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a tough update on my startup & mistake... HouseHack.

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hey everyone me Kevin here boy oh boy it

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is time for an important update because

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look people on YouTube like to claim

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that they're transparent and they tend

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to just be transparent about the good I

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try to be transparent about the bad as

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well I'm human I make mistakes and I

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want to provide some updates here about

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my startup

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and it's not just going to be the good

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we're going to talk about the downsides

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as well some risk factors and we're also

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going to talk about some strategies to

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make sure that we can really maximize

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our potential while minimizing our risks

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but risks will never go away so let's

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talk about those the first and most

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important thing and this this isn't a

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mistake that has occurred yet or

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anything it's just something that's

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becoming more and more evident to me on

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sort of a daily basis is we need to be

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patient in this real estate market now

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that doesn't sound very exciting to many

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folks because a lot of folks are

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regularly sending me emails or DMS or

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messaging me and Discord saying hey when

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are you gonna buy your first property

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hey here's a wedge deal go buy this

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property here's a fixer-upper oh it's a

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good deal it's this much below market

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value and I have to keep telling people

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look we're not probably not going to buy

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a single thing until at like the

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earliest Q2 of 2023 but honestly

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probably Q3 Q4 of 2023 like we are going

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to be patient and and there's a real

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reason for that see in the United States

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we have a 30-year fixed rate mortgage

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which is the most popular mortgage for

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over 90 percent of Home borrowers and

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when mortgage rates rise we don't

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actually really see the pain for

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existing homeowners for a while it's

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really not until they lose their jobs

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and realize crap in order for me to move

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to get a different job in the event I

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had to move I have to sell my house well

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crap now I'm I'm increasing inventory in

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the market like it takes a while for you

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to see higher interest rates really

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affect the seller Market in America

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whereas you look at countries like

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Sweden or Australia or New Zealand where

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two-thirds of borrowers have variable

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rate loans and half of borrowers have to

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refinance this year or sell you're going

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to see a faster housing crash than you

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are in America and this is really

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important for when we look at America

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because first of all if the Federal

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Reserve were to U-turn tomorrow and say

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that's it we're dropping rates back to

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zero the housing boom in America will

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just continue like if that'll be the

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bottom right there and we'll just keep

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booming right what maybe we'll have seen

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a an 8 or 12 percent decline but it

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won't be very substantial but the longer

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rates stay trending in the direction

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that they are the more pricing will come

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into our favor it's gotten so much so

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and I've been talking about this since

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January on the channel That now you've

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got companies like Invitation Homes who

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have realized this and not only have

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they slowed or frozen their home

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purchases remember they're a division of

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well they're their own company now but

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they were started by BlackRock with the

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backing of BlackRock they have 85 000

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homes they manage about 68 homes per

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employee which honestly I think is

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pretty sad like one employee could

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easily manage two to three times as many

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homes with the proper systems but that's

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why I'm creating house hack right I

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believe with the systems that we have we

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can operate substantially leaner and

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more efficiently leading to higher

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margins and better profits and better

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growth for for our investors

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now uh but then again Invitation Homes

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was created through the merger of many

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different companies over the last decade

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and when you throw a lot of money at a

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problem you tend to get a lot of

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inefficiencies uh and so I don't know

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that there's necessarily that need to be

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very efficient in Invitation Homes even

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though their stock is down 28 they

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should probably start considering it uh

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they are now looking to raise one

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billion dollars in a joint venture

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partnership to raise more money to go

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buy the dip in single family real estate

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as the CEO is now saying quote we think

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there could be some even better buying

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opportunities and that's why they're

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waiting right now if we do see the

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market change in the way that's

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favorable to us we can take advantage of

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that that's why they're raising money

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now it's the same reason I'm raising

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money and you know that that leads a lot

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of people to say things like oh Kevin

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that means there's going to be a lot of

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competition no there won't be look the

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homeownership rate during housing

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crashes during housing recessions

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declines according to the housing the

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National Association of Realtors we're

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already in a housing recession it's just

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a matter of time before we really start

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seeing the price declines we've seen six

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and a half percent already probably once

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we get to march to May of next year

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we'll be down about 12 to 15 percent and

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then how much further we decline really

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is just going to be dependent on the FED

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are we going to get a small little

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discount are we going to start getting

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big Black Friday sales next year right

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and this is what we want to be prepared

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for but because of that lag I've been

