Tesla JUST Flipped.
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all right first things we gotta talk at
Tesla one of the reasons we have to talk
Tesla on this is because almost every
institution that attended the Tesla
event has released their letter on what
their takeaways are for Tesla that is
going to be quite interesting to break
through we're going to look at Barclays
Goldman Sachs and what some of the other
institutions are saying in their reports
to their clients about the Tesla
investor Day event now I love looking at
what the institutions are saying because
it's not clouded or shrouded in that
sort of retail bull thesis generally
retail is extremely bullish on Tesla
it's probably the stock that is held by
most retail investors and it's one of
the largest retail held stocks outside
of index funds like let's say the S P
500 which boy there are potentially some
big risks coming to the S P 500 but with
that said I really want to take a look
at those institutional reports because
the institutional mindset in my opinion
is very very important right now we've
got plenty of retail capital in Tesla
but what is that institutional Capital
actually going to flow back into Tesla
is it going to be predicated on the
market or would investor day have any
kind of changing effect on what
institutions believe for Tesla we'll
determine that in this video now I'd
like to also clarify because there are
some folks who are making the argument
that oh Kevin's being too short-term
minded in terms of being frustrated
about the Tesla investor Day event and
I'd like to address that before we
address what the institutions are saying
first it's very important to know that
the vast majority of people who are
affected by Tesla stock are affected on
a short-term basis that means employees
employees being hired employees just
hired employees who are considering
working for Tesla in either the
manufacturing era in the area in the uh
autonomous driving segment in the AI
segment and the chips manufacturing or
designing segment anyone who wants to
work for Tesla or works for Tesla is
immediately affected by a decline in the
share price of Tesla stock therefore
it's really important for Tesla to do
everything in their power to make sure
short-term headwinds do not create too
much of a downtrend for Tesla stock that
then becomes self-fulfilling and
shortable now Elon Musk obviously and
clearly violated this himself in 2022
with his 24 billion dollars of stock
sales that highly outpace the 15 billion
dollars of retail net purchases that's a
problem and obviously led to Tesla's
terrible drop to 100 bucks now that may
for long-term investors create a
fantastic buy the dip opportunity but
what it can do is create a demoralizing
environment for employees and individual
investors who are affected by the short
term so it is in my opinion very
important that Tesla do whatever they
can to organize their presentations in
such a way that they're not actually
misleading people now don't get me wrong
we know in the world of a YouTube
YouTube's one of those places where the
titles are often dramatic and then we've
got to actually get through the content
well in the case of Tesla they did
exactly what people dislike on YouTube
in person they provided an investor day
title but what they really did was
provide sort of a margin update and an
update on how we're going to scale and
at the same time reduce costs in the
long term with a lack of detail on time
frames those were a slap in the face to
investors in the short term because
without time frames without an organized
presentation without exact information
on hey here's how all of this
coordinates together it's kind of on the
World to sort of pick up the pieces and
go okay like that sounds good that
sounds good okay how can we put this
together and how does this align with
projections for time frames or when are
these actually going to get incorporated
into future factories and gigafactories
what what are the expectations we should
actually start pricing in right without
that you're not actually creating an
investor Day presentation you're doing
more of a hey by the way here's how
we're looking at innovating in the
future but we've really got little
insights in terms of timing or time
frames for investors and that's why you
think Elon Musk himself said this isn't
for investors like shareholders this is
actually for investors in earth right
for that sustainable Master Plan Three
now that's fantastic for a long-term
investor don't get me wrong I find
myself to be one of the largest
long-term focused investors on the
platform now some people make fun of me
for that and they say oh really you're
the flip-flopper guy who've sold stocks
in 2022 and then rebought later but the
reality is anyone who looks back at that
decision and questions that decision is
living under a rock they are sticking
their head in the sand like a dumb
ostrich and is a complete idiot for
suggesting that I should not have sold
in early 2022 in January and that's
exactly what I did and I never bought a
single stock while suggesting that I
would sell right that I always thought I
was going to hold my stocks it wasn't
until I changed my opinion that I said
oh I'm not buying anymore I've got a big
change coming and within 12 hours of me
selling my stocks the entire world knew
about that that some people like to try
to suggest that oh somehow Kevin you
know didn't tell the world that uh that
he was selling and he was telling people
to buy while he was selling that never
happened it's a complete lie and that's
what I think is so fantastic about
YouTube because we can actually document
all of that timing and the beauty is
that people who suggest I'm short-term
focused Miss exactly what I'm actually
doing that is I'm so long-term focused I
run an active ETF that has almost a 30
