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0:00

All right, listen. I am pumped to be

0:02

here. Um, this is this is a pinch me

0:05

moment for me. Um, uh, I'm going to pick

0:08

on Todd real quick. Um, we're dear

0:10

friends now, but I'm going to. But I I

0:12

want to start this out by basically

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saying that like to not give up. To not

0:18

give up, right? So, I have submitted to

0:20

all things open for for the last five

0:22

years.

0:24

I have got rejected after rejected after

0:28

rejected after rejected after reject.

0:32

That's five. If y'all can't keep count,

0:34

I went South Carolina where, you know,

0:36

math did great. And finally,

0:40

finally, thank you. It's basically you

0:42

and my wife laughing at my jokes.

0:44

Basically, the six I for last year, I

0:47

almost did not submit.

0:50

That's not funny, but I appreciate your

0:52

support. I almost didn't submit. I was

0:55

like, you know what? Let's do it. Why

0:58

not? So, I submitted. I got accepted to

1:01

talk, right? That's cool. Talk last

1:04

year. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

1:05

Appreciate it. Appreciate it. It's not

1:06

We're not punchline quite yet. Not punch

1:08

line quite yet, but I appreciate that.

1:10

Then

1:12

I kind of stayed in touch with Todd.

1:14

Then basically, this is not part of my

1:15

talk, so I'm gonna have to fly through

1:16

this thing. But basically, Todd then

1:19

asked me to come speak uh a few months

1:21

ago at Fidelity. Anybody at that meetup?

1:24

Cool. That's that same talk. So, you can

1:25

zone out for the next 15 minutes, right?

1:28

I texted my wife on the way there. And I

1:32

was like, I think Todd is auditioning me

1:35

for to keynote at his event. Three weeks

1:37

later, Todd texted me and said, hey,

1:39

would love for you to keynote day two of

1:41

the conference. I said, absolutely.

1:42

Listen, I will tell you this. I know

1:45

this is a small microcosm of things, but

1:48

listen, do not give up. You are one

1:50

email away. You are one DM away. You are

1:53

just one action away

1:57

from changing the trajectory of your

1:59

career. Again, my name is Taylor Destin.

2:00

I'm VP of global community at

2:02

torque.dev. And listen, I'm not going to

2:04

talk about MCPs. I'm not going to talk

2:06

about Goose. Angie, I love you. Also,

2:09

it's terrifying to go after Angie, by

2:11

the way. I love Angie to death. Have the

2:12

utmost respect for her. I tweet I was

2:13

like, "Oh god, I'm going after Angie."

2:16

What I'm going to talk about for you

2:17

today is I'm going to go over some

2:18

pretty useless statistics that but I put

2:21

in there to like, you know, gain

2:22

credibility on my slides for y'all to

2:24

pay attention to me. But basically, I'm

2:26

going to talk to you about the rest of

2:29

of really your career and how you should

2:31

position it with AI. So, who am I? I'm a

2:34

father. I'm a husband. I have a

2:37

beautiful 5-year-old daughter named Ari.

2:39

I have a 14-month-old really handsome

2:41

son that takes after me. And surprise, I

2:45

have a third on the way. Uh, thank you.

2:48

Appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. YEAH. WAS NOT

2:52

PLANNED. WAS NOT PLANNED. UM, I I uh I

2:56

I'm a mediocre golfer. I'm about as good

2:58

as a golfer as like it looks in that

3:00

picture with the captions cutting it

3:02

off. Uh, I'm an ice hockey player. I

3:05

play in the A division in Nashville. We

3:07

are backto back league champions. I have

3:09

a miniature dog and a miniature donkey

3:11

and four horses and live on 15 acres and

3:13

I love my family dearly. And shout out

3:16

to my wife Jackie for allow me to be

3:18

here and supporting me and the kids uh

3:20

to speak. Yeah. Yeah. Give it up.

3:23

All right. I want to talk about Torque.

3:26

What is Torque? We are a community first

3:28

talent marketplace. Listen, we are so

3:30

passionate about community. We are the

3:33

next evolution I would say of staffing

3:36

companies, right? What's the biggest

3:37

gripe about staffing companies today? I

3:40

talked to a recruiter and they never got

3:42

back to me. How many of y'all have had

3:44

that experience? Raise your hand. Look

3:46

around. It's common. You know what we're

3:49

trying to do at Torque? We're trying to

3:50

single-handedly change that for the

3:52

entire industry through Ronstad Digital.

