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How to pitch a stock (equity research)

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when you pitch a stock to your client to

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your potential employer to your analyst

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or portfolio manager or even another

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investor the most important thing is to

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communicate concisely I'm Henry Chen an

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equity research analyst CFA Charter

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holder and now online educator to

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investors now I've pitched stock ideas

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to hedge fund analysts financial

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advisers fund managers so I can tell you

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that the ability to communicate the

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opportunity of a stock both demonstrates

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your expertise and showcases your

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knowledge of how to actually invest so

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I'm going to show you how to pitch a

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stock here and also share a free pdf of

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stock pitch guidelines that you can

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download that I'll email you with the

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link in the description first thing is

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you got to know your audience so for

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example if I to start talking about eqt

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Corporation it's a natural gas producer

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and I'm going to start talking to you

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about how I think it's a great Growth

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Company because natural gas is being

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used to power demand for AI and data

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centers and they're going to export a

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lot of uh natural gas right I'm going to

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lose the attention of a hedge fund

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analyst who's really just looking to

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understand if I'm investing in AI stocks

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how are the earnings estimates changing

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and how do I position my portfolio

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whereas if I pitch that company to a

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long only investor who does want to

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invest for 3 to five years and primarily

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buy stocks for their earnings growth I'm

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going to get their attention so the

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thing is you have to understand that

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every investor has a different strategy

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and a different Focus so if you don't

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know the Investor's strategy just ask

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them right off the bat what's their

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strategy what do they focus on are they

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looking at financials are they looking

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at Tech do they like value stocks like

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growth stocks what's the time frame how

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do they want to get paid in terms of

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returns you want to ask those questions

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ideally ahead of time if you can so that

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you can start to position your idea in a

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way that makes sense for that investor

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now the second thing about a stock pitch

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is that it's a recommendation you need

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to tell an investor what to do now a lot

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of new investors they make the mistake

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of just giving out a ton of knowledge

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now let me show you why that doesn't

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work hey there's this cool company msci

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they make indexes like the msci Emerging

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Markets index a lot of funds subscribe

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to it because they use these indexes to

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Benchmark the return

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exchange traded funds or etss or using

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indexes to create the portfolio it came

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from organ Stanley it's it the CEO is

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the founder boring right you probably

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zoned out after just a couple seconds

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because no one actually cares what this

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business does what investors care about

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what you care about how is this going to

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make you money as an investor you want

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to start off with a recommendation then

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a brief description of the business then

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go straight into the thesis why they

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should buy or sell the stock I recommend

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you buy and hold msci stock for the next

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3 to 5 years it's a 49 uh billion market

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cap company Capital markets business

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they make indexes that are used by fund

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managers and ETFs now why because the

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entire investment industry has been

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shifting to use indexes now about 30 to

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40% of all assets are about index based

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I've seen investors use up to 50 to 80%

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so there's a huge long-term growth

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potential in this product every fund

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manager needs to use indexes to create

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portfolios whether they're index funds

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ETFs or institutional investors so I

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think you own msci because msci is one

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of only three companies that sells and

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makes indexes and it's a bit like a

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Marketplace there's only three because

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once everyone starts to use an index

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very few people switch because all the

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investing and trading is centered around

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that index or that Benchmark they also

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have the highest margins the best growth

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because one they sell to institutional

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investors who who pay fees to access and

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use that data so they get more revenues

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and then the it's also a quite lowcost

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model for them to sell it's a digital

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product and they're also at the

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Forefront of creating indexes for new

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investment strategies so that's powering

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their growth so they're in a position

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that I think they can grow earnings for

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at least 13 to 15% every single year for

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quite a long time and that's how you're

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going to make money so that's more

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interesting right like here's a tip that

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I learned from working with Traders in

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the industry you always State your

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conclusion first then go into the reason

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because that's the only way you can

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communicate with Traders that have so

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many things going on they have the

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attention span of basically like

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goldfish and that also applies to almost

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everybody in the industry because the

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one thing that everyone is short on in

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the investment industry is time now

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third thing like any good story you need

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to get them excited but you need to do

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it using the language of Finance this is

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where you can Al really start to show

