**wtf is happening**
FULL TRANSCRIPT
This video is going to cover a lot on
what's going on with credit default
swaps and what they're signaling in
private credit, especially artificial
intelligence, and Microsoft is in that
topic, which is scary. Then we're going
to be touching on employment and a
little bit of what consumer earnings
calls just told us because it's really
going to help us understand what the
heck is going on in this environment.
So, in my opinion, buckle up. Watch the
full video. It's going to be the only
video I post until I get back on Monday.
And folks, I think it's going to be
really valuable. It'll give you a lot of
color on what is actually going on in
the economy and maybe where to invest.
Holy smokes, folks. I really apologize.
It seems like every time I leave town
for a couple days, the oopsy dupsies
hits. But why today? Because there are
actually reasons as to why this market
is being so weird today. Liquidations,
margin calls. We had it all today. It's
crazy. Not me personally, but from what
we're hearing out there. Let's talk
about this because there are also some
underlying issues going on, not just
with what we're seeing in the consumer
plays. We're going to go through some
earnings calls, but also what's going
on. We're going to sit here. This is a
little comfortable spot I found. Uh it's
actually a giant bathtub. [laughter]
But anyway, uh we're going to break down
exactly what happened, especially the
spike that's going on in credit default
swaps. Uh and this is almost a little
bit concerning. So, I'm going to break
down exactly what's going on here. Uh,
so so you know, and you can keep track
of it. I think that's important as well.
Uh, I'm a big fan of teaching, uh,
people how to fish. And so, here's the
thing. You're going to see some of this
stuff circulating on social media. What
this is is somebody basically took
screenshots of the Bloomberg terminal
and they found a pricing for Oracle and
Microsoft credit default swaps. And
basically what you could see here is
that Microsoft credit default swaps,
this is AAA rated credit, this is really
really uh like the best kind of bond you
can buy. There's a reason the spreads or
premium that you pay for a corporate
bond at Microsoft is very very low
compared to US Treasury is because
they're basically both considered too
big to fail, right? Well, look at this
spike that you've seen here on Microsoft
just in November, which basically means
the last five trading days. Uh and if
you look at Oracle, you've seen this
repricing uh basically a doubling of the
risk profile over the last month and
it's really really remarkable because
it's like oh my gosh like what does this
mean? So we got to talk about that and
I'm going to break down why this is
happening especially the open AI drama
that's going on and then we'll get into
a little bit more on jobs in the
economy. I do want to mention that this
morning I I like I put I'm going to
start putting screenshots here because I
don't think people believe it but this
was literally from the alpha report
today. Say we bounce at 600. I'd like a
regain of 615 after the bounce. That was
towards our sort of bottom line. And I
also wrote, therefore, this was actually
earlier, so I reversed those, but
anyway, therefore, I'd be looking for
stability around either 605 or 600 for a
playable bounce, depending obviously on
how the first portion of the day goes.
Then there should be a playable bounce,
possibly even a long-term dip by
opportunity. And it's remarkable because
if we look at what happened with the
market today, and I'm going to tell you
why I think this happened, it I think a
lot of it frankly has to do with debt.
Like I think a lot of people are getting
margin called to the you know coonas.
It's it's not good. Uh but what's
happening is here let's go ahead and
share this. Look at the cues right here.
You can see the cues and what we got.
Look at this collapse at the beginning
of the day. We get the institutional
sell. Uh but look at that bounce within
a buck 43 of our foundation right here
which is a really solid reversal you get
off of roughly that 600 level. So,
pretty remarkable playable bounce,
playable as a long-term dip buy, but
it's only playable as a long-term dip by
if you actually think that this jobs
issue and this credit issue that's
brewing isn't going to last. Just a
quick reminder, I know you've heard the
pitch for the Meet Kevin program before.
I just want you to know my goal, like my
whole life, is just to make sure I
provide you as much value as possible.
