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The Leaders of the Church | John Piper

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so my task is to speak on leaders the

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leaders of the church I will build my

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church and the Gates of Hell will not

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Prevail against him I'm going to do it

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through

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leaders and I would like to invite you

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into

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a

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five-step pathway into a Biblical

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understanding of Christian

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leadership I'll summarize the steps and

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then we'll take them one at a time step

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one I'll try to show that it is God's

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will that there be leaders in all the

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churches step two I will try to

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formulate a definition of Christian

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leadership or what do they do what do we

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do third I'll point to some biblical

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cautions

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that

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Jesus and I want to

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raise about leadership

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fourth I'm going to zero in on what is

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it that makes leadership

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effective or successful or

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fruitful and finally end with two

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practical implications or applications

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that in my own personal experience of of

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leading a

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church have me a great deal so if you

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like one-word summaries of those five it

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would be a justification for

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leadership a definition of

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leadership cautions about

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leadership

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implementation of leadership and

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illustrations two illustrations of

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leadership so let's take number

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one it is God's will that there be

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leaders in all the Christian churches we

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know this that it is God's will because

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God himself in seven different ways has

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described the leaders of his church in

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the New Testament number one here's the

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seven names for leaders number one

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leader the word leader it's first found

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in Matthew chapter 2: 6 that

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says from you Bethlehem shall come forth

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a

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leader this is the

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present participle of

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HEI heos that's way it's always

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occurs here and three times in Hebrews

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shall come forth a leader who shall

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Shepherd My People Israel and then in

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the book of Hebrews chapter 13 we read

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remember your

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leaders those who spoke to you the word

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of God consider the outcome of their way

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of life and imitate their faith chapter

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13: 7 of of Hebrews we're going to come

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back to that that will be a pivotal text

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later just illustrating seven words for

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leadership right now or obey your

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leaders and submit to them for they are

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keeping watch over your souls as those

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who will have to give an account let

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them do this with joy and not with

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groaning for that would be of no

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advantage to you verse 17 second the

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word sometimes

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translated govern it literally means one

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who stands before PR

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1 Thessalonians 5:12 we ask you Brothers

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to respect those who labor among you and

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are over you in the Lord or stand before

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you in the Lord and admonish you or 1

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Timothy 5:17 let the elders who rule

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stand before you price to May

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govern well be considered worthy of

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double honor third overseer episcopos

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pay careful attention to yourselves and

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to to all the flock in which the Holy

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Spirit has made you

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overseers to Shepherd the Church of God

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which is which he obtained with his own

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blood acts 20:28 and then Titus 1:7 an

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overseer as God's household manager must

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be above reproach

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fourth household

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manager o

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canus the Lord said this Jesus now who

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then is the faithful and wise manager

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household manager Steward whom his

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master Shall Set over his household to

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give them their portion of food at the

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proper time I always love that text

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while I was in the pastor because the

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the point of the larger context is when

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Jesus comes back what he's going to look

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for is have you fed your have you fed

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the house I said yes yes Lord I fed him

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I fed

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him that was very comforting to me I

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just he just wants me to be found

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faithful feeding his house or Titus 1:7

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an overseer of as God's household

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manager must be above reproach number

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five Shepherd both in the verb form Po

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and the noun form once po pay careful

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attention to yourselves and to all the

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flock in which the Holy Spirit has made

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you overseers to Shepherd the Church of

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God which he obtained with his own blood

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or 1 Peter 5 I exhort the elders among

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you Shepherd the flock of God that is

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among you or the noun form Ephesians

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4:11 God gave the to the church Apostles

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prophets evangels and Shepherds and

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teachers number six the word Elder

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presbuteros they appointed Elders for

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them in every Church acts 14 this is why

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I left you in cre so that you might

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appoint Elders in every town Titus one

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let the elders who rule well be

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considered worthy of double honor

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especially those who labor in preaching

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and teaching 1 Timothy 5 finally number

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seven did ollos teacher Christ gave to

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the church Apostles prophets evangelists

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the Shepherds teachers Ephesians 4:11

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and an overseer must be able to

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teach so I conclude from these seven

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god-given

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designations of leaders that there

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should be leaders in all the church

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churches those seven names

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designations all refer to the same kind

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of people the same people by and large

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and they get at different aspects of

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leadership and they connote different

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angles so for example leader heos

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connotes direction or

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guidance one who stands before proinos

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connotes a chairman likee governance of

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a

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meeting group overseer connotes watchful

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supervisory

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role household manager connotes