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that you know what you're talking about

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let's cut back to 2020 you remember

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everything was shut down uh there was

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this company amn Healthcare they do

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nurse staffing and they did there

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there's a lot of layoffs right because

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people weren't going to hospitals

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there's a lot less demand uh for nurse

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labor right except for covid so earnings

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were down the stock was down and there

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was just because there's less demand for

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Hospital services so that's a setup now

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by the end of 2020 as the economy was

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about to reopen I heard this pitch which

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I thought was excellent this is back in

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August 2020 so amn I think is a great

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buy here right I think the stock can

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easily double why because when the

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economy reopens uh hospitals will start

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to uh take in patients again people are

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going to start getting procedures that's

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going to drive demand for lur uh nursing

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and that's going to help amn's business

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uh Staffing business recover now the

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stock is not pricing in much of a

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recovery at all the estimates for EPS

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for 2021 are about $36 so it's about the

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same as 2019 but the thing is they made

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a couple of Acquisitions so technically

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that's it should be a lot higher just

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from those Acquisitions alone and so

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there's very very little recovery priced

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into those estimates second thing is to

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stop price to earnings multiple is 16

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times now normally it's between 14 and

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25 times so we're also at the low end uh

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of that range so if Healthcare demand

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rebounds which I think it will that

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would imply at least 30 to 40% of growth

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at least just to get back to normal

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levels that I think can get to an EPS of

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uh $410 maybe $420 and they're already

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starting to see signs of stabilization

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in their business from the last quarter

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so the stock also or the business was

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also growing 10 to 20% every year before

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because they were expanding to manage uh

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labor for both nurses as well as other

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staff for hospitals Nationwide so when I

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layer on that 20% growth say with the

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business recovering and then you have

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this normal growth trajectory I think we

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can get to at least $5 in EPS uh for the

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following year and if we get to a more

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normal multiple of say about 20 times

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like how the stock is historically

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traded that implies a uh $100 stock by

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the end of next year and so that's an

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easy double for from the $50 that the

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stock is currently trading at right now

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see that's pretty interesting right now

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I'm giving you a specific upside price

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so that's the potential for the stock my

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estimates for the business and the

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valuation I'm walking you through the

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time frame of the thesis and I'm also

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explaining the methodology of how I got

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there and so then you also want to do

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the same for the downside scenario exact

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same thing except now you're thinking

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about the risk of where you can go wrong

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how it can lose money and amn you might

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notice was a great idea because the

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downside was already priced both in

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terms of the estimates as well as the

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valuation now fourth thing you may have

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noticed you want to be able to express

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your view and contrast it with Market

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expectation so basically you want to

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answer why is this stock mispriced how

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is your view different from the market

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and what kind of catalyst will

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ultimately revalue the stock so this is

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more advanced than it comes with the

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experience and this is more of like a

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hedge fund pitch because you know that

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kind of differentiated view is really

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how you find ideas for stocks that are

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going to move differently from the

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sector and the market so here's an

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example I did a couple months ago it's

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for pay laity it's a software company

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they do like payroll and HR uh platform

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for for small businesses so I

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recommended uh buying the stock ahead of

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the 1q earnings release so the stock uh

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was at $170 I think it could get up to

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200 bucks and so that's 15 to 20%

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returns for the earnings release alone

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and the reason why is because I think

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estimates are already too low and I

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expect the multiple to rate now why now

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so the payroll industry could see

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accelerated growth next year one of the

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reasons why is because employment growth

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which had been slowing and that's a key

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driver for these businesses is now

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stabilizing and it looks like it could

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be picking up again second is growth was

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really just slowed for a lot of these

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companies because they were benefiting

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from uh tax credits the prior year so

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those expired and that's what suppressed

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growth for a little bit so now that's

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passed so now we have easier comparisons

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so that's why I think it should be a a

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year where uh growth will start to

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accelerate now don't think people are

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incorporating that into their numbers

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the estimates for growth are basically

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flat for pay lossi about 8% in the

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earnings per share growth now paychecks

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also just reported an acceleration in

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their business on the revenue growth

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side so I think this quarter is when

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we're going to start to see the result

