the future of ai in your career
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All right, listen. I am pumped to be
here. Um, this is this is a pinch me
moment for me. Um, uh, I'm going to pick
on Todd real quick. Um, we're dear
friends now, but I'm going to. But I I
want to start this out by basically
saying that like to not give up. To not
give up, right? So, I have submitted to
all things open for for the last five
years.
I have got rejected after rejected after
rejected after rejected after reject.
That's five. If y'all can't keep count,
I went South Carolina where, you know,
math did great. And finally,
finally, thank you. It's basically you
and my wife laughing at my jokes.
Basically, the six I for last year, I
almost did not submit.
That's not funny, but I appreciate your
support. I almost didn't submit. I was
like, you know what? Let's do it. Why
not? So, I submitted. I got accepted to
talk, right? That's cool. Talk last
year. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
Appreciate it. Appreciate it. It's not
We're not punchline quite yet. Not punch
line quite yet, but I appreciate that.
Then
I kind of stayed in touch with Todd.
Then basically, this is not part of my
talk, so I'm gonna have to fly through
this thing. But basically, Todd then
asked me to come speak uh a few months
ago at Fidelity. Anybody at that meetup?
Cool. That's that same talk. So, you can
zone out for the next 15 minutes, right?
I texted my wife on the way there. And I
was like, I think Todd is auditioning me
for to keynote at his event. Three weeks
later, Todd texted me and said, hey,
would love for you to keynote day two of
the conference. I said, absolutely.
Listen, I will tell you this. I know
this is a small microcosm of things, but
listen, do not give up. You are one
email away. You are one DM away. You are
just one action away
from changing the trajectory of your
career. Again, my name is Taylor Destin.
I'm VP of global community at
torque.dev. And listen, I'm not going to
talk about MCPs. I'm not going to talk
about Goose. Angie, I love you. Also,
it's terrifying to go after Angie, by
the way. I love Angie to death. Have the
utmost respect for her. I tweet I was
like, "Oh god, I'm going after Angie."
What I'm going to talk about for you
today is I'm going to go over some
pretty useless statistics that but I put
in there to like, you know, gain
credibility on my slides for y'all to
pay attention to me. But basically, I'm
going to talk to you about the rest of
of really your career and how you should
position it with AI. So, who am I? I'm a
father. I'm a husband. I have a
beautiful 5-year-old daughter named Ari.
I have a 14-month-old really handsome
son that takes after me. And surprise, I
have a third on the way. Uh, thank you.
Appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. YEAH. WAS NOT
PLANNED. WAS NOT PLANNED. UM, I I uh I
I'm a mediocre golfer. I'm about as good
as a golfer as like it looks in that
picture with the captions cutting it
off. Uh, I'm an ice hockey player. I
play in the A division in Nashville. We
are backto back league champions. I have
a miniature dog and a miniature donkey
and four horses and live on 15 acres and
I love my family dearly. And shout out
to my wife Jackie for allow me to be
here and supporting me and the kids uh
to speak. Yeah. Yeah. Give it up.
All right. I want to talk about Torque.
What is Torque? We are a community first
talent marketplace. Listen, we are so
passionate about community. We are the
next evolution I would say of staffing
companies, right? What's the biggest
gripe about staffing companies today? I
talked to a recruiter and they never got
back to me. How many of y'all have had
that experience? Raise your hand. Look
around. It's common. You know what we're
trying to do at Torque? We're trying to
single-handedly change that for the
entire industry through Ronstad Digital.
Ronstad Digital bought Torque as the
marketplace, as the platform. And my
entire job is to make sure you feel
loved on. My community team is here,
Briana and Jason. Uh uh please stop by
our booth. We run four to seven uh
virtual events a week on resumeé
reviews, career help. Anybody in our
resume review session yesterday? Yeah.
Absolutely unhinged, right? Absolutely
unhinged. Um we booked out 4 hours of
resume reviews at our booth today.
Somebody sent me cold brew. If you want
to at least see people get their resume
reviewed, we would love to have you
there. Um but again, I would love for
you to sign up on our jobs platform. But
if you want to pull out your phones real
quick, scan this. Uh my entire job
depends on how many people uh sign into
our platform. So please do that for the
love of Jesus. Do that for me.
