Why Stocks will Rocket Higher.
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Well, it's the morning after the Federal
Reserve meeting and we've got some new
information. Unfortunately, it's not as
quick or fast or as great as we would
like. The United States Supreme Court is
going to hear its initial oral arguments
in tariffs on November 5th. Right here
it is on the docket. And this could get
delayed, but typically after we get oral
arguments, it's going to take probably
anywhere between 3 to 6 months to
actually hear a Supreme Court decision
on whether or not tariffs are legal. So,
in other words, even though tariffs are
probably illegal, we're probably still
stuck with them for at least the next 6
months. See, that's not necessarily
bearish. It's more less bullish. I'll
put it that way. I would hope that
tariffs get declared illegal because
then our economy will see rapid
deflation because, you know, now we'll
be lapping year-over-year inflationary
prices from tariffs. That transitory
overtime inflation the Fed is worried
about will disappear. You'll have
year-over-year now negative numbers,
disinflation and deflation in
categories, and it'll really give the
Federal Reserve a license to continue to
cut rates. Unfortunately, that decision
isn't going to come until, frankly, next
summer. So, it's going to take some time
before we get those tariffs gone. Either
way, you know me, I expect tariffs will
be gone at some point in the future.
Either courts declaring them illegal or
ultimately we end up getting a new
administration that says, you know what,
we're not doing this. Now, do understand
this, though. This is a uh a potential
downside to uh this thesis that you know
the tariff will end up being declared
illegal. Uh this is a little reminder uh
and then we'll talk about the Federal
Reserve since it's the morning after
here. This is a little reminder of how
the Supreme Court votes when it comes to
Donald Trump uh versus Biden. And so if
you look really closely at that, you
could see that uh when it comes to
voting for Trump, the Republicans tend
to vote in favor of what Trump wants 80
to 90% of the time, and the Democratic
justices vote in favor of what Biden
wants a lot of the time. Uh so in other
words, yes, the Supreme Court is very
politicized, which does mean there's
also the risk that the Supreme Court is
just going to say that tariffs are
legal. But again, we won't know until
next summer. So, uh, worst case
scenario, we're stuck with what we have.
Best case scenario, they declare them
illegal and and we get some deflation.
Now, what's going to matter more is that
economically, we just cleared a really
big catalyst. We really have no catalyst
now until the beginning of October. And
this is why in the meth membership I've
been talking about, hey, once we clear a
catalyst, we should be on a clear path
to $600 on the cues, which is remarkable
because even from this morning when I
mentioned it, uh we're we're up
substantially. Well, actually the $600
target we've had for a few weeks now uh
in the me Kevin membership, but this
morning just to give you a little
spoiler and then we'll talk about the
Federal Reserve here. To give you a
little spoiler in this morning's alpha
report, I said bearish real estate
stocks today because of the yield
rebound on a neutral Powell. Bullish
Palunteer, bullish hood, bullish Q's,
bearish Tesla on the day. Those were my
calls in the meet Kevin Alpha report
this morning. Remember that's at
meet.com. And take a look at this cues
from or hood from what we mentioned it
way up over 3 and a.5%. Palanteer from
when we mentioned it up over three and a
half%. The Q's moving up, real estate
stocks down, and Tesla down. Mostly
because Tesla is in no man's life. But
beyond this Supreme Court catalyst, we
kind of have to look and go, okay, you
know, what is there that's actually
going to hold this market down right
now? Well, not rates, because the
broader stock market doesn't really care
if yields move higher a little bit. This
is very normal. Federal Reserve doesn't
want to aggressively cut. So yields move
up. 10 years almost at my target of 4.15
for a neutral power. We almost ran up to
4.15. We're at, you know, 4.126 right
now. Uh this my expectation is actually
that this is supportive in the stock
market until we actually get some real
bad catalysts. Now, we had the leading
index this morning that came out with,
you know, their recessionary uh triggers
or sell triggers, but really the leading
index has just been wrong and wrong and
wrong for the past 3 years. The leading
index registered its largest monthly
decline since April of 2025, so
liberation day. They think that tariffs
are going to continue to be a drag on
the economy. And you can see the leading
index has been in decline for 3 years.
On top of that, the leading index is
indicating recessionary triggers, but
these triggers have been firing in 22,
in 23, and again now. So, I don't know
how reliable this is. And the only thing
that's actually propping up the leading
index is the S&P 500 more broadly. A
little bit credit here, but that's a
little circular in nature. It's like the
more the S&P 500 goes out, the the more
bullish the data. But that's ironic
because the S&P 500 goes up off of the
data. that is sort of based on the S&P
500 going up. So, it's this circular uh
momentum of of bullishness. But the
reality is, you know, people are
cheering that unemployment claims uh you
know, have their largest fall since 2020
today. But that's only because we
normalized after that crazy spike we got
from Texas last week. If you actually
look at unemployment claims o on a
sixmonth rolling basis going back to
2022, unemployment claims have basically
done nothing. I mean, look at this.