allocation to Tesla a substantial
portion of my own personal portfolio is
invested in Tesla I don't care about the
short-term fluctuations I'm saying Tesla
is making a mistake and I'm frustrated
on the people who are affected by the
short term nobody could tell me that oh
Kevin bought a Jet because he's
short-term focused my jet my plane that
I personally signed for is a down
payment on what I believe will be a 10
to 50 billion dollar company in the
future the jet is me risking my entire
net worth and my livelihood today where
I could retire and never work again
today for an uncertain future 10 to 15
years from now
I can't think of anybody more long-term
focused than that that's what long-term
focus is so in response to anybody who
thinks oh Kevin's a frustrated
short-term minded retail investor you're
a complete because if you actually
look at the actions that I take and you
see what I describe I don't I I would be
hard-pressed to find anybody more
long-term focused than what I do and
yeah I changed my mind but that's
because I changed my mind for what is
going to create the best results in the
future and I think that's exactly what
Tesla's actually doing here
small micro flip-flops and adjustments
now actually lead to exponentially
better results in the future
short-term minded individuals forget
that small adjustments today expand to
massive order of magnitude changes in
the future and I think that's what
institutions are slowly starting to pick
up on and that's why we've got to look
at exactly what the institutions are
saying and we'll go ahead and start with
Morgan Stanley when it comes to Tesla
take a look at this so Morgan Stanley
essentially in the short term maintains
their price target of 220 dollars now I
personally think that's very interesting
because Morgan Stanley suggests we
seriously question how the competition
can keep up with Tesla now I completely
agree with that but I think it's very
fascinating that what institutions are
doing so far and we've just started with
institutions here is they're making it
clear that okay how is the competition
going to keep up but they're not
actually making any kind of changes to
their pricing targets now that's likely
because the outline that we got at
investor day didn't really connect those
dots yet at four most investors and it's
going to be a while before anybody I
think can really model the changes that
Tesla is talking about Beyond what's
already modeled most of Wall Street is
already modeling this idea that okay
7 to 10 million Vehicles by 2030 Tesla
thinks 20 million Vehicles we discount
that somewhere between 50 to 60 to 70
percent we get to Seven to uh 10 million
Vehicles by 2030. at a 50 cost reduction
fantastic we already get a model too
right we know that whether the model 2
is a newer smaller vehicle for the
Chinese market or whether it's just a
newly created model 3 branded as a model
2 that's made with essentially fifty
percent uh reduced cost but so in other
words I do think it's very very
difficult because of the lack of sort of
coordinated vision from Tesla's
presentation for folks to realize that
the small micro changes that are being
made the small adjustments so for
example if if we're on this trajectory
for Tesla or better yet even make it
sort of like if that's the trajectory
for Tesla right I think it's very
difficult for Wall Street to realize oh
okay Tesla just did that in terms of an
adjustment right that was really what
investor day was was sort of that little
adjustment like that by the way is how
we're revising going forward right and
so of course in the short term the
Market's like okay that's very difficult
for us to understand but the reality is
when you look in the long term what
happens is if you stay on the trajectory
this might be your growth if you
continue with the micro adjustments your
growth might be like this and then this
is actually where the bulk of the value
is created in the long term it's when
those small micro adjustments actually
compound to being something extremely
meaningful it's in in my opinion I see
this very personally in my life it's
like starting my real estate startup
househack starting and actively managed
ETF uh you know buying a jet that
enables me to do social media manage an
ETF conduct a deep high level uh and
deep dive research so both high level
and deep dive research and start what
could be in my opinion knock on wood no
guarantees a 10 to 50 billion dollar
company in the future right house high
like those are the little micro
adjustments that are happening right now
so I actually resonate a lot with Tesla
and and the the changes that they're
making for the long term and so in case
it's not abundantly clear what we heard
was fantastic from a long-term point of
view in the short term the inflections
seem so minor and because they were
uncoordinated and because the these
long-term benefits were not properly
explained I think it was a slap in the
face to investors and employees and
potentially new employees in the short
term the vision of Tesla could have
easily been coordinated without actually
providing exact details nobody's saying
hey you need to guarantee us oh the
model 2 was coming out you know January
1st 2025. nobody's suggesting that that
is what Tesla needed to do but
coordinating the vision is what was
missing from investor day and that's why
investor day really in my opinion was
essentially clickbait in the long term
fantastic we could see the adjustments
but for investors in the short term
oopsies but anyway let's keep going here
with what the institution said so Morgan
Stanley suggests that Master Plan 3
entails immense levels of vertical
integration and this vertical
integration will enable Tesla to iterate
far faster and with less waste than
other auto manufacturers this is
important minimizing that waste is
