Destroying TRUMP & Joe Rogan FIGHTS BACK

was the star of The Apprentice he had

built some buildings he was a

billionaire had a beautiful wife what

were you going to say eight years later

there's a lot to say and a lot to

differentiate and that's exactly what

I'm going to do and nobody else in this

race is willing to do it they're afraid

to do it or they're unable to do it and

we're going to do it why is that well I

think over time uh you know Donald Trump

has cowed a lot of people Becky and you

know people get upset about being called

names in public I'm from New Jersey I

get called names of public all the time

it doesn't matter I'm used to it and

I've known him for 22 years I think the

difference is most of the people in

politics have only known them for eight

or nine or ten years I've known for 22

years I'm not afraid of him he's a paper

tiger what how did it take what was it

with him that you thought forget it I'm

not going to work with you anymore or

support you anymore election night 2020.

I was sitting on the set at ABC and when

he got out there and said at 2 30 in the

morning the election's been stolen when

I know that the votes weren't even all

counted yet he couldn't have had any

idea that the election stolen I said you

can't stand as president United States

in the East room of the White House and

say that to the American people it

undercuts their confidence in the

Democracy we've seen what's happened in

the two and a half years since then on

that and I sat there I turned to George

stephanopus I said come to me right

after the speech because I've got

something to say and that was really the

breaking point for the two of us and at

that time that was a relationship that I

got on for almost 20 years but you know

you can't do that stuff to our democracy

when you've been privileged to be

president of the United States and and

now you see some of the crazy stuff he

said last night on TV that I didn't

respond to a grand jury subpoena because

you know I'm very busy how many rounds

of golf has he played in the two and a

half years since he left office he's too

busy to go through the boxes to do what

to to move classified information from

his golf shirts and his golf pants

that's seemingly what he was saying last

night like the voters in the United

States are going to listen to this Joe

and they're going to say no not this

time we've seen this show we don't want

to rerun

Christy here is being very aggressive

obviously for you know his own purposes

but this is a big big aggression now

we're like and he called

you see when he says to Santas it just

comes out to sanctimonious I mean he

said it last night it was like I said

what did he say oh he's talking about

this well of course hey look he's into

the name calling and all the rest of

that and that's fine it it was it was

new it was different eight years ago it

is old now Joe and it's going to get

even older look at those numbers Chris

look I see him you know what look I see

them and I and I will tell you what

um this election is not decided today uh

and those numbers are National numbers

no one's running campaign against him

yet

but people will start to do it remember

when he said I could shoot someone on

Fifth Avenue yeah that's still true for

and I I would never ever ever channel uh

Hillary Clinton but there are is what

are those 30 that just no matter what

just are they deplorables how does that

no what what has happened is he is

tapped into the uh anxiety and anger a

lot based off the economy guys that

where people feel like yeah we should

talk about they're displaced you got to

have your own ideas if you want to do it

what do we inflation's bad what caused

the inflation and what do we do about it

excessive government spending you know

what caused the inflation it was out of

control ridiculous it's everywhere it's

not just here but listen if something

like that happens in the United States

it spreads everywhere where the most

dominant it's uh quickly just worth

noting that uh Donald Trump did mention

that in 2016. I could shoot somebody and

I wouldn't lose any votes obviously I

think he's making it was a rhetorical

argument it's worth putting into a

little more content text it was a

political campaign rally in 2016. it

would be Trump's platform right look

except I'd be able to do it you know

this is a guy who said he was going to

build the wall on the southern border

Mexico was going to pay for it and we

have a quarter of a wall and not the

first peso in the door what do you do

with immigration and what do you do with

them to do two things first it's a Well

three things I'd say first at the border

for right away I said National Guard to

the border to interdict fentanyl uh 110

000 overdose deaths in this country last

year it's now the leading killer in men

18 to 34 in this country that's job one

um job two is to finish building the

wall we started it let's just finish it

