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Well, it looks like the government

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shutdown is upon us and we might not get

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a lot of different data from the Bureau

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of Labor Statistics, which is really

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critical this week. Yesterday, we heard

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the BLS tell us that they will stop

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reporting any government data in any

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statistical work if the government shuts

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down. The government is now less than 24

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hours away from a shutdown. And this is

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really unfortunate because this week we

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do have some catalysts which we were

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hoping would be bullish catalysts. As

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you can see uh on screen here you've got

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job openings that came in this morning

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which we'll talk about in just a moment

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because Nick T has some charts for us on

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these. We can also see that uh the ADP

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private survey which is expected to come

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out tomorrow set up a survey of about 50

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to 51k 51 on the Doomberg and 40 uh

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sorry 50 over here. And then we can see

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the initial uh claims data and the

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non-farm payrolls data. These are the

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ones that we got to pay attention to

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because both of these could end up

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getting halted if the US government

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shuts down. Both of them. Just minutes

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ago, the Bureau of Labor Statistics came

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out and reiterated that they will not

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release unemployment claims data on

1:10

Thursday uh if the government shuts

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down. It is likely that they also will

1:14

not release payrolls data because that's

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what they said yesterday. Yesterday they

1:20

said we won't be releasing payrolls

1:21

data. Today they're saying we're not

1:22

going to release unemployment claims

1:23

data. So it sounds like if the

1:25

government shuts down we're not going to

1:26

get anything. Now yesterday I'm going to

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save you the 20 minutes from actually

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watching it. But yesterday we had Jay

1:32

Vance flanked by Vbot uh and Thoon and

1:37

Johnson uh come out and basically say

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we're heading towards a shutdown. Uh

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that's because JD Vance says that

1:45

Democrats want medical funding for

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illegal immigrants.

1:50

This is not what Democrats are looking

1:52

for, but this is what Republicans are

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using to brand the Democrats hold up to

1:58

make it look unpopular for Democrats to

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cause the shutdown, which of course

2:02

would just lead to Donald Trump being

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able to fire as many people as he

2:06

possibly can, which is exactly what

2:09

Donald Trump wants to do. So my

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anticipation is we are almost certainly

2:14

going into a shutdown because it gives

2:16

Donald Trump what he wants. We already

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know this. We saw the Washington Post

2:20

article and we also see the Bloomberg

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headline this morning. Trump threatens a

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lot of firings as deadlines loom. Yes,

2:27

we know Trump wants to do this because

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he could blame Democrats for it. Look,

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remember, Democrats are looking for

2:34

extensions of the ACA, the Obamacare

2:38

credits, especially now that we're at

2:40

medical enrollment time. Republicans are

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saying, "Let's deal with that later."

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But the problem is at the beginning of

2:45

enrollment time is when you're going to

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start seeing price changes and

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enrollment time starts roughly now for

2:52

insuranceances where they start building

2:53

out their pricing. Most enrollments

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really done in November. So if we kick

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the can down the road until after the

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holidays, it'll be too late and people

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lock in higher health care costs for the

3:03

next year through the Affordable Care

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Act. That said, you've also got

3:08

Democrats who are looking for funding to

3:10

be returned to Medicaid. Now, Medicaid

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funding, somewhere around a trillion

3:15

dollars of Medicaid funding was cut in

3:17

the big beautiful bill. That's because,

3:19

you know, the big beautiful bill is

3:20

estimated at like a $3.3 trillion cost.

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It would have been like $4.3 trillion if

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they didn't cut Medicaid. So, Medicaid

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really helped reduce the appearance of

3:30

the cost of the big beautiful bill. So,

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of course, you know, Republicans are

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like, "Oh, we don't want that back in

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cuz that's just going to make our tax

3:37

cuts look more expensive." Okay, so

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that's where the stand still is right

3:42

now. Republicans are like, "Just give us

3:44

a clean resolution. We'll debate all

3:45

these other things later." Well, the

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problem is we know that Republicans

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don't need to debate anything with

3:51

Democrats. So, Democrats take the

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opportunity that they can get, which is

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a government shutdown negotiation where

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you need 60 votes to keep the government

3:59

funded basically, and they use that as

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an opportunity to try to leverage and

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get what they want and create some at

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least some sign of backbone for

4:08

midterms. That's also what this is about

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is standing up for what each side wants

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to posture for midterms. Problem is, I

4:16

really think Donald Trump wants a

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shutdown. Now, what is that good for and

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what is it not good for? Well, that's

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exactly what we're going to break down.

