We're on the Brink of Default | Stimulus & Debt Ceiling Update
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everyone meet kevin here so the
government's about to default on its
debt we've got to pass a new budget by
september 30th or kick the can down the
road by then otherwise treasury
department and janet yellen are going to
have a heart attack which hopefully they
have life insurance which you can also
get in as little as five minutes by
going to medkevin.com life but most
importantly where the heck are we in
negotiations about this infrastructure
package and the debt limit and then
there's also talk about potentially
hurricane and disaster relief and money
for afghan refugees
where the heck are we what is going on
well folks it is so complicated the
easiest thing to do is just throw it on
a flow chart because who doesn't like
good flow all right folks let's get into
good flow option number one
all right this is where we start option
number one for congress so option number
one for congress is passing a bipartisan
continuing resolution and legislation to
provide funding
for disasters
but also provide funding for afghan
refugees
and then at the same time kick the can
down the road on the budget deficit
which nancy pelosi is trying to kick the
can down the road to december of 2022.
that's right i didn't get that wrong i
had to double check it too not 2021
like december of this year but 2022
is what she's trying to kick the can
down the road to now it's possible that
this is just an attempt at clever
negotiating so that way republicans are
like what how could you ask for it for a
year and three months
how about we just agree on december of
2021 and then we'll agree to it i i kind
of think that's the kind of negotiation
that's going on here because it's kind
of weird to just do a temporary stop gap
bill to
have no debt limit until 2022 but that
is what nancy pelosi is arguing for
right now she actually says that it's
republicans fault that we are out of
money and that we need to eliminate the
debt ceiling
at least until december of next year
because republicans passed an expensive
covert relief bill under donald trump at
the end of last year the 600 stimulus
package they didn't mention anything
about the 1400 stimulus package that was
passed in february of this year but
nancy pelosi did talk about that 600
package
anyway so how would this look well this
bill or group of bills would be a slam
dunk in the house the house of
representatives can afford to lose three
representatives in opposition but i
expect that they'll have plenty of
people to get this done in fact i would
not be surprised to see republicans join
in
on this
continuing resolution to extend the uh
the budget deficit ceiling uh through
potentially the end of next year because
at the same time there's also going to
be a vote uh or potentially even tied to
this on disaster relief for victims of
hurricanes disaster relief for areas
affected by flooding and hurricanes
and money for afghan refugees so it's
probably going to be a slam dunk in the
house where it becomes a problem is when
this legislative text goes over to the
senate in order for this to pass in the
senate you need 60 votes to do what's
known as invoking cloture
so cloture closes the debate
on this particular package or sets a set
of bills
and once the debate has been closed
then
you can pass these bills with just 51
votes
problem is republicans are very unlikely
to give that 60 votes uh because
republic we would have to have 10
republicans in the senate to join in on
voting for essentially removing the debt
ceiling until the end of 2022
which seems highly unlikely and we'll
talk about what some republicans have
said in just a moment but the argument
here is hey nancy pelosi saying let's
slam dunk these bills
then send it to the senate then publicly
shame the senate by saying look
you all could help us prevent the
government from defaulting you all could
provide money for afghans who need it
and refugees and you all could provide
disaster relief money
but you're saying no and so nancy pelosi
is going to try to politically shame
republicans into at the very least
voting for cloture
so that way they could say they just
voted to end debate
but then not have them vote on the
actual bill because you only need 51
votes for the actual bill democrats pass
it along party line and boom
this is done that's option number one
biden supports this path and pelosi and
schumer
want want to go down this path they've
announced this i've written some notes
here mitch mcconnell has responded to
this saying look he is not going to
provide any support in the form of
invoking cloture voting for that 60
votes or contributing to that 60 votes
to
end the debate and actually pass this
legislation mcconnell says look we don't
have a divided government democrats can
do all of this on their own and really
what he's doing here is he's trying to
force the democrats hands to say look
we're not going to support you we won't
vote to end debate you could just go
ahead and use budget reconciliation
to pass this
legislative text and respond to the debt
ceiling you don't need us
well reconciliation is the second option
but it's not the preferred option by
democrats see with reconciliation you
only need 51 votes you don't have to
invoke cloture you can bypass invoking
cloture but it burns the democrats
opportunity to use the budget
reconciliation plan again which they
want to use the budget reconciliation
plan on the 3.5 trillion dollar
infrastructure plan now maybe they can
combine money for afghan refugees money
