Dangerous Jet Landing: Phenom 300e WORST TURBULENCE Yet
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Yeah, the ride of it. Yes, exactly. You
want vectors to final now? Guess if he
gave it to us. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah,
they're having fun roller coaster.
Enjoy. I'm sorry.
Oh, you are in a pitch mode, too.
I'm sorry.
So, in this video, you're going to see
the most turbulence that I've had in the
Phenom 300. It is a multi-engine jet
aircraft. And I'll tell you, there was a
moment in the landing where I was like,
"Oh, I might have to go around here."
Clear to land 17. Right. Oh, man.
I start that turn to final. Jesus.
All right, turn into final. There you
go. Before landing, y dampers off.
Landing gear down through green flaps
are full. Air speed's good. You're clear
to land 17, right? Just a little high.
Yeah, for sure.
Overshooting just a bit here. 500.
Okay, coming out of the bank.
Bring that power back. It was a little
fast. There you go. Oh, yeah. Definitely
overcorrected. Yeah, but I was heading
to Vegas because we were doing uh we
were heading out to the uh Crypto.com
credit card launch event. They invited
us to the UFC fight. They also had a
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to not to the club part but to the uh to
the rest. Uh and it was a really cool
experience. And so I flew myself there
uh with a co-pilot. This is us after we
saw two KOs at the UFC, which was crazy,
by the way. I'd never been to a UFC
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switch Papa Las Vegas approach 125.47.
257 6 niner 4 Papa. Thank you. Okay,
power's back. Seat belt signs are on.
Switching over.
Las Vegas approach phenom 6 niner 4 papa
papa at 2000 0 descending 110 at Kong.
69 papa papa Las Vegas approach. You're
going to expect a visual approach 17
right at Henderson Las Vegas alimter 2
niner 87.
Roger. Expect visual 17 speed up 6 ner 4
papa 4 papa papa. There's also uh
reports of moderate turbulence 1200 and
below.
All right. So this is important. So a
few things here. Going into Henderson
sucks cuz they do not have an approach
into 17. The only way you can get into
17 is on a visual. The problem with
going into runway 17 on a visual with uh
uh with a jet is you have a very very
tight turning radius and that ends up
becoming a problem in my opinion. I
didn't really love it. I mean it's good
experience but I don't really love it.
That ends up becoming a problem because
you make these tight turns to avoid the
Bravo shelves. Uh, and to me it's
dangerous because you risk overbanking
especially if you're in uh a um uh you
know hot turbulent air environment where
you're already fighting a sink rate. So
if you zoom into Harry Reid, you'll see
Harry Reid right here, all the various
Bravo shelves. Henderson Airport is
right here. And so the flight path that
we end up taking uh takes us essentially
out this way
uh and then here and we have to make
this very tight bank right here to avoid
that bravo shelf otherwise we get in
trouble and come in. There's no
approach. So it's all visual. You just
can't there's no instrument to go in on
this side. Now once we make our turn we
do end up having a papy but we don't
actually have like a GPS approach. It's
just purely visual. Uh, which again
sucks with that Bravo shelf right there
because of the Harry Reed airspace,
which you would get into right above
you. Uh, and getting a report of
moderate turbulence. Not great. So,
you'll see me give the warning to Jack
and get everybody to buckle up,
including Lauren.
Roger. Thank you. 4. Yeah, I'm going to
let him know in the back. Jack's like
standing up, so I don't want him to go
flying. Yeah, good call.
[Applause]
going to be really bumpy in about 3
minutes or so. Watching your seats for
that. Tell everyone you're safe. All
right.
All right. It's hot enough. Windshields
are off. Pressurization set.
Landing speeds are set. Fasten seat
belts are good. Descent is check. Next
is just approach lights. Passengers
we've already talked to. Cross.
Probably throw your coffee away or maybe
I'll stick it back here. Yes, please.
Yeah, it's it's empty. I drank it all.
Thank you though for looking out. Yeah.
Okay. 2 niner niner one is set. That was
on the adus. Roger that. We've got a
speed restriction coming up. So, I'm
just going to leave the power right here
since we're kind of slowly trending down
anyway. Oh, yeah. You can go to FNS.
There you go. We're about 280 knots.
It wants to catch 300.
Jack is not listening to either the seat
belt sign or Tanner to buckle up. It'll
switch to 250 for you. Uhoh. That's
probably just your standard descent. You
don't have to do that. I see. You want
me to load in like the visual 17 right
on here or? Yeah, let's do it if you
don't mind. Okay. I'm going to go to PA.