critical even to the point of and
institutions are picking up on this as
well moving from a 12 to 48 volt
architecture Burns less or I should say
ways less energy right because it can
operate more efficiently with
potentially smaller cabling you
potentially have less heat that that
escapes from the internal architecture
of the vehicle and these benefits
compound over time they might seem minor
in the short term but they compound over
time that is actually an idea that lucid
has been integrating into their vehicle
for a very very long time the idea that
we should operate these vehicles at
higher voltage voltages so that way we
could reduce amperages basic electrical
law anyway we believe customers or
rather consumers will one day look back
at electric vehicles from 2023 the way
we look back at cell phones from the
1980s remember Gordon gekko's phone when
he was on the beach out east in the
movie Wall Street Tesla wants to be the
largest manufacturer in the world by
some margin with that ambition achieving
cost leadership is deterministic in
other words without achieving cost uh
efficiency yeah end up screwed well
that's obvious and that's exactly what
Tesla's doing for the long term again
they didn't pull that picture together
for us but that's okay that's where I'm
trying to also will help pull the
picture together and I think that's what
people and media do that's why I
actually think it's very important that
we have the social media we have today
not mainstream media I think we're all
frustrated with most of mainstream media
but I think that's why we come to social
media is to get the perspective that
maybe isn't properly laid out by our
government well almost certainly not
properly laid out or in this case Tesla
we would expect to see most if not all
of today's Legacy auto company executive
teams study the materials presented
today and tour Giga Austin as they have
toured Tesla Fremont facilities in the
past Innovations brought to Market by
Tesla become the industry standard and
are ultimately used by all automakers
not unlike how Henry Ford was moving the
assembly line now this is really
interesting because you really have
Morgan Stanley again maintaining their
price Target and keeping their view of
Tesla in line but at the same time
they're saying oh my gosh nobody is
going to be able to compete with Tesla
so this is why we're making this video
right to coordinate and sort of
consolidate what is Wall Street taking
away from this it's also worth noting by
the way that shipments from Giga
Shanghai climbed to 74
402 and this is 74 402 Vehicles were
delivered from Shanghai last month that
is up 13 from the prior month it's down
off some of the very high numbers we saw
at the end of Q4 last year uh but uh but
but still finally returning to a larger
Trend as that main export facility for
Teslas
suppliers on watch I actually think this
is one of the reasons you saw uh MP
materials drop about 13 yesterday was
this talk about removing rare earth
materials from uh from Tesla's engines
was an immediate slap in the face to MP
materials and this is where it's it's in
my opinion quite ridiculous for people
to say that the short-term stock
movements or or short-term uh
occurrences uh don't matter to stocks
they absolutely do I mean look at this
you know what Tesla just did to MP
materials it's it's not just that the
stock fell eleven ten percent ten eleven
percent it's not just that you know what
Tesla just did to MP material they sent
a massive red flag to anyone working at
MP material solely focused on Rare Earth
minerals
that your days may be limited doubt has
just been cast on the jobs of anyone
working on rare Earths in uh magnet
motors which are basically electric
motors right electromagnet right electro
electric electricity and magnetism are
essentially the same Force it's kind of
cool actually if you've ever broken a
taken apart uh a a motor you'd know that
uh it's it's pretty fascinating how how
similar they are I mean they're
essentially the same Force it's awesome
I mean that's how generators work after
all right anywho so uh going back to
Morgan Stanley over here Morgan Stanley
says Tesla's on a mission to further
reduce part count mass weight and
complexity while bringing more
components in-house smaller and less
complex wire harnesses fewer silicon
carbide chips and the elimination of
rare Earths in permanent magnet motors
where a few examples provided during
investor day on the raw material side of
the quiet stream we still haven't seen
too terribly much detail in terms of
what Tesla exactly wants to do here
however what we did see is 20 different
Executives across all operational
disciplines now Morgan Stanley says no
teleprompters in my opinion it's
actually incorrect that there were sort
of preview screens in front of the
presenters it was very obvious that at
least one of the engineers was straight
up reading from the computer screen in
front of front of them and look that's
fine but let me just from sort of a
media point of view say you could take
all of the information from these
executives
but you need someone else there to
consolidate or to simplify what they're
saying for example this is how you could
make the presentation so much easier you
have one person talking about let's say
full self-driving right and they go into
the weeds of full self-driving this this
this and then you have somebody else it
could even be musk himself but anyone
somebody with a media mindset who comes
out and says now those are the details
here is the impact of what that means
what that means is we believe we are
five years at least five years ahead of
the competition we believe that because
it's taken X number of hours to train
our neural Nets an X number of miles
driven this is where the competition is
this is where we are now we also think