So, still send the alpha report when I'm
on vacation. and we're going to be back
with really great content over the next
few weeks before even Black Friday
because we're releasing these amazing
new lectures on tax strategies and much
else. You get all this for free as a
course member. So, uh if you're a course
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membership. So join that and you get
everything. We'll see you there. So what
do I mean with that? Well, this is where
you have to understand the underlying
problems. There are two underlying
problems. Number one, let's talk about
this open AI risk factor and then we'll
hit jobs. Jobs, we know about this. So
we've talked about this before, but
anyway, the underlying issue that you
have with OpenAI is the following.
Remember when we had uh Sarah, the CFO
of OpenAI, who used to work at Next
Door, which tanked, who used to work at
Square, which tanked? Like these have
been massive underperformers. So like
her reputation for working at companies
that can actually grow over the long
term, maybe not the best. Uh but that
said, Sarah basically said, not Sarah
Eisen, uh said, "We're looking for loan
guarantees or back stops." She
essentially put this little balloon up
in the sky like, "Hey, uh like if you
offer it, we'll take it." to this. Sam
Oldman freaked out on X and he's like,
"Bro, no. We we are not doing that."
Like, "What are you talking about,
Sarah?" Uh, and it was actually funny
because I took his giant wall of text
yesterday. You can follow me at Realme
Kevin and see me post these things, but
I took his giant wall of text uh and I I
put it into his own software using GP
GPT5. I took this giant wall of text and
I'm like, "Hey, basically, is is Sam
Alman just coping?" is what I asked it.
Uh, and the response was this
screenshot. Yes, this reads as damage
control. Alman is walking back the
optics of seeking government guarantees
by reframing it as a support for public
infrastructure or chip independence,
not a corporate subsidy. It's a careful
clarification to preserve the pro market
narrative while calming bailout
criticism. Okay. So, basically in
English, Sam Alman's like, "Look, if we
want to keep growing AI and spend a
trillion dollars, you know, it would
actually make our lives a lot easier if
the government's like, we'll guarantee
all these loans for these data centers
because then the uh we can borrow more
money, blow up the bubble even faster,
and the taxpayer can pay for it where
when it fails." The issue with that is
you're basically asking the taxpayer to
guarantee the most expensive part of AI
and the riskiest part, the data center
buildouts. That's going to be where the
real big BA bag holding is, which is why
you're seeing those Oracle spreads widen
so much because they take on massive
debt and have massive infrastructure
investments and they've crushed their
cash flow to do that. That's basically
where Sam Alman's like, see, look,
credit default swaps going up over here.
We need the government to preemptively
bail that out so we don't have spreads
go up and we can keep the AI party
going. In the meantime, we'll take the
really high margin uh software business.
Uh and then of course uh you know this
was him saying like we're see we're not
asking for bailout everything's fine but
then of course if you actually look at
the letter they sent the white house
which this started circulating in a
letter they sent to the white house so
keep in mind the order here right Sarah
asked for government back stops Sam then
denies it and then openai you know the
letter that the openai sent to the white
house comes out uh and it says
broadening coverage of the advanced
manufacturing investment credit would
reduce the effect of capital and
actually derisk early investment
In other words, it'll take care of the
rich people throwing money into backing
open AI. And it'll unlock more private
capital to alleviate bottlenecks and
accelerate AI build in the US. They're
trying to bend the knees to Trump going,
"Look, man, like if you just if you just
juice us with with, you know, a bailout,
a pre-bailout, a guarantee, right? It's
essentially a pre-bailout. Then then
we'll be able to give the manufacturers
the certainty they need. Just give us
loaning guarantees, bro. Come on.
That'll really help us." This is leading
to the stress where markets are now
saying, "Wait a minute." So Sam Alman is
asking for loan guarantees and then he's
saying he's not, but then basically he
is. This is probably a sign that other
lenders are starting to get nervous
about lending to AI to OpenAI or any
really underlying AI business, which if
other lenders are getting business or
are getting nervous, maybe we should be
getting nervous as well. I hate to say
it. People think like the suits and the
people on Wall Street are brilliant.
They're just like you and me. Like they
just have more capital. And so when some
of them get scared, they all get scared.