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Uh because there's some data, frankly,

4:26

on this. Uh just worth knowing as we go

4:29

into this. Uh if the government shuts

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down, we end up hiding unemployment

4:33

claims data. We hide jobs data that

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comes out on Friday. So, we're really

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left with just the ADP numbers for

4:39

tomorrow. It lets VA fire people or

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vote, I guess, is how you say his name.

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Fire people, which is what he said.

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That's what he outlined from project

4:46

2025. That's what he wants. It prevents

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spending on Obamacare and Medicaid,

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which is what Trump wants. It basically

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gives Trump exactly what he wants,

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smaller government. So, a shutdown is

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kind of perfect for him. Now, it comes

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at a time where we have some economic

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weakness. I mean, look, the Chicago

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Business Barometer dipped in September,

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but it's not just that it dipped in

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September, and this is seen even though

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it's a survey of the Chicago area. The

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the company says they're a leading

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national indicator, that's how they

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pitch their own survey. So, it's

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probably a little bit biased in that

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sense, but keep in mind what they say

5:19

here. They say that uh the largest

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proportion of respondents is now

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reporting the smallest level of

5:26

employments of employment growth since

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the immediate aftermath of the 2008

5:30

financial crisis. And usually after a

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financial crisis, that's when you have

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the worst job numbers. And they're

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basically saying we have the worst job

5:38

numbers right now in this leading

5:40

indicator per them since the financial

5:43

crisis.

5:45

uh and that we are seeing a decline

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driven by quote another sharp slowdown

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in new orders alongside declines in

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supplier deliveries and employment. So

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basically you're seeing parts of the

5:56

economy that are sending these warning

5:58

signs of hey like things are slowing

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down. Trump doesn't want anything to

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look like things are slowing down. So

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it's beneficial to him to have a delay

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of some of these unemployment surveys.

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Look at under and understand how these

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government shutdowns work. Congress gets

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partially closed. Federal courts say

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open. The housing department is

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partially closed. The Treasury

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Department is partially closed. The IRS

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is mostly closed during a government

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shutdown. Keep in mind like you have

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personal tax extensions due October

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15th. Like this is this is tax season.

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You just had corporations that had

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quarterly earnings due on September

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15th. You had uh uh corporate uh reports

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due September 15th for a lot of

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companies. A lot of uh reporting

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companies have uh six-month reporting

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requirements that are due today,

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although that's more SEC for September

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30th. So, you got a lot going on. The

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Federal Reserve stays open. Small

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businesses uh Small Business

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Administration partially closed. Museums

6:55

and part parks partially closed. So, you

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know, government shutdown is going to

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hit some things. Now, what like how does

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the market usually respond? Well,

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Doomberg suggests that usually in a

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government shutdown, you get mixed

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effects. Goldman says this as well. One

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thing that seems to be a consensus is

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that yields tend to go down. So take a

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look at this chart right here. This is

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the 10-year Treasury yield change from

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day before shutdown. So this is the last

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day of open. And you can see that yields

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tend and they're volatile, but yields

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tend to trend down after a government

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shutdown. Even when you reopen, yields

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tend to just move a little bit lower.

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Now the rationale for that is associated

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with fear. People are fearful uh and so

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they move to potentially the safety of

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bonds. This comes at the same time that

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you have fears that the labor market is

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softening a lot more than expected. Now

7:55

in fairness this morning we got Jolts

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data that was pretty good. Well at least

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decently good. The Jolts data was along

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expectations maybe even slightly better

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than expectations. But Nick T gave us a

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warning. He said, "Look at the ratio of

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job openings to unemployed workers." And

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when you look at this ratio, you

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actually find that we're dropping below

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the one level on the 3-month moving

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average. The Fed is targeting one. We

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want the labor market to be such that if

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we have 7 million unemployed people, we

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have 7 million job openings. That's a

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1:1 ratio. The problem is we now sit at

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977

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uh 978

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basically 978. And we can calculate that

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by using the household survey of uh

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7,384,000

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unemployed individuals in the household

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survey, which is literally lifted from

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this chart right here. You can get all

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this data, by the way, that's written

8:53

down in the Meet Kevin app. It's

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literally free. Download the Me Kevin

8:57

app, press data, and you can see all of

8:59

this. Okay? Uh and then you if when you

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divide these two, you get a ratio that's

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below one now. So that's how many people

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are unemployed by job openings. So the

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job openings number is slowing. That

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might be why markets are pricing in a

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96.7%

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chance of a rate cut in October. October

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29th is when we have our next rate cut.

