Yes, Jobs were Bad. BUT...
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Hey, so it's the evening before job
numbers. Here's what you need to know.
We'll keep it quick. We'll keep it
brief. 75,000, that's the number we're
looking for. The jobs uh numbers come
out at 5:30 in the morning tomorrow.
I'll be covering them. There are a few
things to know going into this though.
First of all, challenger job cut levels
this morning were pretty high. The
pharmaceutical industry, for example,
highest sectoral layoffs since the
global financial crisis. We haven't seen
pharmaceutical layoffs this high. And
it's really interesting because healthc
care has been an industry that uh a has
actually been helping prop up jobs uh
over the last 6 to 12 months here, but
also recently has been performing really
poorly in the stock market. Uh there are
two sectors that have really been
lagging in the stock market. one is real
estate and one is healthcare. Real
estate is interesting because a lot of
people say, "Hey, as rates go down, real
estate is going to be sort of the next
sector to invest in." Healthcare though,
I don't know if it has that sort of
sectoral tailwind. You know what I'm
saying? So, uh you're definitely seeing
uh probably an AI related impact here as
well, but this is quite a big increase.
Of course, top comment here is this is
just the RFK recession. Good one. Uh,
another thing to know is obviously
today's ADP numbers came in uh, weaker
on the weaker side. I was really looking
for something with a six in the front.
We got 54 somewhat, you know, lower than
expected. But I want you to know when
it's not that bad, it's really important
to remember functionally how this market
responds. When we get not that bad, we
actually end up getting good. Uh, I sent
an alert in my Discord earlier. uh
because it was just it was relative to
the alpha report that we sent this
morning and this was in our alpha report
this morning. You could see it
documented on where we send our PDF
reports out. Like you can't change it
after the fact, but I wrote uh this
suggests see markets will probably
discount ADP and challenger the
challenger layoffs this morning in favor
of decent claim numbers. This suggests a
Q's bounce today, but nervous before
tomorrow morning is still possible,
right? So, in other words, like, hey,
we're probably going to bounce on the
Q's today tentatively. Like, we're not
talking about like big yolo here, but
I'd look for a bounce at 569 and I would
play the upside. And I kid you not, I
sent this out in the pre-market right
here. Look at where we bounced within 3
cents of 569. And boys and girls
straight up from there. This is the kind
of stuff you want in your alpha report
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>> Bullish catalyst. You get lifetime
access. That's the kind of stuff we like
to do. You can't obviously always nail
it like that, but we do our best to hit
as many times as we can and give you the
perspective of how we come up with this
stat every day. So, uh, but the point is
tomorrow I think the same thing is going
to be true. I'm going to Sorry, I ate
way too much watermelon. I'm like packed
full of watermelon here. You ever do
that? And it just like it sits like a
pit in your stomach. I just go to town
on watermelon. But anyway, what you got
to know is if tomorrow we end up getting
a jobs report that's sort of like a
little bit of a miss to the downside.
Look, we're expecting 75. Say honestly,
we get 50 60 something like that. Who
cares? Even if we get revisions that
say, "Oh, we're even 10 20k lower than
before that." It's going to be enough to
give us confirmation that we're going to
get the 25 BP cut and then we're on with
it. We'll get a 25 basis point cut.
Everybody's just going to go break even
levels or lower on jobs report. Call it
a day. The next, you know, potentially
bearish catalyst, the opposite of
bullish catalyst. The bearish catalyst
is probably going to be when we get our
QCW revisions. Goldman Sachs is
projecting that we could see QCEW
revisions uh that are some of the
highest that we have seen since 2010.
Potentially a QCEW revision of up to
950,000
jobs to the downside. Largest revision
since 2010 coming. Now these are the
annual revisions that you get sort of
every 6 months. And Donald Trump is
already on Truth Social yapping about uh
we you know don't worry about the job
numbers tomorrow. We won't know the real
numbers for for a year from now. So
Donald Trump is already punting like ah
the job numbers don't matter on a
monthly basis anyway. You have to wait
for the real numbers in a year from now.
Well, we'll be in a big fat recession if
we wait that long. We need a Fed that's
responsive to these job numbers.
Uh best case scenario for markets is we
get some kind of jobs report tomorrow
that gives us something like uh you know
50,000 it's cooler 60,000 and then we
get kind of like what we saw today. You
bounce at something you get a little bit
of nervousness. Oh man, those numbers
weren't that great. And then you go but
you know unemployment claims were okay.
There's still greenshoots and ISM
services and S&P services today. Yeah,
we're seeing more inventory building and
we're seeing fewer future orders which
isn't good, but it's still expansionary.