Uh and so it's not also a surprise that
you're seeing a liquidation of funds in
private credit
after the first brand's collapse. So,
this is how it all starts shaking and
getting really, really nervous for
people. And I kid you not, I'm going to
put this up on screen because I think
it's remarkable. Uh, look at this here.
Let's pop this up on screen. Uh, okay.
Well, this is the downside of not being
in my studio, but that's okay. You know
what? While I pull this screen up,
remember, uh, don't forget you can go to
mekevin.com and get that alpha report
every single morning. I still send it
even when I'm on vacation, boys and
girls. But anyway, look at this. So UBS
liquidates funds affected by first
brand's collapse. So now I really want
you to think about what this means. UBS
basically has funds. Think of them like
ETFs. They're not ETFs. They're private,
but but think of them like an ETF, which
an ETF is just a fund, right? Hey, we
have this idea. We're going to invest in
private credit, and you're going to get
all these great yields. Well, all of a
sudden, clients are like, "Yo, bro, um,
we want our money out of these funds."
And so First Brands is like, "Oh my
gosh, everybody's trying to take their
money out. They're basically liquidating
the funds. Let's just go ahead and close
the fund because everybody's selling and
uh everybody wants their money back out
of the fund. So, we're just going to go
ahead and liquidate funds and and we'll
we'll shut this whole side of the
business down. So then investors get
their money back, you know, what's left
of it." Uh because remember, there are a
few reasons you can like close a fund.
You could close a fund because
everybody's bailing and nobody wants,
you know, wants to be part of it anymore
because there's an underlying stress. Or
you could close a fund because you're
doing other projects and you don't want
to manage the fund, right? This is not
the latter. This is not UBS saying,
"Yeah, we just don't want to do this
anymore." You know, it's like we we're
going to focus on a different part of
our business that's booming. That's for
example me and Hellsac. Like I'm
focusing on a business that's booming.
It's crazy. We're we're about to cross a
million dollars of inflows just in
November, which is really awesome. This
is UBS going, "No, it is so bad if
people panicking, not wanting to put new
money in, which if people don't put new
money in, then what happens? UBS ain't
going anywhere with these funds. So,
they're not making money anymore on
these funds. You may as well just
liquidate and close down." Okay. Well,
what happens then? Other funds start
getting stressed because they don't get
the inflows or new funding. And then
what happens? Well, credit starts
freezing up. when credit starts freezing
up because there's a a form of a
liquidity crisis going on. Well, then
what happens? All of a sudden, you see
credit default swap insurance rates go
way up because people start taking out
insurance against a default. Remember,
insurance right now on $10 million of
Oracle cost you about $84,000 a year.
And that's double what it cost like two
months ago, which is crazy. Anyway, uh
so
this ripple effect of triricolor and
first brands which a lot of people first
said they're like oh it's idiosyncratic
it's idiosyncratic it's just those
companies it's just there aren't any
other cockroaches now all of a sudden
you're seeing oh no there are problems
in a lot of different places lenders
people who buy bonds are getting
stressed they're not as interested in
buying debt in these you know uh AI
infrastructure plays or certainly
private credit plays And so they're
taking their money out and they're
moving to less risky assets, especially
when the stock market is at all-time
highs. Unfortunately, when the stock
market is at all-time highs, what ends
up happening? Well, you tend to get the
stock market as soon as it wobbles and
starts coming down triggering margin
calls. And that's literally what we're
seeing today. I mean, I know of people
who are getting like six figure margin
calls. I'm apparently they don't listen
when me Kevin's like, "Don't have debt
in this freaking environment. That's why
we don't have debt." You know, me
personally, zero debt, no margin debt,
no credit lines, no helocks, nothing.
