The Tesla Stock Explosion.
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wow Tesla blew it out of the park with
manufactured vehicles in China 66 051
manufactured vehicles in China up 18.4
percent from December byd still beat
Tesla though shipping
150
164 vehicles but remember byd ships a
vehicle that is about a half as
expensive and only about half of their
vehicles are actually fully electric uh
you've got a lot of hybrids in there and
still a lot of traditional ice Vehicles
the overall passenger uh vehicle Market
in China is sitting at about 1.24
million cars uh produced production is
expected to ramp back up in China as
about 80 percent according to the
economist of Chinese have been exposed
to or have caught covid and folks are
expecting to be well back to work uh the
current targets for production in at
Gago Shanghai at Tesla are somewhere
around 20 000 units a week starting in
late February or March Lee
Otto xping emoters and Neo all had
monthly and year-over-year declines uh
in in sales uh and I that might be
because Tesla's price cuts are putting
substantially heavy pressure on other
manufacturers which are not profitable
or are barely profitable now I got a lot
of heat when I started talking about
this on tick tock on Tick Tock I made a
video talking about how rivian from a
gross profit point of view takes or it
costs rivian 271 bucks to generate 100
bucks of Revenue that's disgusting from
a gross profit point of view that
basically means you've got about 1500
bucks being spent to make somewhere
around like 580 bucks rough math okay
it's insane how much money they spent
just on a gross profit point of view
don't even look at net income because
you know rivian's losing money like
crazy Tesla on the other hand right now
when they bring in 100 bucks of revenues
looking at somewhere around twenty
dollars of uh 20 to 25 dollars of gross
margin and maybe around fifteen to
Seventeen percent of net uh and that
depends on how conservative you want to
be on the estimates right technically in
the last quarter we were closer to a
gross margin of 25 but we've gotten some
heads up warnings that we expect that to
compress a little bit but the point is
Tesla is wildly profitable while other
companies are not byd bringing down
about a buck 40 to the bottom line and
their earnings relative to Tesla as
we've said somewhere around 17 to 20
bucks it's insane now I got in a little
bit of heat on Tick Tock for rivian
because people like oh well when rivien
was small and just doing 7 000 vehicles
or when Tesla was small just doing seven
thousand Vehicles they were losing money
too and then what I did is I went back
to the 2014 number which roughly aligned
Tesla sold and manufactured around 7 300
vehicles and rivien did about seven
thousand six hundred seven thousand
seven hundred in the last quarter so
when you align that you're like okay
they're roughly a similar manufacturing
stage well we already know that rivian's
gross from profit margin is an abject
failure are you looking again at
spending 271 bucks per 100 of Revenue
gross I'm not talking Opex here I'm not
talking about advertising or SG you know
SG uh selling in general administrative
expenses or research and development I'm
not talking about your Opex I'm talking
about gross profit abject failure gross
profit well if you look at Tesla back in
2014 when they were manufacturing just
as many vehicles as rivian was guess
what their gross profit was then
remember rivian right now negative 271
per 100 bucks Tesla per 100 bucks still
bringing 20 bucks to the bottom line in
2014. so I made a follow-up take talk
talking about that and guess what the
morons in the comments said then oh sure
pick the quarter where that makes sense
and I'm like you I picked the
quarter where the production aligned
relative to the most recent quarter for
rivian it's like some of these people
have their heads so far up their own
behinds I think they're just blind bag
holders who don't understand the basic
premises of fundamental analysis people
don't get it I look if you are an
investor you should so Crystal clearly
be able to divide fundamentals from
technicals and if you don't understand
the differences you should probably not
be investing in stocks start with
something easy like real estate even
though the irony is probably at least
half of you don't actually own real
estate but that's okay because I think
when you watch my channel eventually
you're going to get convinced by real
estate not for me it's not like I'm
trying to earn a commission off you but
because I think that's actually going to
help you substantially catapult your
wealth unless of course you already have
a net worth of over a million bucks
so with that said I think smart people
realize that why did Tesla have this
horrible price uh a correction last year
nothing to do with fundamentals or maybe
nominally the biggest thing was was the
easiest Trend ever to short because Elon
was selling like crazy thanks to Twitter
and there was no end in sight in terms
of how many Tesla shares Elon was going
to dump just to fund Twitter
so the easiest short hour the technical
from the technical point of view once
you start the short Trend guess what
happens the Algos and the institutional
hedge funds managing those Algos they
come out not even just the hedge funds
all the institutions they come out and
go easy short oh okay going into
recession what should we do oh okay