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Now what happens if the Fed stays closed

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until then or or rather uh the the

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government? Well, we might not actually

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get our jobs data. We might not give the

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Federal Reserve the ammunition they need

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to give us another rate cut. Now look at

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the S&P 500. This is why I always say

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generally, and I've been saying this for

9:38

days, usually government shutdowns are

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buy the dip opportunity, unless of

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course you have some kind of shocker in

9:43

the labor market this time. So in the

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S&P 500, typically once the government

9:49

reopens, you go straight up. So when the

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government shuts down, you had a low and

9:53

you go straight up. So almost always a

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buy the dip opportunity uh on on the you

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know um

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your your your S&P 500 over here and you

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can sort of look at these different

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levels here. You got 2018 20 uh January

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over here you're up you're up you're up.

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There have been cases where you're down

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though. You can see this sort of dotted

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line over actually yeah over here 1990.

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So not always but more often than not

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you trend up. Same with the 10-year

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Treasury yield except in reverse. So

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bonds gain in value but their yields

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trend down almost all of the lines here

10:30

below zero and then the US dollar does

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tend to slip a bit uh afterwards. So

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this is somewhat interesting data. Uh

10:38

now Donald Trump believes this morning

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along with Chuck Schumer both of them

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actually Donald Trump was last night,

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Chuck Schumer was this morning. Chuck

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Schumer this morning says we are heading

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towards the shutdown. Donald Trump said

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the same thing yesterday in an interview

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with Politico, which I could show you in

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just a moment. But take a look at uh

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this.

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Government compensation of employees

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represents about 1.2% of GDP. So it's

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not like the largest factor as part of

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GDP. And discretionary spending, which

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gets paused in a government shutdown,

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only represents about 25% of the

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government spending. So, it's not like

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it's the, you know, the employees are

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the core driver of the economy at the

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Fed, uh, federal government, or that,

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you know, government discretionary

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spending is a core driver here. That's

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not the case at all. That's probably why

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they're usually a government shutdown.

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Last time in 2013 over here, we delayed

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Bureau of Labor Statistics data by 18

11:32

days. The risk now is if we delay and we

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end up having a long government shutdown

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like we did over here, we actually might

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not give the Federal Reserve the

11:41

unemployment data that they need for the

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October 29th deadline.

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October 29th is when the Fed makes their

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rate decision. And the next one, we

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don't have a Fed meeting at all in

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November. So the next meeting then isn't

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until December 10th where we're pricing

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in a combined cumulative chance of uh or

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or total of 1.73 cuts. So, we're not

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fully pricing in those two rate cuts

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this year. This unemployment report was

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really supposed to be the data that

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tells us, are we going to get a soft

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landing or not? Employment in the DC

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area has fallen this year, of course,

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cuz Trump wants to fire a lot of people.

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Most furled workers do not get counted

12:19

in unemployment numbers. So, just

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because these workers are going to get

12:22

furled, you're generally not going to

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see them show up in the unemployment

12:25

reports. They're not filing for

12:26

unemployment. They're just doing their

12:28

job without getting paid. So, usually

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these shutdowns just not a big deal. The

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only issue is delaying our data. That's

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the pisser. We don't want to delay our

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data. Uh and and that is unfortunately

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exactly what might happen this time. Uh

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as again, as you can see here, the big

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ones being claims. I personally don't

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care about the weekly data. I think it's

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a very volatile and noisy number and it

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doesn't really matter. Uh and then of

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course non-farm payrolls. Those are

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going to be the ones that get delayed.