You can't call me in margin calling
because there's no debt. Now, House hack
is a little bit of convertible bond
debt, but that's because we're
diversifying away from the insanity of
the euphoria and we're diversifying into
American real estate. I should show you
this foreclosure that we just got our
hands on. Uh, this is really cool. This
this is like totally raw, non-edited
footage. I should probably shouldn't do
this, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Um, so
this is a a foreclosure I took Jack to
and uh poor little guy. I mean, look at
this. It is like a full hoarder disaster
where they've got the little hallways
over here just to get through and
survive. Jack's never seen something
like this before in his life, which is
great for him to see because it's like,
"Son, if you ever get mad at mommy and
daddy for a day, we'll go move you into
the hoarder house." [laughter]
So, we now have a little bit of uh maybe
leverage, but look at his face over
here. just like stunned. Uh I mean I'll
amplify the audio later, but he's
basically like, "Man, you need to like
tear this place down and and start
over." I mean, look at when you go
upstairs. Oh, yeah. We got mold in the
bathroom over here, too. It's
disgusting. But anyway, look at you go
upstairs cuz this person actually is
still alive. You go over here into the
master. You actually find the TVs on
here and and this is how the folks watch
TV. Oh, this is Jack holding the camera.
So, I think I'm going to take it here.
Yeah, there we go. So, I'm going to take
it in. Watch how these people watch TV.
That's the bed that's buried by
everything. And look at this. You have
like the whole shrine set up for the TV.
And there's where you could sit and
watch it. Holy smokes. Anyway,
Houseack's going to make a lot of money
on this. But then I always think it's so
funny because then people are like, "Oh,
but Kevin, you know, a home buyer could
have bought that place." Dude, no home
buyer is buying some of the stuff we're
buying. [laughter]
Nobody's touching this. But like that's
what we're putting our money into,
right? It's not like we're putting our
money into Bitcoin or or whatever.
People are able to diversify to real
estate with House Hack. This is not a
solicitation. Go read the documents at
househack.com or reinvest.co. Uh yeah,
whatever. Okay. You know about that,
right?
>> Seriously going to fix us up this place?
>> I mean, don't you think it needs it? Or
should we just rent it out the way it
is?
>> Probably needs a little love, huh?
>> I would just destroy the entire thing
and make a new one. Oh, just start over,
huh? I mean, it's got a good water
heater that, you know, looks good. Get
the laundry in here. I mean, I think a
little bit of paint would be fine.
>> No, but you have to remove everything.
Like, what is all this?
>> Uh, well, Amazon purchases.
>> I just swallowed a spiderweb.
>> So, well, now we got mold. Well,
>> yeah, sure. Here you go.
Oh,
>> it's all right. Powder room. Please
don't close door. You will get locked
inside. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Call locksmith ASAP. Let me go.
>> Why do you want to go?
>> It's scary.
>> You're not having fun?
>> No.
>> Now we know about this private credit
crisis that's going on. Not just the
overflow from First Brands and
Triricolor, which is leading to ripples
in the private credit. You're seeing
insurance premiums skyrocket for taking
out insurance against these bond
operations that the big infrastructure
plays are doing because they're burning
all their capital without this clear
path to profitability. Uh the open AI
sort of pre-bailout request creates even
more nervousness. And all of this is
happening when fund manager cash is at
extremely low levels and
there's not much else you can borrow.
Like people are already maxed out.
People are suffering. People are maxed
out on buy now pay later. People are
maxed out on credit cards. All these are
at all-time highs. BNPL all-time high.
Leveraged ETF funds all-time high.
Credit cards all-time high. Margin debt
all-time high. Like we are a a an entire
economic ecosystem of earnings per
share, like S&P 500 earnings per share,
all fueled by debt, baby. And that's
scary. Now, obviously this I mean this
is one of the reasons I'm mid, you know,
mid-range on the bare bull scale because
it's like there's a path to getting out
of this, but you can't be blindly
bullish on everything. You have to be
aware of the risk. And that gets to the
other side of the equation, which is the
data that we got this morning on jobs.
It's not great. Now, you can get this
data, remember, in the Meet Kevin app
totally for free. Uh if you're a course
member, you get extra insight obviously
through the app. Uh so download that in
the app store. Uh but um but I I think
it's valuable for you to have the extra
explanation with us on video here. But I
do also want to just shout out if you
haven't used it yet, use that extra 15%
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can really do some good analysis. But
look at what's going on on uh jobs here.
