How to pitch a stock (equity research)
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when you pitch a stock to your client to
your potential employer to your analyst
or portfolio manager or even another
investor the most important thing is to
communicate concisely I'm Henry Chen an
equity research analyst CFA Charter
holder and now online educator to
investors now I've pitched stock ideas
to hedge fund analysts financial
advisers fund managers so I can tell you
that the ability to communicate the
opportunity of a stock both demonstrates
your expertise and showcases your
knowledge of how to actually invest so
I'm going to show you how to pitch a
stock here and also share a free pdf of
stock pitch guidelines that you can
download that I'll email you with the
link in the description first thing is
you got to know your audience so for
example if I to start talking about eqt
Corporation it's a natural gas producer
and I'm going to start talking to you
about how I think it's a great Growth
Company because natural gas is being
used to power demand for AI and data
centers and they're going to export a
lot of uh natural gas right I'm going to
lose the attention of a hedge fund
analyst who's really just looking to
understand if I'm investing in AI stocks
how are the earnings estimates changing
and how do I position my portfolio
whereas if I pitch that company to a
long only investor who does want to
invest for 3 to five years and primarily
buy stocks for their earnings growth I'm
going to get their attention so the
thing is you have to understand that
every investor has a different strategy
and a different Focus so if you don't
know the Investor's strategy just ask
them right off the bat what's their
strategy what do they focus on are they
looking at financials are they looking
at Tech do they like value stocks like
growth stocks what's the time frame how
do they want to get paid in terms of
returns you want to ask those questions
ideally ahead of time if you can so that
you can start to position your idea in a
way that makes sense for that investor
now the second thing about a stock pitch
is that it's a recommendation you need
to tell an investor what to do now a lot
of new investors they make the mistake
of just giving out a ton of knowledge
now let me show you why that doesn't
work hey there's this cool company msci
they make indexes like the msci Emerging
Markets index a lot of funds subscribe
to it because they use these indexes to
Benchmark the return
exchange traded funds or etss or using
indexes to create the portfolio it came
from organ Stanley it's it the CEO is
the founder boring right you probably
zoned out after just a couple seconds
because no one actually cares what this
business does what investors care about
what you care about how is this going to
make you money as an investor you want
to start off with a recommendation then
a brief description of the business then
go straight into the thesis why they
should buy or sell the stock I recommend
you buy and hold msci stock for the next
3 to 5 years it's a 49 uh billion market
cap company Capital markets business
they make indexes that are used by fund
managers and ETFs now why because the
entire investment industry has been
shifting to use indexes now about 30 to
40% of all assets are about index based
I've seen investors use up to 50 to 80%
so there's a huge long-term growth
potential in this product every fund
manager needs to use indexes to create
portfolios whether they're index funds
ETFs or institutional investors so I
think you own msci because msci is one
of only three companies that sells and
makes indexes and it's a bit like a
Marketplace there's only three because
once everyone starts to use an index
very few people switch because all the
investing and trading is centered around
that index or that Benchmark they also
have the highest margins the best growth
because one they sell to institutional
investors who who pay fees to access and
use that data so they get more revenues
and then the it's also a quite lowcost
model for them to sell it's a digital
product and they're also at the
Forefront of creating indexes for new
investment strategies so that's powering
their growth so they're in a position
that I think they can grow earnings for
at least 13 to 15% every single year for
quite a long time and that's how you're
going to make money so that's more
interesting right like here's a tip that
I learned from working with Traders in
the industry you always State your
conclusion first then go into the reason
because that's the only way you can
communicate with Traders that have so
many things going on they have the
attention span of basically like
goldfish and that also applies to almost
everybody in the industry because the
one thing that everyone is short on in
the investment industry is time now
third thing like any good story you need
to get them excited but you need to do
it using the language of Finance this is
where you can Al really start to show
that you know what you're talking about
let's cut back to 2020 you remember
everything was shut down uh there was
this company amn Healthcare they do
nurse staffing and they did there
there's a lot of layoffs right because
people weren't going to hospitals
there's a lot less demand uh for nurse
labor right except for covid so earnings
were down the stock was down and there
was just because there's less demand for
Hospital services so that's a setup now
by the end of 2020 as the economy was
about to reopen I heard this pitch which
I thought was excellent this is back in
August 2020 so amn I think is a great
buy here right I think the stock can
easily double why because when the
economy reopens uh hospitals will start
to uh take in patients again people are
going to start getting procedures that's
going to drive demand for lur uh nursing
and that's going to help amn's business
uh Staffing business recover now the
stock is not pricing in much of a
recovery at all the estimates for EPS
for 2021 are about $36 so it's about the
same as 2019 but the thing is they made
a couple of Acquisitions so technically
that's it should be a lot higher just
from those Acquisitions alone and so
there's very very little recovery priced
into those estimates second thing is to
stop price to earnings multiple is 16
times now normally it's between 14 and
25 times so we're also at the low end uh
of that range so if Healthcare demand
rebounds which I think it will that
would imply at least 30 to 40% of growth
at least just to get back to normal
levels that I think can get to an EPS of
uh $410 maybe $420 and they're already
starting to see signs of stabilization
in their business from the last quarter
so the stock also or the business was
also growing 10 to 20% every year before
because they were expanding to manage uh
labor for both nurses as well as other
staff for hospitals Nationwide so when I
layer on that 20% growth say with the
business recovering and then you have
this normal growth trajectory I think we
can get to at least $5 in EPS uh for the
following year and if we get to a more
normal multiple of say about 20 times
like how the stock is historically
traded that implies a uh $100 stock by
the end of next year and so that's an
easy double for from the $50 that the
stock is currently trading at right now
see that's pretty interesting right now
I'm giving you a specific upside price
