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oh boy we got a lot to talk about

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regarding wage disinflation is it

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happening how's it happening where is it

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happening and are there red flags let me

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tell you up front there are some red

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flags we've got to pay attention to

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we'll start with some of the good news

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but you should stick around to the bad

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news because it's important to pay

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attention to not just the bullish news

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but also the bad so let's get into this

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new report out from Goldman Sachs before

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I get out get into this report from

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Goldman Sachs so I want to quickly

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remind you

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about what I've been saying over the

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last about three months during the

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beginning of this earnings cycle which

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is Starbucks Chipotle much easier time

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finding it much easier to hire folks

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less labor turnover and of course we've

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heard this before Lyft and Uber massive

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new availability of workers like a 37

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increase at lift leading to margins

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declining actually 37 increase of

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workers over at Uber but basically Lyft

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complained about an extreme increase in

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the availability of workers this is a

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good thing right it puts less pressure

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on wages which we we know that so going

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into this I just want to remind you of

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what I've been talking about already and

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seeing for the last months here but now

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we gotta look at Goldman Sachs do they

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reiterate my findings and what red flags

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do they give us so take a look at this

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so outlook on wages and potential wage

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disinflation take a look at this so

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right here significant Improvement in

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labor availability references in Russell

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3000 earnings calls so three thousand uh

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companies in earnings calls references

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to quote labor shortages or various

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different quotes of that have fallen to

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the lowest level of the pandemic

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recovery so post pandemic we're at the

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lowest level of references to shortages

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sitting at just 4.9 percent in Q4

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earnings calls compared to 16.5 percent

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in Q3 2021

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our more detailed review of the Dow and

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large cap consumer company transcripts

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was even more encouraging

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two-thirds of companies references

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two-thirds of references pointed to

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increased labor availability and no

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companies cited labor shortages

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worsening furthermore several companies

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viewed the Staffing situation as back to

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normal including Starbucks in Hilton hey

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look Starbucks was one that I was

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talking about for a while right okay

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great so where's the red flag because so

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far that sounds good right we'll talk

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about exactly that let's keep going here

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out of 44 of these calls discussing wage

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pressures in Q4 a third of them cited or

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expected a sequential moderation so this

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is one of the red flags a third of them

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basically only 33 percent of them were

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like yeah now we think wages are going

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to moderate right now that's different

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than than when we hear this sort of

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bullish attitude at first because the

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bullish attitude at first is yay no wage

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price spiral which reduces the risk of

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the draw of the Federal Reserve and

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Jerome Powell needing to rug pull

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markets and force the recession to

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prevent a 1970s style of runaway

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inflation and then we end up getting

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Paul volcker right we do not want that

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the good news is we are not seeing that

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indication no indication of a wage price

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spiral at all it's what I've been

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talking about for months it's what's

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good what Goldman is reiterating here

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however only a third of companies are

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actually expecting wages to potentially

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moderate which would be stay flat or

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potentially decline that means most

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companies are actually still that's 67

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percent of companies are still

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experiencing wage pressures but maybe

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not labor shortages that means you're

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hiring more people you're getting more

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availability but you are employing

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people at higher prices than you did

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maybe pre-pandemic right for example The

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Wall Street Journal had a podcast this

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morning it was about a 20-minute long

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podcast and the bottom line of it was

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hey

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companies and retailers and food service

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providers are finding it easier to hire

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people but instead of paying say 11 in

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average per worker eleven dollars an

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hour they're paying 15 so they're

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finding the workers but they're still

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paying more right and this is where

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Goldman Sachs says

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wage pressures are easing and labor

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shortages have eased significantly

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further and they're not particularly

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worried about a pullback in earnings or

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earnings expectations and which is good

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for potentially avoiding a recession

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however what's the big red flag with a

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big red flag at least one of them there

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are multiple one of them is that wage

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pressures are easing but will likely

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linger throughout 2023 that's because

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markets are still adjusting to the fact

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that yeah we are living under an

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environment of substantially higher

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wages right so everything's still kind

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of adjusting up yeah it's easier to get

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Workers it's just easier to get workers

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at these higher prices right it's like

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all right great you're not paying 11

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bucks an hour anymore you're paying now

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Hefty prices so what other warnings do

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we get well labor shortages waning which

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is great uh the breadth of Labor

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shortages on the basis that they've

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analysis analyzed here has retraced 75