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Administration

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organization

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stewardship shepher connotes protection

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nourishment and guidance Elder connotes

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maturity exemplary responsibility

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teacher connotes the impartation and

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explanation of Truth and I believe that

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as I look out now on

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you almost everybody in this room that's

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you that's you either you're there or

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you're on your way there or you've been

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there you're thinking about going there

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that's you which means that the rest of

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this message is very relevant for

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you let's move to step number two a

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definition of what this leadership is or

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what leaders

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do so from those seven designations and

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descriptions or names I

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infer three things about the meaning of

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of

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leadership

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one when you see these designations

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guidance governance supervision

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organization modeling application of

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Truth to people's lives it seems obvious

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to me that one of the meanings of

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leadership is getting people from where

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they are to where God wants them to

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be you're

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here and God says be there in your

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thinking be there in your feeling be

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there in your action maybe be there in

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your geography and leaders say okay my

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job get them there I'm going to get them

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there that's my job to get people from

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where they are to where God wants them

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to

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be uh in other words a goal is implied

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with

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leadership God doesn't put leaders in a

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group for them to aimlessly go in

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circles that's not the point of leaders

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the point of leaders is put them in a

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group and go

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somewhere move from here to where God is

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calling that group of people

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to

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be he puts leaders in a group to get

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them to a goal in their thinking in

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their feeling in their action and maybe

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in their geography that's number one

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leadership

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implies a goal and getting people from

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where they are to that

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place

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second when you see these seven

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designations watchful supervision

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governance Administration

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organization protection nourishment

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teaching being examples it's obvious

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when you just think about them God has

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Ways and Means and methods that he wants

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you to use to get people from here to

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there Christian leaders key off of God

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not only for the

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goal but for the method we don't look to

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the

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world to learn the main the means and

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the ways and the methods of getting

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people from A to B we look to God

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because he has ideas about how he wants

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this to be done we don't look mainly to

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the

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world number

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three even though it's not explicit it

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in any of these words it's clear say

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from 1 Peter 410 and 11 that the banner

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flying over these words and this

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function is that we do it in Reliance

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upon God's strength so here's 1 Peter

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4:10 and 11 as each has received a gift

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use it as to serve one another as good

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stewards of God's varied Grace whoever

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speaks

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as one who speaks Oracles of God whoever

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serves even in a a role of leadership

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whoever serves as one who served by the

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strength that God

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supplies in order that in everything God

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may be glorified through Jesus Christ to

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him belongs glory for and Dominion

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forever and ever so essential to

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Christian

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leadership is a gifted

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leader a goal God's goal God's gifted

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leader God's goal God's

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methods by God's power so th those four

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things go into the definition of

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Christian leadership and there's one

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piece missing and that

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is it's not Christian leadership if

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nobody's

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following followers God's appointed

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followers I'm not a leader

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if I know exactly where God wants people

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to go and nobody is following

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me I'm not a

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leader and I'm not a leader if

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everybody's following me and I'm not

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going where God wants me to go I'm not a

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Christian leader might be a leader and

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leading people straight to hell but

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you're not a Christian leader if you got

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a great following and you're taking them

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in in the wrong direction that's not

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Christian leadership I'm not a Christian

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leader if the place where I'm going is

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exactly where God wants them to be and

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there's a big following and my methods

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stink they're worldly through and

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through that's not a Christian

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leadership and I'm not a leader I'm not

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a Christian leader if I'm going where

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God wants me to go and everybody's

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following and I'm using Christian

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methods and I'm totally

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self-reliant that's not Christian

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leadership so those are the elements

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that go into the definition of what it

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is and and the sentence would go like

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this Christian leadership is uh knowing

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where God wants people to

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be taking the initiative to get them

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there using God's

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gifts God's

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methods by God's power

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with God's appointed people following

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that's Christian leadership might be 10

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people might be a Sunday school

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class and it might be a 10,000 person

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Church it might be a Ministry a mission

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it might be a

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business whatever God calls people to be

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you should get out in front of them and

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take them there

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when you go home that's what you're

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supposed to do discern where God wants

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your people to be get out in front of

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them and take them

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there if God calls them to be trusting

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in his promises you get out in front and

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take them to that

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trust if God wants them to have

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unshakable hope in the face of cultural

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collapse you get out in front and take

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take them there if God calls them to be

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radically God centered Christ exalting

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Bible saturated you get in front and

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take them there if God calls them to

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spread a passion for the supremacy of

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God in all things for the joy of all

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people through Jesus you get out in

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front and take them there if God calls