for disaster relief money for uh
infrastructure and the debt limit all
into that same 3.5 trillion dollar bill
pass that through budget reconciliation
but they'd have to go super duper fast
at getting that three and a half
trillion dollar bill done and negotiated
because it's not yet we're still not
sure are we going to see the salt tax
deduction are we going to see
changes to people's retirement accounts
who are we going to tax exactly and by
how much are we going to tax them
we don't have a solid solution yet
because it's all still in flux and again
democrats do not want to burn their
opportunity to use budget reconciliation
just on expanding the debt limit because
they want to make sure they have that
tool on the tool belt so to speak for
their three and a half trillion dollar
plan
so the other thing is budget
reconciliation is not ideal for the
scenario because budget reconciliation
would require you pick an actual number
in terms of we're going to raise the
debt limit to
24 trillion or whatever you'd have to
pick some kind of number which is very
likely to be politically unpopular as
opposed to what the democrats are trying
to do right now which is just say let's
just completely get rid of the limit
until december of 2022 which is
obviously creating heart palpitations
with a lot of republicans the third
option which has been cheered by
progressives like aoc or bernie sanders
would be overriding the parliamentarian
or basically changing the rules like
editing the filibuster or ending the
filibuster rather editing the rules to
end the filibuster is what i mean to say
uh or potentially even firing the
parliamentarian to change the way they
can get these plans done and basically
loophole in to get their three and a
half trillion dollar package done to get
their immigration reform done which the
parliamentarian blocked maybe even to
get minimum wage done which the
parliamentarian also blocked that 15
minimum wage and democrats could
potentially make large changes here but
these changes would then be an opportune
solution for republicans to reverse all
of these changes if they had power or
got power in 2022
so in my opinion this is something
that's popular to say for somebody like
aoc i think it's very unlikely to happen
though because it doesn't play the long
game it just plays the short i'm gonna
say something dramatic to show how
important my priorities are but not
really actually get anything done so i
don't think changing the rules or ending
the filibuster i don't think any of that
is actually going to work i don't expect
the minimum wage to show up on this i
don't expect the immigration reform to
show up in this
where democrats right now do say that
they have other ideas and options but
really we're probably just not going to
see the minimum wage probably not going
to see immigration reform come up in
this in my opinion the most likely
option
is that we get some form of a
number one that is we pass that bill in
the house it ends up getting held up in
the senate and we end up having a really
sort of tense negotiation in the senate
until finally 10 republicans get
pressured to invoke cloture and the
debate and then let democrats
unilaterally pass this bill then it
opens the door wide open for democrats
to use budget reconciliation on the
three and a half trillion dollar bill
see republicans in this scenario would
actually be handing democrats the 300
the 3.5 trillion dollar stimulus package
basically republicans best chance to
kill the three and a half trillion
dollar package is literally to hold it
up right now by taking the country and
leveraging the country and threatening
the country's default which has never
happened before like a political hot
potato throwing it at janet yellen and
joe biden and saying go ahead default on
the country's obligations but we're not
going to support this three and a half
trillion dollar package at all
through any means now
in terms of quotes and some expectations
here mitt romney who usually sides with
bipartisans and centrists says he's
absolutely no to raising the debt limit
and he's absolutely a no
to supporting the invoking of cloture so
he won't vote for cloture or the bill
itself
on the flip side you have republican
senator john kennedy who says he will
reluctantly vote for the continuing
resolution the stopgap funding measure
and that also
suspends the debt limit and that's
because he wants to get that disaster
relief funding for louisiana he believes
that the disaster aid is critical for
his district but he also says he does
not think that a full 10 republicans are
actually going to vote for this unless
all of a sudden there are 10 republicans
like him he says quote
i'll probably vote for the continuing
resolution and he then goes on to say
there's no way it'll get 10 gop votes
though mcconnell is not bluffing
so this is kind of interesting it'll be
one of those head counts again where we
look around and go okay are we going to
get those 10 votes i don't know if we'll
get the 10 votes on the actual bill
doubt that but on potentially invoking
cloture yeah could definitely happen now
we do also have a timing issue with all
of this see take a look at this i'll
throw this up on screen again here so
aoc says she will not vote for the one
trillion dollar infrastructure package
the hard infrastructure package unless
we also vote on the three and a half
trillion dollar package well right now
the vote for the one trillion dollar
package is set for 9.27 we also got to
get a vote done before 9 30 on the
budget deficit the continuing resolution
the budget or the um aid for afghans the