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talking about with how much longer it

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takes for the job market to really be

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affected in America and then once the

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job market is affected then we start

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seeing the pain of housing via more

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people having to dump their homes uh

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whereas otherwise they would just stay

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put if they could that's when we start

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seeing pain see The Economist notes that

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a younger individuals who are actually

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more likely to move for a different job

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they're the ones who have the least

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housing equity in fact we expect that a

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15 drop in housing prices in America

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could destroy over two-thirds of the

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equity that home buyers have who've

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bought in the last few years now all of

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a sudden you're starting to get to the

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level where you might very soon once we

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have maybe a 20 decline in certain

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markets especially like Boise Idaho or

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Florida Texas you might start seeing

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people with negative equity and that's

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when you start getting these potential

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short sales now I'm not actually

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projecting that we'll have like a short

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sale foreclosure crisis but my point of

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all this sort of Market background talk

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is is just to say that I need to be

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extremely patient because remember my

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reputation is on the line with househack

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like I'm 30 years old I've been doing

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real estate for 11 and a half years I

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want to keep doing real estate and being

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part of the investing community in Wall

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Street for the next 40 to 50 years like

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I don't see myself stopping me think

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about 50 years that's a long time it's

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like you know Warren Buffett's what 90

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or something now or maybe even older I

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don't even know what he is maybe he's

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almost 90 I don't know but the point is

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if I'm 30 plus 50 that's that's 80 right

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hopefully knock on wood I'm still going

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uh and I plan to because like this is

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just part of my life I I like traveling

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to look at real estate you know I I like

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getting ready need to buy real estate

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and I like buying real estate I like

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remodeling real estate I love dealing

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with tenants it's great

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but the issue is that we face right now

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is the potential of being impatient I

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mean today you can already as a fund

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like what what we have or or a

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corporation that's raised a money uh via

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a fund you know we've raised uh over 29

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million dollars of commitments we'll

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talk more about that in just a moment

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you know we could buy bulk homes from

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home builders today at 15 to 25

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discounts depending on how we negotiate

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which is really remarkable but why would

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I do that now if I expect home prices to

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fall 20 and then I could get another 20

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discount buying in bulk on top of that

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right so I the most important thing that

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I found is be patient Market turns

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usually take longer than we expect

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that's I believe one of the big mistakes

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that I made in the stock market uh this

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year is I was right to sell what I did

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but I bought back in way too early and I

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I think that's somewhat uh my

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personality is that okay like the pain

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happened we were right let's get back in

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oh crap nope it's actually still got

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another leg down to go right uh that

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that is a mistake and that's the kind of

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mistake I really don't want to make in

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in real estate and I don't expect to the

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beautiful thing about real estate though

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where you can really minimize the risk

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of of these sorts of mistakes is the

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following uh oh okay well I'd like to do

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a picture certain picture here oh no yep

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there's there's that and then let's oh

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look at that there we go okay

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picture-in-picture on the mobile Studio

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works okay all right so what I really

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want to do is I want to be in a

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situation where if we do get this sort

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of Market dip we're not necessarily

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trying to be perfect and buy everything

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here because the danger of trying to buy

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everything right at the bottom is now

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you've got to rent out all these

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properties and you got to remodel all

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these properties right so we really want

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to go shopping all around this area

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around sort of the bottom and we expect

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that sort of bottom in the market to

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really last for years and that's really

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a change from what we've expected you

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know from the pandemic what you got used

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to in the pandemic in the pandemic you

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really had the Larry Kudlow v-shaped

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recovery where the market crashed and

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then interest rates were cut to zero and

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and housing boomed within two months it

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was remarkable I remember on a daily

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basis in March and April and you can go

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back and look at these videos from 2020

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and look at the comment the comments are

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brilliant look back at these videos and

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we see oh my gosh week after week I'm

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like this is weird prices aren't going

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down inventory is going down prices are

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trending up it's time to buy and so what

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did I did when I saw the signals that

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were actually at the bottom of the

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market is I bought as much as I could

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without over extending myself I bought

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eight properties myself within the span

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of the next three months march to like

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August and that was remarkable because I

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was buying before the market really

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started zooming at the end of 2020 at

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the beginning of 2021 and that's what I

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want to do as well with house hack now

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that recovery was very fast and we were

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right to move as quickly as possible

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because rates got slashed so quickly but

