a tough update on my startup & mistake... HouseHack.
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hey everyone me Kevin here boy oh boy it
is time for an important update because
look people on YouTube like to claim
that they're transparent and they tend
to just be transparent about the good I
try to be transparent about the bad as
well I'm human I make mistakes and I
want to provide some updates here about
my startup
and it's not just going to be the good
we're going to talk about the downsides
as well some risk factors and we're also
going to talk about some strategies to
make sure that we can really maximize
our potential while minimizing our risks
but risks will never go away so let's
talk about those the first and most
important thing and this this isn't a
mistake that has occurred yet or
anything it's just something that's
becoming more and more evident to me on
sort of a daily basis is we need to be
patient in this real estate market now
that doesn't sound very exciting to many
folks because a lot of folks are
regularly sending me emails or DMS or
messaging me and Discord saying hey when
are you gonna buy your first property
hey here's a wedge deal go buy this
property here's a fixer-upper oh it's a
good deal it's this much below market
value and I have to keep telling people
look we're not probably not going to buy
a single thing until at like the
earliest Q2 of 2023 but honestly
probably Q3 Q4 of 2023 like we are going
to be patient and and there's a real
reason for that see in the United States
we have a 30-year fixed rate mortgage
which is the most popular mortgage for
over 90 percent of Home borrowers and
when mortgage rates rise we don't
actually really see the pain for
existing homeowners for a while it's
really not until they lose their jobs
and realize crap in order for me to move
to get a different job in the event I
had to move I have to sell my house well
crap now I'm I'm increasing inventory in
the market like it takes a while for you
to see higher interest rates really
affect the seller Market in America
whereas you look at countries like
Sweden or Australia or New Zealand where
two-thirds of borrowers have variable
rate loans and half of borrowers have to
refinance this year or sell you're going
to see a faster housing crash than you
are in America and this is really
important for when we look at America
because first of all if the Federal
Reserve were to U-turn tomorrow and say
that's it we're dropping rates back to
zero the housing boom in America will
just continue like if that'll be the
bottom right there and we'll just keep
booming right what maybe we'll have seen
a an 8 or 12 percent decline but it
won't be very substantial but the longer
rates stay trending in the direction
that they are the more pricing will come
into our favor it's gotten so much so
and I've been talking about this since
January on the channel That now you've
got companies like Invitation Homes who
have realized this and not only have
they slowed or frozen their home
purchases remember they're a division of
well they're their own company now but
they were started by BlackRock with the
backing of BlackRock they have 85 000
homes they manage about 68 homes per
employee which honestly I think is
pretty sad like one employee could
easily manage two to three times as many
homes with the proper systems but that's
why I'm creating house hack right I
believe with the systems that we have we
can operate substantially leaner and
more efficiently leading to higher
margins and better profits and better
growth for for our investors
now uh but then again Invitation Homes
was created through the merger of many
different companies over the last decade
and when you throw a lot of money at a
problem you tend to get a lot of
inefficiencies uh and so I don't know
that there's necessarily that need to be
very efficient in Invitation Homes even
though their stock is down 28 they
should probably start considering it uh
they are now looking to raise one
billion dollars in a joint venture
partnership to raise more money to go
buy the dip in single family real estate
as the CEO is now saying quote we think
there could be some even better buying
opportunities and that's why they're
waiting right now if we do see the
market change in the way that's
favorable to us we can take advantage of
that that's why they're raising money
now it's the same reason I'm raising
money and you know that that leads a lot
of people to say things like oh Kevin
that means there's going to be a lot of
competition no there won't be look the
homeownership rate during housing
crashes during housing recessions
declines according to the housing the
National Association of Realtors we're
already in a housing recession it's just
a matter of time before we really start
seeing the price declines we've seen six
and a half percent already probably once
we get to march to May of next year
we'll be down about 12 to 15 percent and
then how much further we decline really
is just going to be dependent on the FED
are we going to get a small little
discount are we going to start getting
big Black Friday sales next year right
and this is what we want to be prepared
for but because of that lag I've been
talking about with how much longer it
takes for the job market to really be