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five percent of the increase from 2019

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that's a fantastic chart you can see

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that depicted here but basically the

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chart runs up to a level of labor

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shortages of 16.5 percent pre-pandemic

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labor shortage references were really

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sitting at closer to about two percent

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and now we're sitting at four point nine

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percent so on a Fibonacci sort of

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retracement you're down

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75

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on uh mentions of Labor shortages great

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but you're still paying higher wages

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what do you have over here in terms of

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commentary Hilton talks about the labor

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market situation has eased a lot the

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health care uh HCA Healthcare says we're

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starting to see more favorable Trends in

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our recruitment function yum brands

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we're seeing stores staffed

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appropriately so this is good right

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because it shows you no wage price

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spiral because it means look we're able

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to hire people but still you're hiring

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people at a higher wage uh you've got

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across Healthcare frankly there there

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are still issues in terms of the labor

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market things are a little bit better

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says Laboratory Corporation so you're

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still seeing some Embers maybe of

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shortages that's normal right we're not

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back at normal mentions of Labor

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shortage just about 4.9 but it's or 4.6

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but it's a huge inflection to

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bullishness right which is great and it

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shows the waning of the wage price

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spiral the wage price spiral by the way

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just to show you how important it is it

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was the one reason I sold my stocks in

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January of 2022. I said we hit a wage

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price spiral which it seems like we're

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running into a wage price spiral which

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what I sold was probably somewhere right

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around over here in this environment of

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like Peak mentions of Labor shortages

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which what happened that ended up

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feeding through the economy for the most

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pain about six months later right when

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you got to about June of 2022 uh that

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and October of 2022 over here on the

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chart those were roughly around the

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times you had the worst sets of

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inflation inflation fears wage price

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spiral fears so this is this was really

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a leading indicator of the pain that was

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coming to the market right you had

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insane inflation fears that turned into

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not inflation fears later now that's

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actually really incredible if you think

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about this as a leading indicator it's a

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leading tool that's telling you as long

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as this keeps going down in six months

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from now you should see even less wage

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pressure more relaxation this is why I'm

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back to like essentially fully invested

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not yoloing margin but like these

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leading indicators to me are like

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grabbing me by the shoulders and

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screaming going the opposite of the

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conditions that you saw in January of

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2022 are what you're seeing now which

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reiterates the lack of that wage price

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spiral fear which is very very important

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so this is a fantastic fantastic leading

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indicator keep in mind still Embers of

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inflation remember I've talked about

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this many times 3M Johnson and Johnson

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Procter Gamble what do they say still

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expecting price increases to feed

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through the economy until about the

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second half of the year so that means

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until June you're still seeing those

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Embers of inflation which is kind of

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probably why we're seeing some hot

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reports here in January in part at least

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but the expectation is those will be

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gone by the second half of the year

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that's what companies are saying and I

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think what companies are saying is very

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important Starbucks talking about no

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labor issues minimal impact from labor

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from Hershey Company here great

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fantastic what do we have over here

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accordingly the absence of progress in

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the other two-thirds of earnings calls

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on wages going down arguably implies

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continued upward pressure on real wages

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this is right just because you are

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seeing a lack of shortages doesn't mean

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the Embers of inflation aren't still

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there like people are available at

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higher prices and this is a warning from

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Goldman Sachs where they say this could

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create second round effects of higher

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inflation in the short term and yes this

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is consistent with the volatility that I

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expect this is why I talk about the Nike

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Swoosh recovery that's going to be very

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volatile Trend up but very volatile I

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believe the second round of the stop it

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Siri I believe the second round effects

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are going to be that feeling of ah still

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seeing some stickiness still some

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stickiness right but the good news is

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the leading indicators are suggesting

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that as we get through those Embers

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they're waning we just want to make sure

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those continue to wane and as this

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Goldman Sachs report

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analyzes here and quotes Staffing firm

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Manpower group we expect wage inflation

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quote to continue to come down but it's

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going to take a while in other words

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slower recovery but it's going in the

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right direction which is great here are

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some talks about wage pressures not

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going away so some of the worst ones

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over here Industrials this aligns with

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what we heard again G

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um Johnson and Johnson 3M uh Procter

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Gamble here's Mohawk Industries which is

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a home furnishings company we see

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inflation impacting our labor costs

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around the world as we start raising

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labor rates they're playing catch-up to