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the longer we just stay at you know fed

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funds rate of four and a half percent

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and then we pause and we we don't go

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down for over a year and then maybe we

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go down a quarter of a percent this

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could be a years-long process so we have

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a lot of time and that means we have to

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be very patient with house hack now that

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is an opportunity because it gives us

9:53

more time to buy the dip with less

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competition from first-time home buyers

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why because lending standards tighten

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when lendering standards tighten and

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people have less disposable income

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because if you're not already a home

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buyer you generally have less equity in

10:06

these sorts of situations because you

10:07

don't own real estate uh and it's harder

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for you to get in lending standards

10:11

again or tighter we're going to be able

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to buy cash and refinance in the future

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and so our goal now is let's raise the

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funding that we can over the next year

10:20

but we are in no rush to buy real estate

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right now the uh beautiful thing about

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that is we're operating this company

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extremely lean in fact we technically

10:32

have nobody on payroll right now now

10:34

that doesn't mean we don't have some

10:35

expenses we have some tiny expenses but

10:38

here's I'll give you a breakdown just in

10:40

full transparency as to how this is

10:41

working and we'll talk about the good

10:42

and bad and everything so uh what we've

10:45

got is obviously myself and Lauren we're

10:47

not taking any kind of salary but we'll

10:49

be compensated with stock based

10:51

compensation in the future uh once uh

10:54

you know we'll have some kind of stock

10:55

based comp plan that's that's very

10:56

reasonable probably like Elon Musk ish

10:59

really designed to make sure that

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investors are getting some kind of uh

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very good return knock on wood before we

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even get any money or even have the

11:10

opportunity to sell after an IPO or

11:11

whatever we'll have really strong lock

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up so we never want my reputation to be

11:15

like oh Kevin's 35 he ipo'd a company

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and you know uh he he you know burned

11:22

his investors or something like that

11:23

I'll never be able to raise money again

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uh that would be very very stupid right

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we can't do that

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uh so uh and of course we've got a board

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of directors as well making sure that

11:32

everything we do is extremely reasonable

11:34

and so the beautiful thing about our

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payroll is the following so we've got

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myself a Lauren we're we're free with

11:39

payroll but again we're we we're going

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to have equity in the future uh and then

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of course whatever we buy in now we've

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got a construction manager uh right now

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we're not doing any construction at

11:50

house hack and the beautiful thing about

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this is so we've got a really great

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construction manager I mean phenomenal

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we've really got two amazing

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construction managers they know my

11:58

formula they could go into a house and

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remodel it the Kevin rental way and it's

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safe it's to code or above code and it's

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a great property that we could rent out

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easily to a long-term tenant or a

12:10

short-term tenant whatever we want to do

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to maximize cash flow it's another risk

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factor we're seeing by the way right now

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is it's a lot of the markets I'm

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visiting including where I am now I'm

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seeing a large increase in the number of

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airbnbs available but not getting rented

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this is a red flag a big red flag

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probably as as more hotels have

12:28

occupancy and more business Travelers

12:30

are just using the convenience of a

12:31

hotel over dealing with a potential risk

12:33

or hassle of an Airbnb because Airbnb

12:35

landlords are so generally

12:37

non-standardized in the service they

12:39

provide anyway those are opportunities

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by the way for house hack as well for

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improvement so as uh as as our

12:45

construction manager and really two

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construction managers we've got this

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phenomenal uh staff of four people two

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managers and and two workers and of

12:54

course the managers are working managers

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as well it's not like you're just

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standing around watching two people

12:58

right that'd be crazy but they cost

13:00

house hack nothing right now but we have

13:03

them they're kind of like ammo in your

13:06

in your weapons Satchel ready to go

13:08

we're like ready we're ready but they

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don't cost us anything we kind of have

13:13

them reserved how do we do that well we

13:15

do that because I personally have two

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rental properties left that's all I've

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got I've sold 85 of my properties this

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year all at the beginning of the year

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the two properties we have is one of

13:27

them finally got approved we're going to

13:28

turn a three unit apartment building

13:30

into six now that's gonna be dope that's

13:32

gonna be amazing and I'll show you some

13:34

of the progress of that in separate

13:35

videos uh then we're going to turn a

13:37

single family into two units potentially

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three units but we don't have the permit

