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Well, take a look at the chart and guess

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where the payroll revisions came out.

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Obviously, the payroll revisions came

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out right here.

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911,000 jobs and unsurprisingly risk

0:13

assets trading down a bit. But

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surprisingly,

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interest rates on bonds are moving up.

0:20

Now, that's what we really got to talk

0:22

about because tomorrow we have some big

0:24

catalysts starting with producer price

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index inflationary reads and then

0:29

following that we'll have the CPI

0:31

inflation reads. Usually we get those in

0:33

reverse order. Uh but tomorrow uh

0:36

Wednesday at 5:30 in the morning we'll

0:38

have our producer price index numbers.

0:40

Uh and these can actually accelerate the

0:43

increase of bond yields which right now

0:46

are at the lowest level they've been at

0:48

all year. But risk moving up even higher

0:52

which will be a little bit of a

0:53

short-term negative to uh some of those

0:55

real estate related uh stocks could be a

0:58

buying opportunity. But take a look at

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this producer price index inflation

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month over month tomorrow is expected to

1:03

be.3 and the core read is also expected

1:06

to be.3 and.3 for X food energy X food

1:09

energy trade. If these numbers come in,

1:12

which I think they're more likely to

1:14

come in at a four handle, so point4,

1:17

than they are to come in at a two

1:18

handle. If they come in at that four

1:20

handle, we probably are giving credence

1:23

the Fed going, "Look, 25 basis points.

1:27

That's it. We'll go meeting by meeting

1:29

after that." It kind of puts the market

1:32

into a bit of a stasis environment where

1:35

the numbers aren't such that we could be

1:37

so excited and rally that markets are

1:40

going to the moon, but they're not so

1:42

bad that, you know, we're expecting

1:45

massive rapid rate cuts. And that's

1:47

basically what we got out of the QC dub

1:50

numbers. As you can see here, we ended

1:52

up getting just 847,000

1:55

jobs created in the 12 months ending in

1:57

March. that reduces the monthly job

1:59

creation rate to just 70,583.

2:03

And usually you start getting

2:04

recessionary concerns at under 50,000.

2:07

And so I think what we have is a bond

2:09

market that's reacting to numbers that

2:12

are bad, but they're not recessionarily

2:15

bad. They're not bad enough to get the

2:17

Fed to say, you know what, we need many

2:19

multiple cuts. And unfortunately PPI in

2:23

my opinion more likely to come in

2:25

slightly higher than slightly low

2:27

tomorrow probably just adds fuel to that

2:30

fire. So it's possible that in the short

2:32

term over the next few days we could end

2:34

up seeing this 10-year yield just bounce

2:38

up a bit. Uh now again we're at the

2:40

lowest level we've been in all year with

2:42

the exception of this very brief moment

2:44

right on liberation day when the 10-year

2:46

dropped a smidge below 4%. But it

2:49

wouldn't be surprising to see this move

2:51

back up to about 415, maybe even 420 as

2:55

we get that PPI CPI data. Now, best case

2:58

scenario for markets tomorrow and uh

3:01

Thursday when we get our CPI numbers,

3:03

which are also expected to be.3,

3:06

year-over-year 2.9, year-over-year core,

3:08

3.1 on CPI, year-over-year PPI, uh 3.3

3:12

tomorrow, and 3.5 on the core. When you

3:15

get these numbers tomorrow,

3:18

best case scenario is that all those

3:21

inflation numbers come in at expectation

3:25

or slightly low. We want to see that

3:27

fire cooling underneath the hood. Now,

3:30

understand what I mean when I say the

3:32

fire cooling underneath the hood.

3:35

doesn't mean that, you know, there's no

3:37

inflation from tariffs and it doesn't

3:40

mean that, you know, we're at a place

3:42

of, oh, uh, there's there's like this

3:45

mega inflation and we're going to be in

3:47

a stagflationary environment, right? We

3:49

we want to stay away from any of that.

3:51

What really inflation cooling under the

3:53

hood means is something like this. Think

3:55

about the trend of inflation. This is

3:58

COVID inflation and then you come Oh,

4:00

there we go. Let's try that again.

4:02

Here's COVID inflation and then you come

4:04

down and then down and then you're

4:08

getting the tariff inflation, right? Oh,

4:11

there we go. I guess it doesn't show

4:12

until I let go, which is interesting.

