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I'm Very Concerned about Tesla Stock.

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I hate to say it but I'm concerned about

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Tesla very concerned I'm going to give

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you my thoughts in this video and uh

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just because I'm coming across as a

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dirty ugly nasty gross bare

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flip-flopper I'll go ahead and put it

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on all right folks I'm concerned and I'm

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going to go through these concerns one

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by one let's start first first I'm

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concerned that uh Elon musk's Q2 push to

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generate an incredible quarter 2 to

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maximize his stock comp artificially

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reduced interest rates at Tesla and

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pulled substantial Tesla demand forward

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this will make it harder for us to prove

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to Wall Street that we justify the

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valuation that we have today there's

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much more to this we're going to hit

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Robo taxi we're going to hit Optimus

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we're going to hit energy we're going to

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hit a lot of research here so buckle

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up 99% in May

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in my opinion probably pushed anyone on

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the edge of wanting to buy a Tesla into

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to buying a Tesla the problem is now

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we're finding that 50% of buyers who

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have owned a Tesla and then end up

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selling that Tesla this is uh research

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via Edmonds end up going back to

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purchasing an ice vehicle this is a

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little bit problematic because that

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aligns with research that suggests the

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first phase of Enthusiast electric

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vehicle buyers are very different from

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the next phase of electric vehicle

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buyers you have sort of the first 10 to

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15% of electric vehicle buyers who say

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yes I want to own an EV it's sustainable

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it's fast it's wonderful the control is

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better the traction is better everything

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about it is cleaner the maintenance is

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better I love it I am one of those

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people but the problem is the other 85%

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of Americans have mostly unfounded

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concerns but they have concerns whether

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it's range anxiety

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fires Elon Musk whatever it might be and

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that makes the next phase of

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unfortunately Eevee adoption harder but

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it's also resale value a lot of people

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look at buying let's say a Toyota or a

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hybrid or another vehicle and they look

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at resale values and they see hm used

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vehicles dropped on average 6%

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year-over-year

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for typical ice Vehicles it's actually

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6.8% I thought it'd be funny if it was 6

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9 but it wasn't it was 6.8%

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unfortunately electric vehicles in the

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last 2 years are down 39% in the last

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year they're down 21% which is roughly

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three times the depreciation of

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non-electric vehicles that makes it

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really hard to sell new electric

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vehicles when people are basically

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buying into a sinking

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ship that's not good you want to sell a

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product that seems like it would at

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least hold up its resale value like FSD

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should hold up its resale value but it

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probably doesn't and frankly they should

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in my opinion I've made this clear many

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times already they should really be

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plummeting the price of full

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self-driving to really motivate growth

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because Wall Street will reward growth

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even if margins are slightly lower we

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want the network effects of more Tesla

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which then drives people to more energy

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which in the future drives people to

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more Optimus which in the future drives

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people to more Tesla Robo taxi through

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the Tesla app you want the network

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effects you want more people in Tesla

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you want expanding factories so get

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people to buy Teslas but

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unfortunately you know that's not what

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Tesla's doing at the moment instead

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we've positioned at Tesla for f quite

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frankly low growth fired a substantial

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amount of service and sales reps limited

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the expansion uh for our existing

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capacity at Giga Texas or elsewhere this

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is obviously for vehicles because

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frankly our growth rate is petering now

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let's understand this before we talk

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valuation and growth rates and pegs yes

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Shanghai shipments are doing very well

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they're up 15% year-over-year and so

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it's not all bad news it's worth noting

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as well that lithium prices are

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plummeting even though commodity prices

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have started recently Rising we contined

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to see lithium prices fall and this is a

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really good thing because even though

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commodity prices are up about 3 or 4% we

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haven't actually seen a bottom yet in

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lithium prices and this really helps us

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with margin as we can manufacture those

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batteries less expensively or quite

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frankly just buy them from catl less

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expensively depending on which batteries

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we're talking cybertruck 4680 is or the

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LiPO batteries but before we hit more

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good we got to understand where we sit

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in terms of valuation and positioning

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right now Wall Street consensus

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estimates for 2025 forward growth for

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the next 4 years on Revenue average

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18.9% that's actually surprisingly low

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considering the enthusiasm for Tesla

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energy so I thought to myself man Tesla

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energy is blowing up why is revenue

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guide only

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18.9% for consensus and then I looked at

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EPS guide earnings per share that's

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bottom line and that guide is

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33.8% which is substantially better it's

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like 50% better than Topline Revenue

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guide and so I thought why is revenue

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growing at 18.9 and earnings per share

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expected to grow by 50% more

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33.8% well it's because Wall Street is

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already pricing in energy growth because

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frankly Wall Street is looking at the

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vehicle business as one that's petered

