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When Your Worldview Starts to Crumble: a Chance to Wake Up | Br. Phap Linh (Br. Spirit)

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good morning dear s today is the 10th of

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December in the year 2023 we are in the

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full moon meditation Hall in New Hamlet

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Plum

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Village and we are uh maybe more than

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halfway through our Reigns Retreat 2023

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2024 with the theme of

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um Buddhist

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ethics or Global Ethics how do

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we

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uh what kind of offering can we make to

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the world towards a global

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ethic

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um so some of you have been following

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Tai's uh talks

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every uh

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Wednesday and maybe some of you have not

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so I'll do a little bit of

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review uh

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with what we've been what we've been

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building up over the last few

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weeks and

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um I

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uh yeah some some of you who know me you

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might be a little bit

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worried because I have a a bad

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reputation for um giving talks that are

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very

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long so uh I'm going to do my best not

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to go on too long I it's quite hard to

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see the clock from here so you might you

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might have to help

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me

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uh so why do we need

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ethics right because we we want to do

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the right thing we don't want to do the

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wrong

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thing and it turns out that that's not

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very

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easy it should be easy maybe we think it

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should be easy I I know what the right

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thing to do is

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mostly but maybe sometimes we don't know

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exactly it's not so

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easy um it feels maybe as if we should

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be able to

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um to know intuitively just to feel in

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every moment what is right what is wrong

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to make decisions based on

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that but I

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just I just want to point out that

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um if we look at the state of the world

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now it seems that

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uh not everything is going well right

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there is some suffering going

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on and so if ethic was so

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easy you know maybe we would be in a

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better

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situation so in a way there's plenty of

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evidence that shows us that it's not

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that easy to do the right

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thing I remember one time Tai shared a g

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with

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us um that kind of sums up the whole of

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the Buddhist

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teaching and if I remember rightly it

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goes something like this the good things

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do them

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the bad

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things don't do

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them purify your mind this is the

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teaching of all

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Buddhists seems so

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straightforward the good things yeah

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just do them bad things don't do

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them so why is it so

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hard because we don't always

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know uh what the good things are and we

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don't always know what the bad things

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are so we need a system of Ethics to try

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to help us figure

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out how to decide how to

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distinguish the good from The Bad The

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Helpful from the

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harmful and um even if we know sometimes

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what the good things

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are and what the bad things are

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sometimes we still do the bad things

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even though we know or the good thing we

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we struggle to do it even though we know

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so

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why because we have

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habits we have very strong

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habits and we have blind

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spots we have a kind of uh ignorance

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about

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ourselves so hopefully in the course of

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uh today's session we can look a little

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bit more

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into the nature of those blind

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spots um and help each other to see

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them all right so this is

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review so we have uh normative

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ethics

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and hopefully by now everybody knows

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what that refers to um but basically

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it's it's the the rules what's written

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down the precepts the mindfulness

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trainings and so on what can be written

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down and

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systematized um but and we know we're

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very lucky you know Tai offered us a

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beautiful set of uh mindfulness

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trainings the five mindfulness trainings

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the 14 mindfulness trainings

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they're very very

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good

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um but they're not perfect and we know

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that there are some situations where

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it's hard to tell uh what we should do

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how to behave how to decide um so we

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have applied

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ethics and that is May maybe we can say

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that that is

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um uh the willingness to look at the

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difficult

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cases and to um make

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exceptions and to try to decide Case by

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case so that means that we are going to

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uh make a determined effort to look at

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the cases that are hard to decide and

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then we want to have a way to figure out

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in those cases that are hard to decide

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what

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uh sort of how to decide how to think

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about those difficult cases so in the

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course of the last few weeks T has been

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offering us um these

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wonderful principles or pairs of

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principles um to help us figure

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out these difficult cases so I'm not

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going to mention all of them but

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um we start with

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uh pain and pleasure so in principle we

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know that we want to do things that

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reduce harm suffering pain and increase

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well-being and

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happiness so it should be should be

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fairly

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straightforward this is

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cor and

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lack and then

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um but as T has given many examples

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we

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we know that there are some kinds of um

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suffering that are actually beneficial

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for us that we need some suffering to

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learn to grow uh and to develop our

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compassion so it's not enough just to

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decide on the basis of pain and pleasure

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we need to ask ourselves is it

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beneficial or

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unbeneficial

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no

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hi but how do we even know if it's

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beneficial or unbeneficial there are

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times we might think something is

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beneficial um out of

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uh uh out of

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self-interest but we might not have a

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clear mind we might not have the clarity

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to even decide or we might be yeah we

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might be being selfish

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unconsciously so we need to know whether

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we are

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deluded or

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awake

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so in a sense this

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uh this pair of principles

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informs this pair of principles we know

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that we we are not going to be able to

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make a good decision about whether

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something is beneficial or unbeneficial

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for example if we're

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angry or if we're very

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upset we know in that moment is probably

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not the best time to try to determine

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what is beneficial and what is

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unbeneficial we need to take care of

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that emotion

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first we want to be clear

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we want to have Clarity we know that we

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need Clarity in order to determine

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what's beneficial or

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unbeneficial uh and to

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determine what leads ultimately to

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well-being or to Ill

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beinging and um we have another

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pair which is to

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open or to Bar the

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way

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which means that

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um we know that in principle this system

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cannot be perfect we know that there

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will be some exceptions to the rule we

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need we know that we need some

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flexibility uh and that in some

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situations we will need to uh um

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adapt the rule is not going to cover

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every possible

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circumstance so it's a kind of uh

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there's a kind of humility in this

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there's a humility about the status of a

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normative ethic there's a humility even

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about language about the ability our

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ability to account for every

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possibility in a in a written system so

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we know that language is a map of

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reality right it's it's a we can uh sort

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of make an attempt to describe the

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nature of reality in

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language but we also know that language

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is not the reality right the name is not

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the thing if I say apple that's not a

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real

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apple right it's just a sign that points

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towards

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an

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experience that you may or may not have

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had if you've never eaten a kiwi and I

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say

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kiwi it's not much use to

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you I could even describe I could use a

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lot of language I could write a whole

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book about you know a kiwi it's like a

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little bit sour it's kind of sweet it's

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green it's

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juicy little bit furry on the outside

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and you're like what what is this thing

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but it's not Apple it's not really an

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orange it's nothing like a

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banana I could go on and on and on for

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days and it would be essentially

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useless maybe a little bit helpful but I

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can't describe to you the experience of

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kiwi no matter how many words I use you

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have to

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bite you have to see for

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yourself so we know that language is

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limited

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and um so we know that anything we write

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down any system of rules no matter how

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careful we are no matter how much effort

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we make is going to be limited it won't

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account for every possibility and we

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recognize that so we recognize that

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there are some situations where we will

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have to uh be flexible to

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adjust

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um and then I added uh to

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uphold

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and to

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break

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G

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found

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so

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um in a sense this this is uh we apply

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this pair of principles as a first

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approximation so we know that

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um the simplest thing that we can do is

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to try to keep the precept right so we

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have the precept we we try to keep it

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whole we try not to break

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it but when we apply all of the other

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pairs of principles we may find that in

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some rare situ situations to keep the

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precept in the letter is actually to

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break the precept in the spirit so Ty

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gave the example that you know if in a

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war

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situation uh there is a

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somebody uh trying to uh kill somebody

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else and they they've hidden themselves