we're X percent closer to achieving full
self-driving for all vehicles without a
driver even present to where within the
next X number of years we think we can
release a vehicle with no steering wheel
now no guarantees yet but we are you
know 95 of the way there or whatever
right I'm making up some of the numbers
or leaving them as variables because
that's for Tesla to do but what they
need is a translator basically
and that's either going to be Tesla or
it's going to be potentially social
media right but it's more difficult for
it to be social media because we don't
have all of the extra answers to create
the impacts from that information it's
sort of like here's the platter of
information overload and nobody's really
tying it together in terms of okay how
does this actually Stack Up Now how how
close are we now to FSD right we don't
know because we didn't have somebody
consolidate that information that's my
frustration with Tesla don't get me
wrong the information is fantastic what
happened is fantastic but by skimping
out on somebody who can consolidate the
message much the way that Apple does at
an apple presentation
will you end up losing and you hurt
people and investors in the short term
that's why I think it's hilarious when
people say oh Kevin's just a short-term
mind investor
I I don't even need to continue to
defend that uh it's it's so ludicrous
nobody risks their entire net worth for
a startup if they're not a long-term
minded individual nobody throws
everything uh in their reputation onto
that startup or an actively managed ETF
or or you know a publicly flip-flops and
gets the world to hate them even though
they're doing what ultimately was the
right thing nobody does that if they
have a short-term minded Outlook right
if I had a short-term minded Outlook I'd
care more about subscribers and pleasing
everybody when the reality is what I do
is I provide my real opinion whether
that's on politics or stocks
I'm gonna keep doing that anyway uh
let's see here the non-avail of the
model two I mean I I didn't expect a
model 2 to get presented either neither
they did Barclays neither did Morgan
Stanley there were a lot of people who
did uh there was the cannibalization
argument that Barclays talked about that
they were not going to do this because
they could potentially cannibalize sales
in the future that's fine uh this this
is not that big of a deal it would have
been nice though to have sort of a rap
of okay got it so gen 3 50 less cost how
about like at least some kind of guide
like are we looking at end of the decade
the beginning of the 2030s are we
looking at you know 2027 like how about
I mean this could have in my opinion
been as simple as this you could have
one single slideshow uh a little and and
this is this is going to be my estimate
by the way right so it's this is going
to be my my speculation here but I think
you could have had uh one slide that
would have said something like this
here's our roadmap
we think uh a semi-truck uh full scale
by 2025
cyber truck uh full scale uh let's put
that actually right here and we'll call
this by let's say 2024.
uh cyber truck first delivery 2023 and
then what you could say something like
this is Mexico Giga 2024
uh complete right and then you go over
here and you say Mexico Giga uh would be
let's say uh ramping 2025. uh Mexico
Giga uh potentially releases first
you know next gen vehicle Q4 2025 Mexico
Giga ramps next gen vehicle 2026. uh you
know uh first first Optimus Optimus
robots on a floor by let's say 2027
right like this this kind of road map is
something that would not have been very
difficult for Tesla to give in my
opinion unfortunately that wasn't given
and again it doesn't have to be perfect
like we could we could say look we can't
guarantee this result but at least some
sort of vision of how does this all
stack together how does the Mexico
gigafactory fit in to the plan you know
we heard it was announced but we don't
know how it fits into the plan now we
think we know we think that batteries
are going to manufacture get
manufactured at Giga Texas and then
potentially go to Vehicles assembled in
the Mexico gigafactory at a lower cost
maybe with Optimus robots and at the
same time cheaper Mexican labor and when
you combine that you get the recipe for
potentially a model 2 with the parallel
processing that we learned about rather
than serial processing that's by the way
is a very important word so if you're a
Tesla investor you really have to know
this so see a parallel processing is
basically taking the car and moving it
from Station to Station to Station right
that's what cars do now the uh oh sorry
this is this is a series in series
processing my mistake that's in series
processing in parallel processing is
you're taking different components of
the vehicle and your manufacturing on
the you're essentially putting these
together at the same time so if this
direction here represents time then
rather than the product moving through
time the product at the same time is
manufactured you know in in just
separate parts so parts right
essentially the idea here is that now
you can have robots work on different
parts of the vehicle at the same time
you assemble it like Legos and you cut
the time down substantially that's
required for manufacturing these right
now unfortunately uh it doesn't seem
like that Tesla Optimus robot is
particularly close especially since what
individuals have posted online is a
close-up of the robot hand here and we
do see that the Optimus you know grabs
something here but what's quite odd is
when you look at this closely it
actually looks like this uh this hose
here uh it's a it's a hose sleeve
for what looks like maybe you know I
don't know 14 16 gauge wiring you can
see that gauged wiring right here it's
very small I mean this is like sort of
the typical wiring that you might see uh