13:41

for the third yet we do have the permit

13:43

for the second so we've got six months

13:46

of work if not more for those

13:48

individuals and the cool thing is I can

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really

13:52

finesse that because I could say hey

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looks like you know we're going to be

13:55

buying sooner than expected let's start

13:57

subbing out to more contractors rather

13:59

than doing stuff ourselves if we need

14:02

them to be busy for longer let's do more

14:04

ourselves and sub out less I guess we're

14:06

painting instead of hiring the painter

14:07

right so we have this flexibility with

14:09

these projects which are big structural

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remodels which actually is really really

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cool because house hack pays zero to

14:17

have the benefit of these people

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eventually coming to House High payroll

14:20

and they're already trained or getting

14:23

better by the day for house hack like

14:25

they're going to be our coordinating

14:27

staff for House app we're not going to

14:28

do a lot of work ourselves for househag

14:30

I want to be clear about that we're

14:31

going to be subbing out most things for

14:33

househag because when we buy homes we're

14:35

going to be buying homes quickly we

14:36

can't go do everything I mean if it's

14:37

something quick like oh it's all a light

14:39

fixture fine you may as well do that

14:40

before you try to go sub it out to

14:42

somebody else but otherwise most things

14:43

will be subbed out in the markets that

14:45

we're buying in and people will be

14:46

assigned to the different markets that

14:48

we're buying it's we're going to be

14:49

Diversified and I'm going to be there a

14:51

lot in all the different markets can be

14:53

a lot of traveling but then so we've got

14:56

those four people that basically cost

14:57

house hack nothing then we've got a CEO

15:00

of really all of my companies which is

15:02

great because the other companies mostly

15:04

pay for this person uh minus a small

15:07

contribution that house hack makes to

15:09

their salary and they're phenomenal

15:10

because they really uh came into sort of

15:13

my life with with like no experience and

15:18

what's so great about that is they've

15:21

learned to be almost this replica of

15:23

Kevin over the last nearly year that

15:25

they've been working for me and so now

15:28

as they've started working on house I

15:30

thinks they do some things better than I

15:31

do just because they've taken everything

15:33

I do and then they try to improve on it

15:35

like they're real self they're a real

15:36

self-starter real learner and it's

15:38

really great because look there's always

15:39

a benefit of having somebody with a lot

15:41

of experience but then you also want

15:42

people with almost no experience so that

15:44

way you could kind of teach them to do

15:46

things your way and then and then work

15:48

with you on learning and perfecting

15:49

those really incredible so what's

15:51

awesome is uh you know I've got multiple

15:53

companies I've got uh and registered

15:55

investment advising company the

15:56

education company that's that's YouTube

15:58

and courses uh link down below and then

16:01

of course we've got house hack and so

16:03

they can spread themselves over all of

16:06

those and if let's say uh you know my

16:08

education company and the register

16:10

investment advising company those pay

16:12

most of the salaries and it's nominal

16:13

what house hack has to pay so it's

16:15

really really great uh then we've got a

16:18

uh two contractors at sort of our CFA

16:21

staff uh or CFO staff I should say CFO

16:25

staff bundle and it's really two for the

16:27

price of one a really really phenomenal

16:30

CPA staff over 40 years of experience

16:32

running a CPA practice second person has

16:34

over 20 years of doing investor

16:36

relations for a real estate company

16:37

extremely detail-oriented like they work

16:40

together closely with my CEO and so

16:42

we've got a really really great staff

16:44

here but they also do work on like my

16:48

books or filings for the registered

16:50

Investment Company

16:51

for for my education company so again

16:55

sharing in the cost that's less

16:58

basically burn that we have for house

17:00

hack it's really really cool because

17:02

we're lowering our costs for house hack

17:05

to virtually like almost like no burn

17:08

which is really really cool because

17:10

again myself and Lauren no payroll uh

17:13

we're compensated by YouTube uh and and

17:15

you know core sales the CEO would be

17:18

like you know maybe a third of their

17:20

payroll and the same thing for the CFO

17:22

folks be a third which is phenomenal

17:25

like this is so great

17:26

and so then uh and then again the