y'all let's go buy uh Costco and
McDonald's which are you know like
McDonald's is an abject joke as well to
be investing in but it's performed a lot
better year over year than Tesla why
because oh yo technicals say let's go in
a recession from growth to Staples and
then eventually we'll go it's very
simple okay it's so that way when they
answer the phone to their complaining
customers about us going into a
recession the pension fund managers the
hedge fund managers the institutions the
banks the Morgan stanleys whatever able
to go ah don't worry we're going into a
recession we have moved from growth to
Staples because obviously you still have
to buy toothpaste in a recession right
oh yeah that makes sense it's so dumb it
is so dumb in the short term the kind of
technical movements that you get in the
stock market the good news is in the
long term the fundamentals tend to shine
through much kind of like we just heard
two nearly two years later after the
April of 2021 fatal crash in Texas where
two dudes launched a Model S on a small
roadway hit a turn took the turn too
fast car drives into a tree burst into
flames what happens after it bursts into
flames the dude in the front climbs to
the back because the car catches fire in
the front who knows what happened if he
was injured or whatever couldn't get out
both of them died which is terrible
turns out the guy was drunk while he was
driving and I don't mean like you had a
beer like eight hours ago the guy tested
twice the legal limit that's that's deep
okay that's really drunk I mean look
this is not to at all justify like no
nobody should ever drink after having
alcohol right uh but let's just be real
I would venture to say 80 of adult
drivers who are not Mormons or who don't
otherwise just not drink have probably
had a beer or a glass of wine at a
dinner somewhere and then have driven at
some point thereafter okay but this guy
was this was much more it's twice the
legal limit you're talking about like
probably six to nine shots of alcohol
for a dude okay to be twice the legal
limit I mean you are plaster to be twice
the legal limit you probably couldn't
even walk at all if you wanted to uh
okay maybe even not that extreme but but
it's it's gonna you're gonna have a
hangover the next day let's put it this
way anyway so anyway the guy's drunk
drives into the tree you think burst in
the Flames they die the big media story
that comes out around it is Tesla
crashes into train bursts into flames no
one is in the driver's seat must have
been the guy showing off autopilot and
because the guy showed off autopilot and
autopilot failed clearly these poor
people died thanks to Elon musk's
autopilot that was literally the news
story two years ago you had scumbags
like the LA Times say Where are The
Regulators why are cars allowed to drive
themselves with nobody in the passenger
seat which I just said a lot of things
so let's unpackage that for a moment I
had an hour and a half long interview
with the editorial Board of the Los
Angeles times when I ran for governor
and guess what all it was was a
90-minute opportunity to find any
opportunity to write a hit piece on me
so they could prop Gavin Newsom up on
the pedestal there was a zero abject
interest and actually understanding the
perspectives that I was sharing scumbags
don't like that it's rude and it's wrong
it's not what consumers and voters in
California deserved but that's the
mainstream media for you they got to
keep stroking the guy in charge so that
way they get invited to his press
conferences it's ridiculous
okay the LA Times allegation out of the
way let's go back to what they wrote so
what did they wrote or what what are the
mainstream media right oh where are The
Regulators where are The Regulators
Tesla crashes into tree people dying in
Flames where are The Regulators oh wait
what comes out now oh wow uh no
self-driving uh or any autopilot
features were actually enabled the car
crashed without any
automated or Adas support systems
activated finally we find that out two
years later but that's after the story
already broke that's sad but not only is
that sad
you have no one well with the exception
of some folks on Twitter doing doing uh
you know God's work so to speak uh you
have nobody uh no no mainstream media
admitting uh the disgustingness of their
headlines suggesting that without any
conclusion oh okay well because the guy
was found in the back it must have been
autopilot even though that's not how
autopilot works like you have to you
have to somehow be able to engage the
steering wheel to actually be able to
function on autopilot
mainstream media doesn't want to take
the L for it because it's embarrassing
anyway here you go NTSB reports uh in a
report released Wednesday showed
evidence indicated that the driver of
the Tesla Model S hadn't engaged any of
the Adas features before crashing in
Houston in April of 2021 two cars
occupants died initially a local
Constable said he believed the model S
had operated without anyone in the
driver's seat when he crashed into a
tree but that was also very quickly
dispelled because the fire department
realized wait a minute the steering
wheel is damaged implying the person
wasn't wearing a seat belt true with the
seat belt uh but anyway uh they the
damage on the steering wheel implied
that when the impact happened the person
probably hit their head on the steering
wheel which is pretty crappy uh but uh
but anyway
