Tesla Stock: New Fundamental Analysis & Price Targets.
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hey everyone me Kevin here we've got a
big update from Goldman Sachs on Tesla
price targets from Tesla we're going to
go test the spreadsheet and I'm going to
give you an update on what the heck
happened to my short position on Tesla
because yes last week I was short but I
closed that position right before the
market close on Thursday I'll give you
an update later in this video on what's
going on so and remember you always get
Buy sell alerts if you're a member of
the stocks and psychology of money group
everything I do with my stocks portfolio
and trading portfolio so first let's go
start with Goldman Sachs and give a
shout out to Troy teslike if you haven't
seen it yet I don't want to give away
his IP I'm not gonna do that but I am
going to shout him out he has his latest
estimates out on Twitter uh and he links
to his patreon I'm a member of his
patreon it's like five bucks a month
he's a good guy uh I've invited him on
for an interview but he's also a very
private guy so I respect that I respect
his privacy but I will say he's been
very good with estimating numbers for
Tesla deliveries and let's just say he
in the last 8 days has reduced his
estimate once again we are now down from
his last estimate another about
1.7% so the trend is down and it's a
good chunk below what analysts are
expecting I'll suggest that um it's
about 12% less than what analysts are
expecting and that depends on which
analyst expectations you use again not
trying to give it away but the point is
Troy's data not great I am also losing
my voice a little bit sorry about that
so Troy's data is not great we know that
but we've got to look at Goldman Sachs
then after we look at Goldman Sachs I
want to touch on something regarding
Tesla and Nvidia and I want to sort of
run this scenario by you I don't think
anybody's really talking about this and
I want your opinion on it I think it's a
really important thing to consider as a
Tesla investor okay
so excuse me oh my gosh it's so annoying
to be sick but take a look at this so
here they suggest that delivery
estimates in key regions uh per their
third-party sources are suggesting that
the first two months of the quarter are
up high single digits year-over year
high single digits would be let's say 7%
and in the first quarter last year we
did about 423,000 deliveries so let's
add about 78% that put us around 452 456
but they say they're down low double
digits quarter on quarter well that
would put you around 426 so you're
somewhere between 426 and
456 and last year q1 we did about
423 so let's go generous and go
456 divide that into the 423 of last
year puts us on the growth trajectory of
about
7% it's not just q1 though if we get a
second quarter in a row of 7% growth
starts creating a trend the markets
going to be a little disappointed by
that I believe I think there's a risk
factor of that now Goldman Sachs is
lowering their forecast for q1 to
435,000 they are moving their 2024
vehicle deliveries Target to
1.98 million that would represent annual
growth of roughly 1.98 divided by the
previous
99.3% so they're at about 99.3% growth
either way we're a far cry from
obviously the back in the day 50% growth
rate I've always been underwriting Tesla
at a longer run 30% growth rate so
seeing these numbers coming in in the 7
to 9% range it's not great and right now
there's no indication that we're
actually going to be able to escape 7 to
9% growth and and sort of the anchor
that is 7 to 9% growth for a period of
time that's a little bit concerning to
me in addition to the fact that year-to
dat year-over-year app downloads are
actually down year over year that's not
great so I want you to look at this here
were Peak deliveries for Tesla Q3 2023
and if you align that Peak with app
downloads we can actually see app
downloads in the US trending back down
to levels we kind of saw over here which
would be roughly q1 of last year so
maybe it's seasonal who knows that could
be
good take a screenshot of that if you'd
like that's from sensor Tower app
downloads I thought that was a very
interesting sort of point out but what
they mentioned here is we believe that
Tesla is being impacted by reduced EV
subsidies in Europe the Red Sea conflict
that's affecting shipments going into
Europe competition in China especially
with byd and slower demand overall than
had previously been expected by Goldman
Sachs analyst as a result they come to a
total projection of for 2026 2.75
million Vehicles okay well this isn't
fantastic because let's jump over here I
want you to see we're going to do some
price targeting here but first I want
you to understand this so let's say
we're at you know 1.81 million
deliveries we're going to grow that by
20% per year right let's say 20% instead
of 30 okay fine 20% per year gets us to
about 2.2 and
25 2.6 and
26 3.1 and 27
okay well what what is their pure
directory they're looking at
2.75 in let's take a look at that
2.75 uh down from 3 million in
2026 okay so let's go back make sure