This is kind of crazy. So first, this is
from the University of Michigan
sentiment survey. The survey itself is
extremely volatile. Oh, I should
actually edit that part. It's extremely
volatile. Uh but uh the less volatile
portion is the blue line shown below.
There we go. I should clarify that. This
is why I think it's important we go
through this stuff with video. But
anyway, it's a nice reference for you to
look at in the future if you want to
look it up. So look at this. This blue
line is the consumer expectation on the
labor market. Now, even though this
one's volatile, it's nowhere near, I'll
say that, nowhere near as volatile as
sentiment, right? This is different than
sentiment. We already know sentiment
came in trash, but this is nowhere near
as volatile as sentiment. And it usually
leads GDP by 6 months. Frankly, the
reason it probably leads by that much is
because GDP is just like such a lagging
indicator. And it's usually wrong. Like,
usually really high GDP estimates end up
just getting revised rapidly down. It's
not great. But anyway, so we're nowhere
near as volatile on sentiment uh uh for
for consumer expectations on the labor
market, and it's absolutely falling off
a cliff, which isn't great. We're at
like 2008 lows on expectations for
labor. And I'm seeing this. I mean, I'm
talking even here at where where I am,
which is a wedding. I'm talking to
people who work from for like, you know,
Microsoft divisions. No names to be
named here other than Microsoft, but
people are like, "Dude, you know, we've
been working here 10, 11, 12 years, and
we're nervous that we're suddenly going
to get laid off." There is true fear in
the office that today may be our last
day where we open up our laptop, it just
doesn't work anymore. Like there is real
layoff here. So some of that fear could
be coming through here. But it's not
just that. And I don't even have this
listed right here on on today's page,
but it's also that ADP report. Yeah,
look, we cheered that we went on a
three-month moving average. We moved up
to 43,000. That's great, you know, uh uh
or sorry, on on the one month we're at
42,000. And the three-month moving
average is positive. Fine. It's still
indistinguishable from zero. We think
the break even rate somewhere between
zero and 20. So 40 is above the break
even rate which is great. Uh you know
because immigration has come down so
much. That's what the break even rate
adjusts for which is probably somewhere
between zero as Powell sees it or as
other people at the Fed like Lorie Logan
think it's like 20K somewhere in there
is probably right. I think they're
probably right about. Now, something
else that really nobody is talking about
on social media either that I want to
amplify, which we've talked about on the
channel before, but you may have already
forgotten, is that even the ADP report,
which was really the only bullish
catalyst we had for jobs, told us, hey,
forward warnings for layoffs or at the
highest level that we have seen since
2008.
We are not on a good trend for layoffs
coming, which is bad because remember
the one thing preventing the
normalization of the beaverage curve,
big red flag if that normalizes because
it basically means unemployment is going
to skyrocket is layoffs. And if plans
are now accelerating,
it's a problem. Shout out, by the way,
to Cancun,
not for turning my internet off, which
really, well, I'm a stoic. I don't get
upset. Well, I had to move because
apparently the internet went out. That's
one of the downsides of travel. But then
again, we'll get the video up
eventually. Uh, so here's the thing. The
ADP warning that we last got was that in
California, Oregon, and Washington were
basically the only states we got jobs.
that west coast. That's probably why
because of AI tech hiring. So if you
remove that one toothpick that's holding
up that AI tech hiring cuz you're still
hiring AI developers, right? You
probably have no jobs on the ADP report,
which was an issue I flagged in the ADP
report a few days ago when we covered
it. I'm like, man, you had I remember
saying it wasn't to be offensive. It's
just like, you know me, I'm in the
middle, so I kind of make fun of
everything. I'm like, the MAGAS better
be thankful for the libtards for the
leftover hiring cuz it's the only
toothpick holding up the economy right
now. So then you get the Revolio Labs
jobs report yesterday which revises down
jobs from 60K to 33K and it shows that
October is actually at 9,000.
All of those not great signals for the
labor market. But on top of that, we
also know that the layoff level today
matches the layoff level on challenger
job cuts reports that we lost saw in
2009.