17:29

construction managers are being paid

17:30

zero uh in the construction Folks by

17:32

house type because they're not working

17:33

for house hack right now so really

17:35

really incredible system going on now we

17:37

did have to uh and then and then we have

17:38

a third party uh CMO like a marketing

17:41

officer as well but they also work for

17:43

all three companies it's so phenomenal

17:45

but uh we did unfortunately have to uh

17:47

let one oh and they're only the CMOS

17:50

compensation the only compensation we're

17:52

expecting them to get is some a stock

17:54

based comp so they're not even costing

17:56

us payroll now in the future like post

17:58

IPO that'll be a cost but I mean it it'd

18:01

be so worth it uh for the company anyway

18:04

we did have to let one person go and uh

18:08

you know I'd like to be I really believe

18:10

in the phrase uh you know higher slow

18:13

Fire fast you know unfortunately I'm

18:16

just going to give you a few examples of

18:17

really what it takes to be let go

18:20

um if when I hire you on day one I give

18:23

you a list and I tell you look the most

18:25

important thing to do do is make sure

18:27

these 20 bills are paid that is your one

18:30

responsibility I don't care what you

18:32

have to do I don't care if you have to

18:34

climb Mount Everest you make sure those

18:36

bills are paid because if they're not

18:38

you mess up my credit score you mess up

18:41

my credit score now it makes it harder

18:43

for me to personally guarantee real

18:46

estate and that creates problems and so

18:49

this is a you know these expectations

18:51

are very very clear and unfortunately

18:54

there are just sometimes people who you

18:57

might whom you might assign to a task

18:58

like hey your task is to create a new

19:00

receipt system to make sure we're we're

19:02

like perfectly ready for an audit

19:04

because at some point in the future

19:06

there's always going to be an audit in

19:07

fact when we go through the reggae

19:08

processor they're going to be Audits and

19:10

that's good because it's good for

19:12

investor transparency but you have to

19:14

actually be prepared for those and it's

19:15

easier to prepare for audits when you

19:17

actually deal with the receipts as you

19:19

get your receipts rather than trying to

19:21

go find them all after the fact that's

19:23

terrible right because we're like hey

19:25

why don't you since you're in charge of

19:27

of the receipt system and bills why

19:28

don't you make sure you've got very

19:30

strong system going on uh and uh and let

19:33

us know how it is in a week from now and

19:35

then a week later it's like how's your

19:36

receipt system going oh I asked the

19:39

other person to send me some receipts

19:40

but they never did like dude I don't

19:43

care what you need to do if you need to

19:44

drive over there go get the receipts you

19:47

make sure you get the receipts each very

19:49

simple and we're giving you the autonomy

19:50

like we're not micromanaging we're

19:52

giving you the autonomy to figure it out

19:53

but this is your job your job is making

19:56

sure you figure it out and don't miss

19:59

payments on those bills

20:01

a week later we get a late on a bill on

20:04

one of my personal bills so it doesn't

20:05

really affect anything it didn't affect

20:06

my credit either which is fine uh but

20:08

I'm like what how are we late on a water

20:11

bill

20:12

and how is your receipt system I still

20:14

haven't gotten into your seats what are

20:16

you doing buy uh so like like that's not

20:20

the kind of person you wanted a company

20:22

because then it also sets a bad standard

20:24

for your CMO your CEO your CFO now all

20:27

of a sudden other people are like what

20:28

how how is that person here getting paid

20:31

right now that person didn't get

20:32

compensated by house hack one dime so

20:34

it's not like a cost to house hack which

20:36

is good

20:37

so uh but but it you know I mean that's

20:39

just the nature of having a business

20:40

right so really we've got this this

20:43

fractional payroll and the Beautiful

20:44

Thing is we're going to be putting a lot

20:46

of uh the cash that we have into

20:48

treasury soon once we get to 25 million

20:50

in wires now this is where a little bit

20:54

I want to be transparent with some of

20:56

the the uh you know things that have

20:59

come up

21:00

September was really great we launched

21:02

uh somewhere around September 10th I

21:05

think it was something like that and uh

21:07

we raised over a million dollars a day

21:10

in commitments uh and now we're at about

21:12

29 million in commitments we're almost

21:14

at 25 million in wires which is great

21:15

because once we unlock the 25 million

21:18

wires we're going to be able to uh Park

21:21

that money into six to 12 month

21:23

treasuries we can't do it until we hit

21:25

25 million in wires because that's what

21:27

we committed to people in the purchase

