The Massive, Housing Bankruptcy Coming in 2023.
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the real estate market is about to face a whole lot of hell and folks I've got
bad news potentially for a particular eye buying company that might be getting
ready to close its doors in this video not only are we going to talk about this
closing of doors we're going to talk about what's going on with limited
redemptions in the real estate space we'll talk about home affordability how
much real estate prices might have to fall how much they're likely to fall
recession or not and we'll also talk about interest rates because yeah they
have taked down a little bit recently but will it be enough to quell fears of
the recession here we go folks all right first up oh my gosh look at this tweet
circulating from a writer at Fortune Magazine now it's unverified but I'm
gonna put some details together here that could actually make this seem very
very legitimate Lance Lambert says this week a company in the family of I buy
reached out to the co-star co-star by the way is a real estate listing
platform like co-star Loop net they do a lot in commercial real estate anyway
this week a company in the family of eye buying reached out to co-star CEO Andy
Florence the company is that is the company being the company reaching out
is that a quote point of failure and asks Florence if co-star can quote fund
them Florence tells Fortune Magazine he turned them down more details here to be
clear I don't know what company he's talking about I asked co-star CEO Andy
Florence if I buyers will still be around in two years he said I think
people will learn from the first generation he added that cost of capital
would rise so remember eye buying is when companies buy homes off the
internet without actually knowing what the hell they're doing they don't buy
wedge Deals they just try to buy deals to get transaction fees and flip them
again that works fine in an appreciating Market but oh my gosh I hate flipping
homes I flipped one property in my life I think flipping homes is the worst way
to make money because it's so risky you make lots of money when you're a king in
the markets Rising but other times you just get screwed very very dangerous to
be an eye buyer this is why I like wedge deal and rent model not buy and flip
very very dangerous so what company could this potentially be and is it
possible that this eye buying company is going bankrupt well my belief is a it's
open door and B yes first of all Open Door rumoredly sent out an email just a
few days ago shutting down their Mortgage business this comes after they
laid off individuals earlier this year and comes after on November 2nd them
laying off 18 of their staff last quarter before their last earnings
report I also suggested that they will face at least a 10 markdown on their
inventory and guess what happened when they announced earning earnings they
announced yeah we're taking a 10 markdown on our inventory on top of that
we're going to get into the real estate Marketplace which is a way of saying
yeah our eye buying is failing so badly we're gonna try to turn our website into
a platform for people to buy and sell homes rather than just try to buy and
sell homes ourselves in other words the core business model of Open Door is
faltering so badly they're trying to change their business model and so when
I'm trying to align the potential okay well could it be open door that's asking
for emergency funding what I did of course is I went over to their balance
sheet because when you think a company is going to go bankrupt what do you do
well you follow what we talk about in the stocks and psychology of money group
combined with the zero to millionaire real estate investing course both
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the 9th and what do you get well you get knowledge okay you go over the balance
sheet and look what you get first what do we have over here we have seven
billion dollars in debt on flips how do I get to that number well I get to that
number by going right here which is non-recourse asset backed debt current
portion plus the non-recourse asset back debt net of the current portion you add
that up you get about seven billion dollars in debt on flips that's not good
especially when the amount of real estate value you have is about six
billion dollars okay so you've got six billion dollars in real estate you've
got seven billion dollars in debts that means you are already upside down by one
billion dollars not considering the fact that
you might not even be able to sell those properties for six billion dollars you
might have to take another 10 to 15 haircut which would mean you really only
have about five billion dollars of real estate left which means you could be
upside down to the tune of two billion dollars but let's just assume they're
only upside down by one billion dollars and that they do not have to take an
additional cut what do we have well we have 1.3 million dollars of cash on the
balance sheet we do have 1.7 million dollars in restricted cash but the
assumption is that 1.7 million dollars in restricted cash cash is going into
New Deals that's why it's restricted that they're still buying which is
stupid they should stop they're operating a money losing business stop
operating the business they're putting money into a vending machine to get no
money out it's stupid it's a stupid business model in the last quarter by
the way they lost 810 million dollars 425 of which just on taking losses on
homes and the rest 385 on their operating expenses which have
exploded by about 120 million dollars 115 million dollars from last year yikes
so what do we have over here well we've got a business that's upside down by
about a billion dollars they have 1.3 billion dollars in cash that's 1.3 B not
M there we go so they have 1.3 billion in cash and they're losing about 800
million dollars a quarter which means this company is probably on the verge of
bankruptcy this quarter because if last quarter they had about one quarter left
of cash and now you're going into the Q4 winter season for selling real estate
which is historically slower you have debts coming due you're burning probably
about a billion dollars in the in this Q4 quarter with losses and expenses
they're out of cash they're not going to be able to operate anymore past q1
they're done they're cooked like we saw this coming for probably all year we've
been talking about this Open Door disaster coming and now we see this
rumor it has to be this company now it could be look zillow's out of the game