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them to be

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happy in all their suffering you get out

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in front and take them there

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if God calls them to love their neighbor

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and make great sacrifices for the needy

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you get out in front and take them there

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if God calls them to be pure and holy

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and separate from the world you get out

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in front and take them there if God

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calls them to be self-controlled and

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dignified and sober minded you get out

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in front and take them there if God

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calls them to be childlike and meek and

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gentle and humble you get out in front

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and take them there if God calls them to

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be bold as a lion you get out in front

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and take them there if God calls them to

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be generous and sacrificial in their

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giving you get out in front and set the

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great example of giving most in the

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church if God calls them to be World

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Christians and with a global mindset and

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a burden for the unreached peoples of

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the world you get out in front and take

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them there if God calls them to lay down

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their lives for Jesus you get out in

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front and take them

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there that's leadership you feel that

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that's your

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job you get out in front and take them

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there Christian leadership in our

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churches is knowing where God wants

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people to be you I'll take in a minute

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how how we learned that knowing where

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God wants people to be taking the

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initiative to use God's methods and

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God's gifts to get them there and

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Reliance upon God's power with God's

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people joyfully following your

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leadership step

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three some biblical cautions about

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leadership and we start with a caution

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about the wording of that

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last three

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minutes get out in

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front it's a

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metaphor it's not a geographic mandate

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it's a

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metaphor because in fact you might be

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behind them pushing with all your

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might you might be beside them

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protecting them from a horrible assault

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on their

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flank you might be underneath them

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building a foundation so they don't fall

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through to

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hell you might be hovering over them

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saying up here up

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here you might be smack dab in the

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middle of the them suffering everything

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they suffer so it's a it's a metaphor

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got this get out in front do what you

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have to do to get him

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there that's the first caution here's

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caution number two I think I have

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three second caution comes from

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Jesus oh did he care about this

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caution so this is Luke 22 24-

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27 a dispute arose among them among the

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apostles as to which of them was to be

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regarded as the greatest now that word

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regarded is very important I

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think I want to be regarded as the

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greatest he didn't say be the

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greatest the argument was how can I be

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regarded as the

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greatest verse

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25 he said to them the kings of the

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Gentiles exercise lordship over them and

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those in authority over them are

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called that's

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important are

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called

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benefactors not so with you rather let

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the greatest among you become as the

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youngest and the

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leader as one who

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serves for who is the greater one who

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reclines at table like a guest an

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honored guest or one who serves a a

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table server which is greater is not the

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one reclining at table greater yes

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obviously however I am among you as one

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who

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serves so the unmistakable point of that

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paragraph that in interaction is let the

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leader become as one

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who

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serves which means leaders lead for the

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good of the people not the glory of

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their

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name okay this is so clear leaders

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lead to get their people to the place of

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their good for for your

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good it's not about my glory it's about

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your

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good that we lead not to get glory for

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our name but get good for our people

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he's not to

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be out for regard me regard me regard me

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as a

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benefactor regard me as the greatest

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it's just not about regarding

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you rather it's about the good of the

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people their temporal good and

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especially their Eternal good now

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Paul I I think gives a commentary on

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this text in 2 Corinthians 1 uh verse 24

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as he uses the very same word

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kurin Lord it over not that we lord it

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over that's the same word Jesus used

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about the Gentiles

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Lord not that we lord it over your faith

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we we work with you for your

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joy for you stand firm in your

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faith so Paul the leader has a goal

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what's the goal the joy of Faith that's

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the goal of your ministry I hope the joy

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of the faith of my people not just Faith

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Joy of Faith it's a genitive in

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Philippians 1 the joy of Faith just

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bound together if you got real Faith you

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got joy in Jesus if you got joy in Jesus

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that's real it's rooted in faith these

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are one thing that's the goal of your

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life on want get my people there going I

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get them there and to do what I have to

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do to get my people to the joy of faith

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and and he said the way to do that is

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not by lording it over

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them will never work it's what Jesus was

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saying it's what Paul was saying rather

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you you work with them for their good so

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that's caution number two caution number

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three is a caution about the

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cautions we live in a day where we need

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cautions about the caution

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ctions of

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leadership Luke

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22:26 let the leader become as one who

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lead

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serves is meant by Jesus to make leaders

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humble and

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loving

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and for 50

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years ever since I've been embroiled in

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the conflict surrounding

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complementarianism and egality arianism

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which goes back for me 50

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years ever since the beginning of that

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Conflict for my personal experience this

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verse Luke

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22:26 has been used to cancel