So, what I do now is I actually switch
from my radios with Tanner and ATC to
the PA and you'll hear me talk to Lauren
about Jack since I see him still
standing. really quick. Would you mind
monitoring? Yeah, I got the coms.
Hey, Lauren, can you make sure Jack's
buckled up just because they're they've
told us twice now it's going to be bumpy
and they rarely they rarely complain to
me that it's going to be Well, they said
moderate. So, that's not comfortable. By
the way, this is the actual flight path
that we took on this. So roughly where
we sit right now is probably around here
uh in the flight path. And you can see
our speed uh based on the green line
here on the right really fluctuates
right around this 250 to 280 knot area.
This is where we start really feeling
some turbulence along with uh down as we
get closer to the actual airport. Uh but
again, you could see me kiss that Bravo
right there. Some might actually say I'm
maybe even slightly inside of it right
there. But how tight they make you pull
it in like this. Didn't even feel safe
in my opinion. Uh, you know, it's not
what I would have enjoyed. I would have
liked to have come out more, but you'll
get to see exactly what that feels like.
Traffic pattern over there. Papa vectors
for Henderson 3 4 0 descend and maintain
9,000.
Turn left 3 4 0 descent and maintain
niner,000. 6 niner 4 pop. Thank you.
Okay, heading set and 9,000
is set as well. Yeah, I think get rid of
V-NAV too if you want. It's cold. I
think it's four pop. We're just getting
into that moderate chop now.
Four papa papa. Roger. If you want to
slow down, just let me know.
Welcome for pop.
Guess if he gave it to us. Yeah, let's
do it. They're having fun. Roller
coaster. Enjoy. I'm climbing.
[Music]
Oh, you are in a pitch mode, too.
You can see everyone's hands fly up
there. All pitch. Those always get get
the passengers when your stomach goes
up. Wee.
We told you.
All right. Where'd it go? 10 for nine.
Sure.
We're 10,000 ft in the air now.
Descending to 9,000. Everybody's having
a blast in the back. Not really. They're
panicking. I'm going about 215 knots.
I've got the power set essentially at
idle at this point just to uh get this
aircraft slowed down to more of an
approach speed. And we're going to get
get our gear down in a moment as well.
But then again, you know what? If we
stick with them, we don't have to worry
about just threw a little bit of power
in there. You may have seen my right
hand. Just to capture a little bit of
this 210 until we get the gear down and
then we'll get flaps down at 180. Yeah.
To our left. That's fine. One to go. One
to go. 4 Papa when able advis 11 at
12:00. 12 miles inside. 4 Papa
cleared visual approach. 17 right to
Anderson. Join left downwind.
Cleared visual approach. Join left
downwind. 17
Papa right. 17 right. 6 niner 4 Papa.
All right. Visual.
So that means we can start descending.
So, let's get down to Yeah. What is the
elevation? 25. So, 4,000. Yeah. I'm just
going to cancel AP if you don't mind.
Sure. Autopilot. Fly. All right. It's
all manual now. Watch the ridge over
here. Oh, yeah. You're good. Definitely.
I mean, it's what 4,000. Yeah, actually,
if you don't mind. Maybe shallow this
out a little. There you go. Phenom 64
in makes left traffic 7 right. Report
midfield left. Report midfield left.
Traffic 17 right. 18 64 Papa
came down
left at 4,000 until we get past and I'll
be looking for
it's always interesting too because
everybody's talking right that's that's
one of the things that you find in these
sort of critical phases of flight is
your co-pilot's talking to you
passengers are talking uh you're uh you
know, you're trying to get the flaps
ready, you're trying to like you go
through your checklist, do we have the
landing gear down and all of this uh and
it makes it a little bit more stressful,
a little bit more involved, but well,
and this is exactly why we talk about
critical phases of flight like leave the
pilots alone, minimize uh ex, you know,
extraneous talking.
I'll level up 4,000 until we get past
midfield. I'll be Looking for a looking
good right here. Left uh left traffic
right. It's funny. Somebody in the
comments is like this seems like the
easiest job AI will take over. It's
probably one of the last jobs AI will
take over because even though AI can
help complement what happens when you
lose your autopilot. I guess you're
crashing if you're relying on AI. You
know, here you're we're not even in
weather, right? We're in turbulence and
this is all hand flown which is
challenging.
Go flaps two. He checked. Flaps two. Go
to 130 for you.
Slow down a little bit.
That descent coming to 4,000.
Yeah, probably once you're a beam, the
runway start dumping her down cuz yeah,
we got the two mile base or two mile
final.
You just see that bobin. It's crazy.