so that's the potential for the stock my
estimates for the business and the
valuation I'm walking you through the
time frame of the thesis and I'm also
explaining the methodology of how I got
there and so then you also want to do
the same for the downside scenario exact
same thing except now you're thinking
about the risk of where you can go wrong
how it can lose money and amn you might
notice was a great idea because the
downside was already priced both in
terms of the estimates as well as the
valuation now fourth thing you may have
noticed you want to be able to express
your view and contrast it with Market
expectation so basically you want to
answer why is this stock mispriced how
is your view different from the market
and what kind of catalyst will
ultimately revalue the stock so this is
more advanced than it comes with the
experience and this is more of like a
hedge fund pitch because you know that
kind of differentiated view is really
how you find ideas for stocks that are
going to move differently from the
sector and the market so here's an
example I did a couple months ago it's
for pay laity it's a software company
they do like payroll and HR uh platform
for for small businesses so I
recommended uh buying the stock ahead of
the 1q earnings release so the stock uh
was at $170 I think it could get up to
200 bucks and so that's 15 to 20%
returns for the earnings release alone
and the reason why is because I think
estimates are already too low and I
expect the multiple to rate now why now
so the payroll industry could see
accelerated growth next year one of the
reasons why is because employment growth
which had been slowing and that's a key
driver for these businesses is now
stabilizing and it looks like it could
be picking up again second is growth was
really just slowed for a lot of these
companies because they were benefiting
from uh tax credits the prior year so
those expired and that's what suppressed
growth for a little bit so now that's
passed so now we have easier comparisons
so that's why I think it should be a a
year where uh growth will start to
accelerate now don't think people are
incorporating that into their numbers
the estimates for growth are basically
flat for pay lossi about 8% in the
earnings per share growth now paychecks
also just reported an acceleration in
their business on the revenue growth
side so I think this quarter is when
we're going to start to see the result
for pay lity as well now the stock is
already drisk you know they they put out
their guidance for the year it was kind
of at a low 8% rate uh the stocks
multiple is currently 27 that's also
lowest for the group but mind you this
April % growth rate is still one of the
fastest for the group so I think the
multiple is too low and management you
know over the past couple weeks has also
been saying that I think we can get to a
beat and raise Cadence meaning I think
they can raise their guidance so I think
the guidance estimates are too low I'm
estimating about
$714 uh in EPS for 2026 so the following
year that's a 3% upside versus current
Street estimates uh and that represents
about 11% EPS gross versus the 8% that's
uh the the Market's expecting they're
already growing their client employees
so that's sort of the core driver of the
business at 8% again that's the fastest
of the group so I expect it to rise from
to 11% from the better employment
environment the easier comparisons with
the passing of these tax credits
expiring um and the multiple I think
when when the when the market sees us
can rate to closer to that 28 30 times
multiple I think that's a fair multiple
if they're growing faster than these
companies and the Catalyst that I'm
looking for is in this current next
releasee I expect them to uh either uh
to to raise their guidance and that will
start to drive estimates up and that's
going to create the Catalyst for the
stock to rate that gets me to a $200
stock when I'm using that $714 with a 28
times multiple that's a 15 to 20% uh
increase in the stock from just the
earnings release alone now I get that
sales Trends are difficult to predict so
even if it stays at this 8% type of
level right that implies closer to $7 in
EPS if I'm using the the low multiple of
24 times right we're getting to about
170 stock so that's currently where the
stock is at so I think there's a lot
more upside versus downside ining the
quarter the Stock's already starting to
trade up since that paycheck speed so I
think a lot of investors are starting to
pick up interest and I don't think it's
priced in yet okay so if you're new to
this and and you and you want to do
something like this and you're pitching
to an employer don't worry about being
right because no one will assume you
will be because you have no experience
but you want to put in the work to be
able to articulate what you think the
market expectation is and what your view
is both in a quantifiable way so that
demonstrates that you can be an investor
and understand how expectations are
moving stocks and also if you're just
starting out and you're pitching to
clients and analysts and portfolio
managers the better you can start to
identify these expectations as well as
the key drivers and catalysts from
research and price different scenarios
and articulate a quantitative view the
better you're going to understand risk
and the better you're going to be able
to make money as an investor and Pitch
great ideas now it also helps just a
couple other tips to pick a good
industry avoid stocks that are too
volatile or too controversial you just
don't want to pitch a blowup make it
easy for yourself when you want to pitch
an idea okay so to wrap up putting
together a good concise pitch means
first you're going to do all the due
diligence do the research so you can
actually come up with a view now then do
a write up to organize your thoughts
keep it short and then just come up with
three good reasons to buy the stuff or
sell the stock be able to articulate
your reasons with the financial model so
understanding the numbers and then be
able to also explain the positives and
negatives of the business and your idea
be able to explain why your view is
different versus the consensus or Market
View and then just simplify it all down
so that you're able to talk about it
like you're talking to a friend uh with
numbers to back it up these guidelines
from this video will will help you
communicate that idea in in a way that
gets attention it really shows that you
know your stuff so the next video if you
want to help with the diligence part of
it I would suggest you check it out but
again there's a link uh to a PDF with
the stock pitch guidelines so that that
I can email to you below in the
description so you can use it to refer
to when you craft your next pitch plus
if you're interested in an education
program for investors there's also
information the in the description below
and also if you're a student we know
you're not making money yet but we want
to still help you get there so we're
also happy to offer discounts for uh
students in in your situation so let's
get you to finding some ideas pitch some
great ideas and I will see you in the
next video there's this trend called
outcome investing where in you know
you're using you're designing a
portfolio of assets to go around a
specific return of all
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