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and you see where they where that person

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is hidden and the uh assassin comes and

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asks you where they are

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right so in principle we don't lie so

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our our commitment is to not

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lie so we want to tell the truth so to

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keep the precept in that situation is to

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say oh yes they're hidden over

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there but that's pretty obvious that at

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a deeper level we are breaking a more

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important precept which is to protect

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life so in fact in order to keep the

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precept we need to break the precept we

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need to lie in some

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situations so

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um these these pairs of principles and

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there's a few others that T's introduced

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give us a kind of

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uh a way to

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um a way to work with the difficult

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cases the cases that the rule the

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written rule doesn't completely account

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for but even that even these pairs of

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principles although they are very very

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helpful they're not quite enough so we

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also need meta

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ethics and this is maybe

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where some people's eyes glaze

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over and they're kind of like do we

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really need to do we really need meta

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ethics what the heck is that and meta

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ethics has different branches so it

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includes

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Antics and

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epistemology

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oops and

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ontology

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um and so there's different systems of

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meta ethics but uh we we have our meta

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ethics and and Tai uh is trying to help

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us to see what is our meta

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ethics

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um so in in Buddhist teaching we have a

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we have semantics epistemology and

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ontology as well so semantics we've

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already looked at a little bit this

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morning because in a sense it's the um

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the UN the understanding of the status

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of language

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so what do we um how much trust do we

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have in language to describe the true

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nature of

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reality and um in Buddhist terms maybe

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not

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much so we have What's called the

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conventional

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designation

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which is

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um the recognition that the the name of

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a thing is not the thing we've already

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looked at that a little bit with the

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Apple

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um and uh so we are a little bit uh wary

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about language about how useful it is

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and we're cautious that it might it

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might lead

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us in terms of epistemology we

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um there's a lot of uh Buddhist

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epistemology I'm not going to go too

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much into it right now but we have

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um in a sense it's it's how do we uh

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determine what is knowable and what is

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not

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knowable what kind of deduction can we

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rely on

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can we use inference and deduction or is

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there such a thing as direct insight

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into the nature of a

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thing

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um and

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uh and then we

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have yeah so this is

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the the

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knowable and the not

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knowable

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it's like what is the what is the status

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of our

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knowledge how much do we rely

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on on knowing even how much do we put

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our faith in uh in

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knowledge and then in terms of

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ontology in a sense ontology could refer

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to uh our worldview what do we believe

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about the nature of

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reality um and how do we determine the

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nature of

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reality so the

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simplest uh thing that we could point to

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here is is the notion of Right

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View we are uh

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instructed to uh to cultivate Right View

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and I heard recently that one of uh one

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of my brothers shared on the monastic

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day that um after how many years of

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practice 10 or 12 years that uh he

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doesn't know what Right View is and he

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doesn't know if he has it or not and he

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doesn't know how to get

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it so maybe it's worth looking at

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because it seems to be quite

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important um and how would we know if we

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had

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it and what what constitutes Right

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View so when we take these three things

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together the written system of Ethics

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the precepts the mindfulness trainings

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the applied ethics which is the

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investigation of you know particular

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cases difficult

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cases and the way of

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applying these pairs of principles right

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because these pairs of principles on

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their own if they're not applied

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skillfully they don't they could

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actually do more harm than good right so

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the it's it's not enough uh just to have

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a system we also need to have some kind

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of uh

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wisdom we need to have this right view

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whatever it is and because maybe we

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don't have it or we don't have it

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completely we need a way to cultivate it

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so in a sense if we ask what is our meta

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ethics we could say well our meta ethics

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is you know I think Ty said it's kind of

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summed up by the HRA and so we could say

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well it's the

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uh

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uh uh the view that is free from the

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ideas of being and

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non-being birth and

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death uh and so on so we have all of

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these pairs of principles pairs of uh

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opposites in the heart sura that we

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train to free ourselves

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from

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um but again even the heart Sutra if you

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just read it over and over again it

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won't

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necessarily take you to the other Shore

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somehow we need to have a a way to

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practice it we need to have a way to

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cultivate that Insight

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together

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um so all of these all of these things

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function together any any one of these

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on their own is not enough they all rely

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on each

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other

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so what is it uh that prevents us from

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having Right

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View I spoke right at the beginning

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about um our blind

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spots and our

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habits to me it's interesting to ask

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myself how do

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I how do I

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know what my world view

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is and how do I

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know what my blind spots

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are the point about blind spots is you

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can't see them

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right it's kind of obvious but so how do

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I see them if I can't see

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them well that's where you lot come in

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it's very helpful having other people so

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I asked myself this and I it seemed to

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me that the only real time I see my

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blind spots is when I make other people

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suffer when I make other people suffer I

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don't necessarily see my blind

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spots but I could see my blind

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spot I have a

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chance if I have enough humility in that

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moment to

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pause and to ask

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myself

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oh what did I what did I do why why is

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it that I made the other person

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suffer if I'm not very curious then

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maybe my first response is to say oh

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well that's their problem

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they have a wrong

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perception they don't understand you

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know I didn't I didn't mean to make them

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suffer or maybe that's their

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karma this is a Buddhist uh Buddhist

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bypassing they need to suffer it's good

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for

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them see be

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careful be careful with this not

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necessarily

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helpful so I need to have a little bit

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of humidity and ask myself well am I

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sure that

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um am I sure that I see myself

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clearly what if there's something that I

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haven't seen so in a way it's the first

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warning flag

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uhoh something I've done or said seems

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to have caused some Ripple in the world

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of discomfort of Mones

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of uh of suffering maybe I should check

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maybe I can use this as a

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mirror when I ask myself about my

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worldview worldview is very interesting

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because I think most of

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us most of the

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time don't realize that we even have a

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world

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viw because there is a kind of uh

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assumption that what we see is the

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world right that we are in touch with

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reality and that

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is the nature of things and you know

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that that our perception is essentially

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accurate but the Buddha comes along and

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says no you know most of your

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perceptions are wrong

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perceptions and we go yes yes yes look

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at all these people with wrong

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perceptions

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I can see that they have wrong

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perceptions I don't know about

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them so when when do I get to see my

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worldview or when do we collectively get

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to see our worldview in a sense I'm

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putting it a little bit in the same

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category as your blind

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spots but it's a collective blind

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spot so as long as things are

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going more or less

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okay as long as our culture is

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relatively

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unchallenged our world viiew is

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essentially

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invisible the time that it becomes

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visible

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is when it starts to

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break when things start to go wrong

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or when it's

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challenged so it can be just by

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um in the course of history as different

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cultures mix our worldviews are

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challenged because suddenly we are

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confronted with people who have a very

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different

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worldview and again we have an

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opportunity in that moment to see oh I

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actually have a

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worldview right but that's only one

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possible reaction the other possible

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reaction is look at all these people

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they're so wrong they don't agree with

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me they are bad and evil I Must Destroy

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them and we've had that reaction many

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times we still

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do but if we take it as an

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opportunity it may allow us

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to to actually see something that we

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couldn't see

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before so

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um maybe take a slightly less charged

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example we can look at um scientific

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progress so

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um science

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uh formulates

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theories

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hypotheses which we then translate into

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experiments we do the

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experiments um we make a prediction we

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do the experiment and we test the

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prediction right was the prediction

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accurate or

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inaccurate so the theory provides the

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prediction and then we test the

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prediction with an

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experiment and um if the theory is good

