorite uh
another option is pay down debt there
are a lot of people with outstanding
margin uh in fact we could look finra
finra margin outstanding and I would be
really nervous about uh some of these
levels because we're at all time highs
on margin outstanding right now standby
let's see here there it is all right
here you go margin statistics look at
that
937 billion doll of margin outstanding
it's the highest at least in the chart
that we could see here we can get some
historical data too by going through the
download of the data but this is
substantial so uh this is going to be
something to pay attention to I think we
may have been beaten by this once at the
end of 2021 or so and then margin just
absolutely collapsed because so many
people got burned you know margin's
great when markets are going up but
there's a sudden shock oh man you're
borrowing money to lose it oh it's it's
bad then you have the Panic of the
potential for a margin call and it just
leads to poor decision- making so
reducing Deb is is usually a
psychologically smart thing to do uh I
know how how burdensome it could be to
not want to pay off debt because it's
like oh but you know if the stock just
bounces back a little bit all right well
I I just want to make sure we we talk
about this at the top of the market okay
anyway so the burshire letter was
interesting I'm just going to point out
some of the highlights that I found
interesting I'm not going to read
everything here but I love the argument
about Praise by name criticize by
category so don't speak poorly about an
individual instead criticize the
category when you're talking about let's
say reviewing a business or whatever uh
and then praise people by name I find
that very interesting uh then uh he
talks about how important it is to
realize that managers aren't perfect and
more managers should admit that they're
wrong and they've made a mistake because
then you can actually start solving the
problem right what do they always say
the first step of solving a problem is
is identifying or admitting it uh anyway
uh he talk talks about you know don't
fool yourself uh into not acknowledging
and solving mistakes he goes through
some stories that are quite interesting
how he talks about how he never looks at
where somebody's school is that they
went to talks about how 53% of their 189
reporting businesses uh or or businesses
that they own or have ownership in
reporting a decline in earnings now
Burkshire did better in part because of
the treasury income they had and then
also the insurance business they talked
about how there really weren't Mega
major storms that of course their claims
that they still pay out on asbest which
have been going on for 30 years there
are short-term claims that they'll have
to pay out for storms or fires but some
years you'll get multiple Mega storms in
a row and he talks about them not having
been exposed to these in uh 2024 and
helping increase their income in the
shortterm but be careful because you
know you could have a really good year
and then you can have a really bad year
with insurance uh he he also says that
sometimes businesses will blink yellow
and give you a warning sign and you
should pay attention to those warning
signs so he says that the treasury
Department knew that Berkshire Hathaway
was going bankrupt the furniture
business was going bankrupt because they
kept the shell right and used it as the
company has now the shell was going
bankrupt uh and the treasury Department
knew that before anybody else did
because he stopped paying taxes to them
for at Berkshire haway because they
weren't making money anymore he was
basically always say saying hey like
sometimes a business can look cheap
because its income is going down and you
have to be careful because that could be
for a reason maybe that company is
bleeding
out then uh it talks up America How
Great America is how much money they've
paid in taxes takes a slam at other
companies that aren't paying a lot of
money in taxes because of tech Loop or
whatever talks about uh how they don't
have a lot of flexibility in the markets
mostly because when they make a move
it's so large it takes them while to get
in and
out uh then he talks about foregoing on
dividends to reinvest at the company
we've heard some of these things before
talks about investing the float uh he
this was fascinating too he talks about
uh that uh when when when CEOs are paid
on a level of performance or stock
exposure rather than option exposure uh
it it's an approach that encourages
caution but does not Ensure
foresight I don't know if um you know
how much of that is true his idea is
basically if the stock goes down the
owner loses money as well like the the
CEO uh I get that uh but what I really
liked was the line that you could do
something that encourages caution but
does not ensure foresight you can't
guarantee that you'll see everything
that's happening or going to happen in
the future thought that was fascinating
uh it talks about how they're not going
to lower their underwriting qualities
talks about his investments in Japan and
how great Japan is because Japan's
gotten so cheap blah blah blah blah then
they actually just kind of go through
the investor day of what they're going
to do how they're going to talk to Becky
quick and and some scheduling stuff so
that's really it for the birkshire
letter I really think uh some of the
other things that we talked about though
are much more important and we know that
Warren Buffett's cash pile is at alltime
record highs we also know that he
doesn't try to time the market uh his
take is uh just look for good
opportunities and he sees a substantial
lack of good opportunities right now in
markets which is fascinating uh I still
see opportunities you know we talk him
with talk about him with course members
uh but I could see for his scale they're
they're going to be fewer because
they've got just way too much money to
deploy for it to make a difference you
know they could only put so much money
into a small company before they move
the stock themselves right uh anyway
with all that I think it's worth uh
listening to the rest of what Satya
Adella here said and we'll just sort of
a little summary here it's a lot of
information then you can again can
invest maybe exponentially even knowing
that you're not going to be completely
rate mismatched I wonder if there's a
contradiction in these two different
viewpoints because look I mean one of
the things you've done wonderfully is
you make these early bets when there's
you you invested in open AI in 2019 even
before there was co-pilot and any
applications if you look at the
Industrial Revolution these um you know
6 10% uh build outs of Railways and
whatever things many of those were not