3:54

Ronstad Digital bought Torque as the

3:57

marketplace, as the platform. And my

3:59

entire job is to make sure you feel

4:01

loved on. My community team is here,

4:03

Briana and Jason. Uh uh please stop by

4:06

our booth. We run four to seven uh

4:10

virtual events a week on resumeé

4:11

reviews, career help. Anybody in our

4:14

resume review session yesterday? Yeah.

4:16

Absolutely unhinged, right? Absolutely

4:18

unhinged. Um we booked out 4 hours of

4:22

resume reviews at our booth today.

4:24

Somebody sent me cold brew. If you want

4:26

to at least see people get their resume

4:28

reviewed, we would love to have you

4:30

there. Um but again, I would love for

4:33

you to sign up on our jobs platform. But

4:34

if you want to pull out your phones real

4:36

quick, scan this. Uh my entire job

4:39

depends on how many people uh sign into

4:41

our platform. So please do that for the

4:42

love of Jesus. Do that for me.

4:46

Also, if you want to email me after

4:48

this, I'll send you the sides. Taylor

4:50

torque.dev.

4:52

Um and we'll move on. Also, I should

4:54

have brought up that QR code up. That's

4:56

my QR code to get access to everything I

4:58

have going on. All right. So, what I

4:59

want to get across say hiring in tech is

5:01

not dead.

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It's not Deb. No matter what the

5:05

headlines are saying, do not sleep on

5:07

the startup ecosystem for your next

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opportunity.

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I was brought up in kind of just this

5:13

like, hey, big tech controls all, you

5:15

know, big, you know, you got to work for

5:17

a SAS company, you got to work for a

5:19

tech company. Listen, I know people work

5:22

in software in the A space that are

5:24

making way more money than some people

5:26

in big tech, right? There are other

5:28

industries out there. the big, like I

5:30

said, big tech gets the headlines, but

5:32

the hiring is happening. And I truly

5:35

believe, we are entering in to the new

5:39

age of the internet, right? So, let's

5:42

talk tech hiring real quick. Listen,

5:43

it's going up, y'all. Also, by the way,

5:45

I didn't read Todd's directions.

5:48

Shocker, a man not reading directions.

5:50

Um, and I had to put all of my slides

5:53

from Keynote into Google Slides this

5:54

morning, so that was cool. All right, so

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let's talk about some hiring stats.

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Again, you can Google all this stuff. To

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me, all I want to show is this. AI job

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postings are up 7x since 2024. I also

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want to tell you that I have friends

6:10

landing jobs right now. Is Lawrence

6:11

Lockhart in here? Lawrence? Lawrence,

6:15

where you at? I don't see you. Oh, well.

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Anyways, uh I interviewed him on my

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podcast. He found a job in 89 days.

6:23

Okay. People are still getting jobs,

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but you actually have to do the damn

6:29

thing. Excuse my cursing. All right,

6:32

let's move on. However, you're probably

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like, "Well, Taylor, listen. At the end

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of the day,

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I do know it's not perfect." You're

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right. It's not perfect. Let's talk

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about what's chipping away at hiring

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right now. First off, the great

6:44

hesitation. Anybody heard that term?

6:46

Anybody heard that term? Okay, great

6:48

hesitation. Basically what that is, how

6:50

many of y'all have gone through and uh

6:53

gone through five rounds of an interview

6:54

lately um and uh never heard back. Raise

6:57

your hand and say I.

6:59

>> I.

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>> There you go. Few of y'all, right? I'm

7:01

learning some things. I'm learning some

7:03

things here. Right. That's the great

7:04

hesitation. Even it's happened to me. My

7:07

team, we specked out a program manager

7:09

role last year. I was like, "Oh, we're

7:10

ready to rip and roll." My finance guy

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goes, "Nope." I'm like, "Damn." All

7:13

right. So again more emphasis on ladam

7:18

near shoring listen it's happening right

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I I think a lot of companies are

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understanding there's a lot of amazing

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talent we do a lot in ladam we love our

7:26

ladam community we do a lot in that area

7:30

um but that is that's absolutely

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chipping away at hiring the US listen I

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still think we're dealing with the

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overhiring in 2022 and I truly believe

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AI has a marketing problem the reason

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why people are getting laid off is not

7:43

because of AI I we as human beings like

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to blame things.

