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other massive company with mass layoffs
and canceling yet another failed
business in real estate Redfin is the
failure we're going to talk about today
and boy oh boy
this is going to be a lesson called
lesson number 101 how not to make money
in real estate
that doesn't sound as sexy as use the
coupon code down below and join the zero
to millionaire course to learn how to
actually build wealth in real estate
and what's great is in that course I for
years have dissuaded becoming a home
Flipper the reason and then I'm going to
give you the news the reason why home
flipping is so challenging is generally
you pay substantial fees and holding
costs to sell property when you buy it
this makes using real estate as a
volatile commodity to trade very
expensive let me give you an example
people like to think oh well I could
just sell my home with a discount real
estate agent for one percent and the you
know cost to sell aren't that high
unfortunately that's not how the game
works typically closing costs are going
to cost you anywhere between six to
seven percent that's because not only do
you have to pay your realtor but you pay
the buyer's agent so maybe you save on
your representation by getting somebody
who's willing to work for a discount uh
and then you still pay the buyer's agent
and usually a normal market rate so you
to track buyers but then you have to pay
your escrow fees your title fees and
sure you can get binder policies and
titles or title to sort of reduce some
of those costs but you've got to pay for
holding costs costs of capital that are
deployed on that property and the fact
that you got to keep the lights on while
the property is sitting there and paying
property taxes as you're trying to sell
it and transact it people have to pay
for houses that are open houses right
this makes logical sense but beyond that
you have to maintain the property and as
buyers beat you up in inspections you
generally get complaints that you won't
get from a tenant now that is very
important to contrast because you want
to do great work for a tenant but let me
put you put it this way if the roof is
old but it's not leaking the tenant
doesn't care if however the roof is old
and you're selling it the buyer might
want you to pay for a new roof or at
least like 70 percent of it very very
typical so home flipping exposes you to
expenses that are usually get a knock on
the door of seven to ten percent let's
just take ten percent to be simple
considering all the repairs that you
might have to throw at a buyer just to
get them to close a deal so let's give
you an example and then give you the
breaking news so if you buy a house for
five hundred thousand dollars you put
fifty thousand dollars in to fix it up
you're probably looking at somewhere
around a six hundred and five thousand
dollar break even when you factor in
those holding costs and selling costs
and concessions to the buyer that's
challenging that extra fifty five
thousand dollars means you basically
blew an entire one hundred and five
thousand dollars the difference between
what the property might sell for 605 and
500 000 you blew that on fix up and
selling expenses not to mention you've
got buying expenses as well and what a
lot of people have been doing in the
flipping Market lately is they've been
speculating so hardcore that they've
been getting into flips where the after
repair value is like six hundred and
five thousand dollars and then they go
in and they say you know what the market
will just appreciate during the three
months we're in this process and guess
what we'll be able to profit off that
market appreciation and if we can now
sell the house for 6.25 now we walk away
with about a twenty thousand dollar gain
that's great if the Market's
appreciating and going in your direction
but what if Jay Powell comes around and
raises interest rates for mortgages four
to five percent and all of a sudden
buyers purchasing power is quickly
eroded and instead of seeing that after
repair value go from 620 or 605 to 625
you actually see it go to 580 and you
take it on the chin
yeah oops not so great and that's why
it's actually really smart for companies
to get out of the flipping business
right now Zillow saw this coming really
smart they got out of this the flipping
business at the end of 2021 and even
though they had to sell thousands of
their homes for a discount in early 2022
they ended up selling those sure at a
slight discount but still when the
market was near highs early 2022 was the
time to sell that's also when I sold 85
percent of my real estate now what's
next well Open Door is still stuck
flipping homes but they're offering
sellers way less money because they're
realizing they're getting smoked they're
losing so much money on deals that they
bought in q1 and Q2 because they didn't
pay attention to the housing market I
think there were plenty of people like
me screaming the housing market was
about to grind to a halt and you should
stop flipping homes yet Open Door didn't
listen and now they're getting burned
pretty substantially and laying off 18
of their staff but the other buyer known
as an eye buyer just like open door
which is basically a website that's
willing to buy your home from you and
then they can either resell it and take
some commissions and fees or they could
try to resell it for a profit and make
money that way either way Redfin was
another big eye buyer Redfin wanted to
give you multiple options and this is
actually smart it was very similar to
what I used to do as a real estate agent
back in like 2013 and 14 when I had the
means to do all these things I used to
say hey I'll sit down with the seller
and here are three options for you I'll
help you list the house for sale I'll
help you fix up the house so we could