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it makes good predictions all the

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experiments go

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well we we and we keep making more

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experiments until at a certain point we

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make an experiment we make a prediction

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we test it and uh theed ition

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fails

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oh what

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happened maybe I should do the

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experiment again

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check maybe I made a mistake in my

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measurement maybe I need to redo my

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calculations based on the

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theory and it goes wrong again I make

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another wrong prediction so again I am

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faced with a choice I could

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say well it's obviously not a very

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important

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experiment let's not worry about that

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let's focus on all the experiments that

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make nice predictions and they're all

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good we're going to that must be a

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special case not very

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important and we've done that many many

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times and we have

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refused to look at the evidence which is

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in front of

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us um for example we had a theory that

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uh the Earth was the center of the

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universe right and the the sun went

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around the earth and all the other

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planets too and and we had a very nice

31:37

Theory called telic epicycles it's

31:41

actually quite complicated to account

31:44

for the movements of the planets and the

31:46

Sun but you can do it if you try really

31:49

hard and you kind of squint and you

31:55

know but then there started to be am

31:58

mounting uh accumulation of evidence

32:00

that showed other things for examples

32:04

for example that the moons of Jupiter

32:07

were orbiting

32:09

Jupiter not

32:13

us and the first thing that we did was

32:15

to deny the evidence and say no no no no

32:17

no

32:19

no that must be wrong that's not

32:21

happening that's not happening because

32:23

the theory is right the theory is good

32:26

everybody agrees

32:27

please don't you know don't rock the

32:31

boat these are being very

32:36

inconvenient um but if we uh

32:42

accept to question the theory then we

32:45

have a chance to

32:47

see the

32:50

Paradigm which which is the kind of

32:53

hidden context for that theory

32:58

the world viw that

33:01

underlies the way that theory is

33:06

constructed so

33:09

um the point I'm making here is that we

33:12

only see the Paradigm when it starts to

33:15

fail when it starts to break so in the

33:18

present

33:20

moment one of the

33:23

uh paradigms perhaps that we

33:27

live

33:30

within is that

33:34

um growth economic growth is

33:38

good that's a kind of uh

33:42

Paradigm but we could look at the

33:44

evidence and say

33:48

well we seem to

33:50

be

33:52

uh having an increasing uh gap between

33:56

the very wealthy and and the very

34:00

poor we seem to be

34:03

destroying uh our environment at a rapid

34:06

rate we seem to be destroying

34:11

um many different species uh many

34:14

different species are at risk of

34:17

Extinction in the course of our

34:19

lifetimes uh the last 40 50 60 years the

34:24

population of wild animals on our

34:26

average has reduced by

34:30

2/3 it's an

34:32

absolutely

34:33

horrendous

34:36

number it would be much more convenient

34:39

and comfortable just

34:40

to ignore

34:43

that it's profoundly uncomfortable to

34:46

realize that the way that we are

34:50

living the Privileges that we enjoy the

34:53

comfort that we enjoy the fact that we

34:56

get to to travel go on a holiday have

35:00

more than one house more than one

35:04

car that these our our way our very way

35:07

of

35:08

life may actually be destroying the

35:11

possibility of life for ourselves and

35:15

for perhaps

35:20

everyone but the evidence is

35:22

mounting that there's a

35:25

problem right that we're destroying the

35:29

uh the fabric of Life on this planet so

35:32

again we have an

35:33

opportunity and perhaps the opportunity

35:35

is to

35:37

recognize the kind of worldview the kind

35:40

of Paradigm that has given rise to this

35:44

way of

35:45

life that until it causes problems it's

35:48

not challenged we don't see it it

35:50

remains hidden like our blind

35:55

spots but when it starts to break and it

35:57

is breaking

36:00

now I think we we feel the

36:03

Brokenness in

36:07

ourselves when we start to allow

36:10

ourselves to feel that

36:12

pain then we we have an opportunity to

36:15

ask

36:17

ourselves what is this uh worldview that

36:22

has given rise to this situation what is

36:24

this way of thinking where

36:27

perceiving could

36:31

it could it change could there be

36:34

another worldview another way of seeing

36:36

another way of understanding that would

36:38

do that would give rise to less harm

36:41

less

36:45

damage let's enjoy the sound of the bell

36:48

and don't worry if it's not

36:52

clear uh because we're going to we're

36:55

going to go over this a few times in in

36:56

a few different ways and I hope yeah by

36:59

the end of the session will be a little

37:01

bit clearer what I'm getting

37:05

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37:17

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37:25

at

37:34

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37:47

[Music]

