The Market Spiral that will FORCE a Recession | Fed.
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oh boy we got a lot to talk about
regarding wage disinflation is it
happening how's it happening where is it
happening and are there red flags let me
tell you up front there are some red
flags we've got to pay attention to
we'll start with some of the good news
but you should stick around to the bad
news because it's important to pay
attention to not just the bullish news
but also the bad so let's get into this
new report out from Goldman Sachs before
I get out get into this report from
Goldman Sachs so I want to quickly
remind you
about what I've been saying over the
last about three months during the
beginning of this earnings cycle which
is Starbucks Chipotle much easier time
finding it much easier to hire folks
less labor turnover and of course we've
heard this before Lyft and Uber massive
new availability of workers like a 37
increase at lift leading to margins
declining actually 37 increase of
workers over at Uber but basically Lyft
complained about an extreme increase in
the availability of workers this is a
good thing right it puts less pressure
on wages which we we know that so going
into this I just want to remind you of
what I've been talking about already and
seeing for the last months here but now
we gotta look at Goldman Sachs do they
reiterate my findings and what red flags
do they give us so take a look at this
so outlook on wages and potential wage
disinflation take a look at this so
right here significant Improvement in
labor availability references in Russell
3000 earnings calls so three thousand uh
companies in earnings calls references
to quote labor shortages or various
different quotes of that have fallen to
the lowest level of the pandemic
recovery so post pandemic we're at the
lowest level of references to shortages
sitting at just 4.9 percent in Q4
earnings calls compared to 16.5 percent
in Q3 2021
our more detailed review of the Dow and
large cap consumer company transcripts
was even more encouraging
two-thirds of companies references
two-thirds of references pointed to
increased labor availability and no
companies cited labor shortages
worsening furthermore several companies
viewed the Staffing situation as back to
normal including Starbucks in Hilton hey
look Starbucks was one that I was
talking about for a while right okay
great so where's the red flag because so
far that sounds good right we'll talk
about exactly that let's keep going here
out of 44 of these calls discussing wage
pressures in Q4 a third of them cited or
expected a sequential moderation so this
is one of the red flags a third of them
basically only 33 percent of them were
like yeah now we think wages are going
to moderate right now that's different
than than when we hear this sort of
bullish attitude at first because the
bullish attitude at first is yay no wage
price spiral which reduces the risk of
the draw of the Federal Reserve and
Jerome Powell needing to rug pull
markets and force the recession to
prevent a 1970s style of runaway
inflation and then we end up getting
Paul volcker right we do not want that
the good news is we are not seeing that
indication no indication of a wage price
spiral at all it's what I've been
talking about for months it's what's
good what Goldman is reiterating here
however only a third of companies are
actually expecting wages to potentially
moderate which would be stay flat or
potentially decline that means most
companies are actually still that's 67
percent of companies are still
experiencing wage pressures but maybe
not labor shortages that means you're
hiring more people you're getting more
availability but you are employing
people at higher prices than you did
maybe pre-pandemic right for example The
Wall Street Journal had a podcast this
morning it was about a 20-minute long
podcast and the bottom line of it was
hey
companies and retailers and food service
providers are finding it easier to hire
people but instead of paying say 11 in
average per worker eleven dollars an
hour they're paying 15 so they're
finding the workers but they're still
paying more right and this is where
Goldman Sachs says
wage pressures are easing and labor
shortages have eased significantly
further and they're not particularly
worried about a pullback in earnings or
earnings expectations and which is good
for potentially avoiding a recession
however what's the big red flag with a
big red flag at least one of them there
are multiple one of them is that wage
pressures are easing but will likely
linger throughout 2023 that's because
markets are still adjusting to the fact
that yeah we are living under an
environment of substantially higher
wages right so everything's still kind
of adjusting up yeah it's easier to get
Workers it's just easier to get workers
at these higher prices right it's like
all right great you're not paying 11
bucks an hour anymore you're paying now
Hefty prices so what other warnings do
we get well labor shortages waning which