affected in America and then once the
job market is affected then we start
seeing the pain of housing via more
people having to dump their homes uh
whereas otherwise they would just stay
put if they could that's when we start
seeing pain see The Economist notes that
a younger individuals who are actually
more likely to move for a different job
they're the ones who have the least
housing equity in fact we expect that a
15 drop in housing prices in America
could destroy over two-thirds of the
equity that home buyers have who've
bought in the last few years now all of
a sudden you're starting to get to the
level where you might very soon once we
have maybe a 20 decline in certain
markets especially like Boise Idaho or
Florida Texas you might start seeing
people with negative equity and that's
when you start getting these potential
short sales now I'm not actually
projecting that we'll have like a short
sale foreclosure crisis but my point of
all this sort of Market background talk
is is just to say that I need to be
extremely patient because remember my
reputation is on the line with househack
like I'm 30 years old I've been doing
real estate for 11 and a half years I
want to keep doing real estate and being
part of the investing community in Wall
Street for the next 40 to 50 years like
I don't see myself stopping me think
about 50 years that's a long time it's
like you know Warren Buffett's what 90
or something now or maybe even older I
don't even know what he is maybe he's
almost 90 I don't know but the point is
if I'm 30 plus 50 that's that's 80 right
hopefully knock on wood I'm still going
uh and I plan to because like this is
just part of my life I I like traveling
to look at real estate you know I I like
getting ready need to buy real estate
and I like buying real estate I like
remodeling real estate I love dealing
with tenants it's great
but the issue is that we face right now
is the potential of being impatient I
mean today you can already as a fund
like what what we have or or a
corporation that's raised a money uh via
a fund you know we've raised uh over 29
million dollars of commitments we'll
talk more about that in just a moment
you know we could buy bulk homes from
home builders today at 15 to 25
discounts depending on how we negotiate
which is really remarkable but why would
I do that now if I expect home prices to
fall 20 and then I could get another 20
discount buying in bulk on top of that
right so I the most important thing that
I found is be patient Market turns
usually take longer than we expect
that's I believe one of the big mistakes
that I made in the stock market uh this
year is I was right to sell what I did
but I bought back in way too early and I
I think that's somewhat uh my
personality is that okay like the pain
happened we were right let's get back in
oh crap nope it's actually still got
another leg down to go right uh that
that is a mistake and that's the kind of
mistake I really don't want to make in
in real estate and I don't expect to the
beautiful thing about real estate though
where you can really minimize the risk
of of these sorts of mistakes is the
following uh oh okay well I'd like to do
a picture certain picture here oh no yep
there's there's that and then let's oh
look at that there we go okay
picture-in-picture on the mobile Studio
works okay all right so what I really
want to do is I want to be in a
situation where if we do get this sort
of Market dip we're not necessarily
trying to be perfect and buy everything
here because the danger of trying to buy
everything right at the bottom is now
you've got to rent out all these
properties and you got to remodel all
these properties right so we really want
to go shopping all around this area
around sort of the bottom and we expect
that sort of bottom in the market to
really last for years and that's really
a change from what we've expected you
know from the pandemic what you got used
to in the pandemic in the pandemic you
really had the Larry Kudlow v-shaped
recovery where the market crashed and
then interest rates were cut to zero and
and housing boomed within two months it
was remarkable I remember on a daily
basis in March and April and you can go
back and look at these videos from 2020
and look at the comment the comments are
brilliant look back at these videos and
we see oh my gosh week after week I'm
like this is weird prices aren't going
down inventory is going down prices are
trending up it's time to buy and so what
did I did when I saw the signals that
were actually at the bottom of the
market is I bought as much as I could
without over extending myself I bought
eight properties myself within the span
of the next three months march to like
August and that was remarkable because I
was buying before the market really
started zooming at the end of 2020 at
the beginning of 2021 and that's what I
want to do as well with house hack now
that recovery was very fast and we were
right to move as quickly as possible
because rates got slashed so quickly but
the longer we just stay at you know fed
funds rate of four and a half percent
and then we pause and we we don't go
down for over a year and then maybe we
go down a quarter of a percent this
could be a years-long process so we have
a lot of time and that means we have to