37:53

there's

37:54

a passage in the the

37:59

Bible in the um Gospel of

38:05

Luke um which tells the story of when

38:08

Jesus was on the cross he was being

38:12

crucified and

38:15

um the

38:17

soldiers were

38:20

uh uh had taken all his

38:22

clothes and were casting lots to uh to

38:26

who would get to keep his clothes and

38:28

and sell them so he's already on the

38:33

cross and he

38:36

says forgive them

38:39

Father for they know not what they

38:44

do forgive

38:46

them for they know not what they

38:53

do so what does that

38:55

mean

39:42

it's first of all it's quite

39:45

extraordinary that he's on the cross

39:48

he's been whipped and beaten and uh

39:52

humiliated

39:54

and um

39:57

tried unjustly and now he's essentially

40:00

being tortured he knows he's going to

40:04

die and yet in that moment he doesn't

40:07

think of himself he thinks of these

40:10

soldiers who are the ones who have just

40:12

nailed him to the

40:14

cross and his thought is not of blame or

40:17

hatred but it's of

40:20

forgiveness it's quite

40:22

extraordinary in itself but what does it

40:25

mean because at first

40:30

it kind of seems obvious but then the

40:32

more you look at it it's not so obvious

40:34

they know not what they do why not they

40:38

do know they they nailed him to the

40:40

Cross they know exactly what they did so

40:43

what does he mean he doesn't mean

40:47

that you know literally they don't know

40:50

what they

40:51

did let's say that uh you're a

40:55

soldier and and um you have to press the

40:58

bomb you press the button that drops a

41:02

bomb and you know that

41:05

uh civilians will be killed

41:13

children right we know there are people

41:15

in that situation right now and they

41:18

still press the button that drops the

41:23

bomb do they not know

41:27

what they're

41:29

doing of course they know they know

41:31

they're pressing the the button they

41:32

know what's going to happen they know

41:33

that

41:36

a a bomb will be or a missile will be

41:38

launched they know that an explosion

41:40

will happen they know that people will

41:42

be killed they know that civilians will

41:43

be

41:46

killed so what does it

41:50

mean CU those soldiers who put Jesus on

41:53

the cross crucified

41:55

him

41:58

and they knew what they were

42:00

doing but they were just following

42:02

orders right they didn't really have a

42:03

choice as far as they

42:06

knew uh Jesus had been tried along with

42:09

the two other criminals who were beside

42:13

him you know they were just just another

42:19

day but the implication here is

42:25

that

42:29

if they

42:32

knew if they really knew what they were

42:36

doing they wouldn't do

42:40

it so what is

42:43

it what what would they have to

42:46

know in order to not

42:49

do what they

42:53

did what would you have to know

42:57

in order to not press the

43:01

button what would you have to know in

43:03

order to

43:06

disobey the

43:08

order in order to take

43:12

responsibility and in order

43:14

to probably lose your job or be

43:20

punished may be

43:23

worse there's a very beautiful film

43:26

um called a hidden Life by Terrence

43:30

Malik the director Terrence Malik and it

43:32

tells the story of a Catholic uh

43:36

Pastor Austrian who lived in a remote

43:40

Village in the Alps at the time of the

43:42

second world

43:44

war and

43:46

um his name was

43:52

France apologies for my pronunciation if

43:54

you're German or Austrian

43:57

uh

43:58

France yeah that's right

44:02

um so the film is about his story and

44:05

it's a true

44:07

story uh during the second world war

44:09

there was uh all men were conscripted

44:12

into the army and one of the things they

44:13

had to do was um pledge their allegiance

44:18

to Adolf

44:19

Hitler they had to um you know declare

44:25

their uh

44:27

their

44:28

uh yeah their

44:31

allegiance and he

44:36

refused he said no I won't I won't do

44:42

that and um it was very

44:48

inconvenient and all the people in the

44:50

village said uh oh come on just you know

44:55

just say it you don't have to mean

44:58

it right it doesn't mean like you just

45:00

say it just you know it's going to make

45:01

a mess it's going to be very

45:05

awkward

45:06

um so just say it just get it over with

45:11

it's fine but he said no I I won't do

45:19

it I don't

45:24

uh I don't feel

45:26

that what is happening is in accord with

45:29

my deep

45:31

values this is not in accord with

45:34

uh with my commitment to

45:38

love to the teachings of

45:41

Christianity I feel like my ethics are

45:43

being compromised and I won't do

45:46

it and the case

45:49

escalated so um first it went to the

45:52

local Village

45:54

Authority

45:56

and um the mayor it made everybody in

45:59

the village very uncomfortable because

46:01

of course everybody else had done

46:05

it whether they believed it or not but

46:08

they had all done

46:10

it you know and then the Jews were

46:14

expelled disappeared

46:19

graded the men were conscripted had to

46:21

go to the Army he was taken he was

46:24

conscripted he put in put on the UN form

46:26

and then when they lined them all up in

46:27

the barracks and they had to pledge

46:30

allegiance and he said no I won't do

46:32

it but then it's very awward for the

46:34

commander because here's this man he

46:37

hasn't done the thing so now you have to

46:39

imprison him you have to have a trial

46:42

you have to have a court

46:44

Marshal and every time somebody would

46:46

try to convince him the bishop tried to

46:48

convince him different friends would

46:51

come and say come on just don't be so uh

46:55

rigid

46:57

think of your

46:59

family you're making it so difficult for

47:01

them what if you get thrown in prison

47:04

and they don't see you anymore your two

47:06

daughters your

47:08

wife do it for

47:10

them but he said no and he said no I'm

47:13

saying no for

47:17

them and the case escalated and

47:20

escalated and

47:22

escalated and eventually he was executed

47:27

and he was given so many

47:30

opportunities to back

47:32

down and he knew exactly what was

47:35

happening but he never backed

47:40

down and the final uh you know the

47:43

general who was head of the Court

47:45

Marshal the

47:47

tribunal said but look this achieves

47:52

nothing your act of resistance is

47:56

useless it's invisible you will die in

48:00

the

48:01

dark nobody will

48:04

see it won't make any

48:10

difference and

48:12

still he refused to

48:15

compromise his

48:21

principles and U at the end of the film

48:24

there's a quote from uh George Elliot

48:26

from the book Middle March it's very

48:29

beautiful I'd like to read it to

48:31

you it goes like this for the growing

48:35

good of the

48:39

world is partly dependent on

48:42

unhistoric

48:45

acts the growing good of the world I

48:48