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Now, I'm a little bearish, ad bearish

13:04

the last two days. The last two days in

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the Me Kevin Alpha report, I've been

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saying, "Hey, like I think Q's are going

13:10

to go down. I don't think you want to

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like bet on some skyrocketing cues

13:13

here." Uh because frankly, I think

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people aren't pricing in the risk that

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we're going to shut down. And I think

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Donald Trump wants to shut down. Uh and

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so what I've been saying in the alpha

13:22

report, I mean, it happened. I mean,

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look at the cues yesterday, you know. Uh

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let's get rid of this. Look at the Q's

13:27

yesterday. The Q's ran up uh and that

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was only for like the first 30 minutes

13:34

and then what happened? The Q's closed

13:36

lower and bled for the rest of the day

13:38

and now we're right on the cues again.

13:40

So, you know, that's not because I'm

13:42

bearish the economy right now. It's

13:44

because I recognize that usually leading

13:47

into a government shutdown and leading

13:48

into data, you get weakness. This is the

13:51

kind of technical, you know, analysis

13:53

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anyway, uh you know, my take is that

14:22

over the next, you know, few weeks, the

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best thing that could happen is we end

14:28

up getting uh how should I put it? Over

14:31

the next few weeks, what we want to get

14:34

are the best possible job numbers to

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finally confirm a rounding out of the

14:39

labor market. That would be the best

14:40

case scenario. Donald Trump's layoffs I

14:43

actually don't think are that huge

14:47

of a deal because this is just Donald

14:50

Trump's MMO anyway. Donald Trump

14:53

threatens a lot of fires firings. Yeah,

14:55

but people don't look at government

14:57

firings as really like weakness for the

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government anyway. The White House last

15:02

week directed agencies to draw plans for

15:04

mass firings. Uh this will be the 14th

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government shutdown. This bill doesn't

15:08

have an iota of Democratic input, says

15:10

Schumer yesterday. I watched the full

15:12

video yesterday of what Republicans are

15:14

saying or what Democrats are saying.

15:17

Like there will be a path to them

15:19

getting the government reopened. I'm not

15:21

worried about that. Uh but it is

15:24

extremely likely in my opinion we will

15:26

shut down before we get to that that

15:28

stage and that's okay. I think that's

15:30

why Khi is showing an 82% chance of a

15:32

government shutdown. I also think, you

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know, this is correct when Politico says

15:38

that, you know, Donald Trump thinks,

15:40

"I'm not worried about people thinking

15:42

that it's Republicans's fault that

15:43

there's a shutdown." Exactly. Uh we have

15:47

Donald Trump who's blaming Democrats and

15:50

it gives them an opportunity to fire

15:52

people like generals. See, Trump says

15:55

he'll fire generals on the spot if he

15:57

dislikes them.

15:59

That's the situation we're in right now.

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So what does that mean broadly? Well, it

16:05

means gold up like qu like frankly. Uh

16:08

and the reason gold's going up on the

16:10

shutdown fears is because of a safety

16:13

asset. This happens every single time

16:16

you get uncertainty with a lack of data

16:18

or uncertainty in the stock market.

16:19

Yields down on bonds. So bonds up and

16:21

gold up. But usually it's a buy the dip

16:24

opportunity for the stock market almost

16:27

always. So uh we'll see. But uh again,

16:31

the only thing that could really screw

16:32

it up right now would be bad jobs. Adam,

16:34

we need to round this out. Oh, that's

16:36

interesting. Tesla's now down 1.4%.

16:38

Yeah, I was bearish on Tesla as well the

16:40

last two days. So, I called the 414

16:43

bounce and then yesterday morning in the

16:45

alpha report, Tesla was trading at like

16:47

447. And I'm like, guys, look, we're in

16:51

no man's land. Okay, the N Kevin Alpha

16:54

report, you could fact check me on this

16:55

yesterday. It's in the report yesterday.

16:58

We talked about it today as well.

16:59

Tesla's in no man's land.

17:02

It's probably trending back to 414. And

17:04

I think a lot of the enthusiasm around

17:06

uh the deliveries coming up next week

17:08

are probably a lot of that enthusiasm

17:11

probably built in uh which which then

17:14

just creates downside risk you know

17:16

along with the broader economy right now

17:18

which is on a downtrend. So again 80%

17:21

chance of a shutdown. It's basically a

17:23

foregone conclusion right now, which

17:24

unfortunately means we're going to get

17:26

delays with our government data, which

17:28

sucks because that's what we want to

17:30

confirm with soft land. Again, we want

17:33

growth in those labor numbers. Again, we

17:35

talked about this yesterday that most

17:37

institutions actually are forecasting uh

17:41

growth in the labor numbers. I mean,

17:44

look at this. Most of the estimates,

17:47

which haven't really changed, I'll

17:48

verify. Most of the estimates are that

17:50

we are going to soft land and get really

17:53

great data.