we're doing this math right so this is
the 2023 number
2024 25 ah 26 sorry that would be 3.12
million in 26 so Goldman is actually
lower than that they're probably at
about 15% let's go with 15% yeah 2.75 so
they're at 15% compounded right 23 24 25
26 okay doing the math right 2.75
compounded or or to get to 2.75 you
compound a 15% growth rate that's their
target maybe Tesla will wildly beat it
and if that happens obviously we would
expect the stock to do very very well so
let's enter full screen here and go into
here let's say the average revenue per
vehicle is
$44,000 let's go with their estimate of
2.75 which I think is really low and
disappointing we're going to leave
everything else the same lease is 2%
Services 5% energy 10% FSD I'm going to
go with 2 and a. half% that'd be $3
billion a year we're not we're not even
seeing that right now but I'm just going
to leave it in there I don't want to
change too much I'm going to go with the
25% margin we'll come back and we'll
adjust that in a moment what does that
get us to at a 19% tax rate that gets us
to $643 of earnings in 2026 which had a
25 times multiple how do you get that
you multiply a 15% growth rate by 1.67
you get a price target of
$160 in
unfortunately 2 and a half years like
2.75 years right the end of 2026 so let
me drop this to 2.75 years that's about
a 9% expected return over the next 2.75
years that's not great
that's a 25% margin now if I go over
here and I move this to just uh a 20%
margin so the expense is uh uh you know
20% uh sorry the expenses are 80% rather
than 75% so we are putting in our pocket
20 cents out of every dollar as opposed
to 25 out of every dollar I'm making the
margin worse we're worsening the margin
by 5% if I worsen the margin on every
vehicle by 5% we actually go down to
about
$124 per share this is on a 2026 basis
using a PE of 25 with 15% growth so this
is a Growth Company it requires growth
so you could have all the margin you
want in the world but if you don't have
growth it's a problem now let's do a
little bit more of a generous move let's
go with the 20% growth Target so let's
go with the 3.1 we'll go 3.1 million 25%
margin and now we're going to have a 20%
growth factor so we can actually move
our PE ratio up our PE that we're going
to go with is 20 * 1.67 that puts us at
about
$242 by the end of 2026 if we can get
20% growth that means ah sorry I forgot
the present value I didn't update the
present value present value is like 173
there we go that gives you about a 133%
annual rate of return compounded now
because I forgot to change change the
present value I will quickly show you
the 15% version uh actually before we do
that let's change this to the worst case
scenario for margin oops there we go
expenses 80 puts you about 187 or a
growth of about 3% so like really good
scenarios getting back to 20% growth
which I think would require really
really low interest rates again to get
to went let's let's say we cut rates to
zero tomorrow okay tomorrow interest
rates is zero again how many how much
growth do we get at Tesla again honestly
I think probably back to
30% but we're not going to go to zero
tomorrow so let's say we go to 2 and a
half% tomorrow what do we get maybe then
we'll get our 20% growth 20 30% growth
maybe but we're not going to these low
rates anytime soon the fed's barely
interested right now in cutting at all I
think the earliest we're going to see a
cut is July and they're kind of going to
just slowly Kick the Can down the road
on us that's my opinion obviously if
your opinion is different and you think
inflation is falling more rapidly that's
fine that was my belief as well
unfortunately the last three months of
data the facts have
changed and and I think it would be
delusional to think that we're going to
get massive vehicle growth over the next
two
years I wish it were different but let's
change some numbers anyway let's let's
see what the bull case scenario would be
like okay so let's go with
2027 okay we're going to multiply this
by another
20% time 1.2
3.72
so this is a more bull case scenario and
yes I'm purposefully leaving out some of
the icing on the cake Dojo licensing
more FSD licensing I've already got FSD
Revenue in here uh $4 billion right at
95% Mar sorry at at 98% margin so I
think I'm already being very
generous uh anyway let's say they get
back to
25% uh on the uh the
margin and uh we're growing then at 20%
for 2026 now that gives us 3.75 years
that gives me a future price target of
almost $300 which what's interesting is
if you go to the Target over here on
Goldman they give you the bare case and
the bull case they think the bull case
scenario over the next two
years could be
$300 they think the bare case scenario
though could be 65 to
$85 which unfortunately is where Tesla
has some technical
Trends now I think it'd be a pretty
glorious buy if it got that low but the
question is I think people rioting out a
Tesla portfolio right now somebody who
has let's say $100,000 in Tesla you have
to say to yourself if we went down to 65
do you have the capacity to keep buying