here's just another sort of um
finally after two years finally some
relief and justification showing that
Tesla once again was not at fault but
that that doesn't make for a good media
story uh anyway now it's worth looking
just briefly since we've gotten over
some of the anger around Tesla and the
mainstream media it's worth looking a
little bit at the fundamentals because
yes Tesla has officially broke 200 or
now one of the things that is
fascinating is myself and the team just
a few days ago when we were in the race
for uh you know to see if we could hit
200 before the expiration of the coupon
code for the programs on building your
wealth uh which which
um uh you know we just hit 200 but
anyway we were talking about this belief
that we have that once Tesla breaks 200
uh it would probably rip past 200 and in
pre-market right now it's sitting at
208. I think today will be the test to
see now that we have officially closed
past 200 yesterday at 20129 will we rip
past 200 uh that is just a belief that
we have as it's bounced basically
straight up off of this Fibonacci curve
uh and so we'll keep an eye on it in the
past Tesla used to have these like 27 to
30ish day runs of uh the stock market
being open what does that put us at now
one two three four five six seven eight
nine 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22. hey based on uh old school history
we should have at least another five
days
which is interesting because you've got
CPI coming up next week but anyway let's
look at some fundies for a moment so
going back to fundies I haven't really
changed anything here I'm taking about a
10 take rate on FSD which is extremely
low but I'm doing that on purpose uh on
the 10 take rate on FSD for 15K because
there is the monthly software as a
service option where basically you can
pay a monthly fee for FSD and so I'm
lowering the cash that goes into Tesla
basically right out of the gate for uh
2025. my 2025 projection is a million
Vehicles fewer than what Kathy Wood is
projecting although she's got some
pretty uh pretty ambitious targets let's
just say there's no shade on Kathy okay
I love Kathy I think she's a brilliant
marketer uh but but I think some of the
numbers are too ambitious but that's
okay maybe I'm just being a little bit
more conservative and that's okay
everybody can have a different point of
view Revenue per vehicle I'm at about 47
000. I think she's right around 46 000
so we're pretty close on that but anyway
I put in about a 10 from FSD I don't put
in any revenue for Insurance semis Tesla
bot Auto taxis or or you know
self-driving taxis I don't put anything
in for that I do put in about 10 for
services which mostly gets costed out
because the margin's very low on
Services although it's finally going
positive uh and uh for for energy I just
put in basically one percent of total
sales uh represented by about energy
which could end up being low if I go
with like a terribly low margin of 80
which we should not be at a 20 gross
profit margin in 2025 we should
realistically be back at 25 so we'll
change that number in a moment but if we
leave it at 80 percent uh you're looking
at a future price Target based on a PEG
ratio of 1.67 at 30 percent assumed EPS
growth so if you think EPS is growing at
30 in 2025 six seven eight then then and
then you assign a 1.6 Peg very very
traditional very normal you should be at
at least 400 bucks uh in 2025. now if I
change this margin
to uh 75 so a 25 gross margin you can
see that quickly jumps to 511. uh so
somewhere between 400 and 511 by 2025
seems very reasonable but one of the
downsides though is that the present
value has been skyrocketing that is the
ironic downside of the price going up is
that your rate of return now on Tesla
from what I've been previously making
these videos is has dropped almost in
half uh it's dropped almost in half
because the price is so much higher now
now don't get me wrong it's still a
phenomenal number even in in the uh
worse worse ER case scenario I don't
think that's a word uh but even if at
the 399 price target for 2025 you're
looking at uh somewhere around a 24
compounded annual rate of return now
keep in mind while I think what I'm
talking about is financial and some
people may see some of this as advice I
want to be very clear I I'm not giving
you personal advice okay I think I
provide great advice on the channel but
I'm not providing personalized advice I
am a financial advisor but that's a very
important difference is I'm not
providing anyone anyone I don't do it
personalized advice I don't look at what
the heck is going on in your world and
your portfolio and go you should
rebalance this to this okay that should
be obvious okay uh but anyway some
people don't recognize that that's
obvious so anyway uh but I think this is
this is still very very good this is
where the worst case scenario number
here 24 year over year uh but however uh
Tesla's going to get to the point where
where this is going to start looking
less attractive right let's say this
gets to 350 this year right so say Tesla
runs to 350 this year all of a sudden in
your more worst case scenario you're
only looking at a four percent
compounded annual rate of return at that
point it makes sense to just dump
everything and go all in on house hack
for me not personalized Financial advice
just saying now if if I go with a a
different margin and I go a little bit
let me go more ambitious here okay let