they got out they were smart it's not Airbnb because they don't I buy it's
probably not going to be Redfin though there's always the risk it's Redfin uh
they still have the services side of their business and I think they are a
little bit more reasonable in their Acquisitions than open door has been
it's probably open door which is soon to be closed door which is pretty
embarrassing but anyway uh this is why flipping is so freaking dangerous okay
so now that's open door what else is going on in the real estate world oh
right redemptions are getting Frozen Yes Baron suggests and Barons just reported
that Star Wars Star Wood Property Group Starwood real estate income trust is
curbing redemptions after withdrawal requests exceeded the monthly limit in
November Starwood capital is the sort of the umbrella company of the Starwood
real estate income trust the real estate income trust has about 14.6 billion
dollars of assets under management they are halting withdrawals the total
Starwood group has about 125 billion dollars of assets under management so
this is slightly more than 10 percent of the Starwood group is halting
withdrawals and they are now the second largest
non-traded Reit after blackstone's real estate income trust which has 69 billion
dollars of assets under management moved to also limit withdrawals both of them
allow about two percent of monthly withdrawals of net asset value or five
percent of quarterly withdrawals and so far Starwood has fulfilled 63 percent of
investor Redemption requests the rest will rule over to next month
yikes yikes so this is a way of saying that
there is such a liquidity crunch right now there's such a dash for cash that
people are trying to claw their money out of anything they can they're selling
their crypto they're selling their stocks they're selling their real estate
they're dumping out of REITs they're trying to get cash this is what happens
in a recession this is why in January I said the most powerful asset you could
have this year is cash and the reason is not because inflation is high but
because the stuff you're going to buy is probably going to go down in value
assets real estate boats planes cars stocks whatever it is that floats your
boat so to speak it's going down it's all going down it sucks anyway
oh Bloomberg is also now reporting that on a 75 city-wide average that used to
rank better Nationwide for home affordability is now worse than the
average cities like Tampa Florida Boise Idaho Glenwood Springs Colorado
exceeding 50 percent of people's median income to be able to afford a home in
those areas median home price to income ratios over
a hundred percent in areas like Key West Florida we're also now according to
Redfin facing record D listings two percent of homes for sale were delisted
without being sold each week during the three months ended November 20th
comparing to 1.6 percent a year earlier this is leading Bloomberg to cite that
the Boom is over now we're seeing a complete reversal in real estate and
although costs have recently cooled with some reduction in interest rates many
buyers are sidelined because guess what now the fear of a recession is out some
of the towns seeing the worst hits are the Sun Belt areas and areas like
Seattle Phoenix Denver Sacramento and Austin
new home prices have to fall about 34 for payment to income ratios to go back
in line with historical averages this is according to Bloomberg intelligence a 15
decline Nationwide looks very likely assuming rates are stabilize at about
five and a half percent right now they are at about six and a half percent so
you still have some rotation downward to go newer smaller homes are more likely
to be resilient with the upper end suffering worse
Fortune does a breakdown of Moody's Analytics report on real estate
suggesting that real estate could fall as much as 15 to 25 percent assuming no
recession in the event of a recession those real estate prices could fall even
more the case Shiller index also fell one percent in September although the
fhfa measure actually increased 0.1 percent in September the reason for this
could be that fhfa has most of its market share focused on the lower and
middle end this suggests that it's the top and higher end that's actually
getting crushed much more than the lower end now this is right now with rates
hovering around six and a half percent The Wall Street Journal is also now
reporting that more renters are starting to renovate places like their own they
say that nesting renters are a sign that the housing market is at Peak at least
this is per the FAU economics professor they interviewed Wayfarer seeing
bookings for doorknobs and drawer pulls and wallpaper way up doorknobs and
drawer pulls tripled from last year and after all it makes no Financial sense to
invest in a place that you're just renting but a potential reason could be
it's more expensive to move than to just stay put and make the place look the way
you want it to look while you're there this is all bad news for Real Estate
especially if real estate prices could fall even more if we enter a recession
which more and more seems more likely and it seems like the FED is going to
have to massively u-term to bail this Market out of the pain that we're about
to experience in addition to that interest rates
following the 10-year yield curve have calmed substantially in the last six
weeks if we pull up the 10-year treasury curve we could see that right here we
can see the 10-year treasury curve is nicely down from nearly four and a
quarter percent about a month and a half ago six weeks ago down to about
3.59 right now which is roughly in line of with where we were in mid-september
this does lead mortgage rates to cool if we just Google mortgage rates and then I
always like to throw in the 740 credit score
that is generally your your best rate you're sitting at about 6.6 percent for
the 30-year fixed down off of some of the over seven to seven and a half
percent rates we saw at the beginning of October However unfortunately still
similar to those mid-september levels where we've also been seeing some
serious pain in the real estate market so unfortunately more pain is likely
ahead for the real estate market and most unfortunately it doesn't look like
Open Door is going to be open much longer no guarantees so far this is just
a rumor and there's also the rumor that they're shutting their mortgage division
but we'll see so far though their balance sheet doesn't look good thanks
for watching folks and we'll see the next one goodbye
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