4:14

So, what you're kind of getting right

4:16

now is uh iPad's being a little funky

4:20

this morning. There we go. What you're

4:22

getting right now is that you're getting

4:24

that little tick up there on the end.

4:26

And that's really important because it

4:28

shows you that your initial trend uh of

4:31

inflation is moving in the wrong

4:33

direction. It's a sign that we are

4:37

seeing under the hood inflation that's

4:39

rising on a consumer good pace at a tune

4:42

of about 5.6% annualized. That's a lot.

4:46

We're also seeing some of those uh you

4:48

know core non-housing services start

4:51

reacelerating which means there's

4:53

potentially a spillover from goods

4:55

inflation into services inflation and

4:58

that's how you get broad-based inflation

5:00

that's bad and unfortunately that's just

5:02

what the tariffs are bringing to us at

5:05

this time. So the tariffs are bringing

5:07

us uh rather than a continuation of a

5:10

downtrend of inflation, the tariffs are

5:12

giving us uh a a reaceleration.

5:16

Now Jerome Powell and the Federal

5:18

Reserve are broadly convinced that these

5:20

lines uh we'll pick a different color

5:23

here that these lines are going to be

5:26

broadly transitory over time. So that

5:30

you know on the left over here we had co

5:33

inflation and on the right we have a

5:34

bump from tariffs. Both of them, I think

5:37

they're arguing and from what we've seen

5:39

Powell say, uh, are going to be branded

5:43

as transitory in nature.

5:46

And what we're finding with Powell

5:49

bringing back flexible inflation

5:51

targeting or FIT, which is a slight

5:54

deviation from Fate, which was flexible

5:57

average inflation targeting by going to

5:59

FIT. to flexible average inflation

6:01

targeting. Powell's basically saying,

6:03

"Hey, for this period of time right

6:05

here, we just want to go and recognize

6:08

that tariffs are going to be a one-time

6:10

but overtime inflationary impact. If we

6:14

look through that like textbooks tell us

6:16

to do, then we could still reduce rates.

6:19

But the data today was not bad enough.

6:22

Even though it was the worst in 26

6:24

years, negative 911 was not bad enough

6:28

to actually motivate us uh to see any

6:31

kind of big drop in yields, assuming

6:33

that markets are going to get anything

6:34

more than a 25 basis point cut. That's

6:36

probably because we literally came in

6:39

right at the two standard deviation

6:41

level. Two standard deviations would

6:42

have been 990. We came in at 991, which

6:46

that only had a 5% chance of happening

6:48

statistically.

6:50

We got it. It's bad, but I think markets

6:53

see this as like a clearing event. It's

6:55

like, all right, we were all expecting

6:57

bad news. Best set up 800K, and maybe

7:00

because it's a market clearing event,

7:03

even though the numbers are so bad, the

7:04

bond market's kind of like, all right,

7:05

bro, priced in. And that's why we're

7:08

getting a little bit of a tick up here.

7:09

We've seen almost no movement in the

7:11

odds of a 50 basis point cut. We started

7:14

the day at about an 8% chance of a 50

7:16

basis point cut. We're at about a 10%

7:18

chance right now. it that's

7:20

indistinguishable from zero movement. So

7:23

we're really it's not bad enough data uh

7:26

to motivate big cuts and we do have a

7:29

risk that CPI and PPI over the next two

7:31

days are going to come in hot. Now best

7:34

case scenario and that's my bias. I I

7:37

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7:39

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7:41

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7:55

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7:57

selling for the next 10 years at least.

8:00

So, take a look, you know, again here at

8:02

this iPad. The the key here is uh if we

8:07

get a lower read, that would be clutch.

8:11

So, if we end up getting a read like a

8:13

0.2 two on PPI or CPI tomorrow. That's

8:16

going to be a real bullish catalyst

8:18

because that's where you can actually

8:19

get the stock market to go up and yields

8:22

to come down. But other than that, we

8:24

seem a little stuck in place right now.

8:27

The market's in this stasis of hey,

8:31

yeah, we're we're waiting for data.

8:33

We're, you know, bouncing on 577 on the

8:36

cues. We're rejecting the 580s, the

8:39

lower 580s, which are our all-time high

8:41

levels, 581 and 583. Uh, and we're just

8:45

kind of in a decent spot. Like prices

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are relatively near all-time highs.