me go 30 to see opportunity cost fomo
wise what you would then potentially
miss out on go back to a 30 gross margin
potentially now you could be at a future
value of 623 right and so you're you're
compounded anywhere in return would then
be 21 so my expectation would have to be
greater than that for investing in
something else
which I think could be reasonable
especially since that is that is
probably a little bit more hopium maybe
you're closer to that 25 level it's
about a 13 annual compounded rate of
return for about three years so anyway
depending on how you play the numbers uh
should in my opinion guide your your
investing thesis and your plans for the
for the company and for your Investments
obviously I think that fundamentals are
the most important thing when it comes
to investing uh and uh let me give you
another a brief brief example okay when
it comes to growth rates because this is
very important uh some folks asked me
yesterday they're like heaven you know
end face had these great numbers why did
it sell down and I I think people don't
you know objectively really look at the
fundamentals I think generally people on
the internet uh look at the headlines
and then when they look at the headlines
they what make a conclusion based on
those and don't actually pull up the
financials so I was asking and this is
this is valuable for Tesla as well okay
so I was asked yesterday hey what's
going on with end face so I tweeted this
uh you just follow me totally for free
at realme Kevin over here right why is
end face plummeting after great earnings
with a quadruple beat Top Line bottom
line margin and guidance that's quad
beat okay simple well
I wrote after hours trading is often low
liquidity and undereducated training
headline reading not fundamentals that's
because after hours end phase was up
like 10 percent
but what did end face close at yesterday
well end face closed like down four
percent yesterday
so why is after hours so different from
when the market is actually open oh wow
surprise surprise because you actually
have people with you know Big Boy money
uh making decisions based often on
fundamentals but not always uh could be
based on technicals right but anyway
here are the problems what the fundies
show
you have a company whose growth rate
used to be thirty percent a quarter
twenty percent a quarter fourteen
percent a quarter and you ended with 724
million dollars of Revenue in the fourth
quarter of uh 2022. the projected
revenue is expected to be 720 for the
first quarter that's the midpoint could
be higher could be a little lower well
that represents a negative growth rate
quarter over quarter and we understand
there's a massive seasonal difference
between going from Q4 to q1 but
especially in the Solar world but at the
same time your costs are going up by
somewhere around 1500 basis points and
you're expecting a lower gross profit
so all of a sudden you have a company
that's growing like crazy not growing
like crazy anymore and this is where if
you go back to the Tesla fundies and you
look over here and you go well if if the
growth rate it falls from 30 on earnings
per share and let's say that growth rate
just uh I don't know let's say it goes
down to 10 okay well 10 times 1.67 means
you should only be trading for about a
16.7 times p e ratio which that brings
your your price that you're you're able
to pay for the company to 170 bucks
which means you should sell it today
right but nobody actually believes that
Tesla's only going to grow at 10 on an
earnings per share basis for the rest of
the decade that'd be crazy if you
believe that do not invest in Tesla
right so that that's the point of having
some form of stable PEG ratio 1.67 which
then you adjust based on EPS to find out
what kind of multiple you should be
using for the company you know the
reason you have companies like Ford and
GM selling for these incredibly low
multiples is because their growth is
like nothing or negative or because the
CEO of Ford is a complete idiot well
maybe I shouldn't say he's a completely
idiot well let's just put it this way I
tweeted the other day and again another
reason you should follow me at realme
Kevin on Twitter doesn't cost you
anything follow me over there uh but I
tweeted the other day this uh this clip
of a Ford CEO Jim Farley on the earnings
call and I was so blown away because
he's bragging about how they're going to
make lots of money going forward that's
that's what he was bragging about how
are we going to make lots of money going
forward uh in uh in basically uh
automotive and he's asked by an analyst
hey do you think you could get to a 20
gross margin which is Tesla's worst case
scenario by the way right in other words
an analyst is going to forward and going
yo do you think you could make it to
Tesla's worst case scenario
and the CEO has the following to say
about getting to the worst case scenario
basically he starts off by saying well
no basically not on the car because
we're still figuring out the
manufacturing process even though we've
been manufacturing for over 100 years we
can't figure out how to make an electric
vehicle profitable and we probably won't
be profitable on electric vehicles until
2026 but here is where we can make real
money okay this was just embarrassing
even the way he said it okay ready for
this listen to this not our batteries
not the EV platforms but our new fully
updatable electric architecture because