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out in terms of growth and yes that

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spectacular mega pack and home battery

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high margin energy business is growing

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but that's the only thing actually

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contributing to the EPS valuation that's

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all already being priced into Wall

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Street consensus estimates keep in mind

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Optimus doesn't really get much in way

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of consensus estimates because we don't

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really actually expect frankly Optimus

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to be commercially viable to the point

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where it provides a positive return on

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your investment in an Optimus probably

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for another 3 or four years or more and

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there is a lot of robot competition it's

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not like this is you know the only robot

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out there with full self-driving kind of

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like the Tesla car in 2017 to really now

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was

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it's frankly that oh oopsy doopsy we

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actually have a product that will

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probably end up becoming a commodity a

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commoditized robot which so you know I'm

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not very optimistic about at least today

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pricing an Optimus unless I could see

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that we're way ahead of the competition

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with Optimus do keep in mind I do

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believe that Tesla has phenomenal

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manufacturing progress but you know so

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do other countries okay China not to

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mentioning names or even Taiwan okay

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there's a lot of competition for this

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but consider this at today's price let's

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just go ahead and take roughly

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$210 uh and go ahead and divide that by

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the earnings per share we're expecting

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of $232 for the year end we're sitting

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at about a 90.5 PE ratio that's really

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high that's a

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2.67 Peg going forward four years and I

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personally think for a manufacturing

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company we should be closer to

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1.67 keep in mind Tesla doesn't just

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design the vehicles they also Manu

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facture the vehicles this is different

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than Nvidia or a software company a

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software company or a designer of chips

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could justify a higher PEG ratio because

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they don't have the burdens of

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manufacturing especially in a recession

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manufacturing is extremely Capital

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intensive which means I don't really

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love it but that's why I give it a 1.67

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peg which if we sat at a 167 Peg today

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unfortunately a 167 Peg today is only

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going to give us a valuation of this

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sounds terrible $131 right now which

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unfortunately means we have a downside

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of somewhere around 79 bucks at today's

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valuations if we wanted to align with

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that Peg now then if we go forward and

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say but Kevin let's go ahead and use

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next year's earnings per share because

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maybe this year's EPS is bad or whatever

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we want to say okay so then let's go

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with next year's consensus and go with

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$316

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at a 1.67 peg at

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$316 unfortunately we're still a stock

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that is worth less than

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$180 which represents still a 14%

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downside not as bad as the 37% downside

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I just talked about but still a downside

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making the risk reward for investing in

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Tesla right now at these levels

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relatively low for me now I know this is

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where then people say but Kevin you said

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buy at low volatility at the beginning

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of June and this is is true this is

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exactly what I did the research that I

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found said that historically when

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Tesla's volatility has fallen to the low

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it did which was under a historic V of

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17 on the 10day Tesla tends to move up

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1.49% per day for the next 45 days what

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actually happened was Tesla Rose 47%

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from my pitch of low volatility to both

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course members and people on the channel

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you can go back and watch it the video

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is still there and we rose that level in

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32 days before before we peaked out

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thanks to Elon delaying the 88 event

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which represented our Peak that meant we

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actually got a

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1.47% return per calendar day

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unfortunately then I suggested since we

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were delaying the 88 event and we were

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going to be closer to having to price in

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Q3 and Q4 pain which are the quarters

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that unfortunately we're going to have

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to deal with higher capex uh since we

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had low capex in Q2 and potentially not

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great growth rates on well

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sales and a potentially negative

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year-over-year deliveries count which is

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the current consensus estimate and even

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Troy Tesla like thinks we're sitting

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around that level as well I'm not very

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enthused about Q3 Q4 especially since if

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you add to that valuation pressure the

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capex increase the deliveries challenges

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you add in election risk and you add in

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Federal Reserve risk a 25 basis point

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cut just isn't going to do much for

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Tesla because they're already

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advertising lower rates you're not going

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to get more demand when Tesla or when um

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the Federal Reserve Cuts rates 25 or 50

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basis points you're going to get maybe

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slightly higher margins for Tesla but

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that doesn't create more sales and we

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need to network effects of sales here so

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it's not a surprise to me that you have

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companies like Morgan Stanley cutting

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Tesla now due to a quote continued

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slowdown in the Auto industry intense

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competition amongst electric vehicle

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manufacturers and reduced consumer

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preferences for electric vehicles and

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this is where I'd like to just bring up

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that I'm kind of concerned that Tesla

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keeps trying to dangle this carrot in

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front of our face that says hey but

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don't worry we'll be able to license

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full self-driving to other companies

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honestly the fact that the Cyber truck

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has been out for many months now and the

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cyberu Cyber truck still does not have

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full self-driving to me indicates that

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no full self driving is not portable to