Yeah, people were pulling forward
because of tariffs, but you know, things
are still overall expanding just at a
little bit of a slower rate. And
frankly, that is what a soft landing is,
right? A soft landing is GDP that's
below trend. And if trend is 2 and a
half% and GDP is running at two or 1.75,
technically that's a soft landing. And
so the market will cheer that I think.
Now where things get scary is if we get
some kind of really negative read like
you know 14,000 jobs and negative
revisions. That's when we start pricing
in 50 basis points. That's when the
10-year yield plummets. Uh that's when
TLT goes to the moon. That's when we
really start our more aggressive rate
cutting cycle. Donald Trump sort of
freaks out. The market has a short-term
heart attack. Uh but really it's gonna
be great for the rate cycle. I mean,
look at what's happened here on some of
these latest rates here, uh, rate
movements. We are down on the 10-year to
4.15. I mean, look at this. This is a
crazy movement over the last 5 days. Uh,
just two days ago, we were sitting at
4.3 4.31ish.
We've dropped about 15 basis points just
this week. You know, go out over the
last 3 months. I mean, we were at 4 1/2.
We were at 4.51 there for a moment. go
back, you know, to the beginning of the
year, year to date, we were at 4.77.
I mean, rates have already started
substantially trending down. Again,
really supportive for real estate. Don't
tell anyone, okay? Cuz, you know, we we
got to do the buying before everybody
else does. You know what I'm saying? We
got to we got to work on this together.
But, I mean, just put it this way. I
think there's a reason people put seven
figures into house hack last month. Uh,
and you know, this month today, I think
we're almost over $200,000 of of
fundraises. Uh, which which is
incredible because, you know, we only
started taking money 2 days ago in in in
this month because, you know, Tuesday is
the first business day this month. But
look at the downtrend, you know, on the
10-year here. This is great. This is
your year-to- date 10ear trend. So, it's
great, but it is a symptom of a
weakening labor market and a Fed that's
realizing or hopefully waking up to the
idea that, oh, we're going to have to
we're going to have to do some work here
to prevent some serious damage. Uh, now,
hey, look, I mean, don't don't call me
uh, you know, someone who's just the
perma bear. I've got exposure to the
stock market, too. Uh, but what we
really want and so I'm by no means
looking for like a bad number tomorrow.
I personally think best case scenario,
give us anything 40 and above. 40 and
above and and like I'm going down. You
know, yesterday I said give us 60 and
above. I didn't get it. So now I'm going
to reduce my expectations. I'm going to
go guys guys just just give us 40 and
above and if we get 40 and above it's
fine. People are going to be like this
fine that's just the new break even
rate. You know that's where Waller is
going to go guys this is a really bad
break even rate and then people will
have complaints and stuff about that.
But I will say Parker Loss had a great
thread here. Uh, and I've been on X
very, very little lately, but the things
that have gotten fed just in the few
minutes I've been on have been great. I
mean, we broke down Challenger this
morning and Parker did a great uh chart
piece here. So, what they did is they
compared the precoid trend to where we
sit now with layoffs. And you can see
that layoffs are substantially higher
than where we sat precoid. So kind of
like I mean here are the Doge cuts big
spike but those post Doge cuts are
definitely well elevated above what we
saw in 22 3 and four and above co
precoid. So not great in terms of job
cuts could be a normalization still
because of all that excess hiring after
COVID and then of course you know AI is
obviously helping as well. I mean, just
with technology, I feel like my uh, you
know, office is for house, we're able to
do so much more with technology today
than we've ever been able to do before.
It's it's really really exciting to us.
Uh, and and we just feel like we're
we're happy because we're so much more
productive members of of sort of our
economy with fewer labor expenses. This
is great. Uh, now for some finer details
that aren't as widely reported.
Challenger also reports announced hiring
plans every month. So we can compare
those to pre-COVID norms. Announced
hiring plans obviously extremely low
over here. Uh and then uh that was kind
of it in terms of the enthusiasm that he
had here. Of course, labor force
participation. Other people are
circulating charts of labor force
participation declining. Some of this is
an aging society. Some of this is
immigration. You know, it's always very
difficult to bet against America. Uh and
so this is why I always say get coupon
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luck tomorrow. I'm optimistic. Just
anything above 40, man. And and we could
get yields trending down a little bit.
We confirm the 25. Maybe we even price
in a little bit of 50, we're good. We
get a negative number, we're definitely
getting 50. We hell, we could even get
emergency cuts. We get a negative
number. Anyway, I'll be live tomorrow. I
love you all. Have a great
>> Why not advertise these things that you
told us here? I feel like nobody else
knows about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you.
>> Kevin Papra there, financial analyst and
YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great to
get your take.
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