7:48

Just call it what it is. We like to put

7:50

blame on things. And at the end of the

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day, the blame should be the overhiring

7:54

that happened in 2022. It's not AI.

7:57

Okay. Now, I could get into micro

7:59

arguments with you or probably some

8:01

people have thoughts on, but find me

8:02

afterwards and we could talk because I'm

8:04

gonna be honest with you. I'm already

8:05

running out of time. All right. Let's

8:06

talk about AI real quick. Yep. That AI.

8:09

So, listen. Again, a bunch of data that

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you can probably argue or disagree with

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or find elsewhere. But the the big thing

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I want to uh focus on is AI related job

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titles have surged 7x from last year.

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So, job postings, job titles are through

8:24

the roof. Anybody in here raise your

8:26

hand and say I that grew up SAILING

8:32

one guy. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. All

8:33

right. Two. Right. So, so three. So, so

8:37

if uh I got four um so basically when

8:39

you sail when you sail the wind's coming

8:42

at you and you can't go into the wind.

8:46

Everybody understand that concept? All

8:48

right. So, what my talk is, and we still

8:51

got a lot to get through, is navigating

8:53

and where the wind's going, right? My

8:55

thing is here is you got to you got to

8:57

see where the wind's going. And it's

8:59

absolutely racing and signaling that AI

9:03

is here to stay. Here's just another

9:04

stat that really doesn't matter because

9:06

of time. Uh let's talk big tech again at

9:08

the end of the day. I want to read

9:10

there's a lot again. We're talking about

9:11

we're talking about wind air, right?

9:13

Where where's it going? Listen, let's

9:15

read between the lines here. Microsoft

9:17

plans 80 billion in AI spend while

9:19

laying off 9,000. Amazon plans hundred

9:22

billion dollar in data centers in AI

9:23

development while laying off 22. Meta

9:26

you can you can read. Okay. Right. So

9:29

again, where's the wind going? Right.

9:32

It's obvious AI is here to stay, but I

9:35

do think I I do think that uh the the

9:38

internet is changing. You need to get

9:39

with let's talk startups. So again, I

9:42

was not really accustomed to the startup

9:43

ecosystem and and and for me, one thing

9:46

I've realized is that investments are

9:48

through the roof right now. Here's some

9:49

other stats, right? US startup funding

9:51

for the first half of 2025 is up 75.6

9:54

year-over-year. M&A activity for the

9:56

first half of the year for 2025 is over

9:59

a hundred billion. Right? There is a lot

10:01

of activity going on in the startup side

10:03

of things, right? So, you're like,

10:04

Taylor, this is a lot of information.

10:06

Give me some good news. Say less, fam. I

10:08

got you. You're not behind. Everybody

10:10

look to your neighbor to the left or

10:11

right of you and say, "OH, LORD, YOU NOT

10:12

BEHIND." Say it to the neighbors to the

10:14

left or right of you. Oh, Lord, you're

10:15

not behind.

10:17

All right. However, this does remind me

10:18

of a trend. Uh, I'm not technical, but

10:21

I've been staffing the internet since

10:23

2011.

10:25

I was staffing whennet

10:28

MVC came out. That was wild, right? We

10:32

went from like VB.NET to C. We went from

10:35

Net Web Forms. We have time. You can go

10:38

a little Sweet. Awesome. Sick. How much

10:41

time do I have

10:44

>> left?

10:46

>> Okay. Sweet. Awesome. Awesome. All

10:48

right. Well, hopefully I'm not boring

10:49

people yet. I don't see too many people

10:50

on their phones. If you are, come back

10:52

to me, please. We're almost done.

10:54

However, this does remind me of a trend.

10:56

Anybody uh anybody uh raise your hand

10:59

and heard of a technology and say I with

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React.

11:03

>> That's cool, right? That's where we're

11:06

at. I th this reminds me

11:11

of when React dropped.