21:29

or the private placement memorandum at

21:30

househack.com

21:32

you could read that you can you can join

21:34

the investment there and you get founder

21:35

shares remember there's there's no

21:37

dilution you up front you get you get

21:39

founding shares in the company so you

21:41

get the same sort of shares that I get

21:43

that I'm buying uh I'm almost saying one

21:46

million dollars myself and that's going

21:47

to grow uh as time goes on here and uh

21:51

you know again in the future and this is

21:53

the beautiful thing I think about this

21:54

company and it's it's all being based on

21:56

why I want to make sure early investors

21:58

are so well rewarded because my

22:00

reputation's on this right I want early

22:02

investors to be like oh my gosh I can't

22:03

believe I made so much money with Kevin

22:05

I wish I invested more so that way when

22:07

in the future I'm like hey I got another

22:09

you know fund race for house hack or

22:11

whatever people like yes like I don't

22:14

even need to know why or what just yes

22:16

like that's the goal in the future right

22:18

so I really have to take care of these

22:19

first people and that's why we're doing

22:20

founder shares no dilution up front and

22:23

uh we'll talk about on non-accredited

22:25

investors in just a moment

22:27

uh yeah and again the only dilution will

22:29

be in the future after IPO uh with

22:33

strict lock up some form of stock based

22:35

comp but again I say that not like it's

22:38

dilutive to today's valuation because

22:40

it's not because every company has stock

22:42

based comp so you know it's it's it's

22:45

like they're two separate things but

22:46

anyway I know that that's confusing for

22:48

some folks but dilution is really a

22:50

toxic thing I mean people people raise

22:52

you know things at a billion I think

22:54

like boxable as like a two or three

22:56

billion dollar valuation but they've

22:57

raised like 200 million dollars I'm like

22:59

oh my gosh the poor investors who are

23:01

going into that are getting deluded so

23:02

terribly but that's that's the way it

23:04

works anyway so uh the the problem

23:08

that's come up is we have these

23:10

deadlines at the end of each month we

23:14

have a deadline in terms of how much in

23:17

uh basically call options you get so

23:20

here's how that works they're

23:21

technically called warrants because call

23:23

options are on the market warrants are

23:25

are done with a company

23:26

if you invest a hundred thousand dollars

23:28

into house hack by October 31st and your

23:32

course member at some point in the

23:34

future probably in like 2024 we can call

23:37

you up and go hey you can contribute

23:38

another 60 or 60 000 in that case at the

23:43

day one valuation so that means we're

23:46

already buying real estate we already

23:47

have rental properties our valuation is

23:48

going to be higher but you can

23:50

contribute another 60 Grand at the day

23:51

one valuation

23:53

now some folks are like wait a minute

23:54

Kevin isn't that dilutive technically no

23:56

because for example if you contributed a

24:00

million dollars and we raised a hundred

24:02

million dollars you have uh well one

24:06

percent ownership of a hundred million

24:08

dollars or one million dollars

24:10

if we then raise an extra 50 million

24:13

dollars well then technically your

24:15

ownership share goes down to like point

24:16

six seven percent but that still

24:19

represents one million dollars in value

24:21

right 0.67 times 150 it's still going to

24:24

be one million dollars and that's the

24:27

beautiful thing about this let's do a

24:29

quick little fact check on my math there

24:31

1 million divided by uh 150 million yeah

24:34

0.67 exactly so so the cool thing about

24:38

that though is it gives house hack

24:39

another opportunity to raise more cash

24:42

so we can go buy more deals at what we

24:44

think will still be the bottom of the

24:46

market and it again rewards early

24:48

investors

24:49

and so we have a deadline at the end of

24:51

every single month at the end of

24:53

September we had a deadline where you

24:55

could get up to 65 percent of these up

24:57

these warrants options basically and

25:00

they're free right they don't cost you

25:01

anything to have these which is great UH

25:03

60 at the end of October 31st so as long

25:06

as you sign your subscription agreement

25:07

by the end of October 31st and you wire

25:09

by the end of the first business week of

25:11

November you're in at 60 percent

25:15

uh if you wire by the end of December uh

25:19

or I'm Sorry by the end of November 30

25:20

well 30th that would be if you sign by

25:23

the end of November it'll be down

25:25

another 10 by December the end of

25:27

December it'll be down another 10

25:28

percent

25:29

and probably by the time we do the

25:31

non-accredited round the opportunity to

25:34

get warrants will be pretty low or zero