for for uh you know up to a 120 volt
circuit or something like that but could
be even smaller but anyway it's covered
by this hose right here uh and it looks
like this is some sort of uh actuator
here or or Servo so to speak and uh the
idea here is that the Tesla Optimus can
already unplug this and it's sort of a
way of maybe unembarrassing the Optimus
presentation
the last time we had sort of the Optimus
event where you know it it was still
impressive to see okay Real World Vision
is coming to robots we know like this is
fantastic but it's still it wasn't the
best presentation right and so this
video is sort of an attempt to uh maybe
fix that by showing us a robot that that
appears to be able to walk and and
position its hand where this rope is or
this hose is the problem is this hose
begins to move well below well before
the Optimus actually makes contact with
the hose which actually implies that
there's an individual off camera to the
left over here who's actually pulling
the hose out of the actuator for the
robot uh and this is really more click
bait here from Tesla ready for this
watch very slowly
see look at that that cable pulls out
before
see look at right here right here
there's no contact made by the hands yet
right the hands are not really I mean we
can't tell that this is actually being
contacted yet yeah look right right here
okay there we go
how how does this actually start pulling
back
we don't know now some now maybe maybe
we're just getting a bad angle here but
why does it look as though somebody else
is potentially pulling it Maybe not
maybe maybe that fingertip is a lot
thicker than we think it is or there's a
larger piece of metal that's sort of the
inside of the hand here inside of the
finger that is actually lifting this but
there's some rumor that this is actually
a person who's pulled this plug out
because the plug actually seems to pull
out well before
the hand does anything look at that now
on this side so I've been at I've had
your attention here now I want your
attention to go to this plug over here
pay attention to the plug watch the plug
come out
before because I see your comments some
of you saying oh it lifts it up okay
yeah maybe maybe the metal stick right
here uh or or maybe it's possible Right
but now I want you to tell me if this
plug coming out is possible so pay
attention out to this plug okay ready
for this
watch the plug come out before the hand
moves to the left
and plug plugs come in right here plug
comes out right here
is it possible
that the plug comes out because the
finger puts so much pressure on the hose
that the plug starts coming out yes it's
possible but it looks like the plug is
just floating out of there before the
hand actually really pulls
right and the other thing now part three
is watch this motion where the hose gets
joint almost before the hand pulls back
okay look at this in this Frame that
you're about to see yoink it's it's
almost as if it's happening before the
hand is actually appropriately moving
back now we're not sure maybe it is
possible it is possible that there's a
lot of tension on this piece right here
and if there's a lot of tension on this
piece uh and on the hose maybe it comes
flinging out when there's enough
pressure put on this by the fingers to
pull it out of the socket maybe maybe
but then again then again we do know
that there has been a reputation of
Tesla to kind of show things that aren't
really working yet just for the
excitement Factor now in the future it
will work so it's fine it's not a big
deal but again what would have been nice
would have been a little bit more Vision
around the idea of hey look you know
this is where we've gotten to now with
the Optimus we think the Optimus is
going to be on the floor of a factory
doing stuff like this or at least in Bay
data as soon as 2024 right like you
don't need to give us guarantees you
don't have to give us absolute exacts
but put the puzzle together for people
that's what's missing and that's because
Tesla's not investing in a media person
or a media Department really here right
it's sort of just like here we'll put it
all on the plate and we'll sort of let
social media or the mainstream media run
rampant anyway let's keep going here
with some of the investor information so
we did learn that the uh the powertrain
might go down to about a thousand a
dollar cost per vehicle electric
architecture uh this is where they talk
about a 16x reduction in lost power by
moving potentially from a 12 volt
architecture to 48 volt architecture
it's important to know that when they
say here reducing current uh Factor by
4X that does not actually mean really
anything the only thing that matters is
the potential lack of waste because if
you increase the voltage you will
increase the yeah or if you increase the
voltage you will decrease the amperage
but the wattage is the same the power
used is the same the only thing you save
is potentially having a more efficient
wiring system that releases less heat so
potentially that's where you save the
energy but from a formulaic point of
view just because you increase the
voltage does not make the system more
efficient it's just in potentially the
fact that there's less heat that's
important think about actually why
Europe uses the 240 volt architecture
it's not like when you go plug in a
microwave in Europe it's using more
power than American uh uh microwaves
it's using the same wattage a thousand
watt microwave over there is the same as
a thousand watt microwave over here
that's important to remember the
difference though is if you have more
efficient wiring you could potentially
use thinner wires because they don't
need to be as overheat rated and that's
how you could potentially make building
and construction more efficient by
having the entire property constructed