is great uh the breadth of Labor
shortages on the basis that they've
analysis analyzed here has retraced 75
five percent of the increase from 2019
that's a fantastic chart you can see
that depicted here but basically the
chart runs up to a level of labor
shortages of 16.5 percent pre-pandemic
labor shortage references were really
sitting at closer to about two percent
and now we're sitting at four point nine
percent so on a Fibonacci sort of
retracement you're down
75
on uh mentions of Labor shortages great
but you're still paying higher wages
what do you have over here in terms of
commentary Hilton talks about the labor
market situation has eased a lot the
health care uh HCA Healthcare says we're
starting to see more favorable Trends in
our recruitment function yum brands
we're seeing stores staffed
appropriately so this is good right
because it shows you no wage price
spiral because it means look we're able
to hire people but still you're hiring
people at a higher wage uh you've got
across Healthcare frankly there there
are still issues in terms of the labor
market things are a little bit better
says Laboratory Corporation so you're
still seeing some Embers maybe of
shortages that's normal right we're not
back at normal mentions of Labor
shortage just about 4.9 but it's or 4.6
but it's a huge inflection to
bullishness right which is great and it
shows the waning of the wage price
spiral the wage price spiral by the way
just to show you how important it is it
was the one reason I sold my stocks in
January of 2022. I said we hit a wage
price spiral which it seems like we're
running into a wage price spiral which
what I sold was probably somewhere right
around over here in this environment of
like Peak mentions of Labor shortages
which what happened that ended up
feeding through the economy for the most
pain about six months later right when
you got to about June of 2022 uh that
and October of 2022 over here on the
chart those were roughly around the
times you had the worst sets of
inflation inflation fears wage price
spiral fears so this is this was really
a leading indicator of the pain that was
coming to the market right you had
insane inflation fears that turned into
not inflation fears later now that's
actually really incredible if you think
about this as a leading indicator it's a
leading tool that's telling you as long
as this keeps going down in six months
from now you should see even less wage
pressure more relaxation this is why I'm
back to like essentially fully invested
not yoloing margin but like these
leading indicators to me are like
grabbing me by the shoulders and
screaming going the opposite of the
conditions that you saw in January of
2022 are what you're seeing now which
reiterates the lack of that wage price
spiral fear which is very very important
so this is a fantastic fantastic leading
indicator keep in mind still Embers of
inflation remember I've talked about
this many times 3M Johnson and Johnson
Procter Gamble what do they say still
expecting price increases to feed
through the economy until about the
second half of the year so that means
until June you're still seeing those
Embers of inflation which is kind of
probably why we're seeing some hot
reports here in January in part at least
but the expectation is those will be
gone by the second half of the year
that's what companies are saying and I
think what companies are saying is very
important Starbucks talking about no
labor issues minimal impact from labor
from Hershey Company here great
fantastic what do we have over here
accordingly the absence of progress in
the other two-thirds of earnings calls
on wages going down arguably implies
continued upward pressure on real wages
this is right just because you are
seeing a lack of shortages doesn't mean
the Embers of inflation aren't still
there like people are available at
higher prices and this is a warning from
Goldman Sachs where they say this could
create second round effects of higher
inflation in the short term and yes this
is consistent with the volatility that I
expect this is why I talk about the Nike
Swoosh recovery that's going to be very
volatile Trend up but very volatile I
believe the second round of the stop it
Siri I believe the second round effects
are going to be that feeling of ah still
seeing some stickiness still some
stickiness right but the good news is
the leading indicators are suggesting
that as we get through those Embers
they're waning we just want to make sure
those continue to wane and as this
Goldman Sachs report
analyzes here and quotes Staffing firm
Manpower group we expect wage inflation
quote to continue to come down but it's
going to take a while in other words
slower recovery but it's going in the
right direction which is great here are
some talks about wage pressures not
going away so some of the worst ones
over here Industrials this aligns with
what we heard again G
um Johnson and Johnson 3M uh Procter
Gamble here's Mohawk Industries which is
a home furnishings company we see
inflation impacting our labor costs