Unemployment claims 218 in the first
half on average in 2022. Right now,
we're at 227. Who cares? Doesn't mean
anything. Now, if you look on a week
overweek basis, of course, you're going
to have volatility. Now, look at that
volatility.
But, you know, once you smooth it out,
we're really not much meaningfully
higher than we were in 2022. Uh, and so
this is leading, you know, the
economists to actually make the argument
maybe there's a chance the Fed's going
to end up having policy that's too
loose. All of this, mind you, bullish
for stocks. The stock market just wants
to avoid a recession. The stock market
doesn't really care what rates do. The
stock market wants earnings to go up and
wants to avoid a recession. And by
getting three 25 basis point cuts, what
Jerome Powell is essentially trying to
set up, just like Nick T mentioned in
his Fed article this morning, is that
hey, we're trying to set up for uh a a
you know, an economy that avoids a
recession just like we did in 1995 when
we had our prior soft landing. And what
did we do in 1995? Well, we ended up
with loosening
interest rate policy. We never got
higher than 63 basis points on the 102
yield curve and we ended up soft
landing. Yeah, we had a period of slower
economic growth growth, but then we soft
landed after that. So now you've got the
102 yield curve sitting at 55 basis
points. We're below that 63 high, below
that high that we saw in 1995.
Uh and
really you've got no catalyst until
October. What do you have in October?
again October 1st ADP October 3rd jobs
report then we'll get some inflation
numbers and at the end of October we'll
get another Fed meeting but unless jobs
fall off a cliff this idea of being
modestly bullish on the cues for a slow
kind of schlog up to 600 which is what
we've been calling for in the course
member liveream makes sense it is
entirely reasonable that we can keep
chugging along and there's really
nothing that says in the morning after
that Powell you know should be a lot
more bearish and should be rapidly
cutting. Now, he was very aggressive
yesterday. I was frustrated with him
because out of one side of his mouth,
he's like, "We have serious risk to the
downside." But I also get it because
when we look at the data, it's like, is
it really rolling over? And this is
where the economist said something that
they haven't said before, which is this
idea that net migration could end up
going negative. This I thought was
really interesting. Some researchers
think that net migration this year will
be negative. Well, damn. No. Well, we've
talked about the unemployment or the the
jobs break even rate being very low.
Now, Jerome Powell talks about that jobs
growth is below the break even rate
right now. But nobody really knows
because what if we end up having
population shrinkage this year? Nobody
wants shrinkage.
>> Little PP. Nobody wants shrinkage. But
it's possible that if our break even
like if net migration goes negative,
then the break even rate for employment
would actually also go negative.
So maybe there really isn't a jobs
issue. I don't know. Obviously, we'll be
paying attention at the beginning of
October, but between now and the next
two weeks,
I just can't be bearish on the market. I
think it's slow up. no analysis over the
last, you know, 12 hours or whatever or
24 hours almost here since since the Fed
has has made me think otherwise. Uh and
uh we're looking looking on a daily
basis, you know, where are the red flags
in the economy,
waiting and seeing.
Of course, the labor market is the
biggest risk. Of course, the fact that
the top 10% of spenders make up roughly
half of all spending in America is an
issue. Of course, slightly elevated
inflation still contributed to by
tariffs is an issue. But if we're
waiting for that big moment where, you
know, Treasury yields plummet, the stock
market sells off, and there's some kind
of crisis. The only place you're really
going to get it is in jobs data.
That's the only thing that's going to
move this. So again, October 1st and
3rd. and until then probably slow it up.
Uh and uh I think we're going to hit
that $600 Q's target very quickly and so
we'll keep sending the alpha reports.
But we're pretty excited about it. Uh so
anyway, that's my take on on where we
sit with the market right now. And it's
it's not bad. Uh I think that's why it,
you know, puts me at basically 50/50 on
the bare bulls scale. I mean, we're
buying stocks for, you know, top 10
stocks to buy for the next 10 years. Uh
but um you know these are stocks we
think will do well recession or not. You
know, as I like to say, recession or
not, here we come. But um wow,
kind of in a good spot right now. I
don't know. Leave me your comments. Let
me know what you think in terms of why
maybe uh we're missing something.
So here's a great question from the
chat. Uh we've got Hybrid Universe says,
"I'm curious. Do they actually put
immigration jobs in the jobs data? How
can that be used to adjust for how many
jobs we should have? This is a great
question
and the answer is the Bureau of Labor
Statistics has absolutely no idea if the
jobs are immigration based or not.
That's because when the Bureau of Labor
Statistics calls businesses to say, "Yo,
how many employees you got?" They don't
say, "How many Americans you got versus
how many people from Mexico you got?"