out of a 240 volt wiring system it also
means you have 240 volt plugs everywhere
so if you want to plug in a washing
machine or an electric dryer or a stove
you don't have to run a different set of
cabling for that like you do here in
America now it's not to be confused with
people who take an American hair dryer
that's designed for 120 a volt system
and plug it into a 240 volt system with
a converter in Europe yeah that thing's
going to glow and look like it's using a
whole lot more power that's because it's
drawing twice as much power as it's
designed for it okay but again the
efficiency here is is really not in the
formulaic change it's potentially in
that the wiring would would lead to a
reduction in sort of wasted energy okay
that's fine again lucid's been doing
that
robot was able to provide a perform
menial tasks as originally intended
that's fine we saw that and we just
commented on this I did like the
estimate that there would be potentially
more than one humanoid for every human
at the factory I did think that was
actually fantastic and I really enjoyed
that uh that that sort of forecast so
I'm going to go through just some some
more of those the main parts of Wall
Street here mega pack can connect to any
grid globally it's the most energy dense
Solution on the market at upwards of 300
megawatts per acre megawatt hours mega
pack is 2x more energy dense than a
traditional power plant fantastic should
Tesla be able to hit the cost targets
outlayed today when coupled with OP X
discipline we find it hard to see a way
in which Legacy automakers can compete
with Tesla in terms of EV profitability
that right here is a fantastic line
Morgan Stanley is saying we find it hard
to find a way for it for legacies to
compete with Tesla we already know that
Ford is not expected to be profitable
until 2026 and they're already miserably
failing GM is probably also not
profitable uh and we're not even talking
about profitable we're talking about
wildly unprofitable right it's kind of
like rivian when we looked at the rivian
numbers they are spending on a net basis
three hundred thousand dollars to make
an 82 000 car as of their Q4 earnings on
a gross basis they are spending two
hundred thousand dollars per vehicle to
make an eighty two thousand dollar car
it's incredible okay but anyway uh so
they are maintaining their price target
of 220 for 2023
pretty low no no changes here on price
Target from Morgan Stanley uh we've got
Bank of America suggesting that the
presentation was a little light on
details they're also maintaining their
25 uh 225 Target uh it's worth noting
that again when they talk about being
light on details they're really talking
about uh combining the vision where like
the dates that I talked about I think
are actually realistic the dates that I
gave but Tesla should be the one putting
that Vision out so that way we know what
are they working towards I can guess all
day long but what are they working
towards it's kind of like when Elon Musk
poo pooed the idea of the copy and paste
that's fine but that's the first time
we've seen him poo poo that idea okay
fine don't copy and paste make every
gigafactory different fine then maybe
that aligns with the idea that maybe the
Mexico gigafactory is for the model too
maybe there's another gigafactory that's
for the Optimus robot right and that the
gigafactories are just basically tuned
to different purposes maybe that's why
Elon Musk seem to kind of shake his head
at that idea that's fine but again
immediate person could combine all those
details that's why it's middle finger
for short term purposes long term I mean
I I don't think I don't I I would
venture to say there's nobody more
bullish uh on on YouTube at least uh uh
than me so uh Sandy Monroe uh now what's
interesting is he's extremely bullish
but at least when I had my last
interview with him and I'm going to talk
to him this April about that uh likely
when we meet together is he was was an
argue he was he was Pro not investing in
uh Tesla stock uh during the time of my
interview which maybe ended up being a
good thing I don't think that anyone
could have predicted that Elon Musk was
going to dump as much as he did for
Twitter but uh but it'll be interesting
to sort of get his updated perspective
on that so uh um Sandy Monroe said
something very interesting though he
says uh he says and this is why I want
to ask him he says he's putting his
money not booting his money he says I'm
putting my money on uh Tesla as model 2
the 25 000 vehicle basically being Like
the Model T and the beetle not an
expensive luxury car but a mass-produced
style of car that everybody can afford
that was the idea of the Model T that
was the idea of the Volkswagen Beetle
that everybody could afford it and Sandy
thinks that's uh that's likely to be
essentially the model too and we're not
clear if that'll be a smaller vehicle
but anyway uh the Bank of America
maintaining their 225. let's jump into
Barclays three Barclays all right let's
go to Goldman Sachs first so here's
Goldman Sachs the bottom line is we
believe the event the event should
increase investor confidence in Tesla's
ability to reduce cost by 50 with its
next-gen platform however we believe
many investors were hoping for more
specifics on when a third gen vehicle
could begin shipping and therefore the
lack of clarity beyond the comment that
they're working as fast as they can
could be viewed as a disappointment to
some I agree that's exactly problem
again the content fantastic the summary
bad now unfortunately their 12-month
price Target here is 200 so they
actually see more near-term downside now
I think that's kind of remarkable uh
because they actually think and this
blows my mind they actually think
that Tesla is going to grow EPS
negatively in 2024 3. this year they
think Tesla's EPS will be negative in
2023.