Also, if you want to email me after
this, I'll send you the sides. Taylor
torque.dev.
Um and we'll move on. Also, I should
have brought up that QR code up. That's
my QR code to get access to everything I
have going on. All right. So, what I
want to get across say hiring in tech is
not dead.
It's not Deb. No matter what the
headlines are saying, do not sleep on
the startup ecosystem for your next
opportunity.
I was brought up in kind of just this
like, hey, big tech controls all, you
know, big, you know, you got to work for
a SAS company, you got to work for a
tech company. Listen, I know people work
in software in the A space that are
making way more money than some people
in big tech, right? There are other
industries out there. the big, like I
said, big tech gets the headlines, but
the hiring is happening. And I truly
believe, we are entering in to the new
age of the internet, right? So, let's
talk tech hiring real quick. Listen,
it's going up, y'all. Also, by the way,
I didn't read Todd's directions.
Shocker, a man not reading directions.
Um, and I had to put all of my slides
from Keynote into Google Slides this
morning, so that was cool. All right, so
let's talk about some hiring stats.
Again, you can Google all this stuff. To
me, all I want to show is this. AI job
postings are up 7x since 2024. I also
want to tell you that I have friends
landing jobs right now. Is Lawrence
Lockhart in here? Lawrence? Lawrence,
where you at? I don't see you. Oh, well.
Anyways, uh I interviewed him on my
podcast. He found a job in 89 days.
Okay. People are still getting jobs,
but you actually have to do the damn
thing. Excuse my cursing. All right,
let's move on. However, you're probably
like, "Well, Taylor, listen. At the end
of the day,
I do know it's not perfect." You're
right. It's not perfect. Let's talk
about what's chipping away at hiring
right now. First off, the great
hesitation. Anybody heard that term?
Anybody heard that term? Okay, great
hesitation. Basically what that is, how
many of y'all have gone through and uh
gone through five rounds of an interview
lately um and uh never heard back. Raise
your hand and say I.
>> I.
>> There you go. Few of y'all, right? I'm
learning some things. I'm learning some
things here. Right. That's the great
hesitation. Even it's happened to me. My
team, we specked out a program manager
role last year. I was like, "Oh, we're
ready to rip and roll." My finance guy
goes, "Nope." I'm like, "Damn." All
right. So again more emphasis on ladam
near shoring listen it's happening right
I I think a lot of companies are
understanding there's a lot of amazing
talent we do a lot in ladam we love our
ladam community we do a lot in that area
um but that is that's absolutely
chipping away at hiring the US listen I
still think we're dealing with the
overhiring in 2022 and I truly believe
AI has a marketing problem the reason
why people are getting laid off is not
because of AI I we as human beings like
to blame things.
Just call it what it is. We like to put
blame on things. And at the end of the
day, the blame should be the overhiring
that happened in 2022. It's not AI.
Okay. Now, I could get into micro
arguments with you or probably some
people have thoughts on, but find me
afterwards and we could talk because I'm
gonna be honest with you. I'm already
running out of time. All right. Let's
talk about AI real quick. Yep. That AI.
So, listen. Again, a bunch of data that
you can probably argue or disagree with
or find elsewhere. But the the big thing
I want to uh focus on is AI related job
titles have surged 7x from last year.
So, job postings, job titles are through
the roof. Anybody in here raise your
hand and say I that grew up SAILING
one guy. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. All
right. Two. Right. So, so three. So, so
if uh I got four um so basically when
you sail when you sail the wind's coming
at you and you can't go into the wind.
Everybody understand that concept? All
right. So, what my talk is, and we still
got a lot to get through, is navigating
and where the wind's going, right? My
thing is here is you got to you got to
see where the wind's going. And it's
absolutely racing and signaling that AI
is here to stay. Here's just another
stat that really doesn't matter because
of time. Uh let's talk big tech again at
the end of the day. I want to read
there's a lot again. We're talking about
we're talking about wind air, right?