The problem with that chart or the
problem with that understanding is in
2009 when we saw those massive layoffs,
we already had our shock event. We
already had our Lehman Brothers
collapse. We already had all the poopy
dupy in front of us or or behind us. And
then it was just about recovery. So then
if you look at like Indeed job postings
which today are declining to levels that
we haven't seen uh since uh 2021.
You could see this right here going
back. The difference is job postings
were on this massive uptrend here. Now
we're on this slow bleed trajectory.
Right? That's really what this is is a
slow bleed. The economy is basically
being sliced down to hell slowly. So now
let's understand what restaurant
earnings tell us just briefly. Okay,
Cabava which was this big meme stock.
People are like Kevin should I buy this?
I'm like I don't know man. The reason
people are so excited is because they
keep adding stores. Comp sales growth is
you know 20%. But that's because it's a
2011 business. It's a newer business
relative to to you know restaurants. And
so what do we have now? Complete
reversal. 24 stocks closed 18 opened
which means you net lost six stores.
transactions were growing in the mid20s.
Now they're growing at like 2%. The
entire restaurant industry has lost 7%
of transaction volume since 2019. That's
directly from the Cava earnings call.
The macro environment is what they're
blaming and they're like, you know,
we're in a heavy discounting
environment, but we're not going to uh
get into the heavy discounting to combat
any cyclical headwinds because, you
know, we don't do that. That's just high
ego. That's just a matter of time before
they have to cut prices. It's not in our
value proposition. You know, we're not
like McDonald's is basically what
they're saying. They're trying to slam
these other companies when the reality
is that's a big mistake. You should be
adjusting and taking care of your
consumer. On fairness, they're talking
about unlike Chipotle, actually having
your bowl of food full. I thought that
was an indirect slam at Chipotle. That
was actually kind of entertaining to see
in an earnings call. But anyway, at
Sweet Green, they're like, "Yeah, dude.
You know, we saw a slight pickup in July
after Liberation. However, in August, we
saw 200 basis points of declines.
another 200 basis points of declines in
September and now we're holding flat
compared to September, but on an annual
basis we're running in the low negative
doubledigit territory right now. Dinner
is mostly slowing down and the younger
consumer specifically in LA, the 25 to
35year-old consumer, oopsy dupsies. Now,
Dash is falling, not necessarily because
of the restaurant issue because Dash
numbers are up, but Dash is falling
because they're like, "Yeah, we're going
to go invest a bunch of money so we can
keep the growth going." And people today
are punishing that. They're like, "Oh,
you guys are going to invest. So,
earnings per share are going to be down.
Okay, sell." I mean, they got a two peg,
so I think, you know, they're probably
relatively where they should be as long
as we don't go into a recession. But
anyway, this gives you a breakdown of
everything that's going on. Liquidity
stress, people are maxed out on money.
It's hard to keep going up when you're
out of money. Okay, people are fully
leveraged. You're seeing the margin
calls. You're seeing the credit stress.
You're seeing the underlying consumer
stress. And unless we get a turnaround
in jobs here, which could happen, that's
kind of why I say we're on this
pendulum. You know, it's teeter totter.
Are we going to soft land? To soft land,
we need jobs up. If we don't get jobs
up, we're done. Now, mind you, this is
exactly why we have zero debt with House
Hack. We are, we think, diversifying
into a portion of the economy that has
actually been kind of battered up since
2022. Like we think real estate has
massive opportunities because as the
economy falters, rates come down, the
ability to leverage up the portfolio
skyrockets.
And I mean, let's say rates drop to
zero. Holy smokes, we can explode this
to like a half a billion dollar
portfolio. We're jumping up and down at
House AG. Uh but we also on the flip
side we're like but a recession would
also be bad because it would limit the
potential that we could sell our SAS biz
right because obviously if we're in the
biggest bull market ever and it keeps
going driven by AI we could sell our AI
product which we're just now getting
ready to launch. So like we're okay
either way. We have benefits and wins
either way, but there are reasons to
also cheer just people not going through
the suffering of a crash.
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