Tower 7 ready to go. 17 right 38 7 0 in
tower fly straight out 7 clear probably
get down to about 35 here straight out
clear for takeoff right
he's on four papa we going left downwind
landing is parallel is a stationary
roger there's Vegas on the right yeah
this is where it gets a little tricky
right on glide path you're looking
really good here disregard still got the
little fast little keeper keep her
coming down yeah final's Clear. Clear to
land. 17 right. Oh man.
I start that turn to final. You see me
having to fight this.
All right. Turn into final. There you
go.
Before landing. Y dampers off. Landing
gear down through green. Flaps are full.
Air speed's good. You're clear to land.
17 right. Just a little high. There's my
runway.
Overshooting just a bit here. 500.
Okay, coming out of the bank.
Bring that power back. It was a little
fast. There you go. See how far to the
right my my yoke here is? I'm actually
having trouble getting the aircraft out
of the bank right now because we're in
the middle of a turbulence. Now, Tanner
said, "Bring that power back a little
bit because we're supposed to to land."
But I was feeling the lack of control in
the yoke. So, I actually put about 20%
more power in, which is what prompted
him to say it. Because you'll see when I
move that yolk to the right, my
indicator doesn't even fully move to the
right. And I'm fighting to get out of a
little bit of sink here. This is the
intense part. This is the part where you
want somebody who's trained, who knows
what they're doing, who's flying, you
know, you don't want to rely on a
computer because if that computer fails,
this is hard. Uh, you know, it's it's
the takeoff and land that matters so
much. And because of that, I actually
end up overbanking to the left a bit
because it takes so long for the plane
to respond in the middle of a thermal.
Uh, and that's where I'm like, I might
have to go missed. So, you'll see that
here. I'll just play it. But watch watch
my yoke. Bring that power back. It was a
little There you go. See how far to the
right I was there and was barely moving.
Yeah. Might have to go miss. Oh, no.
You're good. Glide pass coming in. Look
at those blocks. You're looking great.
Thank you. F10 looking good.
Altitude 870 traffic inbound from the
southeast about 13 1/2 miles
southsoutheast of the airport indicating
8,500 ft. Nal frequency isn't eclipse
yet. Let's go, dude. That was butter.
We'll be alert for them. Oh my gosh. Uh
this was the So I showed you the landing
first. I'll show you the takeoff of it,
which is about four or five minutes. But
uh yeah, I mean a lot of like I I look
at, you know, AI and computing software
on a daily basis, but in aviation, one
of the things that's wild is you always
have to assume none of that crap's going
to work. Your batteries go out, your
engines go out, you need to be able to
fly the plane like a glider, and you
always want a pilot who's capable of
actually doing that. So, while I think
in the future we'll probably be down at
more regularly one pilot cockpits, I
don't think we'll be at zero pilot
cockpit pits probably ever. But uh let's
take a look at the uh takeoff just
because the computer technology it's
good but you also don't want to be so
reliant on it in case something goes
wrong turn going and we got the
helicopter. Also mind you somebody's
asking in the comments about what about
like autoland software. Autoland works
in probably 2024 or 2025 model aircrafts
equipped with autoland like the Cirrus
Vision Jet has that. Uh I I'm not sure
if they're doing on their props yet. And
it really only works where instrument
approaches are available. So it's not
going to work for every airport.
They're coming to the Slooh via Fox
Trot. So behind us and I think the Slooh
is this funky thingy on the right over
there. Is that this guy right here? I'm
actually briefing that a helicopter just
moments before was given clearance to
take off and then basically turn in
front of us at like 500 ft in front of
where I'm supposed to take off. So, I'm
really paying attention to this
helicopter. And you'll hear that on the
takeoff, too. Oh, no. I thought he was
taking off. Oh, there's another guy
right over Oxar at 600 feet. Yeah, I see
that. Oh, he's doing Oh, maybe he's in
the pattern. He's in the pattern. Papa
pop the camera. Somebody in the chat's
asking, I have this debate often. Can
the average traveler on a commercial
flight land a plane in some random
scenario where they have to getting told
by ATC what to do? If you're not in
weather, you're not in crosswinds,
you're not on a wet runway, uh you're
not, you know, in like icy conditions,
you don't have an engine failure, all
your equipment's working appropriately,
and you can autopilot it to minimums.
Can the average person get guided how to
land the plane and not die? Yes. If any
of those variables are screwed up, you
have crosswinds and you have to know how
to use the rudders, you have to know how
to break appropriately, you have to deal
with flying it single engine, you're
cooked, you know, but you hope you don't
lose your pilots and have one of those
issues, right?