hope the good is growing in the world is

48:52

partly dependent on unhistoric Acts

48:56

it means the things that we don't see

48:58

that we don't read

49:00

about and that things are not so ill

49:04

with you and me as they might have

49:07

been is half owing to the number who

49:11

lived Faithfully a hidden

49:16

life and rest in unvisited

49:21

tombs the English is a little bit it's

49:24

like old little bit Old English I hope

49:27

hope you can understand is it clear do I

49:29

need to translate it one more

49:32

time for the growing good of the world

49:37

is partly dependent on

49:39

unhistoric

49:42

acts and that things are not so

49:45

ill with you and me as they might have

49:48

been things are not as bad as they could

49:51

have

49:52

been right so we imagine things could be

49:54

worse than then this right actually is

49:57

pretty good right now this not so

50:01

bad and how come it's this

50:05

good is it because of the big dramatic

50:09

acts the things that we read about in

50:12

history books or is it lots and lots and

50:14

lots and lots of tiny hidden actions

50:17

that we will never know

50:21

about that's what this is pointing to

50:24

that things are not so ill

50:26

with you and me as they might have been

50:28

is half owing to the number the people

50:32

who lived Faithfully a hidden

50:35

life and rest in unvisited tombs

50:39

unvisited Graves it means no nobody reme

50:42

remembers them nobody remembers their

50:44

name but what they did

50:47

mattered and it it created this

50:52

tapestry of

50:54

good

50:58

and the interesting thing about this act

51:02

is that actually throughout the whole

51:03

film as you are learning about this

51:05

story what you realize is

51:07

that in fact his act was not

51:11

forgotten the story was told it's being

51:14

told

51:19

now that's not why he did

51:22

it but it was much more powerful than

51:25

every everybody around him thought

51:27

everybody around him said this will be

51:29

erased it will make no difference you

51:32

will be executed and

51:34

forgotten you are

51:39

powerless but he knew he had a different

51:41

kind of power that his Integrity had

51:51

power

51:54

so what what did he

51:57

know that allowed

52:00

him to

52:02

resist even

52:05

until

52:06

death to pay that

52:16

price and if we think about um the

52:19

situation of the world

52:24

now right now uh the cop is happening in

52:28

um in the United Arab

52:33

Emirates um and one of the things that's

52:37

being decided that's being discussed is

52:40

whether or not to

52:42

agree on the language about uh phasing

52:46

out fossil fuels so so far the fossil

52:49

fuel Lobby has been successful in all of

52:52

the previous cops until now

52:55

fossil fuels in fact have not even been

52:59

mentioned it's quite

53:03

remarkable so what they are happy for us

53:06

to put in the agreements is to talk

53:08

about the

53:09

emissions right carbon

53:12

dioxide so they say yes yes we should

53:14

reduce

53:17

emissions but they are very

53:19

resistant to

53:21

including the cause of those emissions

53:24

which is fossil

53:26

fuels they don't want us to look at that

53:29

and they want us to instead look at uh

53:32

you know how we can draw down carbon

53:34

from the atmosphere

53:36

with essentially unproven carbon capture

53:43

Technologies for the moment I think uh

53:45

the best carbon capture mechanical

53:48

carbon capture that we have um can uh

53:52

over the course of a Year's operation I

53:54

think it can absorb absorb um the last

53:58

uh 12

54:00

seconds of greenhouse gas

54:04

emissions

54:06

so not quite sure that that one's going

54:08

to work but that's what the fossil fuel

54:11

industry would like us to to

54:13

believe because then it allows us to

54:15

keep burning more fossil fuels and in

54:18

fact there's a letter that was just

54:19

leaked uh recently by OPEC OPEC is the

54:24

uh you know sort of group of oil

54:27

producing

54:29

Nations um it's a cartel essentially and

54:33

uh they were writing to all of their

54:36

member

54:38

states and saying uh we in fact you know

54:41

we want you to resist and refuse this

54:44

language of phasing out fossil

54:47

fuels this is very

54:50

bad bad for what bad for business

54:56

bad for their

54:58

business but are they are they the enemy

55:02

these people are they

55:06

evil are they the

55:12

problem are they going

55:14

to be the ones to tip us over the brink

55:20

to

55:22

catastrophic climate breakdown tipping

55:24

points

55:28

it would be in a sense

55:31

uh

55:34

convenient to see this group of people

55:37

as the

55:41

enemy to blame somebody to have somebody

55:43

to

55:45

blame the oil CEOs the billionaires the

55:49

corrupt politicians the corrupt

55:54

journalists

56:01

and

56:02

um how is it that they can do what

56:05

they're

56:06

doing and one of the things that is

56:08

being said for example about the company

56:11

Exxon is that they

56:13

knew in the 80s already they had done

56:17

lots of scientific studies and they they

56:19

knew uh about the consequences of

56:21

emitting carbon dioxide of of burning

56:24

more oil that it would cause heating

56:26

that it would cause potentially

56:29

catastrophic

56:30

uh breakdown of our life support system

56:34

they already knew in the in the ' 80s so

56:36

can we forgive

56:39

them if they

56:51

knew again the implication of this is

56:54

that

56:55

if they had really

56:57

known they wouldn't have done it and

57:00

they wouldn't be doing it

57:09

now so what is

57:12

it what is it that they didn't know what

57:16

is it that they don't know what is it

57:18

that we don't

57:20

know that allows us to

57:23

continue

57:26

with our

57:29

lifestyle to continue to

57:32

uh pretty much ignore the problem we

57:35

could do a little bit of recycling and

57:38

you

57:39

know feel bad about taking the

57:44

plane

57:46

right still take the plane but we feel

57:49

bad about

57:52

it so what would we have to no in order

57:56

to

57:58

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58:04

stop I want to talk about

58:07

um cognitive

58:16

dissonance so

58:23

um

58:35

cognitive dissonance is is fundamentally

58:38

a feeling of

58:40

discomfort it's the feeling of

58:42

discomfort when we recognize that there

58:45

is a mismatch between our

58:48

actions and the values that we claim to

58:54

hold

58:59

right fundamentally it is a feeling in

59:02

the body of

59:04

discomfort and we don't like

59:08

it when we encounter cognitive

59:11

dissonance there's a few different ways

59:14

that we can

59:17

react so let's say for

59:22

example

59:23

um

59:26

that we've decided uh to go on a diet

59:31

right and

59:33

yet suddenly you find yourself eating a

59:37

donut right so suddenly it's like I

59:41

don't know how it happened but there you

59:42

are with your

59:43

[Music]