11:14

People lost their damn minds, right? We

11:17

had people jumping on React, creating

11:18

content around React. They were React

11:21

afficionados,

11:24

right?

11:26

And then there was others.

11:28

React's a fad. It's not here to stay.

11:32

Stupid. I'm going to stick doing jQuery,

11:36

right? I don't know if that's real. I'm

11:38

not technical, but I can just say things

11:39

and get away with it. So, uh, so again,

11:42

like listen, but the individuals who

11:44

learn React, who pivoted quickly,

11:49

they're the ones that have continued to

11:51

find success when that transition

11:53

happened. Right. I truly believe that's

11:55

where we're at. All right, so Taylor,

11:56

you're like, "WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? THIS

11:57

IS GREAT. I LOVE YOUR ENERGY. Why are

11:59

you yelling? I've had two cold brews

12:01

this morning off no food. It's great."

12:03

Uh, this drugs, basically. All right, so

12:05

let's talk what we do next. Is it time

12:07

to pivot?

12:08

Listen, Angie Jones,

12:12

Ken C. Dods, anybody heard of him?

12:14

Probably. Ken Cy Dods, Remix, React.

12:18

What is he now? MCP This MCP That, Angie

12:20

Jones, Java Queen. What are we now?

12:23

Goose

12:24

MCP. I don't know what these words mean,

12:26

but it's wild, right? So, I just get to

12:28

say this stuff. All right. All right.

12:30

Next thing. So, IS IT TIME TO PIVOT? I

12:32

DON'T KNOW. YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF

12:34

THAT.

12:36

I got in a conversation yesterday with

12:38

the Whiskey Web and whatnot, Robbie the

12:39

podcast. Check it out if you have not.

12:42

But one thing we talked about is is is

12:44

me and my business partner Jason Torres.

12:47

I don't know if you can go to a boot

12:49

camp as a mer stack developer and find a

12:52

job as easy anymore.

12:55

I just I just don't see it.

12:59

I will say this. Look where the wind's

13:02

going.

13:04

Talk to people in your fields.

13:06

What's Sally Sue doing? That's

13:08

interesting,

13:10

right? I think too many of us and listen

13:15

mind you I have talked

13:18

with probably close to hundreds of

13:20

thousands of engineers at this point in

13:21

my career. I'm not lying.

13:25

Some of y'all are too stubborn.

13:30

All right. Kind of get amen. All right.

13:33

Right. So again like be aware. Right.

13:36

Let's talk to people. Right. Let's not

13:37

be stubborn. Now's not the time to be

13:40

stubborn,

13:41

right? Find online communities. Listen,

13:44

I'm gonna plug torque.dev. Would love to

13:46

have you. We would love to have you. I

13:49

think we have probably one of the best

13:51

communities out there in terms of how to

13:54

help people find a job. Thank you for

13:56

the two followers we have.

13:59

Right. Find find individuals who have

14:02

communities. I'm a big fan of Ben Lang.

14:03

Anybody heard of Ben Lang? He's the head

14:05

of community for Kurser.

14:07

Right.

14:08

He formed a startup community called

14:10

Nextplay. I pay 10 BUCKS A MONTH. I

14:13

DON'T EVEN USE IT, but I'm just in there

14:16

to see who's what's doing what.

14:19

Be a part of a community. If you're not,

14:20

you're falling behind. Listen, I will

14:22

tell you this. This is special.

14:26

This does not happen normally. You

14:28

understand that, right?

14:31

So, if you see Todd, if you see Danny,

14:33

if you see the team today, tell them

14:35

thank you.

14:37

This is where the magic happens. We had

14:39

somebody attend a Torque event Sunday

14:40

night. He came up to me. He goes, "Do I

14:42

think I got a job offer?"

14:45

Not surprising. This is where it

14:47

happens. Right? Anybody uh single, say,

14:51

"I."

14:52

>> I'm trying to help y'all out here. Say,

14:54

"I." Y'all look around. Like like like

14:58

like like what's the ongoing joke,

15:00

right? No one's going to jump through

15:02

your window to date you.

15:05

That's robbery.

15:09

You have to go out and find that person.

15:13

You're not going to change the

15:16

trajectory of your career sitting at

15:18

home flipping through Netflix.