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leadership and make it all service and

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no

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leadership now today this 50 years

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later um the met too movement

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and multiple pastoral

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abuses and the indiscriminate

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disparaging as all male leadership as

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toxic

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masculinity has just about turned this

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text

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into a means by which any call to

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leadership is

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silenced and

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nullified and

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servanthood is elevated to the point of

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striking

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down leadership now here's here 50 years

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ago here was my answer to that

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criticism I said you

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know in that room that night before

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Jesus was crucified when he he took off

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his outer garment and bound himself with

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a towel and he got down on his knees and

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he washed his disciples feet and they

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were thunder

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struck

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nobody doubted who the leader was in

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that

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room there wasn't the slightest whiff of

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doubt that oh he's not my leader

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anymore that's a crazy

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conclusion to infer from that text that

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because he became a slave to get under

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his people and save them somehow he

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stopped being the leader of the

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pack he he didn't he was the leader all

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the way home and is

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today it isn't true it just isn't true

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that to become a servant is to stop

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being a

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leader so for example you're in a staff

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meeting or maybe it's more realistic

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say not not an elder meeting but let's

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say a congregational

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meeting and someone goes to the

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microphone say there's 200 people

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there or 100 or 50 somebody goes to the

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microphone and they start making a case

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for a

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position in the

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body and you can see

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immediately there are factual mistakes

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in what they're

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saying it's incomplete information in

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what they're

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saying unbiblical assump assumptions are

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weaving their way through what they're

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saying and they're drawing illogical

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conclusions and they're using ad homonym

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arguments to emotionally manipulate the

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congregation and and you're sitting

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there as the pastor and you're

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watching your people got an angle on

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them and you can

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tell they're buying

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this they're buying

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this what do you do

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what does a

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servant

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leader

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do

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um if you do nothing if you sit there in

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silence you're not a

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leader and you're not a servant of this

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people Meek as you may seem honoring

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everybody's

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opinion it's a

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failure it's either a failure of

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discernment or it's a failure of

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cowardice or a success of cowardice I

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guess you could say it's not leadership

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so what's your job at that

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moment and you'll see in a minute I mean

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some of you are ahead of me and you know

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why this is so explosively relevant

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what's your job at that moment your job

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at that moment is to hear them out and

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then to take your prerogative and go to

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the mic micophone there may be 10 people

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lined up the microphone and you go to

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the microphone you're the pastor you're

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preempting you're going to the

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microphone and see I just need to make a

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couple of comments

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here and you point out two or three

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things in what was just said that are

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correct and you thank them for that

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correctness and then you point out the

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problem and you set the record straight

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with facts you set the record straight

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with Biblical truthfulness and principle

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and you set the record straight with

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clear logical

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thinking and you can

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see the 150 people that were leaning in

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suddenly they're swaying back to the

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truth dozens of them out there could

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smell the problem they could smell it

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they couldn't name it that's your

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job they're not leaders that's why

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they're not up there they smell it you