okay all right whatever uh and then and
then go back to maybe 50 to 20 growth in
the next few years
uh so you know somebody here nightclub
says I don't think they want to put out
a date because it's never met and it
hurts investors I disagree with that
highly I actually think it's very
important to put out a date because it
actually creates the pressure to achieve
close to that date right if you come out
and say let me put it this way okay
think about it this way everybody does
this everybody on a human level can do
this
oh I'm gonna start working out and I'm
gonna get buff or whatever or I'm gonna
exercise more and we tell ourselves that
yet when do we actually do it we
generally don't right most of us don't
and it's just the way it is where we go
once in a while oh we're going to eat
better right well if we actually set a
goal I will have lost X weight by X date
well now you measure your performance
towards that date and even if you miss
it you're more likely to have performed
substantially better leading up to that
date than if you didn't actually set a
goal date setting a goal date and
communicating a goal date now actually
unifies Tesla staff at all right might
be ambitious but let's try to make it
happen when you just do ah we're doing
our best you take the pressure off you
should never take the pressure off it's
like my goals with house hack my goal
with house hack is to and again no
guarantees is to IPO an extremely
profitable company that could be in my
opinion worth billions of dollars in the
future
before the end of the decade before I I
don't want to get into the 2030s without
it having IPO now I don't know what's
going to happen who knows maybe there'll
be a market crash in 2029 and it's not
going to make sense I have no idea
what's going to happen right but I'm
setting goals and so I think it's
important to set goals and then hold
yourself accountable to those if you
miss that's okay then just provide a new
update what changed how are we doing in
an adjusted time frame I think setting
time frames is actually extremely
important and this this idea that oh
well you know they always miss their
time frame so let's just stop doing time
frames is a ludicrous example uh or a
ludicrous suggestion for for goal
setting I mean that basically says don't
set goals because you miss all your
goals anyway you know don't don't try to
strive and Achieve something because
you're gonna fail anyway that's a
defeatist point of view that's the worst
way to look at it time frames are very
very very important uh goal setting very
very very very very important you know
send McGuire here says Tesla and Time
Flame frames and and says uh clown clown
clown that's fine you you can argue all
you want that Tesla clowns with its time
frames but setting time frames and goals
is extremely important anyway Goldman
Sachs gives a little bit of a summary of
some of the things that we saw you know
where we're going to see reductions in
fossil fuel we use the big one getting
the grid to Renewables the next big one
EVS I actually thought it was very
interesting that moving planes and boats
2 EV would actually only lead to about a
five percent reduction in fossil fuels
showing you that most of the reduction
of fossil fuels comes from moving the
grid to Renewables and then moving EVS
to Renewables I thought that was really
interesting because like I would love to
use less jet fuel like first of all it's
expensive uh and and you know from uh
from like uh from from the point of view
of efficiency I mean it's fast but it
burns a lot of fuel you know how much
fuel a Boeing 747 Burns
so when when people ask hey how many
miles to the gallon does a Boeing 747
get you actually have to flip it around
it's actually about I believe when I
last look I have to get fact check it's
it's two to five but I'm gonna go with
five because I think that's what it is
it's about five gallons per mile
for a Boeing 747 to fly around that's
crazy
five gallons per mile for a Boeing 747
to fly around right very very so so I
initially thought like wow okay I
thought like Freight and and planes
would would actually be a great place
for efficiency but probably because
there are so many more cars and so many
more grids that's actually not uh the
way to look at it now fortunately I see
what I I'm not trying to like Pat myself
on the back but I purposefully wanted to
get a smaller plane to be as efficient
as possible I could have spent more
money and had a plane that's larger sit
more people but I don't need more people
in it uh my fuel burn on my plan is
about 165 gallons uh per hour and that
works out to roughly about 3.5 miles per
gallon uh so not great it's pretty low
but then again you're going 565 miles
per hour roughly at Max Speed there's
some takeoff considerations there and it
changes some of the averages a little
bit uh but but a larger plane that we
were also considering last year
especially would have gotten about one
mile per gallon uh yeah what would have
gotten about one mile per gallon so
we're like yeah let's try to be we get
it let's try to be as efficient as
possible but anyway I just mentioned
that because I think it's interesting I
don't think people generally think about
like how many miles per gallon planes
actually get uh and uh and then at the
same time I thought it was very
interesting how uh moving uh planes and
boats to sustainability full
sustainability would only lead to a five
percent reduction fossil fuels that was
interesting I get it like on a per
vehicle basis it's not as great but from
from uh from an overall uh energy
sustainability standard it's probably
the last place to get innovated uh
because it has the least impact I