15:22

Be more efficient. Take responsibility

15:24

of your career. Also, find a mentor.

15:27

Listen, this something I'm extremely

15:28

happy about. Yeah, we got another I like

15:31

you. What's your name?

15:33

>> Oh, there you go. That's awesome. She's

15:35

great. She's great. Uh, find a mentor.

15:38

Listen, this is what I'm super

15:39

passionate about at Torque. If you go to

15:41

torque.com community, that's our

15:43

community page, torque. Community. Uh,

15:46

if you need that again, torque.com

15:48

community, we haven't we we have opened

15:51

up our ambassador

15:53

signups. We have opened up our mentor

15:55

mentee signups. single most thing I am

15:57

passionate about for 2026 is making sure

16:00

we have a team that is passionate about

16:01

spreading the word of torque and a and a

16:03

and a badass mentor mentee program that

16:06

is fundamentally taking care of the next

16:08

generation of engineers. So, if you are

16:11

a mentor or if you're a senior engineer

16:13

and you've always wanted a place where

16:15

somebody can just give you structure,

16:16

Jason, again, uh my colleague Jason

16:19

Torres is over here. He's helping head

16:20

that up. Would love to have you part of

16:22

it. If you're if you're somebody who

16:23

wants a mentor, please go sign up

16:25

torque.com community. All right, job

16:27

boards. Listen, you can email me. You

16:29

could I also just freaking chat GPT

16:31

this, right? It's not hard. Just go find

16:33

I see I see some of y'all taking

16:34

pictures. Just chat GPT AI job boards.

16:37

Not hard. All right. Other steps used to

16:39

do use X. Use X for the love of the

16:44

Lord. Get on X.

16:47

Taylor, it's stupid. There's politics on

16:50

it. People are dumb. Yeah, it's social

16:53

media, man. You see Facebook lately,

16:59

right? Listen, I can't tell you. Even

17:02

Brian Brian Douglas, met him on Twitter,

17:04

slid into his DMs, he come my podcast.

17:06

Angie Jones came on my podcast. Slid in

17:08

her DMs on on on Twitter. Get on

17:11

Twitter. Follow industry experts. Follow

17:14

lists. Create your list. There's a

17:16

something called a list. We can talk

17:17

about it later. Right? Use X, right?

17:20

Build in public. Listen, you do

17:22

understand that you can just start

17:24

talking about the same day in,

17:28

sorry, day out and you can be known for

17:31

that.

17:33

Literally, you could be junior. There's

17:36

this girl in our Discord. Her name's

17:38

Naz. She's junior. SHE'S YAPPING ABOUT

17:42

PYTHON 247. Guess what? I know her as

17:44

now. Python queen, right? It's crazy.

17:49

TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. Be known

17:51

for that. Taylor, I don't know a skill

17:52

set. NEITHER DO I. I AM A TECHNICAL

17:54

recruiter keynoting,

17:57

but I have yapped about helping people

17:59

find a job in the development tech

18:01

industry for 14 years.

18:05

You have no excuse. Side note, my dad is

18:07

65 years old and is posted on LinkedIn

18:09

in the restaurant industry, so none of

18:10

y'all have an excuse. Also, look at job

18:13

descriptions. We're almost done. We're

18:15

almost done. Look at job descriptions

18:16

here. You're probably like, "Taylor, I'm

18:18

so lost. I don't know what skills to

18:20

learn." The answer to the test is on the

18:23

internet. Look at job descriptions. What

18:26

are people wanting? Right, Taylor? I

18:28

don't know what to learn to jump that to

18:30

an AI engineer.

18:33

Look, chat GPT it. It's amazing, right

18:38

y'all? I just want to say thank you.

18:40

This was an unbelievable experience. I

18:42

would love to connect with you. Again, I

18:44

don't know if my QR code even worked

18:46

with that down there, but again, taylor

18:48

torque.dev is my email. I'm Tesen on all

18:52

of my social media handles. My next

18:54

talk, there you go, if you want to scan

18:55

that. My next talk is at 11:30, room

18:58

206. It's going to be a more unhinged

19:01

version of this.

19:05

Thank you. I love you. Appreciate it.

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