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different types of vehicles

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and that makes me very very sad now yes

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maybe the Cyber truck is just a niche

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product and so they're not prioritizing

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it which also makes me sad because I

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really want to love the cybertruck but

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let's just be real if we can't even get

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FSD for the Cyber truck what makes any

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of us believe that we're actually going

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to get full self-driving for some other

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company be it a Ford or a GM or

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otherwise especially when you have

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people like Jim Farley saying hey whoa

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whoa hey you know we can make a lot of

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money in software so why don't we do our

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own software yeah that's where the money

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is okay so now the

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more advances occur in artificial

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intelligence-based chips like a

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Blackwell when that eventually comes out

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for NVIDIA I'm not too optimistic about

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earnings but that's really a topic for a

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different video when that eventually

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comes out it becomes easier for people

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to come up with their own artificial

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intelligence technology maybe using the

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Nvidia Orin Drive platform people can

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basically make their own full

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self-driving what you've really done is

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you've narrowed Tesla's moat from maybe

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a 5-year moat to a 2-year moat and

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honestly the better chip technology gets

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the more that moat compresses and

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compresses and compresses so in the face

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of valuation this High valuation going

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into Q3 Q4 going into election and

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recession fears I am more concerned for

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Tesla than I ever have been before it's

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also worth noting that I have previously

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said that I thought that Tesla would be

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recession resilient and I believe that

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it would have been 2022 recession

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resilient which is when you have white

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collar workers who still have their jobs

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and they're not losing their jobs and

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they're not going BK because well

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they're losing their jobs uh I think

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people in 2022 would have had plenty of

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excess cash and the white collar workers

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would have had their jobs they would

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have been able to continue to buy Teslas

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and instead they would have been able to

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do so in a recession at super low

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interest rates and so you would have

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driven up demand I was pretty optimistic

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about that form of recession resilience

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unfortunately this type of recession

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that we might be facing is a lot nastier

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the recession that we might be facing

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right now is a recession that says oh no

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what happens when all of a sudden white

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collar workers are the ones losing their

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jobs and they can't afford Teslas

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anymore and then all of a sudden at the

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same time you get consumer preferences

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that change and you get an Elon that's a

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little bit more Pro right leaning who

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wants an ice vehicle and less left

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leaning who wants an EV well now you're

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aligning to the wrong demographic at the

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same time as potentially the New York

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Times and I know they lean left but just

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put out a hit piece again on X

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suggesting that advertising revenues are

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down 86% and we might be facing elon's

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selling pressure soon remember Elon

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promised at the end of 2022 that he

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wouldn't sell in 2023 and that he might

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not sell in 2024 if things go well at X

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well now it looks like advertising

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hasn't recovered and instead X has

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resorted to suing past advertisers for

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boycotting X and I mean I hate to say it

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but I pay for x premium th000 bucks a

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month I it doesn't give me anything more

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than a little Vandy yellow little check

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mark nobody really cares about that

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anyway it does just not like it makes

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lick of a difference to what we're doing

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but it's sort of my way of just saying

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like hey I'm here to support you Elon

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okay I love you man but uh like you know

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when we ran ads at least what my team's

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telling me the conversion wasn't as good

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as what you could get on like a Google

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or Facebook and I mean we rarely run ads

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so you know consider it just an anecdote

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take it for what it's worth you know but

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uh these are just just things that are

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at the top of my head these are just

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things I'm thinking of uh so you know I

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I personally am a fan of looking at the

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1010 event as

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really probably as well by the rumor

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selda news we've seen those plenty of

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times before and on top of that it's

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worth KN that remember my biggest risk

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for robotaxi is with Robo taxi you need

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people to have to open up an app and say

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I want the fastest ride available well

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starting now in Phoenix you can actually

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book your next Uber with wh because

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they've partnered and UMO Uber I think

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is now partnering with uh GM Cruz as

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well which don't get me wrong I think

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Tesla's way ahead of Cruz but I think wh

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I mean they're on the streets driver

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list so at bare minimum even though if

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they're gofen they are a step further

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than Tesla in that sense uh because we

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still need a driver for those Edge case

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scenarios but let's just sa for a moment

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that we do have driverless Teslas we

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need people to pull up an app be it the

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Tesla or Uber or whatever and the Tesla

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has to show up a Tesla has to show up if

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a Tesla doesn't show up Tesla doesn't

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win the way a Tesla shows up is you have

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to have enough Teslas on the road or

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they have to be integrated into an app

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that people are used to like an Uber

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oryt getting people to go to the Tesla

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app and download another app make

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another account is a barrier it's a

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friction a pain of paying issue and then

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if you open up the app and then all of a

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sudden it's like oh okay you're going to

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have to wait 20 minutes for a Tesla or