They they don't ask that. So the Census
Bureau,
they when they ask how many people are
in a household, they try to get
information on where people are from,
but they don't ask if people are legal
or illegal.
But the Census Bureau will count
population growth and so the delta in
population growth. So we'll get net
migration from the Census Bureau, which
will tell us how much is is the
population growing or shrinking.
Typically growing. Uh, and then the
Bureau of Labor Statistics, they're just
calling businesses going, "Hey, how many
people you got working?" Or they're
calling households going, "How many
people in your house are working?"
Right? Household survey, payroll survey.
So, nowhere do these two things get
reconciled. Basically, you just have
economists that are going, "Hey,
uh, if migration is slowing down, then
we would expect to see fewer jobs show
up in the jobs report." That's it.
So, like it's possible though that that
economist argument is covering up what
is truly a serious weakening in the
labor market. That is the risk factor
that this immigration idea is uh
covering up and masking real underlying
issues.
And uh and that then leads the Federal
Reserve to go, we don't really have to
cut that aggressively because things are
mostly fine. You know, things are a
little softer than than break evens, but
you know, mostly fine. And that's why we
had such a neutral Fed yesterday. Uh
could that lead them to make a policy
mistake? Of course. But remember, Jerome
Powell is of the mindset that if SH9
hits the fan, he'll just cut to zero. So
that's why Powell was so neutral
yesterday. That's why my base case
yesterday in the alpha report was that
POW's going to be neutral and yields are
going to go up to 4.15.
You know, that's what I told course
members before it happened. That's what
I thought the base case was. You know, I
mean, we didn't get all the way to 4.15,
but we got to 4.126, which is pretty
damn close to 4.15, and we could still
settle out over there last few days. But
uh really it's it's a really good
question because
it's basically economists guessing that
if the economy is slowing or if if the
if the population is growing slower then
how many jobs we should be getting would
be lower. That argument though could
mask real weakness. And then again this
is why I say the two things that you pay
attention to are the labor force
participation rate. If it goes up, the
unemployment rate will skyrocket.
Uh and or if layoffs go up, the
unemployment rate will skyrocket. Those
are the things you really have to pay
attention to. So it's it's tough. It's a
tough tough environment.
Uh no. So that's so somebody's asking,
hey, why basically the question is
basically why did yields go down
yesterday? Okay. So in the dovish
scenario,
yields would go down, right? So you have
to see you need in financial analysis,
you need nuance and it's really really
important. So I'm going to make it very
clear. Why did yields initially go down
yesterday after the Fed meeting? Uh
let's explain. So yields initially fell
yesterday because the statement seemed
doubbish. Uh
you know my prediction uh if Powell
doubbish yields down under 4%. Uh if
Powell neutral yields up to 4.15%.
Right? The statement was doubbish yields
fell under 4%. Powell was neutral.
Yields
up on Powell. uh which matters more than
the statement. So that's that's what you
have to understand when when you look at
financial analysis. You have to
understand what are you basing the
scenarios on. The scenarios are based on
POW. That's what matters. But you get
the statement 30 minutes before Powell
comes out. So of course the market is
going to have a reaction function to
that statement as a potential tell of
what Powell is going to do.
Uh,
obviously we got a neutral pow. So
anyway, uh, so
Antonio's House of Pizza says, "Kevin, I
want to become a member. I really like
your analysis." Oh, well, thank you. Uh,
yeah. Well, join us over at mekevin.com.
We'd love to have you. I want You're
making me hungry, man. I want some
pizza. The one thing that is fair is
worrying about that 27we unemployed
number. The 27-we unemployed number
usually only rises when you're in a
recession, not at the beginning of a
recession. It's not a leading indicator.
It's a tell that you're already in a
recession. And this is probably just the
most bearish thing that we could pull
out in addition to having been inverted
on the yield curve. Right? So, yield
curve inversion and the 27 weeks
unemployed. This is one of the reasons
why one of the major reasons why I'm
still like, you know, only fiveish on
the bare bull scale. Like I'm not I'm
not uber bull here. Valuations are high.
Yes, I'm buying. I've got 10 stocks to
buy over the next 10 years. Uh but I'm
buying very specific stocks for what I
think will do well no matter what
happens, recession or not. But this
number is bad. So there was a question
here in the chat that says, uh, is it
true that if you've been out of a job
for 6 months or more, they no longer
include you in the unemployment number?
Yes, that is absolutely true.
So, you end up showing up in this chart
if you're long-term unemployed. You kind
of get like categorized into your own
little bucket. And this chart has been
rising consistently.
Uh, and it is a sign that you are in a
recession historically.
So, yes, this is a lingering red flag.
Absolutely. Tell us about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes. Congratulations, man.
You have done so much. People love you.
People look up to you. Kevin Praath
there, financial analyst and YouTuber,
Meet Kevin. Always great to get your
take.
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