what we've learned on Pro is we can make
real money on software did you hear that
we can make real money on software I
mean first of all it sounds extremely
creepy the way he said it uh but but
it's because they're sucking it's insane
and sure Mr Steve look you know what I
appreciate you Mr Steve Mr Steve here
says and look look we love Steve he's a
course member Steve and I we're gonna
have great beer together one day uh when
my plane is back to Flying because it's
going under a war it's under a warranty
upgrade right now we're gonna do great
stuff uh Steve here says GM is securing
the battery supplies needed Tesla's
liking that that's fantastic
and so is Ford Ford is also securing the
supplies that they need to be able to
make the vehicles that they need for the
year Ford said exactly the same thing
that does not make them profitable
though on EVS GM won't segment out their
EVs and their EV profitability because
they're not profitable so you can secure
the supply chains all you want uh I'd
rather I'd support your argument in
saying that EV Supply chains are
probably going to have more of an issue
right
but uh that doesn't mean you're actually
going to be profitable and this idea
that Ford's manufacturing quality is
better than Tesla I mean this is like an
age-old argument uh Tesla has panel gaps
and stuff like that let's talk about
Ford's manufacturing though but you know
what rather than me make an argument uh
about Ford's manufacturing potential and
quality or whatever let's just look at
what Ford's CEO said about their quality
here okay
uh so uh let's see here okay here we go
the real future profitability on uh EVS
is basically what they call second Cycle
Products this basically means we suck at
manufacturing EVs and once we figure out
what we're doing wrong then we'll be
able to finally be profitable maybe keep
in mind and you can just Google this
nobody expects Ford to be profitable on
EVS until 2026. that's three years from
now potentially three and a half years
from now if you look at the end of the
year or would be like 3.75 but anyway
we didn't know when we designed our
first electric vehicles that we had
basically wiring for our cars
that was one mile or 1.6 kilometers
longer than it needed to be
we didn't know that it's 75 pounds
heavier than it needed to be we didn't
know that we under invested in braking
technology oh that sounds fantastic so
look I get it manufacturing is an
iterative process but you're taking an
old dog and you're trying to teach them
new tricks uh look don't get me wrong
some of the old school Fords were great
uh uh I should I wish I could find that
anecdote maybe I could find it really
quick there was an anecdote yesterday
and I realized it's an anecdote so it's
not uh it's you know certainly not
something that we could say is is a is a
fact right now but let's look at four
recalls there was this dealer
who yesterday on Twitter was uh
complaining about Ford's quality and
again I realized this is an anecdote
okay I hate it when people do that in
politics and they don't flag that it's
an anecdote where they're like oh well
this is how it is because so and so says
so it's like well it's an anecdote okay
it's an antidote but it's just something
to pay attention to so uh a car
dealership guy great guy you should
follow him uh oh I don't know why I'm
not following him there we go I followed
him but anyway car dealership guy great
guy uh hey he follows me uh anyway so uh
he here he writes Ford dealer unhappy
with Ford in 2012 Ford had 1.1 million
recalls in 2022 Ford had 9.8 million
recalls Ford should only have one goal
to build the best quality car in the
world word of mouth would sell it not
rebates and not advertising in my entire
career the quality can't be any worse
and we are told it is now being
addressed why wasn't it addressed 10
years ago and he talks about the stat we
just talked about blah blah blah I don't
know I don't know again like you know I
don't want to come across as cherry
picking I don't think the car dealership
guy is like abjectly like you know only
for Tesla he writes some pretty neat
things as well about uh about like
carvana he pays a lot of attention to
what's going on with carvana uh car
auctions and session we'll talk about
this a little bit more later uh so I I
think he's worth the follow-up
um you know I'm trying to I'm trying to
get him to do an interview so we could
get a face reveal but but he thinks that
uh face reveal would end up hurting his
ability to have people actually want to
follow him
um so I I don't know I love the
self-deprecating humor but uh uh you
know anyway so
that is my thesis my thesis on uh Tesla
no Steve I'm sorry I'm sorry okay
Steve's like haha I just got wrecked no
no I'm sorry Steve okay okay like again
it's an anecdote maybe that's not
actually what's happening I don't know
right it's just something we want to pay
attention to uh and and I guess the way
I look at it is the frustration that I
see by the CEO in the earnings call kind
of reiterates a little bit of some of
the issues that they have here right uh
and and this this uh this idea that uh
you know they won't they don't even
expect themselves to be profitable I
think in the long term that's more
important I think ultimately companies
will probably get to the bottom of their
quality issues but who knows maybe not
anyway uh that's my take on Tesla
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