25:36

uh but at this point it looks like

25:41

because the accredited the non uh the

25:43

process for non-accredited investors is

25:45

going relatively fast it looks like we

25:48

might be able to get non-accredited

25:49

investors in at the founder evaluation

25:54

the minimum investment for

25:56

non-accredited investors will probably

25:58

be twenty thousand dollars unless you're

26:00

a course member and then the minimum

26:02

investment will be five thousand dollars

26:04

that's what we're tentatively writing uh

26:07

which is really cool so that way you

26:09

don't have to be accredited but

26:11

obviously if you're accredited and you

26:13

sign now you get more options so it all

26:16

sort of depends on on when that the SEC

26:18

approves our non-accredited route but

26:20

we're working on that and so the goal

26:22

really is uh oh yeah well the downside

26:25

the downside is we had a really great

26:28

run going up to the end of September

26:30

because the people who wanted to invest

26:32

invested to get those options

26:34

but it's really slowed down in October

26:37

and that's I think because we kind of

26:38

hit a pull forward a pull forward is

26:41

kind of like when you have a Black

26:42

Friday sales event and so many people

26:44

buy or so many people fund right then

26:47

like the the first couple weeks of

26:50

December your sales are like really low

26:52

because everybody was going to buy

26:54

already did during that sale and it's

26:55

like the pull forward is like a painful

26:57

moment

26:58

kind of like a pull forward that you see

27:00

with like solar panels right before

27:02

December 31st everybody wants to spend

27:04

their money to get their tax credit

27:05

right before the end of the year and

27:07

then sales plummet in January super

27:10

super typical we're feeling that right

27:12

now so additional commitments have

27:14

slowed down a lot now that's not

27:17

necessarily a bad thing because the

27:19

company is going to happen like we will

27:22

be having house hack and it's actually

27:26

it almost makes it easier for me to have

27:29

less money because I I feel like I can

27:32

and no guarantees okay now just I'm just

27:34

hypothetically speculating here if if I

27:37

have

27:38

25 or 30 let's say I have 30 million

27:40

dollars right and it gives me about a

27:42

hundred million dollars of purchasing

27:43

power for Real Estate uh I could

27:45

probably you know 5x the value of that

27:48

company quicker than I could 5x the

27:51

value of the company if I had uh you

27:54

know 500 million dollars and and uh of

27:58

cash and you know maybe 1.5 or or closer

28:02

to two billion dollars of purchasing

28:04

power just because it's going to take

28:06

longer to get that much kind of staff

28:08

I personally think a real good Target

28:10

though for us by March is to be really

28:13

somewhere around uh 50 to 150 million

28:18

dollars raised so for example I mean if

28:20

we get to 75 million dollars by let's

28:22

say February 28th and then we do our

28:25

non-accredited round and we do another

28:27

75 that's 150. that's good we don't need

28:30

more than that but the company is

28:31

valuable already at at 30 million

28:34

dollars which is roughly the amount of

28:36

commitments we have so we're viable

28:37

we're great and we're just in our first

28:40

we just passed our first first month of

28:42

fundraising but that does mean there was

28:45

a deadline coming up here at the end of

28:46

October for if you are an investor and

28:49

you want to come in Now's the Time to

28:51

get your letter from

28:52

househack.investready.com get your

28:54

accredited investor letter and uh sign

28:56

the subscription agreement if you have

28:58

questions email us at ir househack.com

29:00

and join if you're non-accredited stand

29:03

by for the beginning of next year which

29:05

will be very exciting and uh yeah we're

29:08

super excited it's everything is is

29:11

honestly going way better than I

29:12

expected and if you think about it we're

29:14

like at the bottom of the market I mean

29:15

I have a lot of investors sending us

29:16

emails and stuff saying look dude Tesla

29:18

stock is down right now we're just gonna

29:20

wait until task stock is up more and

29:21

we'll just have to sit out on some of

29:23

those options

29:24

so I mean we have multi-millions of

29:26

dollars of commitments from from Tesla

29:28

investors but they're like we're just

29:30

going to wait a little bit for Tesla to

29:31

rebound a little bit or have a euphoric

29:33

Rally or something I don't blame them

29:35

anyway go to house act on

29:36

investready.com to get accredited go to

29:39

househack.com to upload your letter and

29:41

folks hope you appreciated the update

29:43

leave questions in Discord at

29:45

metcaven.com chat and I'll personally

29:47

reply under the seed company

29:51

Discord channels thanks bye

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