thought that was interesting anyway here
we talk about balancing the serial line
approach versus the parallel approach
how that could potentially lead to 40 44
better operator density and 30 better
space-time efficiency
uh some other efficiencies here we
didn't really get any kind of autonomy
targets talked a little bit about
charging and wanting to build more talk
about software Mega packs uh we talked
about implications here we go Goldman
Sachs bottom line is we believe this
event should increase investor
confidence in Tesla's ability to reduce
costs by 50 with its next-gen platform
given the breadth and depth of Tesla's
team and how its vertically integrated
model allows it to optimize on both cost
and performance however we believe many
investors were hoping for more specifics
on when a third generation vehicle could
be shipping and therefore the lack of
clarity beyond the comment that they're
working as fast as they could uh be in
the next couple of years is likely to be
viewed as a disappointment by some we
believe a couple of years would imply
the 2025 time frame and we continue to
believe later in 2025 would be more
probable probable I I actually agree
with about a 2026 for a model 2 time
frame I think that's very interesting
so let's see somebody here writes MPGs
for older people
[Laughter]
okay uh looking back can you explain
while by selling in January 22 was the
right thing when you had to pay taxes
and gains since buying back uh has a tab
blah blah blah okay so uh first of all
the absolutely the best decision I could
have made because I allocated my
portfolio from a large exposure to money
losing companies
to highly pricing power Centric
companies uh that in my opinion have
such high free cash flow that even in a
recession we are going to be able to
avoid real valuation compression now
things will be volatile but I would have
lost way more money had I not sold in
January of 2022 and told everybody about
that transparently I mean twice as much
it would have been it would have been
extremely painful now again I'm not
saying it was perfect
but I did my best to get away from money
losing companies and that was the
absolutely the right decision now when
you talk about taxes
and I made this clear for me my tax
situation is different than other people
I had the opportunity to buy a plane for
13 million dollars which eradicated all
of my capital gains from selling real
estate income and stocks
thank you tax system and specifically
Donald Trump who in 2017 through the tax
cut and jobs act expanded the
accelerated depreciation to 100 for
planes
yeah so anyway okay uh then we've got
one more over here so we've got Barclays
it's a fair question uh
uh let's see here
uh 2022 saved you from losing so much
money on those small company yeah small
companies got wrecked I mean there's
some companies that went down you know
90 95 and these are companies that I
warned hey like you don't want to hold
these suckers in a recession now some
people get mad at me they're like you
you said that was a good stock I'm like
yeah unless we go into a recessionary
environment that was like
was pretty clear about that but that's
okay people want to have somebody to
blame and that's fine so Tesla investor
day master plan 3 leveraging Tesla DNA
to achieve Mass scale so I I don't want
to read every part of the Barclays one
here so we're just going to go to some
of the highlights Tesla's looking at a
balance of parallel and serial
production we talked about that uh I
thought this was interesting they talk
about demonstrating bench strength by by
showing all of these these 13 additional
people who generally don't show up on uh
on earnings calls so I thought that was
very interesting and we expect the
Mexico plant to use battery cells
produced in Austin to make sure they
achieve a full tax credits from the
inflation reduction act now this was
also interesting they talk about
potential upside on deliveries they talk
about the idea that Tesla actually
produced 277 000 approximately units
through q1 2023 so far and that's about
two-thirds of their 20 their q1 estimate
of 423 vehicles and that suggests a
modest ahead of estimate scale although
we are kind of like two-thirds through
the season so but anyway they say that's
because of the production impacts from
the Chinese New Year and the slowdown in
January could actually mean they'll end
up beating production estimates for q1
good to know that's a little bullish on
q1 earnings right there uh limited color
provided on financials was disappointing
for some optimistic tone about uh about
uh raw materials yeah and I think that's
really a big big argument there is that
Tesla's not terribly worried about uh
you know this uh this the the future of
availability of lithium and otherwise
thinks uh they'll end up uh they'll end
up being just fine essentially on the
Commodities Factor so I think that's
quite fascinating uh and quite useful so
I think that gives us sort of a a deep
dive clarification and summary from not
only institutions but also for me on
Tesla I could not be more bullish until
I've shown my price targets for Tesla
plenty of times I'm looking at well over
500 in that 500 to 600 range you could
say 525 to keep it simple for 2025. I
think it's a phenomenal investment uh
going forward obviously that's not
personalized Financial advice I am a
licensed financial advisor I run an
actively managed ETF I you know I I have
a real estate startup I do a lot of
crazy things uh that you know look crazy
now but I think we're going to be
awesome in the long term but um yeah I
mean I'm a big fan so I I want to make
that as clear as possible
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