because you're about to see
potentially a 63% draw down which means
if you had 100,000
and you go down 63% you're left with
$37,000 I mean that's like the bare
scenario there obviously the hope is
that we get that 300 number but I don't
know that we can get that the 300 number
when the facts are telling us to our
face that right now best case scenario
let's look at the best case scenario
growth again and then I want to talk to
you about this Nvidia uh idea that I
have so they think 2.75 Million by 20 26
maybe rates will actually be lower then
but uh they also give you some growth
rates over here 99.3% well that's not
good do we have anything good here let's
see q1 volumes I mean honestly even if
you
get 450 or four call it 460,000
deliveries because we're going to talk
about that price increase in a moment
let's say you get 460 divide that by 423
is it's about 88.7% growth we're nowhere
near even 15% growth we're not even
breaking 10% growth so we're less than
10% growth right now with the actual
data Troy's numbers Goldman's numbers
the street analyst numbers are coming
down now the stock is obviously up and
we're going to talk about that short
position so the Stock's up why is the
stock up was because we had a $1,000
price increase on the vehicles this
weekend and we have
FSD 12.3 I have to say I didn't like
12.1 12.2 that much 12.3
I love it it's very good it's very very
good I don't have anything bad to say
about it it just fixed some of the
nonsense of the early versions of the
tws so very good job $1,000 price
increase good now this could be one of
two things one demand is
high that's probably not
that number two it's a trick it's a
manipulation to say hey buy this quarter
because the numbers are so bad
that we will do whatever we can just
prop up the quarter one more
quarter because we got a problem we need
to pull forward some demand maybe things
will be better in the second quarter is
the Hope and so they're trying to Signal
a price bottom for Teslas get people to
rush in and buy before prices go up it's
possible I mean after all we think
there's a good chance we're going to end
up getting to doubling the prices on our
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learn more so yeah there are like that
that is a strategy now I think that
works for us because we're providing
more value we're giving you more
speakers and more clarity on everything
that's being done the venue everything
so as we release more value the price
goes up
anyway in this case you're trying to
Signal a bottom I think it's mostly a
trick uh however it it can have the
third consequence of signaling a bottom
so it's not a bad strategy that combined
with FSD 12.3 led to a little bit of a
move in stock today quite a bit it was
up like 5 5 to 6% or something like that
now we'll talk about short talk about
two things here first I want to talk to
you about
Nvidia and then I want to talk to you
about short all right
so some left a comment and I I think
they're intelligent they said hey you
know Tesla's way ahead in terms of the
data they've collected for their
vehicles who else is collecting data on
vehicles and they haven't even gone
through FSD version 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 yes yes this is true well I have a
question for you and and this is a
legitimate question especially for you
computer scientists out there
Tesla uh fsd1
1211 was coded right so is AI plus
thousands of lines of code tens of
thousands of line of code
right Tesla 12 is all neural
net so in other
words Tesla took data and trained it
within the last
year so what did Tesla do in the last
year well they bought a bunch of h100
chips from Nvidia they bought
10,000 h100 chips and then Elon Musk
started poo pooing on dojo in the last
earnings call that kind of pissed me off
because I'm like bro why are you poo
pooing on your stuff is is it really
just not that good I mean we know we got
the b100s now that we're competing with
too but it felt a little defeatist I
think Elon took a little bit of a
negative point of view but the point is
I want you to think of this what if
Tesla 12 is actually really Tesla FST
1.0 neural net okay well then what
separates a company let's call it
company Z okay what separates company Z
from getting to FSD
1.0 well 10,000 h100s right but it's not
just that it's the data
right we need uh geographical data
geographically uh diverse data uh
vehicle
diversity uh driver diversity to get an
average you know you don't want to train
based off you know a few people because
if they have bad habits those all get
trained in you want to try to take the
best of everything right
so what if there was a company company Z
that had the
data and we haven't been paying
attention to it well if they had the
data can they not also train an FSD 1.0
very
rapidly yeah they probably could which
means Tesla's lead which maybe Tesla
will end up being at you know 1
point7 by that time I don't know maybe
they'll even be at 2.0 the point is the
lead that appears to be there for Tesla
FST starts to
shrink well what's a company that has