8:50

Yields are slowly trending down. Data

8:54

just isn't strong enough in any

8:56

direction to say, "Oh my gosh, yeah,

8:58

this is a recession," or, "Oh my gosh,

8:59

this is stagflation." It's pretty

9:01

benign. Now, what that means is time.

9:05

And that's actually something really

9:07

important to know if you're a trader or

9:09

you're investing in stocks.

9:12

When everything takes longer to happen

9:15

than you expect,

9:17

options become really risky because

9:20

options

9:22

do really well when what you expect to

9:24

happen happens quickly. Shares don't

9:27

have that pain. And so using shares to

9:30

make your investment decisions versus

9:32

options in this sort of market where

9:34

we're kind of like in this slog, but

9:36

it's like a slow motion movement of the

9:39

economy. It's that's kind of what I feel

9:42

like. It's like imagine you you've got

9:44

somebody running a marathon to a

9:45

recession,

9:47

but they're literally moving like this.

9:50

And then every time it's like, oh, his

9:52

hands all the way at the top. He's

9:54

getting closer.

9:56

Oh, wait for the next data set next

9:58

month. Oh, what's it going to be? Like,

10:01

we're moving so freaking slowly. It's

10:04

It's tough to to make big bets, I feel

10:07

like, in options right now. A lot easier

10:09

to just go, "Hey, buy the dip on great

10:11

quality companies that you can own for

10:13

the very long term on um uh you know,

10:18

stocks that you feel like are going to

10:19

be part of the next cycle." Like I

10:21

personally believe this next cycle is

10:23

going to be one where either way whether

10:26

we have uh really bad jobs data and we

10:29

go into a recession and rates go back to

10:31

zerp which is the um zero interest rate

10:34

policy which will be a huge refinancing

10:37

in GDP boom by the way. Uh huge for real

10:40

estate stocks which I think is why

10:42

Warren Buffett is investing in real

10:43

estate. We just need to get Warren

10:44

Buffett investing in house hack too. I

10:46

don't think he knows about it otherwise

10:47

he would. I I I'm sure. But uh but

10:50

anyway uh or we just normalize because

10:53

that hump, you know, this this hump

10:55

right here, that green hump goes away

10:58

and then we normalize our rates. Like

10:59

either way, I feel like the next cycle

11:01

and this is what we're we're choosing,

11:03

you know, stocks based on uh is in in

11:07

the meet Kevin membership is this these

11:10

next 10 stocks that we're buying. Well,

11:12

the next six because we've already

11:13

picked four of them. The next six that

11:14

we're buying, they're all based on

11:17

what's going to do well in our opinion,

11:20

no guarantees of course, in a soft

11:21

landing where rates just slowly come

11:24

down and the Fed policy rates go to 2

11:26

and a half or 3%. Or what does well in

11:30

that case, but even better if rates go

11:33

down to, you know, 2%, 1% or zero. So

11:37

that's the next regime to look at is a

11:39

lower interest rate regime either way

11:42

because I don't see stagflation as an

11:44

issue. Stagflation is really going to

11:45

come from uh a wage price spiral which

11:49

so far we're seeing no evidence that

11:51

people are actually able to demand

11:53

significant wage increases. It's

11:55

probable that uh artificial intelligence

11:57

is limiting people's ability to uh you

12:01

know get pay increases uh and and that

12:04

really limits the impact of inflation or

12:07

stagflation at least. But it still means

12:09

we're doing this slow slog towards

12:12

either a soft landing or recession.

12:15

Nobody knows when we're going to have

12:17

that final decision on on you know

12:19

what's coming or not. Uh but what we do

12:22

recognize is jobs growth on average is

12:26

low, but it's still slightly above our

12:28

recessionary numbers. And that's what

12:30

the QCW gave us this morning. 70,000 job

12:33

creation rate over the last 12 months

12:35

ending in March is still above the 50

12:37

typical threshold where you generally

12:38

start getting concerned about a

12:39

recession. You know, we've got an

12:41

average over the last 30 uh uh 4 months

12:44

that puts us at 37,000 jobs. If we end

12:46

up getting these revisions on top of

12:48

those, that puts us at -39,000 jobs,

12:51

then then we're basically in a

12:53

recession, right? If you carry those

12:55

revisions over, but we're not going to

12:56

have those revisions for another 6

12:58

months. So, we don't know. And so, as

13:00

with most recessions, you don't really

13:02

know until you're at like

13:05

like you don't really know that you're

13:06

in a recession until you're at the end

13:08

of it. And that's usually when the big

13:10

shock hits, which I think we are

13:11

shockprone in markets. We know we're

13:14

shock prone because the 102 yield curve

13:16

is sitting at above 50. Above 50 is a

13:20

shockprone level, but it's chilling out

13:21

a little bit. Well, down at 54 today.