28:31

name it that's what leaders do they

28:34

smell and name they see it they see the

28:37

wolf they see the problem they see the

28:42

misled Goodwill

28:46

person and they set it

28:50

straight and those dozens of people are

28:54

so thankful they're Whispering thank God

28:57

God thank God we have a

29:01

Shepherd

29:03

now if you sit there and you think

29:07

this if I stand up and go to the

29:11

microphone and correct this person in

29:15

public you know what that's going to

29:17

result

29:18

in they're going to call it

29:23

shaming and then that will become the

29:26

accusation of

29:30

abuse now at that point you're

29:32

thinking I'm this is a no win situation

29:36

here that's not

29:39

true because you're sitting there and

29:41

you're

29:43

thinking okay I want to be a humble

29:46

caring servant leader of my flock here

29:50

and they are being swayed in a terrible

29:53

Direction it's unbiblical it's unfactual

29:56

it's misleading it's damaging to the

29:58

people and very few people are seeing it

30:02

some are smelling it they can't name it

30:05

I see it I name it I know exactly what's

30:07

going on here my job is to do something

30:10

and then you think Jesus said blessed

30:12

are you when men persecute you and

30:15

revile you and say all kinds of things

30:19

against you

30:22

falsely rejoice in that day and be glad

30:25

Jesus this kind of situation does not

30:27

take Jesus off guard you just have to be

30:31

willing to take it and if you get fired

30:34

if they go on Twitter and you're

30:38

crucified that's the price you pay I'm a

30:40

faithful

30:45

Shepherd so my caution about the

30:48

cautions is don't be overly

30:52

cautious

30:54

so be biblically cautious just not

30:58

ego

31:00

cautious that's the end of step three

31:03

the caution step four how do leaders

31:06

lead

31:08

successfully let's zero in on the heart

31:10

of the matter now uh what What's the

31:13

heart of what makes this successful or

31:16

effective or fruitful when I take these

31:19

seven designations of leadership leading

31:23

governing overseeing managing

31:26

shepherding modeling

31:29

teaching every one of them

31:31

cries God I need to hear from

31:35

you I need to hear from you in

31:39

leading I need to know from you God

31:42

where I want this where you want these

31:44

people to

31:44

go governing I need to know from you God

31:49

how to govern overseeing I need to know

31:52

from you God what I'm watching for what

31:55

I'm what I'm supervising here how to do

31:57

it in managing I need to know from you

32:00

God how how I'm organizing these people

32:02

what is this organization all about in

32:05

shepherding I need to know what I'm

32:07

supposed to feed my people and what are

32:09

the enemies I'm supposed to protect them

32:10

from in modeling what kind of example am

32:13

I supposed to set God in teaching what

32:15

truth am I supposed to apply God I got

32:17

to have a word I can't do this without

32:21

you're telling me all about this

32:26

leadership so we're back to Hebrews

32:31

137 remember your

32:34

leaders those who spoke to you the word

32:37

of God consider the outcome of their way

32:40

of

32:41

life and imitate their faith now

32:44

wouldn't you agree that a simple

32:47

summary of that verse would be that the

32:51

author is drawing out two things about

32:55

leaders they spoke the word word of

32:58

God and they lived the word of God so

33:02

that you can watch them I think the

33:05

outcome of their lives means they were

33:08

faithful all the way till they died

33:10

might have been martym might have not

33:12

been martyrum but just all the way to

33:14

the end you can trace their lives all

33:15

the way to the outcome all the way

33:18

faithful watch that everybody watch that

33:21

what's your leader all the way to the

33:23

end you can't quit 65 that's cheating

33:29

all the way to the end what happens when

33:30

what happens between 65 and 85 that

33:37

matters all the way to the outcome you

33:40

watch them and you imitate the faith

33:43

that you see played out in that

33:47

Leader's

33:49

life they spoke the word of God remember

33:52

your leaders who spoke to you the word

33:56

and then and

33:58

secondly consider the outcome of their

34:01

way of

34:02

life and imitate their faith So my

34:06

answer to the question how how do you

34:09

lead

34:10

successfully fruitfully

34:12

is speak the word and live the

34:16

word speak the word and live the word

34:19

the implications of both those are huge

34:20

and this conference has been much about

34:23

that but that's my summary of Christian

34:27

leadership so I move now to two

34:31

illustrations that might flesh out that

34:33

a little bit so that you can be

34:35

encouraged I hope by the way I

34:39

experience the the the weight of those

34:42

two mandates that they are weighty right

34:46

to speak the word of God to people and

34:48

to be the life of God before the people

34:51

is a weighty

34:54

calling so fleshing them out number

34:59

one

35:00

if effective leadership speaks the word

35:03

of God and lives the word of God then

35:06

your

35:07

lifelong

35:09

calling

35:10

priority unwavering

35:13

vocation is to handle the word of

35:17

God the Bible in such a way that you

35:21

penetrate through its carefully

35:25

construed

35:27

sentences you you do the careful

35:30

construing so you come to the Bible you

35:33

do your hard work of construing

35:35

historically grammatically these

35:38

sentences and you penetrate through them