around the world as we start raising
labor rates they're playing catch-up to
higher wages so again people are
available but you're still paying them
more right
Manpower group we expect wage inflation
to come down but it's going to take a
while Chipotle sees labor costs
improving we've talked about that as
well before this report came out hey
maybe They're copying me no just kidding
I'm trying to Pat myself on the back but
I don't actually believe that I'm sure
they're doing just similar research
which is great A Marriott International
the wage pressures have moderated and
we're seeing a more normalized
environment great modelies there's a lot
of talk about diminishing cost inflation
we don't see that at the moment and it's
driven largely by energy ingredients and
labor on the labor side of things uh
Pulte group says their cost site is
still elevated labored energy inflation
by Procter and Gamble McDonald's says
labor utilities will affect operating
margin Walgreens says the same problem
and this is where I think a lot of those
consumer staple companies are just going
to take it in the margin which is
another thing I've consistently been
talking about on the channel here people
like to say I flip-flop a lot which is
fine because I do change my mind a lot
but I tend to be very consistent when I
have an investing thesis have been very
consistent about this investing thesis
and and I'm looking for reasons to say
Hey Kevin where where are you wrong and
so far the only thing I could find is
Mike Wilson telling us that we're we're
too high on Mount Everest and we're in
the danger zone where our oxygen levels
are going down to the point where we're
turning delusional uh which the fact
that he has to come up with that kind of
analogy suggests that he's kind of
starting to lack some data to support
his argument but we'll see uh we'll see
you know time will tell uh anyway
Goldman Sachs here predicting uh that
the unemployment rate will actually stay
pretty stable throughout most of the
Year here they don't actually see the
unemployment rate Rising above 3.6
throughout the entire year uh 10-year
treasury note here's a note for Real
Estate right really expected to say in
potentially the low four percent range
the entire year up from where it is now
around 3 9 which is another red flag for
Real Estate but you know we talk about
those red flags for Real Estate pretty
regularly so this is some important
things to pay attention to but when it
comes to wages I think Goldman Sachs is
right to say that things are looking
good and the fear about the wage price
spiral is going away that's probably the
most important tool that we have to
suggest maybe that big old second wave
of a market crash isn't coming and we
could actually hold on to those moving
averages that we've broken on like the
QQQ or other stocks where we've talked
about previously we finally broke the
trend of lower highs breaking that Trend
and breaking above the 200-day moving
average I think is happening because the
realization is setting in the market
that yes things are going to take longer
it's going to be a slow and hard
recovery but we're not trending towards
a wage price spiral to where we have to
get Paul volckert so this is a
fantastically bullish report from
Goldman Sachs it is not one that says
let's all go YOLO and margin and go
crazy and then everything's going to be
great tomorrow
but I think it is a very clear
indication uh that that we are seeing uh
disinflationary effects in the wage
Market someone named MK here says
shrinkflation is rigging CPI actually
CPI already adjusts for shrinkflation
they adjust per quantity of good so
shrinkflation is is clearly adjusted for
in
um in CPI it looks like now you're
spamming it why don't you address the
shrinkflation that's trending on Twitter
you know look I'm a big fan of using
Twitter but yeah I go one extra level
deeper okay do a little research into
how CPI is calculated and you'll see CPI
does address that the idea is to to look
at a similar basket of goods over each
reporting period and adjust for quantity
of that good
which course is the best to buy well I
appreciate you asking that question I
think you really want to start right now
in the market that we're in with the
zero to millionaire real estate
investing course however a lot of people
like the stock start with the stocks and
psychology of money group so those are
probably tied for most popular and I
think what a lot of people do is they
just bundle those two together would you
get a special price if you bundle those
two together but uh I I think fastest
way to to Big wealth this real estate
cycle you got to take advantage of it
obviously stocks and psychology money is
opportune as well because we're I think
we're in a fantastic time right now
so oh thanks John for saying Kevin is
the best Finance YouTuber man
I I can't say best but I appreciate I
really appreciate you saying that thank
you for that uh so shrinkflation is
because it's cold outside damn it
anyway thank
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