13:24

So, I think that's the way to look at

13:26

this is you look for great quality

13:28

companies that you can own over the long

13:30

term that you could buy the dip on, but

13:32

they should be plays that that are

13:35

valuable in an environment that does

13:37

well when rates come down uh and

13:40

potentially when rates come down really

13:42

fast. I like I I really I have not

13:45

invested in this one. I'll be

13:46

transparent, but I like Warren Buffett's

13:49

play on Pool that Pool is that warehouse

13:51

distributor or or well they're a

13:53

distributor for pool equipment, pool

13:55

pumps and other ones. And I actually

13:56

think it's a really interesting company.

13:58

uh you know, we could take a quick peek

13:59

at it, but I think it's an interesting

14:02

play because really, if rates come down,

14:05

homeowners who have a lot of equity in

14:06

their homes, especially in markets like

14:08

in California, they're probably going to

14:11

get home equity lines of credit at now

14:14

lower rates. And what do people usually

14:17

do when they get a home equity line of

14:18

credit? They buy a boat, they pay off

14:21

their credit cards, and then they go

14:23

refill up those credit cards, which is

14:24

good for consumer spending, or they

14:26

renovate their home. Some people will

14:28

buy rental property which then they go

14:30

renovate the rental property, right?

14:32

When people do renovations, it's it's a

14:34

contributor to GDP. Like I think when

14:36

house hack I mean we're buying again,

14:38

you know, we've bought like five or six

14:39

homes just in the last like 14 days.

14:42

When we go spend, you know, 50 grand on

14:44

a renovation, that's 50 grand that was

14:47

sitting in a bank account, you know,

14:49

earning, you know, 5% or 4% or whatever.

14:52

Uh and it goes into the economy with a

14:56

multiplier effect. you know, painters

14:57

get work, flooring companies get work,

14:59

Lowe's gets work, the contractor supply

15:01

warehouses we use, they get work,

15:03

whatever. You know, the local lumber

15:04

place gets work for baseboards,

15:06

whatever. Like, everybody wins when

15:08

people spend money. And so, I think

15:10

that's why Warren Buffett looks at uh

15:14

pool uh the in, you know, investor docs

15:17

on pool over here. Sales are basically

15:19

flat year-over-year, but that's flat in

15:22

a high interest rate environment. Like,

15:24

I'm not here to chill pool. I'm just

15:26

here to say this is an example of of the

15:30

the logic people are using to make

15:32

investment decisions right now because

15:33

they're not trying to think of what's

15:34

doing well right now. They're trying to

15:36

think of what's the next cycle going to

15:38

bring us. And so you've got flat

15:41

revenues uh and and gross profit at pool

15:45

year-over-year

15:47

in a high interest rate environment.

15:48

Well, what direction does this go if

15:52

rates come down by a normalization and

15:55

spawn more refinancing or purchasing

15:57

activity or heliloc activity or rates

15:59

plummet? I mean, obviously, if you go

16:01

into a recession, you know, 10% more of

16:03

our workforce is going to be unemployed.

16:05

Our unemployment rate will go from 4% to

16:07

14%. And so, you'll have more

16:09

unemployment. But the people who are

16:11

employed,

16:13

some of them are gonna be like, "Damn,

16:14

rates are so cheap, honey. Let's go buy

16:15

a pool. let's go build a pool or

16:18

whatever. Uh, and I think that's what

16:20

Warren Buffett is seeing here by wanting

16:22

to invest in home builders and the pool

16:24

corporation. Flat in the worst interest

16:27

rate time uh implies good uh in in a

16:32

lower interest rate time. And I don't

16:34

know, maybe that's too too overly

16:36

simplified, but I look at this company,

16:39

they they don't exactly have like the

16:41

best balance sheet. So, I'm also

16:43

somewhat surprised because I know Warren

16:45

Buffett generally starts his analysis by

16:47

looking at the balance sheet. You know,

16:49

I've got $1.2 billion of long-term debt.

16:51

I've got bills to pay uh outside of I

16:54

don't even have deferreds over here.