35:41

to Ultimate Reality which God is

35:45

intending to communicate through the

35:47

words that's a long convoluted sentence

35:50

but it's not it's not complicated if you

35:52

just think about it for a moment your

35:55

lifelong calling is to handle this deal

35:58

with

35:59

this and by dealing with it I mean

36:04

you work with the propositions and the

36:09

narratives that are

36:10

here so

36:14

assiduously and so prayerfully and so

36:17

dependently upon God that you you go

36:21

through them to Ultimate

36:24

Reality and the people will know the

36:27

people will know whether you're

36:28

terminating on words or you're going to

36:29

reality they'll know they don't need

36:32

more

36:33

words you got plenty of words

36:35

everybody's got

36:37

words they need a use of words that get

36:41

through the words to reality for example

36:45

1 Samuel

36:48

3:21 the Lord appeared at

36:51

Shiloh now get that word appeared it

36:54

sounds like oh oh he showed up the sh

36:57

kind of Glory showed up no that's not

36:59

what

37:01

happened the Lord appeared at Shiloh for

37:04

the Lord revealed himself to Samuel at

37:08

Shiloh by the word of the Lord oh I love

37:12

that

37:13

text because doesn't leave any doubt in

37:15

my mind how I know

37:18

him how I meet him how I fellowship with

37:21

him how I see him and this so much of

37:23

this conference so far has been you got

37:25

to see him you're gonna be changed if

37:27

you see him you lift your people up into

37:30

the glories if you see him and that

37:32

leaves us say like where do I see him

37:33

he's not

37:36

visible let me read it again the Lord

37:39

appeared at

37:40

shaloh for the Lord revealed

37:44

himself to Samuel at Shiloh by the word

37:49

of the

37:50

Lord or take Ephesians

37:55

3:4 when you read

37:58

this Mark the word

38:01

read when you read

38:04

this

38:05

Ephesians you can

38:08

perceive

38:10

my Apostolic god-given inspired

38:14

insight into the mystery of

38:19

Christ I didn't even see that verse

38:22

until Tom Stellar showed

38:25

me

38:27

if you if you read Ephesians

38:29

right you actually penetrate through the

38:34

words with a spiritual

38:37

perception joining Paul in what he saw

38:40

about the mystery of

38:44

Christ so knowing Ultimate

38:49

Reality and being formed by Ultimate

38:53

Reality are not two distinct pastor

38:56

Toral acts right this just goes back to

39:00

Michael Reeves comments on 2 Corinthians

39:03

3:18 beholding the glory of the Lord we

39:07

are being changed from one degree of

39:08

glory to the next so knowing god through

39:12

penetrating through the words to the

39:14

Ultimate

39:16

Reality and being shaped by that

39:19

Ultimate Reality are not separate task

39:22

here's where I study and here's here

39:23

where I become like

39:25

Jesus

39:27

your encounter with the word I hope this

39:29

is happening in all of our classes at

39:31

betham College and Seminary is the kind

39:33

of

39:34

encounter that students walk out

39:37

thinking

39:40

whoa I met him today I saw more of him

39:43

today I will be changed I'll be a

39:45

different person because of what I saw

39:47

of God today 2 Corinthians

39:52

318 and four verses later in 2

39:56

Corinthians

39:56

4:4 Paul tells us where you look like

40:00

beholding the glory of the Lord we are

40:02

being changed where where where's the

40:04

glory you say well the sky yeah that's

40:06

true but that's not what he has in mind

40:08

at

40:09

all he has in mind New Covenant Glory

40:13

the kind of Glory that happens when

40:14

Satan's blinding effects are removed and

40:17

we are able to see what I'll read it to

40:20

you this is verse 4 when satanic

40:23

blindness is removed in verse four of 2

40:25

Corinthians 4 we see the light of the

40:29

Gospel of the glory of Christ who is the

40:32

image of God Gospel of the glory of

40:35

Christ so where do you see the glory

40:37

that changes you from one degree of

40:39

glory to the next you see it in the

40:40

gospel of the glory of Christ it's the

40:42

gospel it's the word of God if Satan

40:45

takes away the what did he call it the

40:47

smear takes away the smear the blinding

40:50

smear of worldliness off of off of our

40:53

eyes or deadness off of our eyes what we

40:55

see as we read the gospel we read the

40:59

narratives of the gospels as we read the

41:02

prophetic word that's pointing to Christ

41:04

as we see that we see right through it

41:06

to

41:10

Glory Ultimate Reality that's your

41:13

lifelong vocation as a pastor I'm

41:15

arguing that's what you do every day

41:19

that's your job that's your main job is

41:21

to see it is to handle the word in such

41:24

a way that by rightly conru ring the

41:26

sentences you penetrate through them to

41:29

Ultimate Reality and then you speak that

41:32

and you live that before your people

41:35

that's implication or application number

41:37

one here's the last

41:45

one we need to know this is going to

41:48

sound complicated at first but I I'll

41:50

try to come back and explain it we need

41:52

to know or

41:54

realize that

41:56

what we know of God and the world and

42:00

the degree to which we

42:02

become like

42:05

him uh in this lifelong encounter with

42:09

Ultimate Reality through God's word is

42:12

very limited in this

42:16

life yet it is without

42:20

limit in its relevance and application

42:24

to

42:25

everything

42:28

what in the world does that

42:30

mean your knowledge of God your

42:33

knowledge of the

42:33

[Music]