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you can wait 2 minutes for a a regular

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Uber yes enthusiasts will wait the 20

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minutes because people love Tesla and

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that's what enthusiasts do I would wait

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for the Tesla but the vast majority of

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normal people they just won't they're

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just going to say you know what no

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thanks I'll take the fastest vehicle so

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that makes me also less enthused once

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again about Tesla robotaxi and I'm not

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trying to sound like a bear I'm just

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trying to look at realistic limitations

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that we have on a potential widespread

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Robo taxi Advance weo by the way is now

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starting to do rides in Santa Monica

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again I understand Geo fenced it's not

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as robust or potentially functional as

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Tesla uh in in Dynamic scenarios you

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still have people uh sitting and

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intervening remotely into these vehicles

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I get it but you're going to need that

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probably with Tesla as well and don't

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get me wrong the latest versions of FSD

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they're great I love them and I'm a big

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fan of FSD I just think we should drop

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the price of FSD get more people buying

17:27

Teslas include some of these features

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standard and let's expand the network

17:31

effects of Tesla you need ubiquity you

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want everybody using Tesla and loving

17:36

Tesla this probably comes with a balance

17:38

of some more neutral political

17:40

commentary as

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well but we'll put that aside for right

17:44

now so let's just be clear in 2022 Elon

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Musk dumped between 25 to $40 billion of

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Tesla stock and it really really hurt to

17:55

fund X that may happen again especially

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with the pain that we're seeing over at

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X now yes energy is a win is a win for

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Tesla the energy division but

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unfortunately I think the energy

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business is already being priced in on

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top of that if you haven't yet seen it

18:13

we had yet another VP leave Tesla this

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is a person who's been with Tesla since

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2013 and she just quit which is a little

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surprising to me that somebody who's

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been there for 11 years as a VP of

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finance and business operator

18:29

just quit not ideal for Tesla I don't

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like to see executive staff leaving

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especially as we go into Q3 Q4 so for

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those reasons unfortunately I cannot be

18:42

in Tesla at the moment would I consider

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buying Tesla right before the election

18:47

or going into uh q1 of next year like

18:51

maybe at the end of January or right

18:53

before the election if there's a big

18:55

sale absolutely I love the company

18:57

longterm I love where the company is in

19:00

terms of positioning I do think there

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are some execution issues that could be

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cleaned up I'm not optimistic on the

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robotaxi event and I do think our Tesla

19:10

mode on FSD is shrinking and that's why

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I think we need to get as many people as

19:15

possible into Teslas and actually bring

19:17

the company back to vehicle growth and

19:19

energy growth because remember vehicle

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growth will also contribute to energy

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growth and that way you can get the

19:25

flywheels of both businesses moving yes

19:28

in the short term could reducing FSD to

19:31

let's say fre or $2,000 or whatever hurt

19:34

margins yes but I think it would drive

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Tesla back to growth it was it it in my

19:41

opinion is one of the best uh driver

19:44

assistance Adas platforms that exists

19:46

everybody should use it it is

19:48

fantastic but I don't think it's being

19:50

marketed as uh that and unfortunately

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for the failure to expand FSD and to to

19:59

attract demand to really promote this

20:02

demand at this company versus hurting

20:04

demand at the company with uh politics

20:06

or hurting the share price of the

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company which demoralizes staff by

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unfortunately selling it to fund X which

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could happen

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again I'm out that's on top of the fact

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that the valuation is very high right

20:20

now in 90p and over 2.67 Peg it's too

20:23

high right now I think the downside is

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at least 14 to 38% if not more if we go

20:28

into into a recession uh and uh yes

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there was a moment where we had some

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excellent volatility analysis we were

20:35

able to take advantage of but today

20:36

volatility is pretty much mid-range so

20:38

I'm not as enthusiastic about volatility

20:40

now obviously because that volatility

20:42

plays over it's happened now instead we

20:45

have the bad news of potentially Q3 Q4 a

20:48

Fed that walks us into a recession and

20:50

an election coming up so I'm not looking

20:52

forward to it uh and I feel really sad

20:55

because I really like Tesla but it's

20:57

just the way way it is anyway thanks so

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much for

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watching that's all I got I just wish

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you the best out there goodbye good luck

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and uh i' with the exception of like one

21:07

retirement account I have reduced my

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exposure to Tesla to like zero uh and

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I'm not sure I just have very very

21:13

little exposure to Tesla right now

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advertise these things that you told us

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here I feel like nobody else knows about

21:19

this we'll we'll try a little

21:20

advertising and see how it goes

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congratulations man you have done so

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much people love you people look up to

21:24

you Kevin PA there financial analy and

21:27

YouTuber meet Kevin always great to get

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your

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take even though I'm a licensed

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