Turn left heading 250, runway 26, clear
for takeoff. 25 Z. Left 25, clear for
takeoff. 26 niner 4 Papa. Thank you. All
set. Okay, lights are on. You're good. I
saw you adjust to 25. Thanks for that.
Yep. 250 left turn. Good. Final's clear.
All right.
There he is. The helicopter's taking
off. Oh, he's taking off from the taxi
way towards the Slooh, which is at the
end. So, we got to get above him. It's
fine cuz he could turn right and then
we're turning 25 slight left. Okay.
All right. Finals clear. 5,000 to go.
I feel our weight today. Oh, yeah.
fully loaded, warm day, and full of
fuel. Uh, very common also when you're
waiting 10 minutes in the taxi line for
us to get the FMS disagree cast message
on takeoff, which you'll see that here.
Hey, 26 helicopter inside. No factor.
Come to Chi 2 9 holding runway 26 on
alpha 2. All right, 26 heading good.
Ready? Yes, sir. Let's do it. Okay.
Powering. ATR is in the green. Yep.
Disregard.
Okay. Brakes off.
Your speed alive three ways.
70. Sure.
See that helicopter coming over? That's
what I was worried about.
Hey, B1 rotate. The helicopter is no
factor. B2. Positive right. Positive
right. You're up. Go.
I got that helicopter in sight. No
factor. I'm going to start turning left
though. Helicopter 65 north back report
on
the option north
check niner 7 Mike right down approved
runway 26 clear for takeoff. Caut
heading four papa papa. You you could
see just how much happens there, right?
Like during the takeoff, I'm watching
the helicopter that's flying right below
me that I'm taking off over. Uh I'm also
having to turn into a heading. My
autopilot isn't on yet. In fact, I just
said AP on heading. So, in other words,
I've enabled the autopilot at this very
moment. At the same time as I'm reaching
over to turn on the autopilot and I'm
getting the traffic alerts, what
happens? I get a, you know, the tower
calling me, hey, you're good to switch
over to the departure controller. That's
great. So, the tower is handing me off
the departure. Now, I talk to the
departure person and the departure
person is going to I have to tell them
what altitude I'm at. If they don't
clear me for a higher altitude soon,
I've got to level off the plane.
Otherwise, I'm going to breach the
30,000 altitude that they gave me. The
lot in it's the takeoff and land that's
the most critical by far and it's the
most stressful. Your departure.
Contacting departure for Papa.
Oops.
Departure. All right. Departure Phenom
69er 4 Papa 1600. Climbing 3,000. Number
6 niner 4 Papa radar contact. Climb
maintain 4,000. Climb maintain 4,000. 6
niner 4 Papa. Thank you. All right. Uh,
landing gear is up. Papa contact
approach 128. See, like I'm literally
trying to go through my checklist.
Then she says, "Oh, welcome to this
frequency. Actually, use a different
frequency."
And there's so much going on that I
accidentally click away from her and I
missed the last part of her frequency.
Fortunately, Tanner remembered what
frequency she was sending us to. You
could watch that happen here.
That's going to be 2865, right? 128 65 6
niner 4 pop I think. Right. 2865.
Good memory, dude. Yeah, no problem. I
kind of have a photographic memory. So,
one to go. Departure Phenom 6 ner 4.
Papa at 3,000. Climbing 4,000.
Phenom 6 niner 4 Papa approach. Climb
maintain 8,000. Climb maintain 8,000. 6
niner 4 Papa. Thank you.
All right. 8,000 set.
Boy, coast is talked in today. Yeah, no
kidding.
Traffic looks good. We've got uh landing
gear is up, flap is up, flap setting
agrees, landing gear settings agree,
thrust level is already set to con
climb. Good. Speed select good.
Altimeter good. Constantly training is
so important, especially with a second
pilot, because not only are you always
learning from someone else over time,
and you learn different strategies, but
you're constantly dealing with different
weather, uh, different cloud conditions,
icing conditions, and it's really easy
to get overwhelmed and overworked and in
those critical phases of flight, usually
the landing and takeoff, and those are
the times when oopsie dupsies happen,
which which isn't great. Somebody here
says, "How far do you think we are from
not needing pilots because of
automation?" E-Hang has EV talls that
don't need pilots. Uh but they can only
move two people per flight, right? Yeah.
I mean, a lot of the EV tall aircraft,
uh typically what I've seen from other
companies like Archer Aviation or others
is four passengers, carry-on bags, and a
pilot. A lot of that has to do with
weight. You should watch my video on
those. Uh you could just type into
YouTube Archer Aviation Meet Kevin, and
you should see it on the EVs. But I
think it'll be an extremely long time
before you have no pilot at all. Mostly
because all it would take is one
accident where the automation failed,
the electronics failed and you didn't
have somebody who was able to actually
land the aircraft without the automation
because you could easily have an
automation failure or software glitch.