and get that done and third is to bring

both parties together like I did in New

Jersey on things like pension reform and

health benefit reform and police reform

where people said none of these things

can be done we do that on immigration

and say to everybody everyone's gonna

have to give something on this that they

don't like but in the end we need to do

things like all these graduate students

who come from over the world to come to

school here they should stay here and

work here we need to have a merit-based

system on immigration where the people

who can contribute to our economy and

our society get to stay here but to get

that we're gonna have to make

compromises with the other side and be

able to get that done I did that in the

blue state for eight years it's a skill

you have to know how to do it and not be

afraid of doing it so those are the

three things I think we need to do on

immigration you do those three things

we'll have immigration under control and

our economy will grow what would you do

with the dreamers

I did this in New Jersey look at it with

dreamers in New Jersey we gave them

in-state tuition rates I'm paying as a

New Jersey taxpayer to educate them K

through 12. don't we want them to be

able to afford to go to college then

we've already made that investment once

they've come here

um and so that's but you know larger

dreamers it's not going to be part of an

overall deal everyone's got to be able

to get something out of this for it to

be done because otherwise we're gonna be

sitting here with the same problem 20

years from now and that's not going to

be good for the safety of our country

it's not going to be good for our

economy

the uh

31 trillion 30 I don't know who's

specifically he could have said that a

lot more clearly the implies we're

paying for people to go to college it's

it's more taxpayers are already paying

for K-12 so may as well also let them go

to college

so only thing that will solve any of

this

is probably gross other people would

argue we need more Revenue higher taxes

like we didn't have enough like how much

did we do we have last year to spend and

still didn't have enough look it's it's

not higher it's not higher taxes Joe

well that's what you're going to hear oh

that's what you're going to hear but

that's Joey's here from the other side

there's two things you have to do you

have to revitalize the economy to bring

more growth and secondly you have to

reduce spending you just have to where

you have Debt Service well well you

obviously can't reduce that job but we

have spent trillions on other things

over the last five years trillions

Donald Trump said when he ran in 2016 I

will balance the budget in four years he

left with the largest deficit of any

president modernism before covert he had

that Joe he was running huge deficits

and we need to deal with Social Security

because 2034 24 benefit cut there are

millions of people in this country we

won't talk about that if you're the

nominee you of course I will I'm talking

about it right now the fact is you have

to look at things like beans testing for

the very wealthy don't need to get

Social Security and secondly for people

in their 30s and 40s we need to consider

you know raising the retirement age

they'll have plenty of time to plan for

that oh that'll be very unpopular but

for people in their 30s or 40s you have

time for your remember what happened in

Paris the plan for that it was all the

young people who protested bring

um the cost down

who who are your your backers at this

point financially because you know

we might like to think that anybody can

get elected without Financial backing

but you need it yeah and I wouldn't have

gotten into the race unless I had some

very significant people I don't want to

do it yet Becky because we're going to

put out a report

um on June you know mid-july for our

June 30th report but I think what you're

going to find are a lot of people who

were with Donald Trump before are now

with us some folks who are with other

candidates in 2016 like Jeb Bush like

Marco Rubio are now with us and I think

folks who want someone who's going to

take this on directly we were talking

about this before we came on how do you

win this race

it's fantasy to believe you can win this

race by not taking on Donald Trump he's

in front how do you beat someone and not

talk about them I look at the other

candidates in this race they're trying

to keep the 30. 30 they're never getting

the 30. Joe if if you if you like Coke

a new code comes out why are you buying

new Coke

you say I like Coke it's right over here

I've been drinking it forever I'm gonna

keep drinking it for a minute

later but here's the thing you you have

to be able to differentiate yourself

70 percent of the Republican primary

electorates say either I will never vote

for Trump or I'm considering voting for

someone else how about we focus on the