59:45

donut so maybe for a moment you feel a

59:48

little bit

59:51

uncomfortable well you know I was going

59:54

to do this diet but donut so good so you

59:59

have some

60:01

options I'm broadly these kind of

60:04

there's four four ways that this can go

60:06

so first of all you can change your

60:13

behavior no more

60:17

donut put it down don't have to finish

60:22

it uh but you know

60:25

maybe see let's see if we have any other

60:28

options oh we could

60:32

justify we could justify our

60:35

actions I shouldn't be too

60:38

rigid come on I'm a human being I had a

60:43

hard

60:44

day I should be kind to myself right

60:46

don't we practice

60:49

self-compassion come

60:52

on don't be so dog

60:56

atic I'm allowed to

60:59

cheat I'm a

61:00

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61:03

human of course we never do

61:06

that or we

61:10

justify

61:13

by

61:14

adding other

61:18

behaviors so we say oh it's okay I'll go

61:20

for a run

61:22

later whether or not we actually go for

61:24

the run it's another question but in

61:27

that moment ah it's fine I'll

61:31

compensate right I'll plant a tree take

61:33

the flight plant a tree it's

61:41

okay so in that moment we feel better we

61:44

may or may not do the thing but in that

61:47

moment the cognitive dissonance is

61:50

resolved and that's our main aim we just

61:54

don't like the

61:56

feeling of not being in accord with our

61:58

own

62:01

values so we will do all kinds of things

62:05

to avoid that

62:10

feeling we can also

62:15

ignore or

62:17

deny the

62:20

evidence right you remember looking at

62:22

the moons of Jupiter going around said

62:24

no no no

62:25

no that's obviously not

62:33

happening was it

62:36

cernus who was um burned by the church

62:41

is it kernus or capler kernus no Galileo

62:44

Galileo Galileo galile

62:47

sorry he said

62:51

um something like this a

62:57

and yet it

63:01

moves when he was put on

63:03

trial and the church said we will burn

63:07

you for heresy you have to deny

63:12

recant repent your heretical views and

63:15

he said and yet it

63:21

moves I cannot deny the evidence look

63:24

there it is going

63:26

around what am I going to what do you

63:27

want me to do about it look I am not

63:31

prepared to deny

63:33

it and so he was

63:42

killed or not no he wasn't killed right

63:46

they just threatened him but he thought

63:48

he was going to be

63:51

killed he was so he spent a long time

63:54

house arrest right still not good and he

63:58

still wouldn't recant so my history is a

64:00

little

64:02

vague but with the donut we could be

64:04

like oh Donut's not so bad you

64:07

know it's not that

64:10

unhealthy just make something

64:14

up

64:19

adjust so we need to know that we do

64:23

this to avoid

64:25

an uncomfortable

64:27

feeling

64:30

right there's

64:32

another uh principle I want to offer us

64:36

which is uh called the Pyramid of

64:41

choice this is a

64:47

pyramid so this is a a

64:50

metaphor that um describes what happens

64:53

to us when

64:55

we uh it it's to account for our

65:00

Behavior and the way that we adjust our

65:03

views and our

65:05

values to account for our Behavior so we

65:08

used to think that humans people are

65:11

motivated by reward and punishment

65:14

that's

65:15

behaviorism right so that we we do

65:17

things because either we think that

65:18

we're going to be rewarded or or

65:20

punished we do things or we don't do

65:23

them turns out this is not the whole

65:26

story so to illustrate this we think

65:30

take a take a case uh of uh two young

65:35

people students who have to take an

65:39

exam and

65:42

um they are very similar in their

65:45

beliefs their ideology their

65:47

politics ethics they essentially you

65:51

know they have the same they hold the

65:52

same kind of views

65:54

and in the exam they come across a

65:56

question that uh they don't know how to

65:58

solve right they blank uhoh and they

66:02

know like if I don't answer this

66:04

question I will

66:06

fail right so this is a hypothetical

66:08

situation we imagine Just Go With It

66:10

okay so they know I'm going to

66:13

fail and they have an opportunity to

66:17

cheat it's easy they won't get

66:21

caught right so they know that they can

66:24

can cheat and they can get away with

66:27

it and so they're in a

66:31

dilemma is

66:33

uncomfortable right ethically I you know

66:36

I shouldn't really cheat

66:38

but if I do then I pass I can get a good

66:42

job everything will be great and if I

66:45

don't I'm going to fail is going to be

66:47

really over big problem and so the

66:50

choice the moment of choice is

66:51

uncomfortable and typically what happens

66:54

to us at a moment of discomfort is that

66:55

we jump to a conclusion just to avoid

66:58

the discomfort of having to make that

67:00

decision and the choice might be almost

67:03

random it's not

67:06

really

67:08

uh it we we we don't make the choice

67:11

based on some deep uh reflection we just

67:14

make the choice in order not to feel the

67:17

the awkward situation of being uh

67:21

undecided so to get rid of that disc

67:24

Comfort we just decide so one of them

67:25

decides to cheat one of them decides not

67:28

to

67:31

cheat so then what happens typically is

67:36

that we

67:37

adjust our views and our values to fit

67:41

the choice that we

67:42

made right usually we think it's the

67:44

other way around we think we have

67:45

beliefs and values and we make choices

67:47

based on those beliefs in fact very

67:50

often we make

67:52

decisions sometimes

67:54

without thinking through them very

67:58

carefully in a rush because we don't

68:01

like being undecided and then we adjust

68:04

our values and our views to justify the

68:07

decision that we already

68:10

took and what can happen over time is

68:14

that our values and our our belief

68:17

systems can so in the case of these two

68:20

people they are standing at the top of

68:21

the

68:22

pyramid and they have to decide either I

68:27

cheat or I

68:29

don't and they have the same values and

68:34

opinions and they make their decision

68:36

and then after some time maybe after a

68:39

few

68:40

weeks uh their values and their beliefs

68:44

start to

68:45

diverge

68:49

so if you think about it they both have

68:51

to give up something

68:54

in order to get something else so one of

68:57

them gives up their

68:59

integrity in order to get the

69:02

grade the other one gives up the the the

69:06

grade the exam in order to keep their

69:12

integrity

69:15

and if you've given up your integrity

69:17

what can happen is that after some time

69:20

in order to reduce the discomfort of

69:22

that the cognitive dissonance of

69:25

that you decide that actually cheating

69:27

is not so

69:28

bad

69:30

cheating in some

69:32

cases is okay didn't cause any harm look

69:37

I got a job now I have a family I have a

69:40

career I wouldn't have been able to do

69:42

any of this if I hadn't cheated so it's

69:44

not that

69:46

bad right and then you look at um people

69:49

who are very dogmatic about never

69:51

cheating as being kind of

69:54

like you know why is so

69:57

rigid you may even start to dislike

70:01

people like

70:03

that for the person who didn't cheat

70:06

they sacrificed passing the exam and so

70:10

gradually they find themselves being

70:12

more and more judgmental about people

70:15

who

70:16

cheat those people are

70:20

bad because they were tempted and they

70:22

know they could have gone that way but

70:23

didn't so they need to feel good about

70:26

not having made that

70:28

decision so you

70:30

entrench cheating is

70:34

disgraceful you know we can come to

70:36

dislike or even hate the other person

70:40

and we find that our views become very

70:42

very

70:46

Divergent so

70:52

um

70:54

this can maybe help

70:56

us

70:58

to to understand that our our views the

71:01

world view that we

71:04

have is

71:07

also um being adjusted constantly to

71:11

justify the choices that we

71:14

made let's say you're a monastic in PL

71:21

Village and maybe at some point you were

71:24

tempted to leave monastic

71:26

life but you

71:29

stayed but maybe you were tempted and

71:32

maybe at a certain point you start to

71:34

feel that anybody who lives monastic

71:35

life has betrayed their aspiration how

71:39

could they you you become a little harsh

71:43

a little critical about those people and

71:45

let's say you went the other way you

71:46

actually left you decided to

71:49

leave you know maybe at some point you

71:52

really believed in the monastic life but

71:53

then you decided to leave and you need

71:55

to justify that decision you say a look

71:57

at all those monastics in Plum Village

72:00

trapped you know they're not really

72:03

free look at them just following

72:07

rules what kind of life is that you need

72:10

to justify to yourself the decision that

72:12

you already made so I think it's very

72:15

important just as a mirror to realize

72:18

that our our

72:21

beliefs might be more fluid than we

72:36

think let's enjoy the sound of the

72:52

Bell

73:02

[Music]