sell it for more if you want or we'll
buy it from you all cash but the all
cash offer would obviously be less
Redfin tried taking that model which by
the way let me quickly give you a
spoiler on what I did what I ended up
doing is realizing lending my clients
money because I got my lending license
to help them fix up their homes was a
bad idea because clients and
construction don't really mix well
together construction is fun when you're
Your Own Boss not when you have clients
trying to tell you what to do when
you're the professional whatever that
was not a great model and buying homes
cash
kind of have to almost insult the
clients you're trying to list the home
for so didn't work out very well either
unless of course you wanted to overpay
to give them a good experience but then
by overpaying you'd also take it on the
chin and you don't want to do that you
don't want to be in a business that
loses money and that's folks what Redfin
just announced they're laying off 13 of
their staff and shutting down their home
flipping business here it is on November
7th we decided to wind down Redfin now
and reduce our number of employees by
862 which represents 13 percent of our
total employees of these 264 job
eliminations are directly related to
Redfin now wow so 264 are related to
Redfin now getting shut down which is
their home flipping business but that
means another nearly 600 jobs are
getting fired because well ultimately
here you go since June mortgage rates
have continued to climb and expectations
for home sales have continued to come
down remember these are businesses that
make money off of volume the more
transactions there are the more people
can pay for ads on let's say Zillow the
more transactions there are the more
Revenue Redfin can get from Redfin
agents or Redfin partner agents but when
transactions go down even if prices
don't necessarily come down although
they've already come down about eight to
ten percent across the country on
average we expect them to probably come
down somewhere between 15 to 25 percent
during 2023 uh we'll see but anyway they
say the remaining Workforce reductions
are primarily among our Real Estate
Services and headquarters employees in
response to macro economic conditions
and we're seeing layoffs everywhere
today's Workforce reduction assumes a
housing downturn that lasts at least
through 2023 wow I didn't actually
pre-read this section right here that's
incredible they're now predicting that
all of 2023 is going to be a housing
downturn and that's Redfin they provide
some pretty good insights to the market
too I actually respect their blog I
respect their CEO even though he he kind
of never comes on my channel for an
interview even though we've asked many
times but you know what fine don't come
since April 2022 through inventory
involuntary reductions and attrition
we've reduced total headcount of
employees by 27 wow regarding Redfin now
we expect to complete the purchase of
all homes were contractually obligated
to purchase and renovate and sell
properties quickly as of October 31st
the so this is another big buyer leaving
the market so open door is like yeah
we're just not going to buy much at all
anymore zillow's out redfins out you
know the Pension funds and REITs are
stopping buying the home builders are
stopping by you've got a lot of buyers
dipping out of this market so I know
people are like oh but inventory is
still low that's true but a lot of
buyers are just like no thanks bye and
that's how you start building up
inventory just wait I think probably by
q1 of next year we're gonna see big
surge in inventory relative to where we
sit now
as of October 31st the invent the
inventory value of homes was
approximately 265 million with another
92 million under contract by the end of
January we expect to own less than 85
million in homes and expect to complete
the liquidation oh that always sounds so
bad of our Redfin now inventory in the
second quarter of 2023 that's actually
when I think we we might and I'm not
sure yet okay I will know when we're
closer and that's okay I don't have to
make a decision until we're closer but
that's actually when I think I want to
start considering shopping for uh house
hack which remember if you're an
accredited investor go to househack.com
read the PPM there that's your
solicitation we've got some really good
news coming out to investors uh probably
today actually for for house hack which
is great and if you're not accredited
yet don't worry we've got the
non-accredited round probably coming in
January February while the bulk of the
workforce reduction is occurring today
we expect to complete this Workforce
reduction in wind down Redfin now
promptly after selling the remaining
properties currently in inventory into
2023 in connection with the preparation
of financial statements we recorded an
18 million write down of inventory oh
that's about that's nearly what eight
percent or so that makes sense uh and uh
let's see here right for now current
estimates of values uh if they were to
sell the homes as of September 30th
2022. okay well so you're gonna have
more write Downs basically yikes as a
result of the decision to wind down
Redfin now we plan to report Redfin now
as a discontinued operation wow so there
you have it folks don't flip homes learn
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estate startup that is absolutely going
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in my lifetime this will have a
multi-billion dollar valuation
I can't make that guarantee that's my
hope I just want to be very clear I
don't want to make promises but
expectations
um I am so excited for the opportunities
that lay ahead and I want you to learn
with me so check out the zero to
millionaire course and folks we'll see
you soon thanks bye
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