42:34

world your Conformity to God and your

42:38

Conformity to impact the world is very

42:42

limited in this

42:45

world and it is of such a nature that it

42:49

is without

42:51

limit in its relevance to everything in

42:54

the world let me try to explain because

42:58

this Brothers has been a Lifeline for me

43:02

and my survival in the

43:04

work during my 33 years as a pastor and

43:08

now lot longer than that in just

43:10

Ministry

43:12

General few things threatened to

43:16

paralyze me in Ministry like the endless

43:22

stream of

43:25

proposals

43:26

for how I should do the

43:30

ministry a constant stream of Articles

43:34

seminars lectures courses degrees

43:38

programs books videos

43:43

conferences telling me how to do it

43:47

proposing every ma imaginable

43:51

technique not to mention the whole

43:54

universe of

43:56

knowledge of culture politics business

44:01

industry education philosophy geography

44:05

anthropology history physics chemistry

44:09

astronomy sociology psychology

44:12

literature entertainment medicine and

44:16

and and and it is

44:20

utterly

44:25

paralyzing compared to what can be

44:28

known of God in the world you don't know

44:37

anything I mean compared to what can be

44:39

known of God and the

44:42

world what what you know compared to

44:45

what is you wouldn't be able to see it

44:48

it's

44:52

just and that's that's demoralizing

44:57

that's just demoralizing it it's

45:00

paralyzing for a leader whose job is to

45:03

take people from here to where they're

45:05

supposed to

45:07

be except for

45:10

this and and this kept me going for all

45:13

those years and still does keeps me

45:16

going

45:16

today our our

45:20

encounter

45:22

with god with Ultimate Reality

45:26

through his

45:27

word is without

45:30

limit in its relevance and application

45:33

to

45:35

everything let me say that again our

45:38

encounter with God and our knowledge of

45:41

God and our being changed by God is

45:44

without limit in its relevance to

45:53

everything if you know God if you if you

45:56

know God through his word and have

45:59

insight into the mystery of Christ then

46:03

what you know and what you are

46:06

becoming is without limit in its

46:10

relevance to

46:12

everything for this reason why is that

46:16

so Ultimate Reality has a crucial

46:20

relationship to all of

46:23

reality so obvious

46:26

So

46:28

Glorious Ultimate Reality what's his

46:31

name

46:35

God has a crucial relationship to all

46:39

reality if you get Ultimate

46:43

Reality you have the most significant

46:45

thing for all

46:48

reality you know the most important

46:51

thing about all reality let me say it

46:53

again Brothers if you know God

46:56

you know the most important thing about

47:04

everything I mean whoa

47:07

freedom I don't need to know everything

47:09

I know the most important thing that

47:11

relates to everything I know the most

47:14

important thing about

47:17

everything you talk about boldness you

47:20

talk about

47:22

confidence good night which means

47:26

that you walk into any conversation

47:30

anywhere in the world on any Topic in

47:33

the world you walk into that room you

47:36

have the most important thing to say in

47:39

the room let me say that again any room

47:44

anywhere on any topic being discussed

47:47

you walk into that room you tonight you

47:51

have the most important thing to say

47:53

about what's being discussed in that

47:54

room I I don't care what it is it might

47:58

be Rick I've been listening to these

48:01

podcasts you steered me to it might be

48:03

mondria my goodness it might be

48:06

microscopic Machinery inside the human

48:08

cell that's what they're talking about

48:10

in this room it might be mathematical

48:14

calculations that gets a Rover to

48:17

pinpoint land on Mars it might be

48:20

bizarre cultural customs of a tribe you

48:23

never heard of you think you're a small

48:26

player in those

48:29

discussions come on do you think that

48:31

you're a small player in those

48:33

discussions you're not if you have

48:36

penetrated Through the Bible into

48:39

Ultimate Reality to God to Creation to

48:43

Providence to Christ to Redemption if

48:46

you just penetrated through to Ultimate

48:49

Reality you know the most important

48:53

thing in every conversation on every

48:55

topic everywhere in the

49:01

world here's what you say

49:08

hello uh God made

49:12

this he made it to reveal his glory to

49:15

you

49:17

men his aim is that you would see his

49:20

glory and worship him if you don't see

49:22

it Brothers you're blind you're blinded

49:24

by your sin

49:26

he has taken care of that blindness and

49:29

sin problem in Jesus Christ and if you

49:32

would believe in him that your blindness

49:35

could be removed you could see reality

49:37

for what it really is and all these

49:40

cells that you're talking about in this

49:41

Machinery inside the cell and all these

49:43