73:26

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73:35

so the question to me is when we when we

73:38

know that we have these

73:40

Tendencies what do we what do we do

73:42

about it how can we train

73:45

ourselves to be able to resist these

73:49

tendencies in

73:52

ourselves um

74:17

if I ask

74:18

myself what it was that the soldiers who

74:21

crucified Jesus

74:24

didn't

74:26

know I think

74:28

partly the way I can relate to it is

74:33

by

74:34

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74:36

um is by looking at cognitive dissonance

74:38

and looking at how

74:40

we uh avoid knowing what we do in fact

74:45

know and one of the ways that we do that

74:47

is to basically avoid feeling

74:52

anything because our body doesn't

74:55

lie right our feelings don't

75:01

lie and um cognitive dissonance is

75:05

fundamentally that it's a feeling of

75:07

discomfort the body is telling us

75:10

hey something's

75:12

up so one of the things that we can do

75:15

is ignore

75:16

that and our culture really helps us to

75:19

do

75:21

that there's so many ways is that we can

75:24

ignore what we're feeling that we can

75:26

distract ourselves we can distract

75:27

ourselves with work we can distract

75:30

ourselves with

75:31

entertainment um with consumption of

75:34

various kinds there all kinds of ways to

75:37

avoid feeling what we are

75:41

feeling and we are profoundly averse to

75:44

any kind of

75:46

discomfort especially a kind of moral

75:49

discomfort so we will go to Great

75:51

Lengths to avoid avoid feeling what

75:54

we're feeling so if we put this the

75:56

other way around if we ask ourselves

75:58

well what would I do if I knew about

76:00

this tendency in myself I would want to

76:03

find a way of training

76:06

myself to accept

76:11

discomfort I would want to find a way to

76:13

train myself to be

76:15

comfortable with discomfort to allow

76:19

myself to feel

76:22

it

76:23

and I would want to investigate and ask

76:28

myself what uh I I want to look very

76:32

carefully at the kinds of things I do to

76:33

avoid feeling

76:37

it and the ways I have of justifying my

76:45

behavior so

76:47

um we know that we are interested in the

76:51

cultivation of right view okay and you

76:57

know everybody's heard the heart suut a

76:59

few times I me know it's something

77:01

something to do with emptiness right T

77:04

said the other day that emptiness

77:07

Embraces form and form Embraces

77:09

emptiness this is into beinging of

77:11

emptiness and

77:13

form and uh we know that understanding

77:17

emptiness has something to do with

77:18

letting go of the notion of self right

77:20

because emptiness is emptiness of what

77:23

only one

77:24

thing separate self right okay you know

77:26

all this this is

77:28

good so it has something to do with self

77:30

there must be something about the view

77:32

of self which is not right view okay so

77:36

we can look a little bit more deeply

77:38

into self View and Buddhism is great

77:42

because it has lots of lists and there's

77:45

a list of four different kinds of self

77:48

view that may be an

77:52

obstacle

77:58

in modern psychology

78:01

um we can look at uh the Pyramid of

78:06

choice as being a way to maintain our

78:11

self positivity bias so the self-

78:14

positivity bias is basically the belief

78:16

that I'm okay I'm a good

78:21

person I may be better than other people

78:25

right

78:26

basically um and it's it self-

78:29

positivity bias is uh what's operating

78:33

you know in every kind of action movie

78:36

or in pretty much every movie right

78:37

there's goodies and baddies and it's

78:39

very clear right and it's very easy that

78:42

we we can all identify with the goodies

78:45

that we are basically on the side of the

78:48

good and the right and the baddies are

78:51

very

78:51

clear it's morally unambiguous and we

78:55

feel so

78:56

good our self- positivity bias is

79:00

confirmed we like

79:03

that um but there's a problem with the

79:06

self- positivity bias because it implies

79:08

an other negativity

79:11

bias right if we're the good guys it

79:13

means somebody else maybe the oil CEOs

79:17

are the bad

79:21

guys and if we are committed in a deep

79:24

way to nonviolence and to peace on Earth

79:27

then we know that maybe this is not the

79:29

way to

79:30

go not to take the path of blaming

79:33

others

79:35

of making others responsible for all the

79:38

bad things we have to see in the light

79:41

of

79:42

interbeing we have to be able to see in

79:45

the face of the person that we think of

79:48

as our enemy our own

79:51

face we have to learn learn to see the

79:53

world as a

79:57

mirror that when we ask what Am I who am

80:00

I it's not just this but it's also

80:06

that so we want to uproot the self-

80:09

positivity bias and Buddhism is a bit

80:12

more precise so we have

80:15

um self-

80:21

ignorance this is

80:24

uh

80:26

Atma

80:33

mooha and that is the wrong view that I

80:37

am this body this body is me I am these

80:42

feelings these feelings are

80:44

me I am these perceptions I am these

80:48

thoughts I am this

80:51

consciousness

80:53

right so you have these passages in the

80:55

sutras they're very challenging you get

80:57

the opposite it's like I am not this

81:00

body this body is not me right I am not

81:03

these feelings these feelings are not me

81:05

I am not these perceptions these

81:07

perceptions are not me and you kind of

81:08

like

81:10

really how does that work we should be

81:13

challenged by that it should be maybe

81:17

interesting because this self- ignorance

81:19

this belief that I am this and I am not

81:22

that

81:24

leads to the belief that what happens to

81:26

other people effectively doesn't really

81:28

matter to

81:30

me it's not really of any concern to

81:40

me doesn't affect

81:44

me so I can do it because nothing's

81:48

happening to me I can press the button I

81:51

can drop the bomb

81:53

doesn't affect

81:57

me so if we don't want to drop the

82:00

bomb we have to challenge that we have

82:04

to learn to see the other as ourself we

82:07

have to free oursel from the idea that

82:09

this is me and that is

82:13

not so we have self

82:21

View

82:25

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82:27

this is

82:30

better self view is uh

82:44

Atma the false view that self is eternal

82:49

and

82:51

independent right so it's not so

82:54

dissimilar to self- ignorance but it's a

82:56

little bit it's pointing out the belief

82:59

in an independent and eternal

83:03

self as a potential obstacle then we

83:06

have self-

83:10

pride at

83:18

Mano and this is the attitude that we're

83:21

better more intelligent more beautiful

83:24

more

83:26

important um it's very interesting that

83:30

uh at least In some cultures this is

83:33

very very very strong so they did some

83:36

experiments with the teaching staff at a

83:38

university I think the University of

83:39

Nebraska in the

83:41

US

83:43

68% of the teaching staff rated

83:46

themselves in the top

83:50

25% of uh for for teaching

83:54

ability it's interesting right so 68%

83:58

believe that they are the top

84:00

25% there's a

84:03

problem 94% of them believed that they

84:06

were above

84:08

average

84:11

intelligence okay relative to the

84:13

university 87% of

84:17

uh students at Stanford I think in the

84:20

business

84:21

school

84:23

87% rated their performance as above

84:28

average

84:30

really interesting huh so we could ask

84:33

ourselves in the sang How do we rate our

84:38

practice definitely above average

84:42

right but if you know 95% of us rate

84:45

ourselves as above average and we have a

84:49

uh self- Pride

84:51

problem

84:56

maybe the average is very

85:02

high then we have

85:06

self-love at

85:11

Massa doesn't sound good does it

85:20

Adas so it's when our actions our speech

85:25

reflects constantly that we are

85:28

self-obsessed

85:30

so it's a a mirror to look

85:35

into and um yeah maybe it makes us a

85:38

little bit

85:39

uncomfortable to

85:41

look but I believe because of this when

85:46

we know about this means we we should be

85:50

inclined to go to towards our discomfort

85:54

the kinds of things that we want to

85:55

avoid maybe are things that we should

85:58

pay attention to look

86:03

at change our views

86:12

about so

86:21

um

86:23

I would

86:24

suggest that the attention we pay to the

86:28

world is a moral

86:34

act

86:46

attention because the kind of attention

86:49

we pay changes the nature

86:53

of what is

86:56

manifested right we know that according

86:58

to

86:59

non-duality the perceiver and the

87:02

perceived arise

87:06

together they co-

87:08

arise and so the quality and the nature

87:11

of our attention determines to a great

87:14

extent what it is that we perceive and

87:16

how we perceive it why is this

87:21

important let's say we've been

87:26

hurt maybe we've

87:31

suffered maybe

87:35

um we've experienced some

87:42

trauma that can give rise

87:46

to uh feelings of not being

87:51

safe feelings of uh

87:54

shame feelings of intense bodily uh

87:59

horror

88:04

discomfort and um the way we relate to

88:08

those

88:10

feelings may be

88:15

important if

88:17

we consistently position

88:20

ourselves as the victim

88:23

of what

88:25

happened then we may never have a chance

88:28

to to get out of that suffering of

88:31

course we can we can calm and we can

88:34

soothe the nervous system up to a point

88:37

and that's good and

88:40

helpful but we won't be able to liberate

88:42

ourselves from what happened as long as

88:44

we maintain the belief that we are the

88:47

victim of that

88:48

situation so let's say that uh an

88:51

unpleasant feeling

88:58

arises the quality of attention that I

89:01

give to that feeling matters it makes a

89:08

difference if I believe

89:12

that the object of my life is not to

89:14

feel any