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for pay lity as well now the stock is

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already drisk you know they they put out

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their guidance for the year it was kind

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of at a low 8% rate uh the stocks

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multiple is currently 27 that's also

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lowest for the group but mind you this

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April % growth rate is still one of the

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fastest for the group so I think the

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multiple is too low and management you

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know over the past couple weeks has also

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been saying that I think we can get to a

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beat and raise Cadence meaning I think

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they can raise their guidance so I think

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the guidance estimates are too low I'm

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estimating about

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$714 uh in EPS for 2026 so the following

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year that's a 3% upside versus current

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Street estimates uh and that represents

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about 11% EPS gross versus the 8% that's

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uh the the Market's expecting they're

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already growing their client employees

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so that's sort of the core driver of the

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business at 8% again that's the fastest

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of the group so I expect it to rise from

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to 11% from the better employment

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environment the easier comparisons with

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the passing of these tax credits

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expiring um and the multiple I think

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when when the when the market sees us

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can rate to closer to that 28 30 times

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multiple I think that's a fair multiple

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if they're growing faster than these

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companies and the Catalyst that I'm

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looking for is in this current next

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releasee I expect them to uh either uh

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to to raise their guidance and that will

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start to drive estimates up and that's

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going to create the Catalyst for the

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stock to rate that gets me to a $200

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stock when I'm using that $714 with a 28

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times multiple that's a 15 to 20% uh

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increase in the stock from just the

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earnings release alone now I get that

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sales Trends are difficult to predict so

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even if it stays at this 8% type of

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level right that implies closer to $7 in

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EPS if I'm using the the low multiple of

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24 times right we're getting to about

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170 stock so that's currently where the

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stock is at so I think there's a lot

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more upside versus downside ining the

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quarter the Stock's already starting to

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trade up since that paycheck speed so I

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think a lot of investors are starting to

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pick up interest and I don't think it's

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priced in yet okay so if you're new to

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this and and you and you want to do

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something like this and you're pitching

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to an employer don't worry about being

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right because no one will assume you

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will be because you have no experience

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but you want to put in the work to be

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able to articulate what you think the

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market expectation is and what your view

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is both in a quantifiable way so that

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demonstrates that you can be an investor

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and understand how expectations are

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moving stocks and also if you're just

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starting out and you're pitching to

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clients and analysts and portfolio

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managers the better you can start to

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identify these expectations as well as

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the key drivers and catalysts from

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research and price different scenarios

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and articulate a quantitative view the

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better you're going to understand risk

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and the better you're going to be able

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to make money as an investor and Pitch

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great ideas now it also helps just a

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couple other tips to pick a good

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industry avoid stocks that are too

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volatile or too controversial you just

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don't want to pitch a blowup make it

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easy for yourself when you want to pitch

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an idea okay so to wrap up putting

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together a good concise pitch means

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first you're going to do all the due

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diligence do the research so you can

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actually come up with a view now then do

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a write up to organize your thoughts

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keep it short and then just come up with

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three good reasons to buy the stuff or

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sell the stock be able to articulate

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your reasons with the financial model so

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understanding the numbers and then be

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able to also explain the positives and

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negatives of the business and your idea

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be able to explain why your view is

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different versus the consensus or Market

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View and then just simplify it all down

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so that you're able to talk about it

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like you're talking to a friend uh with

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numbers to back it up these guidelines

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from this video will will help you

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communicate that idea in in a way that

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gets attention it really shows that you

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know your stuff so the next video if you

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want to help with the diligence part of

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it I would suggest you check it out but

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again there's a link uh to a PDF with

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the stock pitch guidelines so that that

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I can email to you below in the

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description so you can use it to refer

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to when you craft your next pitch plus

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if you're interested in an education

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program for investors there's also

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information the in the description below

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and also if you're a student we know

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you're not making money yet but we want

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to still help you get there so we're

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also happy to offer discounts for uh

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students in in your situation so let's

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get you to finding some ideas pitch some

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great ideas and I will see you in the

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next video there's this trend called

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outcome investing where in you know

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you're using you're designing a

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portfolio of assets to go around a

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specific return of all

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