already partnered with Volvo
Mercedes
byd already
today in automotive Drive technology
it's also a company that used to be
partnered with Tesla what company does
this and what company is openly saying
openly saying they're going to compete
with Tesla by q1 2025 in
fstd you should know by now because I
literally teased it Nvidia I wrote it
right
there I want to hear your comments on
this so this is me transparently
thinking I do think Tesla has a massive
Advantage but I do wonder is that
Advantage declining because remember
this they said that it would take a GPT
uh or or to training a GPT would take 90
days on the the h100 training a GPT
would take 90 days with 1/4 the compute
with the b00 in other words to get to
that same level of fsd1 it's going to be
even easier to train faster with the
latest chips so your ability to catch up
is
accelerating just
sucks okay and then obviously you got
the f
now I said we talk short let's talk
short I may be transparent
here so on
Thursday uh around 12:50 p.m. I closed
my
short uh I'm up about 30k on that option
in 24 hours that was cool took
tendies simple uh I thought there would
be a tactical bounce on Mon on Friday
got it we got the bounce
Friday then what happened well over the
weekend we got two sets of news onek up
and FSD 123 which I got as well and it
is good okay be transparent
here so what happened after we got that
well not only did we have bounce Friday
we had basically a rally Monday which is
great but now that
News is here we have the news
and where are we stuck we're really
stuck at a 175
resistance now is it possible that we
could break out of the
175 absolutely it's absolutely possible
however what does the market start
pricing in tomorrow the FED meeting at
least at the time of this recording
Nasdaq futures are down 24% basis points
it's probably in part because of a by
the rumor selda news on Nvidia but going
into the FED meeting I am nervous so
when I saw Tesla up 5 to 6% today I
shorted it again so I am short again but
I was not short when it went up on
Friday and I was not short when it went
up this
morning I did go short and I think kind
of went up a little bit more but that's
like a 10% shift 10 to 13% shift in
value uh which on short-term options
isn't that big of a deal but um we'll
see I'm not optimistic about the FED
meeting so I'm actually playing a triple
short uh I'm calling it a triple short
strategy one of them uh of this triple
short strategy I'll be transparent uh
about well you know one of them one of
them is Tesla uh I have another
short and I'm GNA make a video on uh
this one tomorrow so we're GNA call this
one the uh
uh it's a 3 to four beta on the market
and so I'm short this particular stock
because it's up against some pretty
severe resistance and I think it's
there's a really good opportunity on
this and I'll reveal that one tomorrow
uh and then I'll give you a heads up on
this one now I did on the idea of a buy
the rumor sell the news I went short arm
so I have a triple short
strategy uh their uh their options and
uh yeah that's a full transparent update
on everything that's going on so we got
Troy test like check him out on Twitter
we've got Goldman Sachs we've got this
update on what what where my positioning
is because I want to be transparent with
my thoughts about what could happen with
uh FSD and competition I still think
Tesla is way ahead of everybody else I
do think there's a chance that Nvidia
actually is collecting way more on the
road data than than we can even imagine
right now and they're probably already
running way more Sims than we think
so I'm bearish and I'm also using the
signal of quite frankly Bitcoin as as
another sign let me show you what's
happening with Bitcoin right now sorry I
really need to get a switch for this
there we go I have um I have to unplug
this HDMI and I just need to get a
little button and then I have to replug
it in to do certain things it's very
inconvenient but I will fix that uh this
is what I want to show you it's my
Windows computer I actually really like
it
everything else is Mac but here's my
Windows computer so I've been tracking
Bitcoin and uh as you can see we're
having serious problems at that 69 fiby
but we're also getting a uh you know
downtrend that I I have marked on my Mac
I guess it doesn't transfer over here
but I'm tracking this downtrend right
here and uh this is not great we're
getting a little bit of uh you know can
you can you potentially draw you know
something like like
this I mean clearly we just broke out of
it so it doesn't really matter much but
we have some issues here this is pretty
messy
but I don't know if there are inflows
left for the ETFs or why this is
happening personally I'm sure there's
there are plenty of inflows left but I
think what this is is a little bit of a
riskof trade after uh or in anticipation
of the Federal Reserve that's my take on
this and so the downtrend has what begun
there is a potential fourth short
position that I'm going to take tomorrow
and it's related to bitcoin and
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