17:55

So best case scenario, the government

17:57

doesn't shut down. We get really bullish

18:00

job numbers and then what happens? S&P

18:02

610, man. Actually, potentially towards

18:04

630 by end of the year. I got to stop

18:06

giving out price targets that I usually

18:08

only do in the me Kevin Alpha report.

18:11

Um, okay. So, non-farm payrolls. Let me

18:14

get the latest estimate here because it

18:16

changes all the time. So if I go to

18:21

change of non-form payrolls, the current

18:23

estimate is 51,000. I just want to see

18:26

if it changed at all in the last 24.

18:29

So it looks like yesterday we had 58

18:32

qualified economists. Now we have 65.

18:37

Nobody on the downside, dude.

18:41

Wow. It's it's one guy. one guy at -20,

18:46

but the chart's basically not changed

18:48

and we had seven more estimates. I can't

18:51

even see where the delta is cuz it looks

18:53

so similar. Uh, it moved up. Actually,

18:57

the average estimate moved up.

19:00

It's at 56.4

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and you've got pretty much everybody is

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above 30,000.

19:09

Uh, so

19:12

that's wild.

19:16

That's wild. I'm When I'm talking about

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the Q's, I'm talking about the triple

19:19

Q's.

19:23

Kevin, when would we get the jobs report

19:24

if the government shuts down and we

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don't get it this Friday? Well, uh, in

19:28

2013, we got it when the government

19:29

reopened.

19:31

So, when they all showed back up to

19:32

work. So, that sucks. You know, that's

19:38

that's a long ways out.

19:41

Uh because this shutdown,

19:45

this is an opportunity for Democrats to

19:49

really try to f with Trump. But

19:52

ironically, Trump wants this because

19:54

then he's going to get to go around and

19:56

fire a ton of people. So,

20:02

I love buying the dip on government

20:04

shutdowns, and I probably will. What

20:06

I'll probably do is I'll buy the dip on

20:09

my 10-year stocks because remember I

20:11

have a list of 10 stocks to buy for the

20:12

next 10 years. Those are not stocks that

20:14

I think are like guaranteed going to do

20:16

great in the next 6 months. They're

20:18

stocks that are just slowly building out

20:20

like portfolios in that I'm not going to

20:22

sell between now and the next 10 years.

20:24

I'm just going to hodddle them and I'm

20:25

going to keep building them. In fact, I

20:28

kind of want them to go down because I

20:29

want to build a position in them. So I

20:31

could buy I could increase my Q for a

20:33

lower P, right? Increase my quantity for

20:35

a lower price.

20:36

Um, but there are also stocks that might

20:38

buy that I think could be like swing

20:40

trades u over the next six months. Like

20:42

this morning we did an analysis on a

20:44

stock that

20:46

probably once we get to the meat of the

20:48

government shutdown might have a low

20:50

buying opportunity. Uh I don't I even

20:53

said this morning like I don't think

20:54

I'll buy them now because I want to wait

20:58

for the max pain of the shutdown. Like

21:01

that shock. It's like oh my gosh,

21:03

Friday's coming. It's 5:30 a.m. and we

21:05

didn't get the jobs report. Dude,

21:06

markets are going to freak on that. It's

21:08

going to be such a buy the dip

21:09

opportunity for your long-term place in

21:11

my opinion. Uh, of course, you know, if

21:13

the jobs data comes in bad, we go into a

21:15

labor market recession. You also want to

21:17

have stocks that are going to do well in

21:19

a recession. And I don't think all

21:21

stocks will do well in a recession.