70 instead of the 30. I wish I you know

you had lightning in a bottle at that

one point when you I think maybe I hope

you recapture uh Governor just to give

them all right we'll watch it thank you

right here with you and you'll come back

on okay and the Andrew's not here this

morning what a gift this is like this is

like my summer gift that Andrew's not

here come back we will okay thank you

all right I mean honestly you have to

say he's

there's some things he could say more

clearly I think to Americans when he's

speaking I think he's speaking in such a

way that unless you know some of the

specific details of what he's talking

about it's somewhat hard to follow along

uh see that's something that Donald

Trump does great you know he'll play it

very very translate things very very

simply uh that's a very big difference

between the two here right you get this

uh Chris Christie all right you know

we're gonna we haven't seen a dime of

pesos come in the door yet it's like you

know this this translated into and then

kind of quickly skirts past that we only

Built a fourth of the wall and haven't

seen a dime of pesos yet in the door if

Donald Trump were to make that argument

it'd be more like

the guy only finished 25 of his job and

didn't get paid a nickel I'd get paid

100 and I do 100 of the job you know

something like that I'm not an obviously

a trumpet person here but the point is

that that

um I think the impacts are missing a

little bit from uh from Chris Christie

so if there was any advice it'd probably

be something like that

um but anyway

um it's it's I think we all recognize

it's probably going to be another uh

unless there's some more candidates that

enter probably looking at another uh

trumpy Biden Showdown so we'll see

nobody knows him but uh it's uh it's

gonna be interesting it's gonna be a

crazy election cycle uh and uh hopefully

some of the ideas from some of the other

candidates get adopted by some of the

main candidates because there are good

ideas floating around uh from the other

candidates but sort of like when I ran

for governor in California I had uh I

had plans to uh for a temporary period

of time utilize the National Guard to

help us solve our homelessness crisis in

California and uh I thought our

obviously I thought my idea was great uh

but anyway My Hope was that if I didn't

win which I didn't uh if I didn't win I

actually came in second and recall

candidates that at least some of the

ideas would survive and uh I saw a lot

of the ideas come up and still do in

elections for example my National Guard

for for homelessness uh plan was adopted

by the uh Republican mayoral candidate

for Los Angeles of course he didn't win

either uh sorry anyway that's California

for you but uh somebody who wish I'll

see uh okay so um

let's um oh yeah and then of course over

the weekend if you missed the drama it's

a good point Steve uh there's been a lot

of drama about uh you know you've got on

one hand RFK who went on Joe Rogan's

podcast for three hours and made a lot

of vaccine claims and claims that Wi-Fi

causes cancer vaccines cause autism and

that you know the covet vaccines are

also bad and I think there are a lot

more people who agree with well the

covert vaccines are also not effective

at least uh compared to you know people

worrying about Wi-Fi although maybe we

should be uh or or you know all vaccines

cause autism right these these sort of

claims uh have many times been debated

before and some of the drama that's

happened politically over the weekend is

that you have uh some very very

prominent vaccine scientists who uh

dispute the claims of RFK on Twitter but

uh once invited by Joe Rogan uh and even

financially supported uh by by other

people on Twitter Twitter who are saying

look we'll pay money to have a debate

between someone like RFK and a vaccine

scientist because we think these sort of

debates should be happening with

Scientists you have a little bit more of

a oh no no we're scientists we're not

debaters and so then people are like

okay well then does that mean somebody

who's making claims like RFK wins by

default

well no but then if you're not willing

to debate then who is well it should be

somebody educated right but if a

scientist isn't willing to debate then

like who is so yeah you know you're

gonna get a big hole right now uh and uh

you know I think it's obviously

substantially way too early to draw any

particular confusions her conclusions

rather but I will say it's given RFK a

lot of social media clout specifically

at least on Twitter uh but then again

Twitter skews very very heavily towards

the

uh Free Speech absolutist uh direction

that anybody should be willing to stand

for an opinion that they they make and

to some extent there's a lot of Merit to

that so anyway we'll see but I I don't

know I don't want to get so terribly

deep into politics but um anywho uh that

uh that gives us a little bit on um

Christine