be very patient with house hack now that
is an opportunity because it gives us
more time to buy the dip with less
competition from first-time home buyers
why because lending standards tighten
when lendering standards tighten and
people have less disposable income
because if you're not already a home
buyer you generally have less equity in
these sorts of situations because you
don't own real estate uh and it's harder
for you to get in lending standards
again or tighter we're going to be able
to buy cash and refinance in the future
and so our goal now is let's raise the
funding that we can over the next year
but we are in no rush to buy real estate
right now the uh beautiful thing about
that is we're operating this company
extremely lean in fact we technically
have nobody on payroll right now now
that doesn't mean we don't have some
expenses we have some tiny expenses but
here's I'll give you a breakdown just in
full transparency as to how this is
working and we'll talk about the good
and bad and everything so uh what we've
got is obviously myself and Lauren we're
not taking any kind of salary but we'll
be compensated with stock based
compensation in the future uh once uh
you know we'll have some kind of stock
based comp plan that's that's very
reasonable probably like Elon Musk ish
really designed to make sure that
investors are getting some kind of uh
very good return knock on wood before we
even get any money or even have the
opportunity to sell after an IPO or
whatever we'll have really strong lock
up so we never want my reputation to be
like oh Kevin's 35 he ipo'd a company
and you know uh he he you know burned
his investors or something like that
I'll never be able to raise money again
uh that would be very very stupid right
we can't do that
uh so uh and of course we've got a board
of directors as well making sure that
everything we do is extremely reasonable
and so the beautiful thing about our
payroll is the following so we've got
myself a Lauren we're we're free with
payroll but again we're we we're going
to have equity in the future uh and then
of course whatever we buy in now we've
got a construction manager uh right now
we're not doing any construction at
house hack and the beautiful thing about
this is so we've got a really great
construction manager I mean phenomenal
we've really got two amazing
construction managers they know my
formula they could go into a house and
remodel it the Kevin rental way and it's
safe it's to code or above code and it's
a great property that we could rent out
easily to a long-term tenant or a
short-term tenant whatever we want to do
to maximize cash flow it's another risk
factor we're seeing by the way right now
is it's a lot of the markets I'm
visiting including where I am now I'm
seeing a large increase in the number of
airbnbs available but not getting rented
this is a red flag a big red flag
probably as as more hotels have
occupancy and more business Travelers
are just using the convenience of a
hotel over dealing with a potential risk
or hassle of an Airbnb because Airbnb
landlords are so generally
non-standardized in the service they
provide anyway those are opportunities
by the way for house hack as well for
improvement so as uh as as our
construction manager and really two
construction managers we've got this
phenomenal uh staff of four people two
managers and and two workers and of
course the managers are working managers
as well it's not like you're just
standing around watching two people
right that'd be crazy but they cost
house hack nothing right now but we have
them they're kind of like ammo in your
in your weapons Satchel ready to go
we're like ready we're ready but they
don't cost us anything we kind of have
them reserved how do we do that well we
do that because I personally have two
rental properties left that's all I've
got I've sold 85 of my properties this
year all at the beginning of the year
the two properties we have is one of
them finally got approved we're going to
turn a three unit apartment building
into six now that's gonna be dope that's
gonna be amazing and I'll show you some
of the progress of that in separate
videos uh then we're going to turn a
single family into two units potentially
three units but we don't have the permit
for the third yet we do have the permit
for the second so we've got six months
of work if not more for those
individuals and the cool thing is I can
really
finesse that because I could say hey
looks like you know we're going to be
buying sooner than expected let's start
subbing out to more contractors rather
than doing stuff ourselves if we need
them to be busy for longer let's do more
ourselves and sub out less I guess we're
painting instead of hiring the painter
right so we have this flexibility with
these projects which are big structural
remodels which actually is really really
cool because house hack pays zero to
have the benefit of these people
eventually coming to House High payroll
and they're already trained or getting
better by the day for house hack like
they're going to be our coordinating
staff for House app we're not going to
do a lot of work ourselves for househag
I want to be clear about that we're
going to be subbing out most things for
househag because when we buy homes we're