89:16

discomfort to avoid at any cost all

89:20

discomfort

89:22

then I am at

89:25

risk of this of cognitive dissonance of

89:30

this I am at risk of doing things and

89:33

allowing myself to do things that are

89:36

fundamentally and profoundly against my

89:38

values my

89:41

beliefs because I've trained myself to

89:44

avoid discomfort but there is an

89:46

alternative

89:49

path so uh T off off us the Mantra this

89:53

is a happy

89:54

moment right which is very difficult if

89:58

you're

89:59

suffering especially let's say you've

90:02

suffered some serious

90:05

trauma and when that flashback or that

90:09

memory is

90:11

present it seems like uh a little bit

90:14

unrealistic to say this is a happy

90:17

moment I know that when I first heard

90:20

that teaching from Tai I did not like it

90:22

one

90:23

bit like this is not a happy moment this

90:27

is a suffering moment and I have a right

90:29

to

90:32

suffer but um I believe that part of our

90:36

meta ethic part of our system of

90:41

training for the cultivation of Right

90:44

View and the cultivation of uh the

90:47

ability

90:49

to apply the pairs of criteria that Tai

90:52

has offered us

90:53

effectively is a training in learning to

90:56

be comfortable with

91:01

discomfort right we know that our

91:03

current Paradigm is leading us on the

91:07

path of

91:09

destruction and we know we need a

91:13

change but it's very challenging very

91:16

uncomfortable to resist the force of

91:20

collective habit which is sweeping us

91:25

along it's much easier to say well you

91:30

know I just need to look after number

91:32

one I need to take care of my family I'm

91:34

going to take that job at the

91:36

bank yeah it's not completely in line

91:38

with my ethics but you

91:41

know it can't be that bad you know

91:44

probably those scientists are

91:46

exaggerating you know maybe it won't be

91:49

such a catastrophe we have all kinds of

91:52

ways to avoid the fundamental discomfort

91:55

of what we already

91:57

know so if we are determined to resist

92:01

if we are determined to be part of that

92:04

new paradigm that needs to

92:06

emerge we need to be comfortable with

92:09

the discomfort so what is the training

92:12

that allows

92:13

us to do that what is the training that

92:16

allows us to change our

92:19

views right what is the training that

92:22

allows us to face our cognitive diss

92:25

dissonance and go you know what I have

92:28

been ignoring the

92:30

evidence I was

92:33

wrong I'm okay with that I want to learn

92:36

from that I want to feel that oh I did

92:42

cause these people to

92:43

suffer let me investigate that let me

92:47

use that as a mirror to see my blind

92:50

spots

92:56

so yes

92:59

time okay let's make this

93:04

short this is a happy

93:07

moment might be too

93:11

challenging so I have a sequence for you

93:15

you can experiment with it might be

93:20

easier

93:22

this is a survivable

93:27

moment when you're really

93:30

suffering everything every cell in your

93:33

body is screaming out

93:35

for anything to avoid this feeling you

93:39

want to pick up your phone you want to

93:42

grab a book you want to get something to

93:44

eat you want to have a conversation go

93:46

somewhere just do something but just

93:48

don't allow myself to feel this it's

93:51

it's

93:53

unbearable so what is the step that we

93:56

can take in that

93:58

moment to avoid the path that we know so

94:01

well the path of distraction the path of

94:03

Avoid of avoidance the path of business

94:07

as usual individually and

94:12

collectively so for me that first step

94:14

is something like okay I don't like

94:18

it but this is a survivable moment

94:23

I really don't like it

94:25

but it's not going to kill

94:27

me even though I kind of feel like it

94:30

will but I can I can try as a hypothesis

94:34

let me just test that hypothesis okay

94:37

okay I

94:42

survived okay so what's next this is a

94:46

tolerable

94:48

moment yeah okay it's tolerable yes have

94:52

to give a dama talk

94:54

but it's okay I can bear

94:59

it this is an okay

95:03

moment see

95:05

gredy like yeah

95:08

okay it's okay it's not that bad so

95:14

staying with the feeling we're training

95:16

ourselves to learn to be comfortable

95:19

with discomfort because we know that

95:21

that's an antidote to cognitive

95:30

dissonance we know that this is the this

95:33

is the root of Paradigm change of being

95:37

willing to change our

95:39

views is being able to

95:42

tolerate the discomfort of the evidence

95:45

that contradicts or the gap between our

95:48

actions and our

95:49

values so we need to to learn how to do

95:52

this it's survivable it's tolerable it's

95:57

okay this is an interesting

96:01

moment okay oh yeah I don't still don't

96:05

like it much but I could get a little

96:08

curious about it okay this is an

96:10

interesting

96:13

moment this is a new

96:16

moment oh impermanence it's a little

96:21

little tiny seed of insight coming in

96:25

this moment is not the same as the last

96:26

moment it's a new moment that makes it

96:30

more

96:31

bearable I can stay with it a little bit

96:36

longer maybe I can even challenge the

96:41

feeling of not being safe by noticing

96:44

that this is a safe

96:48

moment I am not in danger

96:59

this is an okay

97:04

moment maybe this is a nonu

97:10

moment

97:12

oh

97:14

oh that's

97:17

interesting maybe I am not the victim of

97:19

this moment

97:22

maybe there is no ey which is standing

97:24

outside of and independent From This

97:27

Moment being the victim of this moment

97:30

instead what is AR

97:31

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97:32

Rising maybe this is an interdependent

97:35

Co Rising

97:37

moment oh that's interesting see a

97:40

little bit of heart Sutra getting in

97:42

there it's a way that we can apply these

97:46

insights actually experience it directly

97:50

check look at what you are seeing and

97:53

feeling

97:57

now this is a nonu

98:02

moment what I see is not me I see

98:06

you in

98:08

here right what you see is not you it's

98:12

me and everyone

98:15

else we are made of each other in this

98:18

moment it's very interesting

98:22

this is a fascinating

98:25

moment maybe even this is a wonderful

98:31

moment and maybe this is a happy

98:37

moment that we need to be

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creative to find a

98:44

way to transform our

98:47

view about the nature of suffering

98:53

to realize that it is not something that

98:55

we have to avoid it may be our greatest

99:02

teacher it might not even be

99:08

suffering not in the way that we thought

99:10

of

99:11

it the belief that this suffering is

99:14

intolerable and should not be

99:16

endured is only only works from the

99:20

point of view of of being a separate

99:22

self and being a

99:24

victim so if we can find ways to

99:26

challenge

99:29

that then

99:31

maybe we have the possibility of

99:34

becoming

99:37

free and realizing that that thing that

99:39

we called intolerable is

99:42

tolerable the thing that we called

99:44

uncomfortable is actually

99:50

fine the gap between our

99:52

actions and our values is

99:57

interesting that actually what calls us

100:00

really is to change our way of

100:05

acting to be more in tune with our deep

100:09

values maybe once we start to release

100:12

that view of all these different views

100:14

of self what results is love the Insight

100:18

of into

100:19

being

100:21

maybe this is what they didn't

100:26

know they didn't know that they were

100:28

doing it to

100:33

themselves if you think that you are

100:35

separate you can do terrible things but

100:38

if you know that you're

100:39

not maybe you can't do those things

100:42

anymore maybe you can't drop that bomb

100:48

anymore so we have to find a way of

100:51

training ourselves practically every day

100:54

in this Insight of into being like we

100:56

all get it intellectually it's not that

100:59

hard but can we maintain that Insight in

101:02

the moments when we are uncomfortable

101:05

when we are suffering when we believe

101:07

ourselves to be the

101:11

victim because until we

101:14

do I think we will continue business as

101:19

usual

101:24

so maybe this becomes forgive

101:29

them for they do not have Right

101:37

View pen refuses to

101:41

comply forgive them for they do not have

101:44

the Insight of into

101:49

being and maybe we can in the them we

101:52

include

101:54

ourselves forgive

101:57

us for we do not yet have the Insight of

102:01

into

102:03

being

102:04

we don't live by it

102:10

fully and the Insight of into being is

102:16

love and so I come back to this notion

102:19

of our attention the quality of our

102:21

attention that we

102:22

bring to ourselves to the other to our

102:27

own suffering is a moral

102:32

act when we Face our

102:35

suffering although the thing that we

102:38

want to do is avoid it when we can

102:41

follow this progression like this

102:43

tolerable it's okay

102:45

survivable okay I can be with it then

102:48

maybe we have a chance to love it

102:53

to see oh my poor moment my poor present

102:59

moment I have neglected you I have

103:01

avoided

103:03

you and all you wanted was love but

103:06

that's a that's a quality of

103:09

attention which changes the

103:12

world which can maybe allow us to hold

103:17

true to our deeper values

103:22

maybe allow us to do what France yeisha

103:31

did thank

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[Music]

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you

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[Music]

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[Music]

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[Music]

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for

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for

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