equations that get to Mars and all these

49:45

Customs for anthropology would be turned

49:48

into an Enterprise of

49:50

worship that's the most important thing

49:52

that needs to be said in every

49:54

discussion in the world

49:56

you know the most important thing about

49:58

everything you don't need to cower you

50:01

don't Piper is a slow

50:04

reader how was I talking to oh yeah

50:07

Jonathan Leman Jonathan did you make it

50:09

back tonight no he's still traveling

50:11

back from South Carolina bless his heart

50:14

um so we were talking about Tim Keller

50:16

right in the new in the biography that

50:18

Colin Hansen and and he's saying Tim

50:20

Keller is was a super high level

50:23

cultural commentator and and apologist

50:25

just so effective and I knew Tim really

50:28

well we talked a lot we were we were

50:30

very different people we both love we

50:33

both love Edwards and we both love Lewis

50:36

and I always said you became Lewis I

50:37

became Edwards that's what it

50:43

did and and what what that meant was

50:46

that Tim Keller subscribed I think he

50:49

said to about 10 different cultural

50:53

magazines read everything

50:56

read everything he knew everything

50:58

happened in Manhattan knew all the

51:00

latest philosophical stuff Piper doesn't

51:02

read

51:03

anything paper can't

51:07

[Applause]

51:15

read so he maximizes his strength and I

51:18

maximize mine I just know one thing it's

51:22

the most important thing in the

51:24

world

51:26

I'll say it anywhere to anybody and not

51:28

be intimidated in the least by anybody

51:31

that I know the most important thing in

51:33

this conversation God God's the most

51:36

important thing here Redemption is the

51:38

most important thing here worship is the

51:40

most important thing here can I help you

51:42

guys get your act

51:45

together look that may sound funny it

51:48

saved my

51:49

life I'm just I I know most of you are

51:52

like me you're just ordinary you think

51:54

I'm not ordinary I know that but I am

51:56

I'm really ordinary in so many ways and

51:59

I'm I I've found a way to maximize my

52:02

ordinariness and you can do this too you

52:04

just you figure out a way to trick

52:06

everybody into thinking you're

52:09

smart and and then you you you do as

52:13

well as you can do this little slice of

52:15

reality that you're good at I know my

52:17

Bible I know my Bible and I know my God

52:21

and I love my God and I'm going to show

52:23

people the Bible I'm going to show

52:25

people God and guess what you will lead

52:28

people you will take them from here to

52:31

there cuz that's what they want they

52:33

don't want you to be another expert on

52:35

anything they got experts in the New

52:38

York Times They got experts at Fox News

52:40

they got experts CNN they got experts

52:42

coming out of their ears they're not

52:43

they're not coming to church to hear the

52:45

latest smarts politically or

52:48

economically they want to know what has

52:50

God said pastor tell us something for

52:51

our

52:52

lives and oh my this is inexhaustible

52:56

this is

52:57

inexhaustible so take Heart Take heart

53:02

from

53:03

this and glory in this your people need

53:07

from you not that you know everything

53:11

but that you say the most important

53:13

thing about

53:16

everything what God has revealed about

53:19

himself and how you are being shaped by

53:23

it and how that works speak the word of

53:26

God and live the word of God and if you

53:29

do that for a

53:31

lifetime I hope I hope I make it to the

53:35

end saying it and living it if you live

53:38

it for a lifetime maybe somebody will

53:41

say remember your

53:44

leader remember him he spoke to us the

53:47

word of

53:48

God you consider the outcome of his life

53:53

and you imitate his faith wouldn't you

53:55

love for somebody to say that about you

53:58

let's

53:59

pray

54:03

father there may be a a tiny handful of

54:06

people who are who are the the wonderful

54:08

Tim Kellers who can do that

54:11

extraordinary important work of cultural

54:16

apologetics most of us aren't going to

54:18

be able to read that much we're not

54:20

going to operate at the level of

54:21

philosophical assumptions bless those

54:24

who have that calling and that gift but

54:26

most of us are are

54:29

not what can keep us going when we're

54:32

paralyzed and demoralized by the endless

54:36

possibilities of things we couldn't know

54:38

what's going to keep us going and the

54:40

answer I think

54:42

is our job is to know one book really

54:46

well to dig into people's lives and know

54:49

them really well to speak the word of

54:52

God be the word of

54:54

God and say the most important thing

54:56

about everything

54:58

everywhere and so I ask for these

55:01

brothers that they would be granted the

55:03

patience and the humility and the

55:06

courage to do that in Jesus name

55:16

amen

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