like we've got revenue from the tickets
and now we're going to a lot of money
lost that's true the uh so if you if you
really think like there's some potential
here to 10x the or 5x the growth rate of
the world shouldn't you just like let's
go crazy let's do the hundreds of
billions of dollars of compute it's not
about building compute it's about
building compute that can actually help
me not only train the next big model but
also serve the next big model uh and you
understand until you do those two things
you're not going to be able to really be
in a position to take advantage of even
your investment so you have to have a
complete thought not just one thing that
thinking
about all right so that was really the
the rest of that just to cover that as
well I mean again this idea is very
simple it's like let's prove that we can
make money first then we can keep
spending as long as we can exponentially
make money we can exponentially keep
spending so put all of these things
together and I think when you put them
together on a list it it becomes
something that you know at least merits
some caution uh cash Levels by uh at
least institutional surveys are quite
low right so let's write these down low
cash levels something to pay attention
to what's another thing that we want to
pay attention to well the lagged deep Fe
seep effect right so lagged uh deep seek
effect this this mainstream media
argument that I think is so interesting
is you've had a lot of people say oh
well you know the Deep seek effect
didn't do anything because capex
spending didn't go down look at you know
Microsoft Amazon meta whatever okay but
they reported earnings 5 days after the
Deep seek fact you know 5 days isn't
enough to adjust 6 to 12 months and this
is what I've said since day one this
just be careful it is it is a it's like
a cancer that has been
planted uh then so watch the capex
redirection or slowdown low levels of
cash watch these job revisions also a
lot of talk right now about growth or
lack thereof and remember what happens
when growth slows down
when growth slows down companies
lose their PP nobody likes losing their
PP when their pricing power goes down
they end up taking it in the margin Okay
small PP taking it in the margin are
problems and they all lead to
eventual uh but not immediate job loss
uh Jess job losses there we go whatever
so uh just watch all of these things in
your investing career be careful I
personally think uh there's still
opportunities in high quality real
estate specifically single family mostly
because I have this
Vision so we're going to call this
section Kevin's
Vision uh and and it's it's I'll call it
my my bare Vision bare Vision uh my bare
thesis is that uh we end up in a uh
deflationary
uh
recession and this is going to be marked
by uh marked by 10 to 14%
Unemployment uh the problem is this uh
will be quite sticky and the reason I
say it'll be quite sticky uh is because
I actually think the beauty of ai ai
will make it harder to rehire
uh this will actually make it make it
harder
to um come out of the recession to
escape the recession uh it will take
much longer to get out uh you could see
flat
returns uh in markets for years you many
years because you need people to go back
to work to get the consumption going
again right this is where I think
there's the potential you start seeing
some more clamoring for Doge stimulus
but but I don't think it's going to do
much to actually create jobs it might
create temporary little boosts in
spending like what you saw in China but
doesn't sustainably change anything you
know in our Co recession when we
stimulated we were
stimulating what was actually a
relatively strong economy uh but Kevin's
bear Vision here is a deflationary
recession that's really you know it
usually how it
starts so uh it starts with a market
slowdown uh some early indicators of
Labor Market
stress uh
then after that the compounding effects
take hold compounding hits uh weaker
growth more layoffs this is a cycle
right we end up in a deflationary
recession so this means prices go
down but people have less Capital you
know risk assets go down in this risk
assets uh down so this usually means
that things like gold bonds usually do
well in a recession but a deflationary
recession
um you know may not do as well for gold
I I don't know you know because gold has
already been propped up on this idea of
tariffs and inflation so how much of
that gets replaced with um deflationary
I don't know but usually golden bonds do
well I would guess that if we hit a 10
to 14% unemployment rate we're probably
back to 0% interest rates and QE uh AI
will make it again harder to rehire
which which just leads to more QE right
uh more QE it'll make it harder to
escape recession and and
really probably asset owners will end up
doing the best uh like you know people
who can leverage their assets for debt
uh for cheap debt and so I think uh
leverageable assets will become very
very valuable uh to me the easiest one
is just real estate but then again
that's you know that's my world of
expertise apparently I can't even spell
leverageable maybe because it's not a
word put the e in there anyway so
whatever uh I I don't want that to
happen I mean sure it'd be cool for
rates to be back to 0% again but this
would be terrible you know the economy
will be in a poopy duper for a while so
I don't love this be Vision uh but uh
just the data that we've gotten over the
last two days has has increased the
likelihood of this to me so you
know 3 days ago call you know put me at
4.8 on the bare bull scale you know 100%
so like a score of one would be sell
everything uh scale of 10 is margin
everything all in baby I was probably
about a 4.8 3 days
ago I've been kind of more in the middle
the last couple months just sort of like
wait to see the data we got all the last
two days the last two days of data
probably put me closer to like a
2.4 so I don't know make uh make with
that what You' like uh but you know I
don't have any options on the market uh
uh in terms of like uh shorts on the
market or whatever right now I've got
exposure to bonds uh just to be
transparent uh via options and and
actual Holdings but that's mostly
because I think bonds are are great I
think they are probably going to be one
of the best performing Assets in 25 but
we'll see so I know bonds are kind of
boring though they're they're not fun so
that's my take thanks for watching
goodbye good luck why not advertise
these things that you told us here I
feel like nobody else knows about this
we'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes congratulations man you
have done so much people love you people
look up to you Kevin PA there financial
analyst and YouTuber meet always great
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