going to be buying homes quickly we
can't go do everything I mean if it's
something quick like oh it's all a light
fixture fine you may as well do that
before you try to go sub it out to
somebody else but otherwise most things
will be subbed out in the markets that
we're buying in and people will be
assigned to the different markets that
we're buying it's we're going to be
Diversified and I'm going to be there a
lot in all the different markets can be
a lot of traveling but then so we've got
those four people that basically cost
house hack nothing then we've got a CEO
of really all of my companies which is
great because the other companies mostly
pay for this person uh minus a small
contribution that house hack makes to
their salary and they're phenomenal
because they really uh came into sort of
my life with with like no experience and
what's so great about that is they've
learned to be almost this replica of
Kevin over the last nearly year that
they've been working for me and so now
as they've started working on house I
thinks they do some things better than I
do just because they've taken everything
I do and then they try to improve on it
like they're real self they're a real
self-starter real learner and it's
really great because look there's always
a benefit of having somebody with a lot
of experience but then you also want
people with almost no experience so that
way you could kind of teach them to do
things your way and then and then work
with you on learning and perfecting
those really incredible so what's
awesome is uh you know I've got multiple
companies I've got uh and registered
investment advising company the
education company that's that's YouTube
and courses uh link down below and then
of course we've got house hack and so
they can spread themselves over all of
those and if let's say uh you know my
education company and the register
investment advising company those pay
most of the salaries and it's nominal
what house hack has to pay so it's
really really great uh then we've got a
uh two contractors at sort of our CFA
staff uh or CFO staff I should say CFO
staff bundle and it's really two for the
price of one a really really phenomenal
CPA staff over 40 years of experience
running a CPA practice second person has
over 20 years of doing investor
relations for a real estate company
extremely detail-oriented like they work
together closely with my CEO and so
we've got a really really great staff
here but they also do work on like my
books or filings for the registered
Investment Company
for for my education company so again
sharing in the cost that's less
basically burn that we have for house
hack it's really really cool because
we're lowering our costs for house hack
to virtually like almost like no burn
which is really really cool because
again myself and Lauren no payroll uh
we're compensated by YouTube uh and and
you know core sales the CEO would be
like you know maybe a third of their
payroll and the same thing for the CFO
folks be a third which is phenomenal
like this is so great
and so then uh and then again the
construction managers are being paid
zero uh in the construction Folks by
house type because they're not working
for house hack right now so really
really incredible system going on now we
did have to uh and then and then we have
a third party uh CMO like a marketing
officer as well but they also work for
all three companies it's so phenomenal
but uh we did unfortunately have to uh
let one oh and they're only the CMOS
compensation the only compensation we're
expecting them to get is some a stock
based comp so they're not even costing
us payroll now in the future like post
IPO that'll be a cost but I mean it it'd
be so worth it uh for the company anyway
we did have to let one person go and uh
you know I'd like to be I really believe
in the phrase uh you know higher slow
Fire fast you know unfortunately I'm
just going to give you a few examples of
really what it takes to be let go
um if when I hire you on day one I give
you a list and I tell you look the most
important thing to do do is make sure
these 20 bills are paid that is your one
responsibility I don't care what you
have to do I don't care if you have to
climb Mount Everest you make sure those
bills are paid because if they're not
you mess up my credit score you mess up
my credit score now it makes it harder
for me to personally guarantee real
estate and that creates problems and so
this is a you know these expectations
are very very clear and unfortunately
there are just sometimes people who you
might whom you might assign to a task
like hey your task is to create a new
receipt system to make sure we're we're
like perfectly ready for an audit
because at some point in the future
there's always going to be an audit in
fact when we go through the reggae
processor they're going to be Audits and
that's good because it's good for
investor transparency but you have to
actually be prepared for those and it's
easier to prepare for audits when you
actually deal with the receipts as you
get your receipts rather than trying to
go find them all after the fact that's
terrible right because we're like hey
why don't you since you're in charge of
of the receipt system and bills why
don't you make sure you've got very
strong system going on uh and uh and let