21:24

It's uh you know you're going to be

21:26

looking at

21:28

sure interest rate sensitive but you

21:30

also have to consider and this is

21:31

something to think about people forget

21:34

this when it comes to debt

21:37

people will leverage up to the tits we

21:40

call it you know you leverage up and

21:45

let's say you buy a house today for a

21:48

million bucks okay and you put 20% down

21:52

or or 10% % down cuz you're Lisa Cook

21:55

and you say you're going to live there

21:58

and then you leverage up at, you know, 6

22:00

and a half% on a 30-year mortgage. Okay,

22:03

everybody's idea is, "Oh, I'll just

22:05

refinance when rates come down. Then

22:08

hits the fan, you go into a

22:10

recession." Okay, then you're in a

22:11

recession. What appraiser is going to

22:14

let you refinance?

22:17

That's the problem, right? So

22:21

rates go to zero and you're like, "Oh, I

22:23

could refinance and get a lower rate."

22:25

But then all the appraisals start coming

22:27

in low because the appraisers are

22:29

worried. It's not just that prices can

22:32

go down on real estate. I actually think

22:34

lower rates will drive prices higher,

22:36

but it's that you create fear in

22:38

appraisal land. Appraisers are worried

22:40

about getting sued because if we're in a

22:42

recession, oh my gosh, I better sharpen

22:44

my pencil on all my appraisals.

22:46

appraisals are going to come in lower

22:48

because now what? Well, if I if I write

22:50

this too high, I could lose my license.

22:52

If the banks lose money and I get sued.

22:55

So, everybody sharpens their pencils. It

22:57

becomes harder to refinance. Worst case

22:58

scenario, home prices fall, which, you

23:01

know, could happen.

23:03

And then you're saddled with debt on a

23:06

fixed rate mortgage at 6 12%.

23:09

And rates are at zero and you can't

23:12

refinance and you can't sell. That's the

23:15

downside of being levered to the tits.

23:18

In other words, you're effed.

23:22

So, and there are people today buying

23:25

real estate uh at negative cash flows

23:29

making the bet that oh, it's all going

23:31

to be okay cuz rates are going to come

23:33

down and then, you know, home prices are

23:35

going to go up and I'll be able to

23:36

refinance. Yeah. Well, what if you can't

23:39

refinance?

23:41

And so, you know, that's why like maybe

23:44

just call me like a doom boomer. Okay,

23:46

call me here. Call me Bowser. That's

23:48

what you could call me. Call me Bowser.

23:53

You got a satur. Uh,

23:57

and uh

24:00

I I just think people forget that, you

24:03

know, just because rates go down, not

24:06

everybody's going to be able to turn

24:07

around and go refinance. And a lot of

24:10

people will be able to like house we

24:12

have no bank debt very very little

24:15

corporate uh you know outstanding

24:17

corporate bonds very few relative to the

24:18

assets we have uh and they're

24:21

convertible to equity so as long as we

24:23

perform well you know people get stock

24:26

so it's not a cash like there's no cash

24:29

outlay to pay those bonds um which is we

24:33

think win-win but the point of that is

24:36

you know companies with no debt will be

24:38

fine but if people are lever to the tits

24:41

uh and then they think they could

24:44

refinance but they can't.

24:46

That's when you hit the poopy oopies.

24:48

Now, the reason I bring that up is just

24:49

to keep on your radar. Just be careful

24:53

with the your assumptions around when

24:55

things go bad and and consider that when

24:57

you're looking at stocks to buy. Uh so

24:59

anyway, that's that's that's all the

25:01

reason I wanted to bring that up. So,

25:04

somebody here says home prices already

25:05

falling in Florida or Texas. Yeah,

25:07

Florida, Texas have this uniqueness to

25:10

them in that they they do overbuild.

25:14

Uh so they are much more cyclally

25:15

sensitive. However, sometimes they've

25:17

been seen as a leading indicator as

25:18

well. Uh so you know, in the 2008

25:22

financial crisis, Texans of Florida got

25:23

hit the worst too. So did Vegas.

25:26

Uh

25:30

so if you put more money down, you're

25:32

less at risk of being unable to

25:33

refinance. Yeah, exactly. So, you know,

25:37

if you put down like in the depths of

25:40

the financial crisis, what did real

25:42

estate single family homes go down? Like

25:44

42%. That's not going to happen again.