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higher wages so again people are

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available but you're still paying them

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more right

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Manpower group we expect wage inflation

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to come down but it's going to take a

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while Chipotle sees labor costs

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improving we've talked about that as

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well before this report came out hey

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maybe They're copying me no just kidding

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I'm trying to Pat myself on the back but

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I don't actually believe that I'm sure

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they're doing just similar research

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which is great A Marriott International

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the wage pressures have moderated and

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we're seeing a more normalized

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environment great modelies there's a lot

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of talk about diminishing cost inflation

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we don't see that at the moment and it's

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driven largely by energy ingredients and

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labor on the labor side of things uh

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Pulte group says their cost site is

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still elevated labored energy inflation

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by Procter and Gamble McDonald's says

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labor utilities will affect operating

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margin Walgreens says the same problem

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and this is where I think a lot of those

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consumer staple companies are just going

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to take it in the margin which is

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another thing I've consistently been

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talking about on the channel here people

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like to say I flip-flop a lot which is

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fine because I do change my mind a lot

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but I tend to be very consistent when I

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have an investing thesis have been very

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consistent about this investing thesis

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and and I'm looking for reasons to say

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Hey Kevin where where are you wrong and

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so far the only thing I could find is

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Mike Wilson telling us that we're we're

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too high on Mount Everest and we're in

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the danger zone where our oxygen levels

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are going down to the point where we're

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turning delusional uh which the fact

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that he has to come up with that kind of

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analogy suggests that he's kind of

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starting to lack some data to support

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his argument but we'll see uh we'll see

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you know time will tell uh anyway

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Goldman Sachs here predicting uh that

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the unemployment rate will actually stay

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pretty stable throughout most of the

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Year here they don't actually see the

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unemployment rate Rising above 3.6

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throughout the entire year uh 10-year

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treasury note here's a note for Real

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Estate right really expected to say in

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potentially the low four percent range

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the entire year up from where it is now

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around 3 9 which is another red flag for

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Real Estate but you know we talk about

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those red flags for Real Estate pretty

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regularly so this is some important

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things to pay attention to but when it

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comes to wages I think Goldman Sachs is

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right to say that things are looking

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good and the fear about the wage price

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spiral is going away that's probably the

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most important tool that we have to

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suggest maybe that big old second wave

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of a market crash isn't coming and we

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could actually hold on to those moving

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averages that we've broken on like the

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QQQ or other stocks where we've talked

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about previously we finally broke the

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trend of lower highs breaking that Trend

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and breaking above the 200-day moving

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average I think is happening because the

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realization is setting in the market

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that yes things are going to take longer

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it's going to be a slow and hard

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recovery but we're not trending towards

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a wage price spiral to where we have to

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get Paul volckert so this is a

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fantastically bullish report from

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Goldman Sachs it is not one that says

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let's all go YOLO and margin and go

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crazy and then everything's going to be

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great tomorrow

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but I think it is a very clear

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indication uh that that we are seeing uh

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disinflationary effects in the wage

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Market someone named MK here says

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shrinkflation is rigging CPI actually

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CPI already adjusts for shrinkflation

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they adjust per quantity of good so

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shrinkflation is is clearly adjusted for

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in

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um in CPI it looks like now you're

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spamming it why don't you address the

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shrinkflation that's trending on Twitter

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you know look I'm a big fan of using

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Twitter but yeah I go one extra level

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deeper okay do a little research into

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how CPI is calculated and you'll see CPI

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does address that the idea is to to look

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at a similar basket of goods over each

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reporting period and adjust for quantity

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of that good

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which course is the best to buy well I

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appreciate you asking that question I

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think you really want to start right now

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in the market that we're in with the

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zero to millionaire real estate

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investing course however a lot of people

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like the stock start with the stocks and

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psychology of money group so those are

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probably tied for most popular and I

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think what a lot of people do is they

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just bundle those two together would you

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get a special price if you bundle those

15:11

two together but uh I I think fastest

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way to to Big wealth this real estate

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cycle you got to take advantage of it

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obviously stocks and psychology money is

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opportune as well because we're I think

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we're in a fantastic time right now

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so oh thanks John for saying Kevin is

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the best Finance YouTuber man

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I I can't say best but I appreciate I

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really appreciate you saying that thank

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you for that uh so shrinkflation is

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because it's cold outside damn it

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anyway thank

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