16:56

I've got bills to pay of $800 million in

16:58

the next 12 months. Uh I have like no

17:01

cash. I've got $83 million in cash, but

17:04

I've got $1.3 billion in inventory. So,

17:06

I have to sell inventory to pay my

17:09

bills, which is fine. It's a

17:10

distributor, so of course they're going

17:12

to do that. But it's not a surprise that

17:14

they are borrowing. So I don't love the

17:17

balance sheet. That's I think that's

17:18

what's been keeping me away from wanting

17:20

to buy it. But I look at this. They're

17:23

borrowing on their credit line. You

17:25

know, net borrowing right here is about

17:27

what? $150 million borrowed right here.

17:30

And then maybe another 150 million

17:32

borrowed right here. So I've got about

17:33

net borrowing of about $300 million.

17:36

They gave about 250 of that away in

17:40

dividends and stock. That's what Buffett

17:44

likes as well. They're rebying the

17:45

stock. They're issuing dividends. Uh but

17:48

they're literally borrowing to do that.

17:51

Meanwhile, they're just chilling out lax

17:53

and lax and all cool and all waiting for

17:55

interest rates to come down and their

17:57

earnings are flat in the high interest

17:59

rate environment. So, it makes sense.

18:01

Now, in terms of an actual valuation for

18:02

the company, uh distributor, it's pretty

18:05

labor intensive. I probably would only

18:08

give this like a 1.67 peg price to

18:11

earnings growth ratio. Uh so, let's see

18:15

what they're trading for now. Uh let's

18:18

see. Pool pool investor relations.

18:23

This is the kind of analysis we like

18:24

doing in our course member live streams

18:26

as well, by the way. Uh almost a daily

18:28

basis. uh we're doing I mean we are

18:31

doing analysis on a daily basis but very

18:33

frequently we'll also do fundamental

18:34

analysis we did this morning uh we did

18:37

NBIS remember you you're in the course

18:39

member membership you get lifetime

18:40

access to all that analysis and you

18:42

could always re a lot of people go back

18:43

and play it back on 2x since we have the

18:46

recorded archive of it all but um pool

18:50

right now is trading

18:53

uh let's see here we've got a earnings

18:55

of about 11 bucks for the year ending

18:58

December number

19:01

and pool stock right now is trading for

19:03

about 321

19:04

divided by 11. That puts me at about a

19:07

29 times and then I've got growth. These

19:11

are current Wall Street growth numbers

19:13

which could be low. I've got growth over

19:15

the next four years of 11.5%.

19:19

Which implies a PEG ratio of

19:23

2.5. So it's definitely on the expensive

19:26

side. Like for me, I'd rather I

19:28

personally think they'll probably grow

19:30

more than this, but if they grow at 11%

19:32

on earnings and they've got EPS of about

19:35

11 uh and I give them a 1.67 peg, this

19:39

should be like a $200 stock. You know,

19:41

it's trading for 320 right now. So, like

19:44

it's too expensive for my buy level.

19:46

But, uh if I increase the growth rate

19:49

because I think we're going to go into a

19:50

refinance boom and I give them maybe a

19:52

20%. Okay. Okay. Well, if I give them a

19:55

20 uh at 1.67,

19:58

they should be about a $367 stock. So,

20:01

it's all going to come down to that

20:02

earnings growth. And I wouldn't be

20:04

surprised if the reason why Buffett went

20:05

for this is because he thinks that

20:07

either he doesn't trust the Wall Street

20:09

estimates or he thinks that the

20:10

company's going to grow more so than uh

20:13

you know, than than people expect, which

20:15

is possible. and again reiterates that

20:18

that focus on um expecting some kind of

20:23

like refinance boom or or whatever. Uh

20:27

that's that's my take on on that. But I

20:29

mean that's that's broadly what we pay

20:31

attention to uh when we're looking at

20:33

analysis. But broadly market is moving

20:36

in a relatively benign manner today. Uh

20:39

you know you've got some pain in even

20:41

pool down 3% in some of the real estate

20:43

plays. uh partly because of this bond

20:47

yield moving up rather than down like

20:49

what we've been seeing. So very

20:51

interesting, but uh it is what it is. So

20:55

we'll see. Probably getting ready for

20:57

CPI PPI tomorrow, the next day. I'll be

20:59

live on those at 5:30 in the morning. So

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look forward to seeing you there. And

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then remember to use coupon code bullish

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>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst

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and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great

21:21

to get your take.

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