25:46

Knock on wood. But the reason I don't

25:48

think that's going to happen again is

25:49

because our loans are so much more

25:50

stable today. We're not doing negam

25:52

loans. We're doing ability to repay

25:54

loans. But the thing is those standards

25:56

are starting to loosen. They're just now

25:58

starting to loosen. I actually think if

26:00

we're going to have a housing market

26:01

bubble, it'll be fueled by the next

26:04

recession. So, like I don't think this

26:05

will be a real estate recession. I think

26:07

it'll be a labor recession. Uh which

26:09

will affect some tenants obviously, but

26:12

it'll mostly be a labor recession,

26:15

not a real estate bubble. We're not in a

26:16

real estate bubble at all. Like the

26:18

underlying fundamentals are very, very

26:19

strong of lending. Uh however, the next

26:22

recession will lead to shittier loans.

26:26

Donald Trump just gutted 90% of the

26:28

Consumer Financial and Protection

26:30

Bureau. That was the very entity

26:33

responsible for enforcing the DoddFrank

26:36

protections that forced ability to repay

26:40

qualified mortgages. They just gutted

26:43

it, dude. 90% fired. Well, that doesn't

26:46

turn all of the loans that were made

26:48

over the last 15 years into a bubble

26:50

asset. What it does is it sews the seed

26:53

for the next bubble.

26:56

Very interesting.

26:57

Very, very interesting though.

27:03

Yeah, Austin's a great example again

27:05

because you overbuild.

27:07

That's actually why I love the dumbass

27:14

I'm not calling liberals dumbass here.

27:16

I'm saying the dumbass liberal policies

27:19

of blue states because they suck so

27:23

badly at building. I swear to you, the

27:26

worst place to get permits to build

27:31

is in any libtard city, this is not to

27:36

be offensive to liberals, okay? I I love

27:40

my liberal friends. I love my MAGA

27:42

friends. I love them all. But I'm

27:45

telling you that the the these blue

27:46

state cities like the LA's, the Santa

27:49

Monas, the San Francisco, the San Diego,

27:53

worst places to build, best damn place

27:56

to buy. Nah, I I don't want to buy in

27:59

Santa Monica because of the rent

28:00

controls, but uh these are great places

28:02

to buy cuz they suck so much at

28:04

building. They just squeeze prices up.

28:09

Uh uh. So, you know, that's that's just

28:13

my take. You know, that doesn't mean I'm

28:15

right. Somebody says I'm looking pale.

28:19

What? Oh, my filth. What happened to my

28:22

Oh, okay. Hold on. Let's Let's add some

28:26

Let's Let's fix that for you.

28:29

How much Trump do we want, folks? How

28:31

much Trump should I put in?

28:33

We're going to make real estate great

28:35

again. Nobody knows real estate better

28:38

than your boy me Kevin. In fact, if you

28:42

want the greatest bond ever, some might

28:45

say the greatest investment ever. Don't

28:48

sue me, bro, though. You know, the

28:49

legacy media, they'll they'll come right

28:51

after you, okay? The fake news. They'll

28:54

tell you there's risk to every

28:55

investment.

28:57

They'll tell you to read the financials,

29:00

uh, to read the private placement

29:02

memorandum at househack.com because this

29:05

is not a solicitation, but some would

29:07

say a 5% yield on an annual basis paid

29:10

monthly with all the upside in the stock

29:13

at a valuation that's so low. Some would

29:16

say the lowest valuation ever, almost

29:18

real estate only,

29:20

there's no pricing of the artificial

29:23

intelligence they've got. Some would say

29:25

it's just a great deal. You could that

29:28

houseack.com.

29:31

All right, I'm going to remove some of

29:32

that Trump orange now. Uh,

29:37

there we go. Okay, back to normal. All

29:40

right, cool. There you have it. And use

29:44

your coupon code daddy's back at me.com.

29:48

>> Coupon linked below.

29:52

Coupon code expiring soon. I think the

29:54

bigger question is like if the

29:56

government shuts down and the coupon

29:58

code expires on jobs day, does the

30:00

government shutdown affect the

30:02

expiration of the coupon? I don't think

30:03

it should. I think the coupon needs to

30:06

expire because we already gave an

30:08

extension to the people who are begging

30:09

me to extend it in emails about this.

30:11

>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and

30:13

see how it goes. Congratulations, man.

30:14

You have done so much. People love you.

30:16

People look up to you.

30:17

>> Kevin Pra there, financial analyst and

30:19

YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great to

30:21

get your take.

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