Where where's it going? Listen, let's
read between the lines here. Microsoft
plans 80 billion in AI spend while
laying off 9,000. Amazon plans hundred
billion dollar in data centers in AI
development while laying off 22. Meta
you can you can read. Okay. Right. So
again, where's the wind going? Right.
It's obvious AI is here to stay, but I
do think I I do think that uh the the
internet is changing. You need to get
with let's talk startups. So again, I
was not really accustomed to the startup
ecosystem and and and for me, one thing
I've realized is that investments are
through the roof right now. Here's some
other stats, right? US startup funding
for the first half of 2025 is up 75.6
year-over-year. M&A activity for the
first half of the year for 2025 is over
a hundred billion. Right? There is a lot
of activity going on in the startup side
of things, right? So, you're like,
Taylor, this is a lot of information.
Give me some good news. Say less, fam. I
got you. You're not behind. Everybody
look to your neighbor to the left or
right of you and say, "OH, LORD, YOU NOT
BEHIND." Say it to the neighbors to the
left or right of you. Oh, Lord, you're
not behind.
All right. However, this does remind me
of a trend. Uh, I'm not technical, but
I've been staffing the internet since
2011.
I was staffing whennet
MVC came out. That was wild, right? We
went from like VB.NET to C. We went from
Net Web Forms. We have time. You can go
a little Sweet. Awesome. Sick. How much
time do I have
>> left?
>> Okay. Sweet. Awesome. Awesome. All
right. Well, hopefully I'm not boring
people yet. I don't see too many people
on their phones. If you are, come back
to me, please. We're almost done.
However, this does remind me of a trend.
Anybody uh anybody uh raise your hand
and heard of a technology and say I with
React.
>> That's cool, right? That's where we're
at. I th this reminds me
of when React dropped.
People lost their damn minds, right? We
had people jumping on React, creating
content around React. They were React
afficionados,
right?
And then there was others.
React's a fad. It's not here to stay.
Stupid. I'm going to stick doing jQuery,
right? I don't know if that's real. I'm
not technical, but I can just say things
and get away with it. So, uh, so again,
like listen, but the individuals who
learn React, who pivoted quickly,
they're the ones that have continued to
find success when that transition
happened. Right. I truly believe that's
where we're at. All right, so Taylor,
you're like, "WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? THIS
IS GREAT. I LOVE YOUR ENERGY. Why are
you yelling? I've had two cold brews
this morning off no food. It's great."
Uh, this drugs, basically. All right, so
let's talk what we do next. Is it time
to pivot?
Listen, Angie Jones,
Ken C. Dods, anybody heard of him?
Probably. Ken Cy Dods, Remix, React.
What is he now? MCP This MCP That, Angie
Jones, Java Queen. What are we now?
Goose
MCP. I don't know what these words mean,
but it's wild, right? So, I just get to
say this stuff. All right. All right.
Next thing. So, IS IT TIME TO PIVOT? I
DON'T KNOW. YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF
THAT.
I got in a conversation yesterday with
the Whiskey Web and whatnot, Robbie the
podcast. Check it out if you have not.
But one thing we talked about is is is
me and my business partner Jason Torres.
I don't know if you can go to a boot
camp as a mer stack developer and find a
job as easy anymore.
I just I just don't see it.
I will say this. Look where the wind's
going.
Talk to people in your fields.
What's Sally Sue doing? That's
interesting,
right? I think too many of us and listen
mind you I have talked
with probably close to hundreds of
thousands of engineers at this point in
my career. I'm not lying.
Some of y'all are too stubborn.
All right. Kind of get amen. All right.
Right. So again like be aware. Right.
Let's talk to people. Right. Let's not
be stubborn. Now's not the time to be
stubborn,
right? Find online communities. Listen,
I'm gonna plug torque.dev. Would love to
have you. We would love to have you. I
think we have probably one of the best
communities out there in terms of how to
help people find a job. Thank you for
the two followers we have.
Right. Find find individuals who have
communities. I'm a big fan of Ben Lang.
Anybody heard of Ben Lang? He's the head
of community for Kurser.
Right.