And the thing that I always like having
in the back of my mind, or it's actually
almost kind of front of mind, is anytime
I'm flying, I actually fly with the
mindset that I'm ready to take this
aircraft over without any electronics at
all functioning on the plane. And I
think that's a very important mindset to
have. So, for example, when I uh direct
airport maintain here, when when I'm
flying like this, what you'll actually
find is when we go for the autopilot
disconnect and then it's, you know, all
hand flown, which all of this is hand
flown. Don't mind like the bird or the
insect splatter on the windshield. All
this is hand flown. Uh, all I have to do
to take over the aircraft is push this
red button right here. So, this is my
magic autopilot disconnect button. Uh,
and to me it's great because it shuts
off my yaw damper. It shuts off the
autopilot, gives me full control, and
then I can handle the plane. I don't
have to worry about uh, you know, the
automation being in some funky setting
or whatever. I'm just going to treat it
like a bird and fly it the way, you
know, it should be flown. Uh, again, in
my opinion, very important. So, I think
you see that
disconnect
right here in the video.
AP, if you don't mind. Sure. Autopilot.
Yeah.
Autopilot's cancelled right there. So,
what to look for
is you'll actually see right here we see
AP and YD. That's the autopilot and yaw
dampener. And so with I just double
click it uh so it doesn't talk to me
more and it just fully cancels. But uh
then it'll yell autopilot and it's just
sort of your alert that you're in you're
flying now. Uh and sometimes the plane
is really mistrimmed with the autopilot
or it's trimmed for on autopilot stage
of flight versus me flying. So then I'll
have to you know trim it out more
appropriately. But uh it's like
practicing how to fly without the
autopilot is almost becoming a long-
lost skill. The FAA actually encourages
pilots fly more without autopilot so
they're prepared in the event their
avionics fail. Autopilot.
[Applause]
Let's watch the ridge. That's kind of
what that looks like. Good question
though. So when it comes to simulators,
it's a really good question. I really
don't like simulators for most flying
experience because like you say, you
don't get the geforce. You don't
actually feel the aircraft. Like when
when I turn the yolk coming in for that
landing and I'm not feeling the
responsiveness I'm used to, I'm
instantly going uh-oh. And I'm putting
gas on the, you know, I'm increasing my
throttle because not only is that going
to prepare me if I need to go around,
but putting some power in should give me
more speed. And speed is
controllability. The slower the aircraft
is, the splashier it is. So think about
that. If you know if if I'm coming in
and I'm going to bank and I'm going to
bank the other way and it's really
splashy, I'm going to accelerate. I
might even point the nose down to speed
up because that's going to let me
actually control the aircraft. You don't
have those feelings in a simulator. Now,
in fairness, uh and and landing is also
something you just learn by practicing
by doing so. So, you can get your smooth
landings. But simulators, I think, are
really good for training your memory
items. So, for example, if you're at
45,000 ft, you know, you could really
only train a rapid decompression in a
simulator. Uh, I could do I've done
emergency descents. I've done stalls in
this. Uh, but I've never done high
altitude stalls in it, you know, in the
air. That's something you would do in a
simulator. So, low altitude stalls, you
can do them in person. You know, we
usually fly at 5,000 ft and we stall the
aircraft, which is actually really fun.
Uh, I mean, you it's they're actually
surprisingly hard to stall at like 5,000
ft. We can be 5,000 ft up and you know,
full flaps in, gear down, and we're just
pulling back on the yolk and the lady's
going stall, stall, stall, stall, and
the plane's getting like really shaky,
and it kind of starts just like sinking
like this. It actually has a push uh you
know hydraulic that'll after three
stalls just send the nose of the plane
down. Uh and the whole point of that is
it's actually safer to be in this
configuration because then we can dive
out of it. Uh it's pretty remarkable
doing it in person. But uh yeah, some
things you just need the simulators for
those high altitude emergencies, fires,
uh a dual engine failure after takeout
uh takeoff. Uh engine failures I've done
during takeoff uh by just simulating
with pulling the throttle to idle, but
if you want to do like a complete engine
shutdown, you could do that easier in a
uh in a simulator. So that's that's a
good follow-up question as well. Why not
advertise these things that you told us
here? I feel like nobody else knows
about this. We'll we'll try a little
advertising and see how it goes.
Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you. Kevin Papra there, financial
analyst and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always
great to get your take.
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