aid for disaster relief right that would
all be included in the continuing
resolution the cr before 9 30. and then
at some point we got to get that three
and a half trillion dollar bill voted on
but aoc is saying she's not going to
vote for step number one right here
unless this package is done but that
package is nowhere near dumb then you
have kirsten cinema who says she will
not vote as a democrat on the three and
a half trillion dollar bill
unless
we also honor voting on the one trillion
dollar bill on september 27th so you
literally have folks here on opposite
ends complaining for their own demands
and so this is why right now there's so
much uncertainty because we just don't
have the text for the three and a half
trillion dollar bill yet the negotiation
is not done for that yet we don't have a
clear path in terms of how this
continuing resolution is going to get
done this package for 927 the one
trillion dollar package that's already
done that's already been passed by the
senate and it just needs to get rubber
stamped by the house but nancy pelosi is
holding that hostage because she wants
to vote on that bill at the same time as
the three and a half trillion dollar
package and wants to get the continuing
resolution done to suspend the debt
ceiling until the end of next year so
this gives you a lot of catch up
background what's the big bottom line
the big bottom line is as nancy pelosi
says the next 48 hours are going to be
absolutely critical in these
negotiations in the next 48 hours we
will know if we're going to be able to
get a continuing resolution scheduled
for debate and a vote again we expect it
to pass the house we expect to have big
issues in the senate in the meantime
democrats will go on their stomping
ground tour probably over the weekend
complaining about how reckless
republicans are for not voting to
support the suspension of the debt
ceiling so that the government can keep
paying its debts then you're going to
have people like janet yellen coming out
janet yellen's gonna come out and say
things like
hey well if we let the debt ceiling
expire it'll be the first time that
we've ever let the debt ceiling expire
50 million seniors could stop receiving
checks millions who rely on the child
tax credit could stop getting it the
government would default which we've
never had before that could lead to a
spike in interest rates which could
cause stocks to drop and which could
cause turmoil in the markets and there's
no valid reason to do this that by the
way those were little snippets from an
op-ed that she did in the wall street
journal so you could really see what's
happening here the most likely path okay
this now i'm going to draw it i've given
you all the options i'm just going to
draw out the most
likely path right here okay most likely
is we get the continuing resolution past
in house
and i'm gonna write up here forecast so
nobody is confused
and thinking that this is actually done
so the forecast here is a continuing
resolution passed in the house and i
would imagine this would get passed
somewhere by 9 24 which is the day the
coupon code for my programs down below
expires 40 off price is going to go up
big after that
then i expect this to have like a media
circus over the weekend
and then probably by the 30th
i
really would expect
that the senate will probably have been
bullied into invoking cloture and then
passing this along party lines
i do also think that ultimately the
house will end up voting to pass the one
trillion dollar package on the 27th
aoc can afford to or not aoc nancy
pelosi could afford to lose three
representatives to get that
infrastructure package done uh maybe
that'll be aoc and and one or two other
people whatever
but i do think that infrastructure
package will probably get passed on time
uh and and if this happens uh
the way i picture it here
the big specific portion being here the
senate actually allowing this continuing
resolution to go through if this happens
it's pretty much going to guarantee that
democrats are going to get that three
and a half trillion dollar package done
because then they wouldn't have had to
use their budget reconciliation to keep
the government funded and that three and
a half trillion dollar package will get
past the long party lines through budget
reconciliation so really if republicans
want to kill this three and a half
trillion dollar package right here they
need to stop this the the democrats in
the senate with this continuing
resolution and stop gap measure because
if they stop the democrats here
democrats will probably be forced to use
the budget reconciliation on extending
the debt which means they would not be
able to get a budget reconciliation on
that three and a half trillion dollar
bill and it would probably put that
three and a half trillion dollar bill to
rest it would probably be dead so really
this comes down to will ten republicans
say okay
over here
and allow this continuing resolution and
lifting of the debt ceiling to go
through mitch mcconnell says no but
nancy pelosi and chuck schumer they
think they can get 10 people to come
along you already have one person john
kennedy saying i'm on board to saying
okay because i want that disaster relief
well that is basically going to open up
the door that 3.5 trillion especially if
you get 10 republicans to do it so that
gives you an outlook here
this week is going to be very very busy
with updates on this so anyway thank you
so very much for watching this if you
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next one thanks again bye
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