He formed a startup community called
Nextplay. I pay 10 BUCKS A MONTH. I
DON'T EVEN USE IT, but I'm just in there
to see who's what's doing what.
Be a part of a community. If you're not,
you're falling behind. Listen, I will
tell you this. This is special.
This does not happen normally. You
understand that, right?
So, if you see Todd, if you see Danny,
if you see the team today, tell them
thank you.
This is where the magic happens. We had
somebody attend a Torque event Sunday
night. He came up to me. He goes, "Do I
think I got a job offer?"
Not surprising. This is where it
happens. Right? Anybody uh single, say,
"I."
>> I'm trying to help y'all out here. Say,
"I." Y'all look around. Like like like
like like what's the ongoing joke,
right? No one's going to jump through
your window to date you.
That's robbery.
You have to go out and find that person.
You're not going to change the
trajectory of your career sitting at
home flipping through Netflix.
Be more efficient. Take responsibility
of your career. Also, find a mentor.
Listen, this something I'm extremely
happy about. Yeah, we got another I like
you. What's your name?
>> Oh, there you go. That's awesome. She's
great. She's great. Uh, find a mentor.
Listen, this is what I'm super
passionate about at Torque. If you go to
torque.com community, that's our
community page, torque. Community. Uh,
if you need that again, torque.com
community, we haven't we we have opened
up our ambassador
signups. We have opened up our mentor
mentee signups. single most thing I am
passionate about for 2026 is making sure
we have a team that is passionate about
spreading the word of torque and a and a
and a badass mentor mentee program that
is fundamentally taking care of the next
generation of engineers. So, if you are
a mentor or if you're a senior engineer
and you've always wanted a place where
somebody can just give you structure,
Jason, again, uh my colleague Jason
Torres is over here. He's helping head
that up. Would love to have you part of
it. If you're if you're somebody who
wants a mentor, please go sign up
torque.com community. All right, job
boards. Listen, you can email me. You
could I also just freaking chat GPT
this, right? It's not hard. Just go find
I see I see some of y'all taking
pictures. Just chat GPT AI job boards.
Not hard. All right. Other steps used to
do use X. Use X for the love of the
Lord. Get on X.
Taylor, it's stupid. There's politics on
it. People are dumb. Yeah, it's social
media, man. You see Facebook lately,
right? Listen, I can't tell you. Even
Brian Brian Douglas, met him on Twitter,
slid into his DMs, he come my podcast.
Angie Jones came on my podcast. Slid in
her DMs on on on Twitter. Get on
Twitter. Follow industry experts. Follow
lists. Create your list. There's a
something called a list. We can talk
about it later. Right? Use X, right?
Build in public. Listen, you do
understand that you can just start
talking about the same day in,
sorry, day out and you can be known for
that.
Literally, you could be junior. There's
this girl in our Discord. Her name's
Naz. She's junior. SHE'S YAPPING ABOUT
PYTHON 247. Guess what? I know her as
now. Python queen, right? It's crazy.
TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. Be known
for that. Taylor, I don't know a skill
set. NEITHER DO I. I AM A TECHNICAL
recruiter keynoting,
but I have yapped about helping people
find a job in the development tech
industry for 14 years.
You have no excuse. Side note, my dad is
65 years old and is posted on LinkedIn
in the restaurant industry, so none of
y'all have an excuse. Also, look at job
descriptions. We're almost done. We're
almost done. Look at job descriptions
here. You're probably like, "Taylor, I'm
so lost. I don't know what skills to
learn." The answer to the test is on the
internet. Look at job descriptions. What
are people wanting? Right, Taylor? I
don't know what to learn to jump that to
an AI engineer.
Look, chat GPT it. It's amazing, right
y'all? I just want to say thank you.
This was an unbelievable experience. I
would love to connect with you. Again, I
don't know if my QR code even worked
with that down there, but again, taylor
torque.dev is my email. I'm Tesen on all
of my social media handles. My next
talk, there you go, if you want to scan
that. My next talk is at 11:30, room
206. It's going to be a more unhinged
version of this.
Thank you. I love you. Appreciate it.
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