us know how it is in a week from now and
then a week later it's like how's your
receipt system going oh I asked the
other person to send me some receipts
but they never did like dude I don't
care what you need to do if you need to
drive over there go get the receipts you
make sure you get the receipts each very
simple and we're giving you the autonomy
like we're not micromanaging we're
giving you the autonomy to figure it out
but this is your job your job is making
sure you figure it out and don't miss
payments on those bills
a week later we get a late on a bill on
one of my personal bills so it doesn't
really affect anything it didn't affect
my credit either which is fine uh but
I'm like what how are we late on a water
bill
and how is your receipt system I still
haven't gotten into your seats what are
you doing buy uh so like like that's not
the kind of person you wanted a company
because then it also sets a bad standard
for your CMO your CEO your CFO now all
of a sudden other people are like what
how how is that person here getting paid
right now that person didn't get
compensated by house hack one dime so
it's not like a cost to house hack which
is good
so uh but but it you know I mean that's
just the nature of having a business
right so really we've got this this
fractional payroll and the Beautiful
Thing is we're going to be putting a lot
of uh the cash that we have into
treasury soon once we get to 25 million
in wires now this is where a little bit
I want to be transparent with some of
the the uh you know things that have
come up
September was really great we launched
uh somewhere around September 10th I
think it was something like that and uh
we raised over a million dollars a day
in commitments uh and now we're at about
29 million in commitments we're almost
at 25 million in wires which is great
because once we unlock the 25 million
wires we're going to be able to uh Park
that money into six to 12 month
treasuries we can't do it until we hit
25 million in wires because that's what
we committed to people in the purchase
or the private placement memorandum at
househack.com
you could read that you can you can join
the investment there and you get founder
shares remember there's there's no
dilution you up front you get you get
founding shares in the company so you
get the same sort of shares that I get
that I'm buying uh I'm almost saying one
million dollars myself and that's going
to grow uh as time goes on here and uh
you know again in the future and this is
the beautiful thing I think about this
company and it's it's all being based on
why I want to make sure early investors
are so well rewarded because my
reputation's on this right I want early
investors to be like oh my gosh I can't
believe I made so much money with Kevin
I wish I invested more so that way when
in the future I'm like hey I got another
you know fund race for house hack or
whatever people like yes like I don't
even need to know why or what just yes
like that's the goal in the future right
so I really have to take care of these
first people and that's why we're doing
founder shares no dilution up front and
uh we'll talk about on non-accredited
investors in just a moment
uh yeah and again the only dilution will
be in the future after IPO uh with
strict lock up some form of stock based
comp but again I say that not like it's
dilutive to today's valuation because
it's not because every company has stock
based comp so you know it's it's it's
like they're two separate things but
anyway I know that that's confusing for
some folks but dilution is really a
toxic thing I mean people people raise
you know things at a billion I think
like boxable as like a two or three
billion dollar valuation but they've
raised like 200 million dollars I'm like
oh my gosh the poor investors who are
going into that are getting deluded so
terribly but that's that's the way it
works anyway so uh the the problem
that's come up is we have these
deadlines at the end of each month we
have a deadline in terms of how much in
uh basically call options you get so
here's how that works they're
technically called warrants because call
options are on the market warrants are
are done with a company
if you invest a hundred thousand dollars
into house hack by October 31st and your
course member at some point in the
future probably in like 2024 we can call
you up and go hey you can contribute
another 60 or 60 000 in that case at the
day one valuation so that means we're
already buying real estate we already
have rental properties our valuation is
going to be higher but you can
contribute another 60 Grand at the day
one valuation
now some folks are like wait a minute
Kevin isn't that dilutive technically no
because for example if you contributed a
million dollars and we raised a hundred
million dollars you have uh well one
percent ownership of a hundred million
dollars or one million dollars
if we then raise an extra 50 million
dollars well then technically your
ownership share goes down to like point
six seven percent but that still
represents one million dollars in value
right 0.67 times 150 it's still going to
be one million dollars and that's the
beautiful thing about this let's do a
quick little fact check on my math there
1 million divided by uh 150 million yeah
0.67 exactly so so the cool thing about
that though is it gives house hack
another opportunity to raise more cash
so we can go buy more deals at what we
think will still be the bottom of the
market and it again rewards early
investors
and so we have a deadline at the end of
every single month at the end of
September we had a deadline where you
could get up to 65 percent of these up
these warrants options basically and
they're free right they don't cost you
anything to have these which is great UH
60 at the end of October 31st so as long
as you sign your subscription agreement
by the end of October 31st and you wire
by the end of the first business week of
November you're in at 60 percent
uh if you wire by the end of December uh
or I'm Sorry by the end of November 30
well 30th that would be if you sign by
the end of November it'll be down
another 10 by December the end of
December it'll be down another 10
percent
and probably by the time we do the
non-accredited round the opportunity to
get warrants will be pretty low or zero
uh but at this point it looks like
because the accredited the non uh the
process for non-accredited investors is
going relatively fast it looks like we
might be able to get non-accredited
investors in at the founder evaluation
the minimum investment for
non-accredited investors will probably
be twenty thousand dollars unless you're
a course member and then the minimum
investment will be five thousand dollars
that's what we're tentatively writing uh
which is really cool so that way you
don't have to be accredited but
obviously if you're accredited and you
sign now you get more options so it all
sort of depends on on when that the SEC
approves our non-accredited route but
we're working on that and so the goal
really is uh oh yeah well the downside
the downside is we had a really great
run going up to the end of September
because the people who wanted to invest
invested to get those options
but it's really slowed down in October
and that's I think because we kind of
hit a pull forward a pull forward is
kind of like when you have a Black
Friday sales event and so many people
buy or so many people fund right then
like the the first couple weeks of
December your sales are like really low
because everybody was going to buy
already did during that sale and it's
like the pull forward is like a painful
moment
kind of like a pull forward that you see
with like solar panels right before
December 31st everybody wants to spend
their money to get their tax credit
right before the end of the year and
then sales plummet in January super
super typical we're feeling that right
now so additional commitments have
slowed down a lot now that's not
necessarily a bad thing because the
company is going to happen like we will
be having house hack and it's actually
it almost makes it easier for me to have
less money because I I feel like I can
and no guarantees okay now just I'm just
hypothetically speculating here if if I
have
25 or 30 let's say I have 30 million
dollars right and it gives me about a
hundred million dollars of purchasing
power for Real Estate uh I could
probably you know 5x the value of that
company quicker than I could 5x the
value of the company if I had uh you
know 500 million dollars and and uh of
cash and you know maybe 1.5 or or closer
to two billion dollars of purchasing
power just because it's going to take
longer to get that much kind of staff
I personally think a real good Target
though for us by March is to be really
somewhere around uh 50 to 150 million
dollars raised so for example I mean if
we get to 75 million dollars by let's
say February 28th and then we do our
non-accredited round and we do another
75 that's 150. that's good we don't need
more than that but the company is
valuable already at at 30 million
dollars which is roughly the amount of
commitments we have so we're viable
we're great and we're just in our first
we just passed our first first month of
fundraising but that does mean there was
a deadline coming up here at the end of
October for if you are an investor and
you want to come in Now's the Time to
get your letter from
househack.investready.com get your
accredited investor letter and uh sign
the subscription agreement if you have
questions email us at ir househack.com
and join if you're non-accredited stand
by for the beginning of next year which
will be very exciting and uh yeah we're
super excited it's everything is is
honestly going way better than I
expected and if you think about it we're
like at the bottom of the market I mean
I have a lot of investors sending us
emails and stuff saying look dude Tesla
stock is down right now we're just gonna
wait until task stock is up more and
we'll just have to sit out on some of
those options
so I mean we have multi-millions of
dollars of commitments from from Tesla
investors but they're like we're just
going to wait a little bit for Tesla to
rebound a little bit or have a euphoric
Rally or something I don't blame them
anyway go to house act on
investready.com to get accredited go to
househack.com to upload your letter and
folks hope you appreciated the update
leave questions in Discord at
metcaven.com chat and I'll personally
reply under the seed company
Discord channels thanks bye
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